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Re: Plugin - Files in media folder and not linked to project

James Pam
 

Thanks Mike

When you refer to the ‘media record file link’ is that the same thing as the 'folder path' that I find when I go to file information  in editor/player? If I have got this wrong please  could tell me where to find it.

James


Re: Word limit in note window

Gill
 

It sounds fascinating!

Gill

 

 

 

From: Jenny Cochrane via groups.io
Sent: 15 February 2021 13:14
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Word limit in note window

 

Thanks Victor,

 

Though I do use the inbuilt narrative (and other) reports, they are necessarily formulaic and from time to time I want to write something more interpretive and analytical. I'm currently looking at how 6 siblings, all legatees of their uncle (the court case spent decades in Chancery) ended up in very different situations. 

 

I think I will just do a separate note for each of the siblings and their descendants with linked intro and conclusion.

 

Jenny

 

 

On Monday, 15 February 2021, 12:47:44 GMT, Victor Markham via groups.io <victor@...> wrote:

 

 

Jenny

Instead of writing narative reports have you tried 'view' on the tool bar then prtompt 'publish' and chose from the list. FG will then generate a narrative report.

Or is that kind of report you are not seeking

Victor

On 15/02/2021 11:25 am, Jenny Cochrane via groups.io wrote:

Since upgrading to FH7 I've been using the note window extensively as I find it very useful being able to have the property box or other window open whilst I type a not. However, I've got to about 5000 words and can't input further unless I delete a few words. 

 

Is this limit intended? Can I change it?

 

I realise most notes are not this length but I'm typing up a narrative story on one family branch. I can always split the note or go back to using Word but would prefer not to.

 

Any suggestions?

 

Thanks

 

Jenny

 


Re: Word limit in note window

Jenny Cochrane
 

According to Word, it's 33,297 characters with spaces, 27478 without spaces, 5813 words, 480 lines.

There are a few big words in there. I do try!!



On Monday, 15 February 2021, 14:43:18 GMT, Edward Sneithe via groups.io <truthfor16@...> wrote:


I too am using notes to input extensive data but I have not yet reached that limit. Just out of curiosity you say 5,000 words but how many characters is that? If you are using big words with spaces and punctuation you may be hitting an addressing limit. 

We are all familiar with the 32k vs 64k systems at least by name. If FH may still be bound by the 32k limit in some places then that may be the limit that is being imposed. If I take 5000 words and add spaces and punctuation I come very close to the 32k addressing limit. 

If FH is trying to accommodate older systems then the 32k may stand for awhile. Other users have provided some unique ways to get around a limit like this and I will certainly keep them in mind if I hit this limit.

Also the amount of space is not limited to just characters, spaces and punctuation. Formatting also takes space so you may not see a hard limit of 5000 words or 32k codepoints that make up the 32k addressing limit. My point is the number words or characters may be flexible depending on what you have entered.

On Monday, February 15, 2021, 08:55:37 AM EST, Jenny Cochrane via groups.io <cochranejenny@...> wrote:


Exactly


On Monday, 15 February 2021, 13:07:07 GMT, Mike Tate <post@...> wrote:


You didn’t say, but I guess you are talking about Note records listed in the Records Window on the Notes tab.

For the time being, you will have to start a new Note record for each section/chapter/generation that exceeds 5,000 words.

Mike

 


Re: Word limit in note window

Edward Sneithe
 

I too am using notes to input extensive data but I have not yet reached that limit. Just out of curiosity you say 5,000 words but how many characters is that? If you are using big words with spaces and punctuation you may be hitting an addressing limit. 

We are all familiar with the 32k vs 64k systems at least by name. If FH may still be bound by the 32k limit in some places then that may be the limit that is being imposed. If I take 5000 words and add spaces and punctuation I come very close to the 32k addressing limit. 

If FH is trying to accommodate older systems then the 32k may stand for awhile. Other users have provided some unique ways to get around a limit like this and I will certainly keep them in mind if I hit this limit.

Also the amount of space is not limited to just characters, spaces and punctuation. Formatting also takes space so you may not see a hard limit of 5000 words or 32k codepoints that make up the 32k addressing limit. My point is the number words or characters may be flexible depending on what you have entered.

