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Re: Marrying Cousins - reply

John Hanson
 

Bob

As others have said exactly what you should see

 

Regards
John Hanson - researching the Halstead/Holstead/Alstead names
Researcher, the Halsted Trust - https://www.halsted.org.uk
Research website - https://www.halstedresearch.org.uk

2021 Family History Conference - https://www.elizabethanancestors.org.uk

 

 

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Newberry via groups.io
Sent: 30 January 2021 13:31
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Marrying Cousins - reply

 


Hello again John

I sort of see what you are saying. I also use Ancestry and had the same result, they also wrote back and said having two shown lines is correct. I've attached a very simplified tree to show my problem. I wonder if you would be kind enough just to have a look at it and confirm that's as it should be.

Very many thanks

Bob



------ Original Message ------
From: "Robert Newberry via groups.io" <bob.newberry@...>
To: family-historian@groups.io
Sent: Saturday, 30 Jan, 2021 At 12:23
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Marrying Cousins

Thanks so much John. Let me study this and get back to you later.

Best wishes.

Bob


On 30 Jan 2021, at 10:09, John Hanson <john.hanson@...> wrote:

Bob
If you mean in diagrams it is just showing you that the person appears in two trees
No way to stop it (unless something sneaked into FH7 that I am yet to find!) but there has been many discussions over the years on how to reduce the impact of the ribbons

Regards
John Hanson - researching the Halstead/Holstead/Alstead names
Researcher, the Halsted Trust - https://www.halsted.org.uk
Research website - https://www.halstedresearch.org.uk

2021 Family History Conference - https://www.elizabethanancestors.org.uk

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of bob.newberry via groups.io
Sent: 29 January 2021 16:13
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] Marrying Cousins

My first post! Hi everyone.
My Family Historian 7 seems to be having a problem coping with first cousins marrying. As soon as I try and link to the shared grandparents, it keeps giving me two duplicated lines of descent. I have a James Edmonds marrying an Ethel Parker. James Edmonds mother was Elizabeth Burr. Ethel parkers mother was Emma Burr. The parents of Elizabeth and Emma Burr are one of the same - Jonathon Burr. i've completly started from scrtach on numerous occasions, but with always the same result. Unfortunately, it really messes up the tree. Hope this makes sense! Any help you can give me would be much appreciated. Many thanks.
Bob N.


Re: Marrying Cousins - reply

Robert Newberry
 


Hello again John

I sort of see what you are saying. I also use Ancestry and had the same result, they also wrote back and said having two shown lines is correct. I've attached a very simplified tree to show my problem. I wonder if you would be kind enough just to have a look at it and confirm that's as it should be.

Very many thanks

Bob



------ Original Message ------
From: "Robert Newberry via groups.io" <bob.newberry@...>
To: family-historian@groups.io
Sent: Saturday, 30 Jan, 2021 At 12:23
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Marrying Cousins

Thanks so much John. Let me study this and get back to you later.
Best wishes.
Bob


On 30 Jan 2021, at 10:09, John Hanson <john.hanson@...> wrote:

Bob
If you mean in diagrams it is just showing you that the person appears in two trees
No way to stop it (unless something sneaked into FH7 that I am yet to find!) but there has been many discussions over the years on how to reduce the impact of the ribbons

Regards
John Hanson - researching the Halstead/Holstead/Alstead names
Researcher, the Halsted Trust - https://www.halsted.org.uk
Research website - https://www.halstedresearch.org.uk

2021 Family History Conference - https://www.elizabethanancestors.org.uk

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of bob.newberry via groups.io
Sent: 29 January 2021 16:13
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] Marrying Cousins

My first post! Hi everyone.
My Family Historian 7 seems to be having a problem coping with first cousins marrying. As soon as I try and link to the shared grandparents, it keeps giving me two duplicated lines of descent. I have a James Edmonds marrying an Ethel Parker. James Edmonds mother was Elizabeth Burr. Ethel parkers mother was Emma Burr. The parents of Elizabeth and Emma Burr are one of the same - Jonathon Burr. i've completly started from scrtach on numerous occasions, but with always the same result. Unfortunately, it really messes up the tree. Hope this makes sense! Any help you can give me would be much appreciated. Many thanks.
Bob N.


