Re: Ancestral Sources
waltonnz
Sorry, I did look but couldn't find it. Could you please point me in the right direction? Patricia
On Fri, 8 Jan 2021 at 23:31, Mike Tate <post@...> wrote:
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Mapping Facility in FH
Robert Jordan
There have been a number of different threads on this site concerning the Maps facility in FH. As this is a slightly different angle I decided to start a new thread. Some people are trying to merge Places to be consistent and we now learn that the AI process of geocoding really only recognises the latest Place automatically and not historical places. I give some examples. Early in 1974 I lived in a place Keynsham, Somerset. On 1 April that year when I woke up I found that without moving house I lived at a Place Keynsham, Wansdyke, Avon. Some time later, after I had actually moved, Avon and Wansdyke were abolished and my old Place became Keynsham, Bath and North East Somerset, Somerset. So in the space of 20 or so years the Place had changed twice. Keynsham itself is interesting. Whilst being in Somerset I know for a fact that some of my ancestors were born and married in Mangotsfield, Gloucestershire some 10 or so miles from Keynsham. If however one looks up the event on the BMD website it shows that the Registration event took place in Keynsham. It seems this was as a result of the Poor Law of 1834 which designated Keynsham as the poor law Union for 19 Parishes or Places 14 of which were in Somerset and 5 in Gloucestershire. Another Place is Tilehurst, a parish, which before April 1974 would have been Tilehurst, Berkshire (actually in the District of Bradfield). Then it changed to Tilehurst, Newbury Berkshire. Later in 1998 The County Council of Berkshire was abolished it changed again. Part of Tilehurst became Tilehurst, Reading another part of Tilehurst became Tilehurst, West Berkshire (Newbury having changed its name to West Berkshire). As a general rule if I find a document with a Place I will record it exactly as the document shows because historically that is the fact. I would urge caution about using the latest geocoding when the primary task of a Family Historian is to record history not mapping. Robert Jordan
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Re: Errors
Victor Markham
I am using the correct version of AS havin g downloaded the latest verson. I had used it yesterday and things worked normaly as it always has in the past. When I added the census details of a person and saved it FH then opened at that person as t always has. This mornong it didn't. It opened at the root person (i.e. me) . Just did a check on my details. All the images I had on there have disappeared. In fact all images on every name have all gone. All this is in the FH Project which I always use. Victor
On 08/01/2021 9:55 am, Ros wrote:
Make sure you are using the correct version of Ancestral Sources for Version 7, you must have Ancestral Sources 7.
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Re: Errors
Victor, There are several oddities about that Exception Report. None of the 2 _SHAR lines has a @I123@ link to an Individual record as the Shared Fact Witness. The _FAMC should be FAMC and that explains why the Family as Child links are all broken. There was an error reported last month that involved FAMC and PEDI/_PEDI tags that was never resolved. I suggest you preserve as much evidence of the errors as possible, i.e. Exception Log and GEDCOM. Mike Tate
From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Victor Markham via groups.io
Sent: 08 January 2021 08:21 To: Family History <family-historian@groups.io> Subject: [family-historian] Errors
I have been working on my FH tree and after just added some census details I got this message I have V7 Family Historian Exception Report - Friday 08 Jan 2021 Record Type=Individual. Gedcom Id=I11117. Record Number=10964. It opened up on my name with no other family connections shown. I checked my brother and father details they too were alone. I have also checked other names it appear they have all become stand alone names Looks as if all names on my tree have become isolated Victor
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Re: Ancestral Sources
Patricia, This Email list is primarily for FH problems. I suggest you post in the FHUG Forum for Ancestral Sources. There have been other similar problems posted there that Nick has dealt with. Mike Tate
From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of waltonnz
Sent: 08 January 2021 01:58 To: family-historian@groups.io Subject: [family-historian] Ancestral Sources
I'm still using FH vs 6 but downloaded AS vs 7. I'm trying to enter a Census record using Method 2 as I have always done. When I enter the individual, I normally see people related to him below plus a button to add more children. This is not happening. Am I doing something wrong or is the new version different to the previous version? Patricia
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Re: Errors
Ros
Make sure you are using the correct version of Ancestral Sources for Version 7, you must have Ancestral Sources 7.
If you are on 7 for both and still have a problem you need to report the problem on FHUG.
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Re: Errors
Victor Markham
I added the census details via Ancestral Sources.
On 8 Jan 2021, at 08:47, Ros <ros@...> wrote: Did you put the information in with Family Historian or did you use Ancestral Sources? If you used Ancestral Sources you will need to report the problem in the Ancestral Sources forum.
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Re: Errors
Ros
Did you put the information in with Family Historian or did you use Ancestral Sources? If you used Ancestral Sources you will need to report the problem in the Ancestral Sources forum.
In the mean time have you tried restoring a snapshot from prior to the problem?
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Re: FH7 just ending with no reason at all at all for a GEDCOM input - why no error message?
Phil Warn
HI Mike,
If I had but a few K of folks I would have contemplated retyping the tree, but 88K or more?!
I had hoped that there may be a secret “key”/option to switch on debugging even if were verbose to allow me to narrow down why FH knocks off without even a “good bye”!
