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Re: Plugins: Generations Pre-Load Source Clean & Generations Post Edit

Mike Tate
 

They were attached to a FHUG Forum posting around 2014 that no longer exists.

However, a Google search has found them in https://github.com/jane-t/plugins which belongs to Jane Taubman who is the FHUG Forum admin.

So either download the scripts into a Plugin file or ask in the FHUG Forum and Jane might be able to help.

 

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of dave@...
Sent: 25 January 2021 19:28
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] Plugins: Generations Pre-Load Source Clean & Generations Post Edit

 

I'm looking at the possibility of having to import an old Generations gedcom into FH V6.
Reading the guidance, it lists a number of plugins that may be useful.
Unfortunately I can't find the two listed above.
Can anyone point me in the direction of copies please?
Many thanks

Dave


Plugins: Generations Pre-Load Source Clean & Generations Post Edit

dave@...
 

I'm looking at the possibility of having to import an old Generations gedcom into FH V6.
Reading the guidance, it lists a number of plugins that may be useful.
Unfortunately I can't find the two listed above.
Can anyone point me in the direction of copies please?
Many thanks

Dave


Re: Location for a death in WW1

Graham Kent
 

John,

I had the same issue, but resolved it when I found the Wikipedia article about the Battle - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Jutland.  That page records the location as
"North Sea, near Denmark", but it also provides an Easting-Northing that can be copied into FH7 (it automatically converts to your display method once entered).

Hope this helps


Re: Sending a tree as a file

Graham Kent
 

Hi Roger,

I sent an 'All Relatives' diagram of one of my cousins to her yesterday. It contained 950 people and was over 8.5Mbs in size.

I use Mozilla Thunderbird as my email program, and it recommended sending the file as a link using Dropbox. I clicked "Yes" and it sent the email a minute later. There was a second attachment (another diagram) but as that was less than 5Mb, that was included in the email as an attachment.

Hope this helps.


Re: Location for a death in WW1

Adrian Bruce
 

I think it depends on what reports and charts you want to see. If you're just going to produce basic, tabular reports (as distinct from narratives) then I'd suggest a place name of "Battle of Jutland, North Sea" and an address of "HMS Chester". That would allow you to gather all deaths from that battle because they'll all have the same place name. (Which might not be that useful of course!)

Not sure why David W adds Denmark to the place name unless it was in Danish territorial waters at the time?

If you want to run off a narrative report, the prepositions are all wrong, so maybe keep the values that I suggest but alter that single narrative sentence to replace (or suppress?) the "at" by "on board". 

Really, the decision about whether to put the ship into the place name or the address is just a personal preference when you only have one or two. 



Re: Source Records

Mike Tate
 

Thank you Trevor, but as has been commented many times before, your method is somewhat unconventional and for a new user could be confusing if you don’t say so.

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Trevor Rix
Sent: 25 January 2021 18:07
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Source Records

 

My method is to download images of original sources such as census and parish registers. I link these images to the people concerned. My only FH Sources are the census years as required by Ancestral Sources. The images are my sources. I do not transcribe them apart from names dates ages and places.


Re: Source Records

Trevor Rix
 

My method is to download images of original sources such as census and parish registers. I link these images to the people concerned. My only FH Sources are the census years as required by Ancestral Sources. The images are my sources. I do not transcribe them apart from names dates ages and places.


Re: Location for a death in WW1

David Wilkinson
 


I have the same and I have recorded the place as

HMS Invincible, Battle of Jutland,,, North Sea, Denmark

with a location of 57°14'29.74"N, 6°11'23.29"E  which was approximately the center of the battle area.

Hope that helps

David Wilkinson


On 25/01/2021 17:34, John Hanson wrote:

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Location for a death in WW1

John Hanson
 

One of my ancestor was killed on HMS Chester at the Battle of Jutland on 31st May 1916

What is the best way to record the place of death?