Re: Unable to open file. File not found.

Mike Tate
 

If the name of the Project has changed then that is probably the cause.

The FHUG Knowledge Base has an article on Project Structure:

https://fhug.org.uk/kb/kb-article/understanding-projects/

 

There are four folders and files that are crucial to a valid Project structure.

Under the Family Historian Projects folder, there is the Project folder.

If the Project name is XYZ then that folder is named XYZ

In that folder is the FH Project File named XYZ.fh_proj

Also, there is the FH data folder named XYZ.fh_data

That holds the GEDCOM file named XYZ.ged

 

If any one of those is disrupted then the Project has problems.

 

Mike Tate

 

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Connie Williams
Sent: 31 January 2021 21:10
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] Unable to open file. File not found.

 


In my basic Project Window, I have suddenly discovered that 'the file cannot be found.' I can see that somehow the name of my project has become altered.  Probably the cause?    My backup in Documents and another in an external drive seem to be unaffected.  Could you point me to an instruction to read and learn from if there is one?  I  am still in FH6 and have not tried to get to grips with 7 yet.

Connie


Re: Unable to open file. File not found.

Robert Jordan
 

Connie
Strangely enough this happened to me today. I use 3rd party software to back up and from that it seems that the .gedcom file mysteriously disappeared and I was able to do a reverse back up to put the file back. I would hesitate to offer advice on how you can restore it except to say the backup/ restore facilities do not work. I would suggest you look at your back up files in in the drive that does work and make a note of where the .gedcom file is, then check to see if it is in the same location on your main drive if it is not there you could copy it from backup and paste it onto main drive in exactly the same place
Robert Jordan


Unable to open file. File not found.

Connie Williams
 


In my basic Project Window, I have suddenly discovered that 'the file cannot be found.' I can see that somehow the name of my project has become altered.  Probably the cause?    My backup in Documents and another in an external drive seem to be unaffected.  Could you point me to an instruction to read and learn from if there is one?  I  am still in FH6 and have not tried to get to grips with 7 yet.

Connie


Re: Printing charts

Mark R.
 

Hey, Neil. I tried it and it worked great. Thanks again for your assistance.  Have a great weekend. 

Mark

-------- Original message --------
From: "Neil Grantham via groups.io" <neil40@...>
Date: 1/29/21 9:22 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Printing charts

Hi Mark


If you open a standard Diagram, for example a Descendant, from the toolbar, if these are shown, go to Diagrams>Options menu and check all the tabs to change what you want.

To remove Text dates etc. go to the Text Tab and scroll down to find 'Name Only', for Pictures, the Pictures Tab remove any ticks in the ...for these Box Types section.


If you wish this to be temporary, remove the 'Remember Options' tick (in V7 - can't remember if that's the same wording in V6) before you click OK.

If you forget, all Diagrams will have no dates or pictures until you reverse the above.


Best Wishes


Neil.





------ Original Message ------
From: oriolesbball@...
To: family-historian@groups.io
Sent: Friday, 29 Jan, 2021 At 14:06
Subject: [family-historian] Printing charts

Hi. I'm new to the Group.

I would like to print diagrams for a family member. However, I do not want to print diagrams with any information such as dates or photographs of family members. I only want to print diagrams with names. Can you help me set up so that I can print.

Thanks so much in advance for your assistance.

Mark

--
Neil Grantham
-------------------
Using FH 7 & AS 7
Researching Grantham, Skuce, Barrow, Birchall.


Re: Does FH7 Do a Direct Import fro RM6?

