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Re: New problem with MyHeritage service on Family Historian 7

Fruitbat
 

On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 01:14 PM, <john@...> wrote:

...Fruitbat - if that really is their name...

John,

'Fruitbat' is a nickname that has stayed with me since my teens, thanks to a Monty Python sketch in which John Cleese's character tries to obtain a license for his pet fish.  As the scene plays out it is revealed that he has several pets, including a fruit bat, all called Eric.  It could have been so much worse, I could have ended up being called Eric the halibut.

I have the same username on the FHUG forum, where my real name is automatically inserted at the end of a post, but I keep forgetting that that doesn't happen on here, although I did remember to add it in my first reply way up the page.

Eric


Re: Source > Text from Source > Property Box - Can you fix the Box Sizes?

Adrian Bruce
 



On Tue, Dec 22, 2020, 09:50 colevalleygirl@... <colevalleygirl@...> wrote:

I’d argue it isn’t a waste of time to transcribe the census. It may take some time to puzzle it out, in which case you’ll only want to do it once rather than scowl at the image every time; 


If I were starting out now, with the ability to transcribe in proper tables, I'd possibly come to a different conclusion, but I ran into serious problems trying to legibly transcribe the later, many columned, US censuses and decided to simply attach the scan (to the Source Record, I hasten to add). I take exactly Helen's points though - any dodgy bits of text are individually transcribed by me into the Text From Source for that citation against that fact to avoid multiple reading attempts (note that I'm a Method 1 Splitter) while I hope that my working practices lead me to read every column on a census even without transcription prompting me. 

My usual caveat - for various reasons, some purely historical, I don't use AS.

Adrian


Re: Using Search & Replace causes Text from Source issues with Individual Links

Mike Tate
 

Sorry, to butt in. Robert, please start a new thread for this new topic.

Otherwise, it gets confusing for others to follow what is going on.

BTW: There are simple solutions to your quest by adding the appropriate columns.

I can answer in detail in your new posting.

Mike Tate


Re: Using Search & Replace causes Text from Source issues with Individual Links

Robert Jordan
 

Dear Lorna

 

I also apologise if I confused you so we will bring that matter to an end.

There is one matter I would like your views on.

Many years ago long before FH introduced a facility for research I developed a very simple and effective method of recording research. It involved setting up a new fact “Research” which was pre-birth. So if I came across a document on which I needed to do more research on before entering the information in the record I would add the research fact to the Individual record and enter for example the research required “1871 census” and the full address in the place field together with any note in the note field.

A simple query would then produce a list of all the people who had a research fact. When the research was completed for an individual I would delete the research fact. What I had not realised is that the whole fact was not deleted but the place record was still retained even though it was unlinked.

Recent events have prompted me to look at the place records and I find 100s of unlinked place records. Some of them have map coordinates but most do not. It will take me a long time to go through them deleting those with no map coordinates as it is not possible to list them as no link and no map coordinates and creating a query would not work as there seems to be no column for number of links.

I do not wish to get involved in an argument about whether these unlinked records should be automatically be deleted however if the map coordinates field causes a problem the algorithm could be along the lines

Delete places record IF no of links is 0 AND map coordinates field is empty.

Alternatively for those of us who do not want the clutter of unwanted place records would it be possible to introduce a function in working with place records to delete unlinked records along the lines described above so that Users are at least given a choice and any unlinked place record with map coordinates is retained. It would be possible to add other fields to the algorithm such as media and notes

Or even someone could develop a plug-in!!!

Regards

Robert Jordan


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Re: Location glitch in FH7 Maps

Mike Tate
 

Helen,

As you have found it is important to include the country for all Place names.

Otherwise, how do auto-geocoders know where to look?

 

The Map Window deliberately does not automatically geocode just because you have changed the Place name.

If you had carefully set the Lati/Longitude and then made a small Place name change you would be most upset if it geocoded the Lati/Longitude to somewhere else.

 

Right-click the Place/Event in left-hand pane of Map Window and choose Geocoding > Remove Geocoding and then repeat with Refresh Geocoding

 

Mike Tate

 

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Helen Dignum via groups.io
Sent: 21 December 2020 21:05
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] Location glitch in FH7 Maps

 

When using the new Maps function in FH7, it locates a number of my savided locations in the USA. Eg Chatham, Kent ,  or Holy Trinity Church, Leamington Spa, Warwickshire  locate to the USA.
If I edit the locations in FH, to add England at the end, the Map location does not automatically change, unless I delete the corresponding Latitude and Longitude , at which point it does update the map locator icon.