Is there an upper error limit that just causes the program to end?
Many thanks
Phil
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From: Mike Tate
Sent: 07 January 2021 18:54 To: family-historian@groups.io Subject: Re: [family-historian] FH7 just ending with no reason at all at all for a GEDCOM input - why no error message?
Hi Phil, A bit more background would help us narrow down the problem. You say it happens on both FH V6 and FH V7. Presumably, it has been a problem for some time or you’ve got both FH versions still installed?
Where does this GEDCOM come from? How do you know it has “islands” and date format errors if it won’t import? How is Ancestry.co.uk involved?
Mike Tate
From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io>
On Behalf Of Phil Warn
Hi all,
This happens to me with both versions 6 and 7.
I know my GEDCOM file contains dozens of “islands” and has date format errors but no error message at all? (thanks mainly to Ancestry.co.uk!)
I use ALL FH programs but this is the worst for this!!!
HELP
TIA
Phil. Warn Now in West Moors
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
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Errors
Victor Markham
I have been working on my FH tree and after just added some
census details I got this message I have V7 Family Historian Exception Report -
Friday 08 Jan 2021 Record Type=Individual. Gedcom
Id=I11117. Record Number=10964. It opened up on my name with no other family connections shown. I checked my brother and father details they too were alone. I have also checked other names it appear they have all become
stand alone names Looks as if all names on my tree have become isolated Victor
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Ancestral Sources
waltonnz
I'm still using FH vs 6 but downloaded AS vs 7. I'm trying to enter a Census record using Method 2 as I have always done. When I enter the individual, I normally see people related to him below plus a button to add more children. This is not happening. Am I doing something wrong or is the new version different to the previous version? Patricia
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Re: FH7 just ending with no reason at all at all for a GEDCOM input - why no error message?
Hi Phil, A bit more background would help us narrow down the problem. You say it happens on both FH V6 and FH V7. Presumably, it has been a problem for some time or you’ve got both FH versions still installed?
Where does this GEDCOM come from? How do you know it has “islands” and date format errors if it won’t import? How is Ancestry.co.uk involved?
Mike Tate
From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Phil Warn
Sent: 07 January 2021 15:19 To: family-historian@groups.io Subject: [family-historian] FH7 just ending with no reason at all at all for a GEDCOM input - why no error message?
Hi all,
This happens to me with both versions 6 and 7.
I know my GEDCOM file contains dozens of “islands” and has date format errors but no error message at all? (thanks mainly to Ancestry.co.uk!)
I use ALL FH programs but this is the worst for this!!!
HELP
TIA
Phil. Warn Now in West Moors
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
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Re: Cloning a source
ianpmitchell@...
Thanks Lorna, That is what I was looking for. It's well-hidden.
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Re: Cloning a source
Yes there is another way to clone a Source record. Open the
Automatic Source Citations panel and select the source. Then use
the cog menu at the right where one of the options is Clone Source
Record.
On 07/01/2021 16:07, ianpmitchell via
groups.io wrote:
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Re: Cloning a source
Jane Taubman
As far as I can see the Clone and Record should work in V7, but I suspect the Author has not had time to check and update it.
You could test it out on the Sample Project before using it in your production data.
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Re: Cloning a source
Ian Looking at the plugin store, it is only v5/6 compatible, so FH7 will disable it when you upgrade. The plugin store shows it was last updated in 2012 Best Wishes Neil.
-- Neil Grantham ------------------- Using FH 7 & AS 7 Researching Grantham, Skuce, Barrow, Birchall.
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Cloning a source
ianpmitchell@...
There used to be a plugin called "Clone any record", but this has been disabled in V7 and the plugin has not been updated at the moment.
Is there another way to clone/duplicate a source record?
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Re: phishing email
There is no need to pay for anti-virus software. AVG and Avast regularly top the independent reviews. McAfee has a reputation for being bloated and slowing down computers.
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FH7 just ending with no reason at all at all for a GEDCOM input - why no error message?
Phil Warn
Hi all,
This happens to me with both versions 6 and 7.
I know my GEDCOM file contains dozens of “islands” and has date format errors but no error message at all? (thanks mainly to Ancestry.co.uk!)
I use ALL FH programs but this is the worst for this!!!
HELP
TIA
Phil. Warn Now in West Moors
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
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Re: phishing email
David Nicoll <david_nicoll@...>
My suggestion – make sure you are running a decent (paid-for one as free ones generally constrained in some way) AntiVirus or Antimalware system and run a full disk scan on your computer.
I use McAfee but there’s quite a range of options.
Good luck!
From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io>
On Behalf Of Jan Howell
Sent: 07 January 2021 11:46 To: family-historian@groups.io Subject: Re: [family-historian] phishing email
Oops! What if you've already clicked it?
Sent from my Galaxy
-------- Original message -------- From: "Ian Thirlwell via groups.io" <i.thirlwell@...> Date: 07/01/2021 11:08 (GMT+00:00) Subject: [family-historian] phishing email
I received a phishing email via the group this morning, supposedly from a Bill Metcalf. The email contains a link which obviously should NOT be clicked. NB I did not click it myself! Ian
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