Jan Murphy
 

If you're importing files from other programs to FH, don't forget the FHUG forum and the articles in the Knowledge Base: https://fhug.org.uk/kb/kb-article/importing-to-family-historian/ 



Jan Murphy
Moderator Pro Tempore


Re: Marrying Cousins - Reply

Robert Newberry
 

Thanks again for your continued interest. I have been using Family Tree programmes for many years and currently have near 4000 people on my tree, many closely related. This is the first time I have seen this phenomena of of the duplicated offsprings. Everything is telling me this is correct but my dinosaur brain just finds it, well - odd!
Anyway, I will find a quiet corner and work out why!
Thank you so much for taking the time and trouble to explain.
Bob


On 30 Jan 2021, at 18:26, Mike Tate <post@...> wrote:

As a matter of interest, what would you expect to see?

Imagine trying to superimpose those married cousins on top of each other in the Diagram.

There is only one sibling in your example, but imagine if both cousins had several younger and older siblings who were also married perhaps with children.

Do you see what a complex mess it would be with many crossing lines?

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Newberry via groups.io
Sent: 30 January 2021 18:07
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Marrying Cousins - Reply

 

Can't thank you enough. It just looks so odd when you see it for the first time!

Very best

Bob


On 30 Jan 2021, at 17:50, Mike Tate <post@...> wrote:

Yes, as Neil says, that is perfect.

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Neil Grantham via groups.io
Sent: 30 January 2021 17:21
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Marrying Cousins - Reply

 

Looks correct to me, showing the link between cousins.

Best Wishes
Neil

Sent via BT Email App

 

From: Robert Newberry via groups.io
Sent: Jan 30, 2021 at 5:18 PM
Tofamily-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Marrying Cousins - Reply

Hello again Mike

I sort of see what you are saying. I also use Ancestry and had the same result, they also wrote back and said having two shown lines is correct. I've attached a very simplified tree to show my problem. I wonder if you would be kind enough just to have a look at it and confirm that's as it should be.

Very many thanks

Bob


Re: Marrying Cousins - Reply

Mike Tate
 

As a matter of interest, what would you expect to see?

Imagine trying to superimpose those married cousins on top of each other in the Diagram.

There is only one sibling in your example, but imagine if both cousins had several younger and older siblings who were also married perhaps with children.

Do you see what a complex mess it would be with many crossing lines?

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Newberry via groups.io
Sent: 30 January 2021 18:07
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Marrying Cousins - Reply

 

Can't thank you enough. It just looks so odd when you see it for the first time!

Very best

Bob


On 30 Jan 2021, at 17:50, Mike Tate <post@...> wrote:

Yes, as Neil says, that is perfect.

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Neil Grantham via groups.io
Sent: 30 January 2021 17:21
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Marrying Cousins - Reply

 

Looks correct to me, showing the link between cousins.

Best Wishes
Neil

Sent via BT Email App

 

From: Robert Newberry via groups.io
Sent: Jan 30, 2021 at 5:18 PM
Tofamily-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Marrying Cousins - Reply

Hello again Mike

I sort of see what you are saying. I also use Ancestry and had the same result, they also wrote back and said having two shown lines is correct. I've attached a very simplified tree to show my problem. I wonder if you would be kind enough just to have a look at it and confirm that's as it should be.

Very many thanks

Bob


Re: Marrying Cousins - Reply

Robert Newberry
 

Can't thank you enough. It just looks so odd when you see it for the first time!
Very best
Bob


On 30 Jan 2021, at 17:50, Mike Tate <post@...> wrote:

Yes, as Neil says, that is perfect.

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Neil Grantham via groups.io
Sent: 30 January 2021 17:21
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Marrying Cousins - Reply

 

Looks correct to me, showing the link between cousins.

Best Wishes
Neil

Sent via BT Email App

 

From: Robert Newberry via groups.io
Sent: Jan 30, 2021 at 5:18 PM
Tofamily-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Marrying Cousins - Reply

Hello again Mike

I sort of see what you are saying. I also use Ancestry and had the same result, they also wrote back and said having two shown lines is correct. I've attached a very simplified tree to show my problem. I wonder if you would be kind enough just to have a look at it and confirm that's as it should be.

Very many thanks

Bob


Re: Marrying Cousins - Reply

Mike Tate
 

Yes, as Neil says, that is perfect.