Army is easy – Navy not so sure of

Regards
John Hanson - researching the Halstead/Holstead/Alstead names
Researcher, the Halsted Trust - https://www.halsted.org.uk
Research website - https://www.halstedresearch.org.uk

2021 Family History Conference - https://www.elizabethanancestors.org.uk

 

 


Re: Source Records

colevalleygirl@colevalleygirl.co.uk
 

You will probably want to create more detailed titles than that or you will end up with a lot of courses with the same name 😊

 

Yes, you can link a Source record to a Media record that points in turn to a scanned image.

 

 

Have a look at this KnowledgeBase article https://fhug.org.uk/kb/kb-article/sources-and-citations-in-version-7-for-new-users/

 

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of David Merrington
Sent: 25 January 2021 15:41
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] Source Records

 

As a relatively new user I am not clear on how to record source material. It appears (to my dumb mind!) that I should just type in the source of my record e.g. 'Birth certificate' or '1911 census record'. I had hoped that I might be able to link to a scanned copy of such a record or even have a link. Please advise. NB I have just upgraded from V6 to V7


Source Records

David Merrington <david.merrington69@...>
 

As a relatively new user I am not clear on how to record source material. It appears (to my dumb mind!) that I should just type in the source of my record e.g. 'Birth certificate' or '1911 census record'. I had hoped that I might be able to link to a scanned copy of such a record or even have a link. Please advise. NB I have just upgraded from V6 to V7


Re: Sending a tree as a file

Lorna Craig
 

In case you don't know how to create the PDF Trevor has mentioned:  use Diagram>Save Diagram As>PDF file.  Make sure the option is selected to "Adjust PDF File Page Size so that the Diagram fits into One Page (if possible)".  By default the PDF will be saved in the Public folder of your project.   As it's a large diagram you will need to use the zoom controls in your PDF reader to make the text readable, then scroll to view different areas.

If the diagram exceeds the maximum dimensions for the FH PDF creator, there is advice about how to adjust the diagram scaling in this article in the FHUG Knowledge Base: https://fhug.org.uk/kb/kb-article/single-pdf-page-of-a-diagram/

Lorna

On 25/01/2021 15:02, Trevor Rix wrote:
Create a pdf of the diagram on one pdf page. Then attached that pdf to an email.


Re: Sending a tree as a file

Trevor Rix
 

Create a pdf of the diagram on one pdf page. Then attached that pdf to an email.


Sending a tree as a file

Roger Evans
 

Is there some/any way I can send a family tree diagram running into 1000+ individuals by file transfer?, I already send narrative reports.


Re: tree

Lorna Craig
 

Hello,

Family Historian 3 is now very out of date but if you have it installed on your computer it should still work.   Why are you unable to access it?  

If you purchase and install V7 on the same computer your data will be preserved, but as a precaution you should make a full backup of your V3 Gedcom file and any linked media files first.  (You should always keep backups anyway, in case of computer failure). There have been very many changes since version 3 so it will be a steep learning curve.

On 22/01/2021 16:37, Kathleen Snodgrass via groups.io wrote:

Begin forwarded message:

From: snodders1@...
Date: 22 January 2021 at 16:29:54 GMT
To: snodders1@...
Subject: tree



Hello.

 

I have been researching my family tree for a number of years and have all the information on Family Historian 3.

 

I now find that I am unable to access it and a box appears saying buy now.

 

If I am to purchase should I buy version 6 or 7 and if I do so will all my information still appear as it was, or am I going to just get a blank programme with all my previous work lost?

 

Can anybody help and advise please.

 

Mike.

 


Re: New user place/address advice

Adrian Bruce
 

Michael - I would agree with your understandings for your Chicago examples.

However, for my stuff, I have expanded the town-city element into two
to allow the use of suburb / town-city. For example instead of
"Chicago, Cook, Illinois, United States" I'd have (fictitious example)
"Downtown, Chicago, Cook, Illinois, United States" if I used the
suburb or ", Chicago, Cook, Illinois, United States" if I didn't have
a suburb and wanted to keep to a consistent number of "columns".