On Monday, February 15, 2021, 08:55:37 AM EST, Jenny Cochrane via groups.io <cochranejenny@...> wrote:


Exactly


On Monday, 15 February 2021, 13:07:07 GMT, Mike Tate <post@...> wrote:


You didn’t say, but I guess you are talking about Note records listed in the Records Window on the Notes tab.

For the time being, you will have to start a new Note record for each section/chapter/generation that exceeds 5,000 words.

Mike

 


Re: Word limit in note window

Jenny Cochrane
 

Exactly


On Monday, 15 February 2021, 13:07:07 GMT, Mike Tate <post@...> wrote:


You didn’t say, but I guess you are talking about Note records listed in the Records Window on the Notes tab.

For the time being, you will have to start a new Note record for each section/chapter/generation that exceeds 5,000 words.

Mike

 


Re: Word limit in note window

Victor Markham
 

Narrative reports saved as a word document can be edited to suite how you want it. I tend to edit it with mainly with cencus images. I use AS and add the images vertically. When I do a narrative report I increas the size of the images to cove the whole A4 page so they could be read. I do the same with other images like BMD's

I have also done an individual narrative report for one person. This is available by thre method I mentioned before. It gives you the choice of ancestors, descendants and individual.

I did an individual report a couple of days ago and sent it to a cousin who corrected me on one name. Imlisted the name as her sister when in fact it was her husbands sister

Victor

On 15/02/2021 1:14 pm, Jenny Cochrane via groups.io wrote:
Thanks Victor,

Though I do use the inbuilt narrative (and other) reports, they are necessarily formulaic and from time to time I want to write something more interpretive and analytical. I'm currently looking at how 6 siblings, all legatees of their uncle (the court case spent decades in Chancery) ended up in very different situations. 

I think I will just do a separate note for each of the siblings and their descendants with linked intro and conclusion.

Jenny


On Monday, 15 February 2021, 12:47:44 GMT, Victor Markham via groups.io <victor@...> wrote:


Jenny

Instead of writing narative reports have you tried 'view' on the tool bar then prtompt 'publish' and chose from the list. FG will then generate a narrative report.

Or is that kind of report you are not seeking

Victor

On 15/02/2021 11:25 am, Jenny Cochrane via groups.io wrote:
Since upgrading to FH7 I've been using the note window extensively as I find it very useful being able to have the property box or other window open whilst I type a not. However, I've got to about 5000 words and can't input further unless I delete a few words. 

Is this limit intended? Can I change it?

I realise most notes are not this length but I'm typing up a narrative story on one family branch. I can always split the note or go back to using Word but would prefer not to.

Any suggestions?

Thanks

Jenny


Re: Word limit in note window

Jenny Cochrane
 

Thanks Victor,

Though I do use the inbuilt narrative (and other) reports, they are necessarily formulaic and from time to time I want to write something more interpretive and analytical. I'm currently looking at how 6 siblings, all legatees of their uncle (the court case spent decades in Chancery) ended up in very different situations. 

I think I will just do a separate note for each of the siblings and their descendants with linked intro and conclusion.

Jenny


On Monday, 15 February 2021, 12:47:44 GMT, Victor Markham via groups.io <victor@...> wrote:


Jenny

Instead of writing narative reports have you tried 'view' on the tool bar then prtompt 'publish' and chose from the list. FG will then generate a narrative report.

Or is that kind of report you are not seeking

Victor

On 15/02/2021 11:25 am, Jenny Cochrane via groups.io wrote:
Since upgrading to FH7 I've been using the note window extensively as I find it very useful being able to have the property box or other window open whilst I type a not. However, I've got to about 5000 words and can't input further unless I delete a few words. 

Is this limit intended? Can I change it?

I realise most notes are not this length but I'm typing up a narrative story on one family branch. I can always split the note or go back to using Word but would prefer not to.

Any suggestions?

Thanks

Jenny


Re: Word limit in note window

Mike Tate
 

You didn’t say, but I guess you are talking about Note records listed in the Records Window on the Notes tab.

For the time being, you will have to start a new Note record for each section/chapter/generation that exceeds 5,000 words.

Mike

 


Re: Word limit in note window

Jenny Cochrane
 

Thanks Mike.

Yes I knew I was using the note function in an unconventional way but found the function too useful to resist!

Currently I'm just typing an unattached narrative note which tells the story of several generations of one branch of the family. Eventually I may attach to many individuals but I'm not concerned about reports as I can exclude these long notes if required. I started this one to trace where a large inheritance went across the generations. 