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Neil Grantham via groups.io
Sent: 30 January 2021 17:21
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Marrying Cousins - Reply

 

Looks correct to me, showing the link between cousins.

Best Wishes
Neil

Sent via BT Email App

 

From: Robert Newberry via groups.io
Sent: Jan 30, 2021 at 5:18 PM
Tofamily-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Marrying Cousins - Reply

Hello again Mike

I sort of see what you are saying. I also use Ancestry and had the same result, they also wrote back and said having two shown lines is correct. I've attached a very simplified tree to show my problem. I wonder if you would be kind enough just to have a look at it and confirm that's as it should be.

Very many thanks

Bob


Re: Marrying Cousins - Reply

Neil Grantham
 

Looks correct to me, showing the link between cousins.

Best Wishes
Neil

Sent via BT Email App


From: Robert Newberry via groups.io
Sent: Jan 30, 2021 at 5:18 PM
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Marrying Cousins - Reply

Hello again Mike

I sort of see what you are saying. I also use Ancestry and had the same result, they also wrote back and said having two shown lines is correct. I've attached a very simplified tree to show my problem. I wonder if you would be kind enough just to have a look at it and confirm that's as it should be.

Very many thanks

Bob




------ Original Message ------
From: "Robert Newberry via groups.io" <bob.newberry@...>
To: family-historian@groups.io
Sent: Saturday, 30 Jan, 2021 At 12:21
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Marrying Cousins

Thanks so much Mike, let me study this and get back to you later.
Best wishes.
Bob


On 30 Jan 2021, at 11:11, Mike Tate <post@...> wrote:

Hi Bob,

If you think about it, when cousins marry, they have joined two branches of the same family tree.

So the FH Diagram reflects that by showing both branches.

Presumably, you are getting coloured ribbons linking the people who exist in both branches?

I’m not sure what you mean by linking to the shared grandparents.

You need to select one cousin, and when adding their spouse, select the other existing cousin.

The grandparents should not be involved in the process, but will become common shared ancestors.

How the Diagram is displayed depends on who you choose as the Starting Person for the root of the Diagram.

Sometimes only one branch is displayed initially, but if both are shown then one can easily be hidden.

Also, there are options to adjust the coloured ribbons. See Diagram > Options > General tab Check for duplicates & Options button.

It is difficult to give precise advice without seeing your Diagram.

Unfortunately, screenshots in this Email forum must be reviewed manually by administrators, so may take some time to get through.

The FHUG Forum https://www.fhug.org.uk/forum/ is much faster.

Mike Tate

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of bob.newberry via groups.io
Sent: 29 January 2021 16:13
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] Marrying Cousins

My first post! Hi everyone.
My Family Historian 7 seems to be having a problem coping with first cousins marrying. As soon as I try and link to the shared grandparents, it keeps giving me two duplicated lines of descent. I have a James Edmonds marrying an Ethel Parker. James Edmonds mother was Elizabeth Burr. Ethel parkers mother was Emma Burr. The parents of Elizabeth and Emma Burr are one of the same - Jonathon Burr. i've completly started from scrtach on numerous occasions, but with always the same result. Unfortunately, it really messes up the tree. Hope this makes sense! Any help you can give me would be much appreciated. Many thanks.
Bob N.



--
Neil Grantham
-------------------
Using FH 7 & AS 7
Researching Grantham, Skuce, Barrow, Birchall.


Re: Marrying Cousins - Reply

Robert Newberry
 

Hello again Mike

I sort of see what you are saying. I also use Ancestry and had the same result, they also wrote back and said having two shown lines is correct. I've attached a very simplified tree to show my problem. I wonder if you would be kind enough just to have a look at it and confirm that's as it should be.

Very many thanks

Bob




------ Original Message ------
From: "Robert Newberry via groups.io" <bob.newberry@...>
To: family-historian@groups.io
Sent: Saturday, 30 Jan, 2021 At 12:21
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Marrying Cousins

Thanks so much Mike, let me study this and get back to you later.
Best wishes.
Bob


On 30 Jan 2021, at 11:11, Mike Tate <post@...> wrote:

Hi Bob,

If you think about it, when cousins marry, they have joined two branches of the same family tree.