As for Wales, well, England, Wales & Scotland follow pretty much the
same pattern except that it's town-city / county / country, thus:
"Holy Trinity, Mostyn St., Llandudno, Caernarfonshire, Wales"
if you put the 2 parts of address into Place (this doesn't have a
suburb element).

Or, if you split:
"Holy Trinity, Mostyn St." for the address and
"Llandudno, Caernarfonshire, Wales" for the place (still with no suburb)

Obviously you can map the Welsh town-city / county / country onto the
US town-city / county / State / country by using an empty column, e.g.
"Llandudno, , Caernarfonshire, Wales" would be 4 columns lining up to
"Chicago, Cook, Illinois, United States"
(Whether you map the Welsh county onto the American county or the
American State is up to you but our county is usually the level below
the country so I'd map it onto the State. But that's me...)

Also with Wales, you have to decide whether to use the Welsh spellings
throughout history or use the contemporary spelling - usually English
- for the earlier events, which would give:
"Llandudno, , Carnarvonshire, Wales" in the 4 column form.

Ireland is different..... Oh so different....

Hope that helps,
Adrian

On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 at 03:24, michael fike <postalcae@gmail.com> wrote:

Looking for advice. New user with FH … coming from Rootsmagic.

Place and address setup (columns). I haven’t decided on how to use each. I am going through examples in my tree and see how they work with FH.


I have the following location …

St. Michael Church, 8237 South Shore Drive, Chicago, Cook, Illinois, United States.


If I lump the location only in Place or Address, I will need 6 columns. Name, street&number, city, county, state, and country. Correct?


If I split between place and address I would have 2 columns for address, and 4 columns for place. Correct?

Place: Chicago, Cook, Illinois, United States

Address: St. Michael Church, 8237 South Shore Drive


What if I have just the street & address (no name)? IE: 1234 Water St., Chicago, Cook, Illinois, United States. I would still need a leading entry ( , ) for name correct?


The entry would look like …

,1234 Water St., Chicago, Cook, Illinois, United States

Do I have a correct understanding?


Lastly … I do have ancestors in Wales which I have not researched yet. For proper locations in the UK (Wales) how many columns would I need for place if I put ALL the information in place?

How many columns in place and address if I split the location?


Any advice would be appreciated.


michael


Re: New user place/address advice

Mike Tate
 

Hi Michael,

There is much current discussion in the FHUG Forum for ‘Importing and Exporting’ regarding RM.

e.g.

‘Rootsmagic->Family Historian’

‘error in import from Rootsmagic’

‘FH -> RootsMagic -> Ancestry (Work-in-Progress)’

‘Exporting to Roots Magic 7’

‘Import RootsMagic 7 into Family Historian 7’

 

There are also many RM migrants who are active in the Forums

I suggest you post your question there: https://fhug.org.uk/forum/

Did you know that the Place Lat/Longitude can accompany RM data imported to FH?

 

Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of michael fike
Sent: 25 January 2021 03:24
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] New user place/address advice

 

Looking for advice.  New user with FH … coming from Rootsmagic.

Place and address setup (columns).  I haven’t decided on how to use each.  I am going through examples in my tree and see how they work with FH.


I have the following location …

St. Michael Church, 8237 South Shore Drive, Chicago, Cook, Illinois, United States.


If I lump the location only in Place or Address, I will need 6 columns. Name, street&number, city, county, state, and country.  Correct?


If I split between place and address I would have 2 columns for address, and 4 columns for place.  Correct?

                Place:  Chicago, Cook, Illinois, United States

                Address:  St. Michael Church, 8237 South Shore Drive


What if I have just the street & address (no name)?  IE:  1234 Water St., Chicago, Cook, Illinois, United States.  I would still need a leading entry ( , ) for name correct?