I'm afraid I have "form" for long narratives. The last one (for family circulation) runs to 60,000 words. 

I'll open a ticket or maybe add to the Wish List.

Thanks again

Jenny




On Monday, 15 February 2021, 12:20:28 GMT, Mike Tate <post@...> wrote:


Hi Jenny,

5,000 is certainly a lot of words for one Note, and I suspect Calico Pie did not anticipate Notes that large.

You will have to ask them as the program designers what solutions might be possible.

Use the http://www.calico-pie.com/osticket/open.php ticket system.

There are no settings in the program you can change.

 

Wherever a single Note is allowed you can have multiple Notes, but they may need a little trickery to get them all into a Report.

Exactly which Notes are you using as they are attached everywhere, and how do you currently incorporate them into Reports?

 

Mike Tate

 


Re: Word limit in note window

Victor Markham
 

Jenny

Instead of writing narative reports have you tried 'view' on the tool bar then prtompt 'publish' and chose from the list. FG will then generate a narrative report.

Or is that kind of report you are not seeking

Victor

On 15/02/2021 11:25 am, Jenny Cochrane via groups.io wrote:
Since upgrading to FH7 I've been using the note window extensively as I find it very useful being able to have the property box or other window open whilst I type a not. However, I've got to about 5000 words and can't input further unless I delete a few words. 

Is this limit intended? Can I change it?

I realise most notes are not this length but I'm typing up a narrative story on one family branch. I can always split the note or go back to using Word but would prefer not to.

Any suggestions?

Thanks

Jenny


Re: Word limit in note window

Mike Tate
 

Hi Jenny,

5,000 is certainly a lot of words for one Note, and I suspect Calico Pie did not anticipate Notes that large.

You will have to ask them as the program designers what solutions might be possible.

Use the http://www.calico-pie.com/osticket/open.php ticket system.

There are no settings in the program you can change.

 

Wherever a single Note is allowed you can have multiple Notes, but they may need a little trickery to get them all into a Report.

Exactly which Notes are you using as they are attached everywhere, and how do you currently incorporate them into Reports?

 

Mike Tate

 


Word limit in note window

Jenny Cochrane
 

Since upgrading to FH7 I've been using the note window extensively as I find it very useful being able to have the property box or other window open whilst I type a not. However, I've got to about 5000 words and can't input further unless I delete a few words. 

Is this limit intended? Can I change it?

I realise most notes are not this length but I'm typing up a narrative story on one family branch. I can always split the note or go back to using Word but would prefer not to.

Any suggestions?

Thanks

Jenny


Re: Migrating to a new laptop

johnfirr@...
 

Yes Mike,
understood. I am waiting for new laptop to be delivered but had a dry run yesterday so I know whats what now and will have multiple backups!.
I was a bit worried about the plugin changing the registry as thats a black art to me! but again I have backed up to ywo seperate sorces. Now I have read the guidance several times I can see that the answer is to proceed carefully step by step and check as I go.
I,m glad I asked the question because otherwise I would have just used backup and then restore from the FH programme and this could clearly have led to issues. I,ll let you know how it goes, watch this space and as ever thanks to all for the advice. Oh and Sylvia apologies for possibly hijacking your post!

regards
John Firr


Re: media in fam hist version 6.2

colevalleygirl@colevalleygirl.co.uk
 

Have a look at https://fhug.org.uk/kb/kb-article/common-image-problems/, specifically the piece on Photo orientation in V6.

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of terry hughes via groups.io

 

when i link a picture it sometimes comes up on its side even though the file from which the picture is loaded is up the right way


media in fam hist version 6.2

terry hughes
 

when i link a picture it sometimes comes up on its side even though the file from which the picture is loaded is up the right way

terry 


Re: Migrating to a new laptop

Mike Tate
 

The complexity is partly to cater for all eventualities, especially Media files stored anywhere, and partly because FH saves its custom settings all over the place.