So the FH Diagram reflects that by showing both branches.

Presumably, you are getting coloured ribbons linking the people who exist in both branches?

I’m not sure what you mean by linking to the shared grandparents.

You need to select one cousin, and when adding their spouse, select the other existing cousin.

The grandparents should not be involved in the process, but will become common shared ancestors.

How the Diagram is displayed depends on who you choose as the Starting Person for the root of the Diagram.

Sometimes only one branch is displayed initially, but if both are shown then one can easily be hidden.

Also, there are options to adjust the coloured ribbons. See Diagram > Options > General tab Check for duplicates & Options button.

It is difficult to give precise advice without seeing your Diagram.

Unfortunately, screenshots in this Email forum must be reviewed manually by administrators, so may take some time to get through.

The FHUG Forum https://www.fhug.org.uk/forum/ is much faster.

Mike Tate

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of bob.newberry via groups.io
Sent: 29 January 2021 16:13
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] Marrying Cousins

My first post! Hi everyone.
My Family Historian 7 seems to be having a problem coping with first cousins marrying. As soon as I try and link to the shared grandparents, it keeps giving me two duplicated lines of descent. I have a James Edmonds marrying an Ethel Parker. James Edmonds mother was Elizabeth Burr. Ethel parkers mother was Emma Burr. The parents of Elizabeth and Emma Burr are one of the same - Jonathon Burr. i've completly started from scrtach on numerous occasions, but with always the same result. Unfortunately, it really messes up the tree. Hope this makes sense! Any help you can give me would be much appreciated. Many thanks.
Bob N.


Re: To Do List reports

Mike Tate
 

Hi Tom,

Fundamentally, you are suffering the teething problems of any major software upgrade.

Many current users have not faced these issues as the FH V5 to V6 upgrade happened 6 years ago.

 

Regarding the Property Box, are you talking about the Facts tab +Add Fact button not listing To Do?

You can still add To Do facts via the More Fact Types… option.

Once you find the To Do Attribute there, click More>> then Edit… and tick Fast-Add Menu.

 

The View menu is now the long way to open Reports and Queries.

Use the Publish and Query icons on the toolbar instead.

 

Those Custom Reports were present in FH V6 and not magically invented by FH V7.

 

Initially, all Custom Queries are listed together just as they were in FH V6.

When you go to choose Queries you will see there are 8 group categories to help you find a Query.

After selecting a To Do query and choosing View ensure the General tab is open.

At the bottom, you can assign the query to up to three existing groups or <Add New…> group.

For advice, hit the F1 keyboard button, go to The General Tab and the groups are explained.

 

There is a lot for you to discover about FH V7…

 

Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Gray via groups.io
Sent: 30 January 2021 15:53
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] To Do List reports

 

Back in 2017 with a great deal of help and advice from Mike Tate in particular, I managed to create a To Do function.

 

Since upgrading to V7 my To Do List function has changed.

 

In the Property Box under the Fact tab there was a To Do option. The To Do option in the Fact tab of the Property Box no longer appears. It still shows in older records I have created it but not in new ones I am creating. Is there a way to get it back?

 

Under Custom Queries I could run a To Do Tasks for each of the individual events involved (Birth, Marriage, Death or Census) or a To Do List that contained all of them. I got them under Custom Queries and selected either To Do List or To do Tasks and the respective report was shown.

It now seems to be much more complicated (for me) to achieve the same thing.

 

I now find If I go View>Publish>Custom Reports I get two further options.

a) To Do List which gives all the to do items for the individual record currently shown in the Property Box.

b) To Do Tasks for the individual record currently shown in the Property Box with a drop down selection showing other individuals and an option to browse for others. I do not think this option was in V6 or if so I never noticed it.