The entry would look like …

                ,1234 Water St., Chicago, Cook, Illinois, United States

Do I have a correct understanding?


Lastly … I do have ancestors in Wales which I have not researched yet.  For proper locations in the UK (Wales) how many columns would I need for place if I put ALL the information in place?

How many columns in place and address if I split the location?


Any advice would be appreciated.


michael


Re: FH6

Mike Tate
 

Does the FH V6 bought for Christmas come with a free upgrade to FH V7?

Was it a download bought from Calico Pie which should have a free upgrade, or bought elsewhere which may or may not have a free upgrade?

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of newcroft2015@...
Sent: 25 January 2021 10:46
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] FH6

 

Hello there
Hope you can help - I am in a right muddle. IT and tech scares me witless!  And I cannot get my usual friendly help in to help me out due to lock down! 

Due to various computer and laptop break downs etc etc I have FH6 installed on my PC but not on my laptop.  I have lost my licence number and cannot install on my new laptop. 

So family thought it would be a good idea to buy me FH6 for Christmas unknowingly before FH7 came out.  Unfortunately I haven't been able to load it and work with it yet.  Am I still able to load Version 6 and then upgrade to 7? 

Also, all my projects are saved in Dropbox -  FH opens in Dropbox and that is where I work on them.  If I delete the old version and install the new will my projects be save in Dropbox and will the new version open my projects from Dropbox?

Thanks for any help.  
Cynthia 


Re: GRO

colevalleygirl@colevalleygirl.co.uk
 

Victor, Mike: 1.3.3 and 1.3.4 were posted in the FHUG forums at https://fhug.org.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=16641&start=50#p106661

 

 

 

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Victor Markham via groups.io
Sent: 25 January 2021 10:43
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] GRO

 

That is the only way I could have got it. So am puzzled by your comments

On 25 Jan 2021, at 10:10, Mike Tate <post@...> wrote:

Victor, you did not get that from the Plugin Store which is at Version 1.3 not 1.3.3 and is NOT updated for FH V7. Maybe it is an updated copy from the FHUG Forum? If so, then that would be a better place to discuss any adjustments.


Re: GRO

John Hanson
 

Victor

Assuming that you haven’t renamed your plugins what is the name that it appears under in the list of plugins

 

Regards
John Hanson - researching the Halstead/Holstead/Alstead names
Researcher, the Halsted Trust - https://www.halsted.org.uk
Research website - https://www.halstedresearch.org.uk

2021 Family History Conference - https://www.elizabethanancestors.org.uk

 

 

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Victor Markham via groups.io
Sent: 24 January 2021 21:05
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] GRO

 

This the one I got from the plug store after the V7 upgrade

This is different from what we had in V6

Victor

 

On 24/01/2021 9:00 pm, Mike Tate wrote:

Exactly which plugin are you talking about? What is its full Title, Author, Version & Date?

There are two similar plugins in the Plugin Store but neither has been updated for FH V7.

 

Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Victor Markham via groups.io
Sent: 24 January 2021 20:50
To: Family History <family-historian@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [family-historian] GRO

 

I guessed that what is needed is for the plugin to reflect this so we can just mention the year

On 24 Jan 2021, at 20:39, Chris King <christournayking@...> wrote:

Hi Victor, 

 

The GRO stopped using quarter's at that time. FreeBMD is only reflecting the change. 

 

Regards, 

Chris 

Sent from my Huawei phone



-------- Original message --------
From: "Victor Markham via groups.io" <victor@...>
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2021, 17:57
To: Family History <family-historian@groups.io>
Subject: [family-historian] GRO

I have used the GRO plugin quite a lot

It is great but on FreeBMD after 1983 it doesn't list the quarters.

Is there an option on GRO just to show the year he event took place

As things are I always end up with the first quarter. Is there a way of
leaving this blank i.e. not showing a quarter

Victor





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