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of johnfirr via groups.io
Sent: 14 February 2021 13:58
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Migrating to a new laptop

 

Thanks Mike. I had seen that guidance but wasnt sure that it was correct for V7 so thanks for the clarification. You are correct that I just want to transfer between pcs and then will just use FH on the new one. 
I must admit it looks a lot more complex than I thought but I will read the guidance carefully several times and proceed with caution.
Regards

John

 


Re: Mystery

james o'kelly
 

thank you all for your replies, sorry I should have pointed out it was the Coote's in question, this has helped me sort out who was who, Thanks again 

James

On Sun, Feb 14, 2021 at 1:32 PM Lorna Craig via groups.io <l.m.craig=ntlworld.com@groups.io> wrote:

James,

You haven't told us which person/people on the page you are referring to.

However, I think the 1813 page shows:

"(Oct) 12th Coote, Charles Nurse, Son of Chas Nurse and Mary Coote late Garwood(?) spinster/ priv. baptized born April 30th."

And the 1814 page shows:

" 16th Coote, George and Charles Sons of Chad Nurse and Mary Coote, received into the Church June 16th".  And in the first column just below "16th" there is "13*"

So the 1813 page is saying that Charles Nurse Coote was born on 30 April 1813 and privately baptized on 12 October 1813.   And the 1814 page is saying that Charles and his brother George were both received into the Church on 16 June 1814.  The "13*" is probably indicating that they (at least, Charles) had been baptised in 1813.    As others have explained, a private baptism took place if a child was ill, in case they died.  The child was later formally 'received into the Church'.

The only oddity is that in 1813 the father was a cordwainer (shoemaker) and in 1814 he was a grocer, according to the left hand margins.

Lorna

On 13/02/2021 20:32, james o'kelly wrote:
Not a technical problem, but a record source, I have come across two records of christening for the same person on two different occasions, one in 1813 and another in 1814, has anyone else found this?, and how can this be? would appreciate any input, I believe they are at the same church,
_


Re: Migrating to a new laptop

johnfirr@...
 

Thanks Mike. I had seen that guidance but wasnt sure that it was correct for V7 so thanks for the clarification. You are correct that I just want to transfer between pcs and then will just use FH on the new one. 
I must admit it looks a lot more complex than I thought but I will read the guidance carefully several times and proceed with caution.
Regards
John
 


Re: Mystery

Lorna Craig
 

James,

You haven't told us which person/people on the page you are referring to.

However, I think the 1813 page shows:

"(Oct) 12th Coote, Charles Nurse, Son of Chas Nurse and Mary Coote late Garwood(?) spinster/ priv. baptized born April 30th."

And the 1814 page shows:

" 16th Coote, George and Charles Sons of Chad Nurse and Mary Coote, received into the Church June 16th".  And in the first column just below "16th" there is "13*"

So the 1813 page is saying that Charles Nurse Coote was born on 30 April 1813 and privately baptized on 12 October 1813.   And the 1814 page is saying that Charles and his brother George were both received into the Church on 16 June 1814.  The "13*" is probably indicating that they (at least, Charles) had been baptised in 1813.    As others have explained, a private baptism took place if a child was ill, in case they died.  The child was later formally 'received into the Church'.

The only oddity is that in 1813 the father was a cordwainer (shoemaker) and in 1814 he was a grocer, according to the left hand margins.

Lorna

On 13/02/2021 20:32, james o'kelly wrote:
Not a technical problem, but a record source, I have come across two records of christening for the same person on two different occasions, one in 1813 and another in 1814, has anyone else found this?, and how can this be? would appreciate any input, I believe they are at the same church,
_


Re: Migrating to a new laptop

Neil Grantham
 

I’d tend to agree.
Get your existing setup back on the laptop using the recommended method posted by Mike earlier which will capture all your settings etc.

Once you are sure it is all correct then do your update.
Read up on it first so you are ready.

Best Wishes
Neil

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From: Julia Vokes
Sent: Feb 14, 2021 at 10:17 AM
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Migrating to a new laptop

Personally I’d do the new laptop first and keep the program you are familiar with.  But which ever route you decide to use, it’s essential to make a complete back up of everything.  When I last changed computers I actually made two backups of everything on two separate devices, external hard drives, as I would have been deviated if anything had been lost.  Bit belt and braces, but better safe than sorry!!


Julia


On 14 Feb 2021, at 08:54, Sylvia.waterson21@... wrote:

Hi everybody,
Is it best to upgrade to FH7 before migrating to a new laptop - or to migrate to a new laptop and then upgrade to FH7?
Any advice will be much appreciated


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Neil Grantham
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Using FH 7 & AS 7
Researching Grantham, Skuce, Barrow, Birchall.

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