 

If I go View>Query>All Custom Reports and click on it I get a pop up box showing To Do List and To Do Tasks. Whichever one I highlight I have the option to Run, View, Delete or Close.

Run does as it says and produces the report selected, either all B,M,D or C or the individual item selected.

View opens the set up page for the query (Custom) selected with tabs General, Columns, Rows, Result Set.

I presume this would allow the query to be amended?

 

If I go View>Query there is also an option shown as follows <New/ungrouped queries> Clicking on this gives the options To Do List which if selected produces the all B, M, D or Census report. Selecting the To Do Tasks gives a pop up to select which single item is required and the produces it.

 

Is there a way to simplify the above? 

If I can find them, could the settings used in V6 to set this up be used in V7?

 

Regards

 

Tom Gray


To Do List reports

Tom Gray
 

Back in 2017 with a great deal of help and advice from Mike Tate in particular, I managed to create a To Do function.

 

Since upgrading to V7 my To Do List function has changed.

 

In the Property Box under the Fact tab there was a To Do option. The To Do option in the Fact tab of the Property Box no longer appears. It still shows in older records I have created it but not in new ones I am creating. Is there a way to get it back?

 

Under Custom Queries I could run a To Do Tasks for each of the individual events involved (Birth, Marriage, Death or Census) or a To Do List that contained all of them. I got them under Custom Queries and selected either To Do List or To do Tasks and the respective report was shown.

It now seems to be much more complicated (for me) to achieve the same thing.

 

I now find If I go View>Publish>Custom Reports I get two further options.

a) To Do List which gives all the to do items for the individual record currently shown in the Property Box.

b) To Do Tasks for the individual record currently shown in the Property Box with a drop down selection showing other individuals and an option to browse for others. I do not think this option was in V6 or if so I never noticed it.

 

If I go View>Query>All Custom Reports and click on it I get a pop up box showing To Do List and To Do Tasks. Whichever one I highlight I have the option to Run, View, Delete or Close.

Run does as it says and produces the report selected, either all B,M,D or C or the individual item selected.

View opens the set up page for the query (Custom) selected with tabs General, Columns, Rows, Result Set.

I presume this would allow the query to be amended?

 

If I go View>Query there is also an option shown as follows <New/ungrouped queries> Clicking on this gives the options To Do List which if selected produces the all B, M, D or Census report. Selecting the To Do Tasks gives a pop up to select which single item is required and the produces it.

 

Is there a way to simplify the above?  

If I can find them, could the settings used in V6 to set this up be used in V7?

 

Regards

 

Tom Gray


Re: Marrying Cousins

Robert Newberry
 

Very many thanks. I will have a good study of that. Thanks for getting back to me.

Best wishes.

Bob




------ Original Message ------
From: "Graham Kent" <graham.kent872@...>
To: family-historian@groups.io
Sent: Saturday, 30 Jan, 2021 At 13:34
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Marrying Cousins

If you search through the Help file in fH7 for "ribbons", you will find a variety of options that you can adjust to suit your taste.

The main option is "Check for Duplicates" which appears when you have a Diagram Open and select Diagram > Options from the main menu. The Check for Duplicates tick box is near the bottom left of the General Tab.

Hope this helps,
Graham


Re: Marrying Cousins

Graham Kent
 

If you search through the Help file in fH7 for "ribbons", you will find a variety of options that you can adjust to suit your taste.

The main option is "Check for Duplicates" which appears when you have a Diagram Open and select Diagram > Options from the main menu. The Check for Duplicates tick box is near the bottom left of the General Tab.

Hope this helps,
Graham 


Re: Upgrade

Jeremy Hills
 

Many thanks, Jeremy

truffle@cix.co.uk

In article <000901d6f6f9$8cab1440$a6013cc0$@tatewise.co.uk>,
post@tatewise.co.uk (Mike Tate) wrote:

*From:* Mike Tate <post@tatewise.co.uk>
*To:* family-historian@groups.io
*Date:* Sat, 30 Jan 2021 11:17:50 -0000

For this kind of advice, the FHUG Knowledge Base is a mine of
information.
See _Upgrading to Family Historian 7_:
https://fhug.org.uk/kb/kb-article/upgrading-to-family-historian-7/

Check out the _What_s New in Family Historian7?_ both online and in
the FH V7 Help pages, which also has _Notes on Upgrading to Version
7_.

Mike Tate

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On
Behalf Of truffle@cix.co.uk
Sent: 29 January 2021 17:12
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] Upgrade

I have been following all the posts in this group and seeing a
number of problems with the change to FH7, which I have already
downloaded! I have been waiting until things settle down but I now
wonder whether there is an "Idiots Guide" to changing to FH7 which
will cover the main problems? Thank you, Jeremy Hills








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Re: Marrying Cousins

Robert Newberry
 

Thanks so much John. Let me study this and get back to you later.
Best wishes.
Bob


On 30 Jan 2021, at 10:09, John Hanson <john.hanson@...> wrote:

Bob
If you mean in diagrams it is just showing you that the person appears in two trees
No way to stop it (unless something sneaked into FH7 that I am yet to find!) but there has been many discussions over the years on how to reduce the impact of the ribbons

 

Regards
John Hanson - researching the Halstead/Holstead/Alstead names
Researcher, the Halsted Trust - https://www.halsted.org.uk
Research website - https://www.halstedresearch.org.uk

2021 Family History Conference - https://www.elizabethanancestors.org.uk

 

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of bob.newberry via groups.io
Sent: 29 January 2021 16:13
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] Marrying Cousins

 

My first post! Hi everyone.
My Family Historian 7 seems to be having a problem coping with first cousins marrying. As soon as I try and link to the shared grandparents, it keeps giving me two duplicated lines of descent. I have a James Edmonds marrying an Ethel Parker. James Edmonds mother was Elizabeth Burr. Ethel parkers mother was Emma Burr. The parents of Elizabeth and Emma Burr are one of the same - Jonathon Burr.  i've completly started from scrtach on numerous occasions, but with always the same result. Unfortunately, it really messes up the tree. Hope this makes sense! Any help you can give me would be much appreciated. Many thanks.
Bob N. 


Re: Marrying Cousins

Robert Newberry
 

Thanks so much Mike, let me study this and get back to you later.
Best wishes.
Bob


On 30 Jan 2021, at 11:11, Mike Tate <post@...> wrote:

Hi Bob,

If you think about it, when cousins marry, they have joined two branches of the same family tree.

So the FH Diagram reflects that by showing both branches.

Presumably, you are getting coloured ribbons linking the people who exist in both branches?

 

I’m not sure what you mean by linking to the shared grandparents.

You need to select one cousin, and when adding their spouse, select the other existing cousin.

The grandparents should not be involved in the process, but will become common shared ancestors.

 

How the Diagram is displayed depends on who you choose as the Starting Person for the root of the Diagram.

Sometimes only one branch is displayed initially, but if both are shown then one can easily be hidden.

Also, there are options to adjust the coloured ribbons. See Diagram > Options > General tab Check for duplicates & Options button.

 

It is difficult to give precise advice without seeing your Diagram.

Unfortunately, screenshots in this Email forum must be reviewed manually by administrators, so may take some time to get through.

The FHUG Forum https://www.fhug.org.uk/forum/ is much faster.

 

Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of bob.newberry via groups.io
Sent: 29 January 2021 16:13
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] Marrying Cousins

 

My first post! Hi everyone.
My Family Historian 7 seems to be having a problem coping with first cousins marrying. As soon as I try and link to the shared grandparents, it keeps giving me two duplicated lines of descent. I have a James Edmonds marrying an Ethel Parker. James Edmonds mother was Elizabeth Burr. Ethel parkers mother was Emma Burr. The parents of Elizabeth and Emma Burr are one of the same - Jonathon Burr.  i've completly started from scrtach on numerous occasions, but with always the same result. Unfortunately, it really messes up the tree. Hope this makes sense! Any help you can give me would be much appreciated. Many thanks.
Bob N. 

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