Re: Source > Text from Source > Property Box - Can you fix the Box Sizes?

David Potter
 

Will do thank you Mike.


Br
David

On Tue, 22 Dec 2020, 09:59 Mike Tate, <post@...> wrote:

No, that size adjustment is not saved as many others are.

Please report that problem to Calico Pie at

http://www.calico-pie.com/osticket/open.php

 

Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of David Potter via groups.io
Sent: 21 December 2020 19:19
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] Source > Text from Source > Property Box - Can you fix the Box Sizes?

 

Hi All

I think the answer will be No, but can you fix the size of the Property box windows such that the Table is the dominant view. I’m constantly having the resize the windows to view all Table entries.

 

Thank you.

 

Kind Regards

 

David Charles Potter

 


Re: Source > Text from Source > Property Box - Can you fix the Box Sizes?

Mike Tate
 

No, that size adjustment is not saved as many others are.

Please report that problem to Calico Pie at

http://www.calico-pie.com/osticket/open.php

 

Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of David Potter via groups.io
Sent: 21 December 2020 19:19
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] Source > Text from Source > Property Box - Can you fix the Box Sizes?

 

Hi All

I think the answer will be No, but can you fix the size of the Property box windows such that the Table is the dominant view. I’m constantly having the resize the windows to view all Table entries.

 

Thank you.

 

Kind Regards

 

David Charles Potter

 


Re: Location glitch in FH7 Maps

David Potter
 

Have you tried a right mouse click on the place and select Locate in Map after you have edited the Place details? You would be surprised how many UK place names are replicated in the US, Australia, Canada etc.


On Tue, 22 Dec 2020, 09:09 Helen Dignum via groups.io, <helen224=pm.me@groups.io> wrote:
When using the new Maps function in FH7, it locates a number of my savided locations in the USA. Eg Chatham, Kent ,  or Holy Trinity Church, Leamington Spa, Warwickshire  locate to the USA.
If I edit the locations in FH, to add England at the end, the Map location does not automatically change, unless I delete the corresponding Latitude and Longitude , at which point it does update the map locator icon.


Re: Source > Text from Source > Property Box - Can you fix the Box Sizes?

David Wilkinson
 


I completely agree, if you want reports, web pages, etc to tell the story you have to transcribe it.

On 22/12/2020 09:50, colevalleygirl@... wrote:

I’d argue it isn’t a waste of time to transcribe the census. It may take some time to puzzle it out, in which case you’ll only want to do it once rather than scowl at the image every time; you might want to publish the transcription in a report or on a website rather than the image (to save space, or because of copyright reasons); and most important of all transcribing the census means you’ve read every word of it and gleaned all the information it contains, rather than just “the bits you’re expecting”.

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Trevor Rix
Sent: 22 December 2020 09:37
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Source > Text from Source > Property Box - Can you fix the Box Sizes?

 

I am wondering -- why are you transcribing the census? If you download the census image and link that image to the individials concerned, all you have to do is Property Box > Media tab > select the census thumbnali > click the green circle to Open in Editor/Player to display the census image full screen. No time wasted in transcribing the census.



Re: Source > Text from Source > Property Box - Can you fix the Box Sizes?

David Potter
 

I couldn't agree more. Thank you Helen very good analogy.

David

On Tue, 22 Dec 2020, 09:50 colevalleygirl@..., <colevalleygirl@...> wrote:

I’d argue it isn’t a waste of time to transcribe the census. It may take some time to puzzle it out, in which case you’ll only want to do it once rather than scowl at the image every time; you might want to publish the transcription in a report or on a website rather than the image (to save space, or because of copyright reasons); and most important of all transcribing the census means you’ve read every word of it and gleaned all the information it contains, rather than just “the bits you’re expecting”.

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Trevor Rix
Sent: 22 December 2020 09:37
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Source > Text from Source > Property Box - Can you fix the Box Sizes?

 

I am wondering -- why are you transcribing the census? If you download the census image and link that image to the individials concerned, all you have to do is Property Box > Media tab > select the census thumbnali > click the green circle to Open in Editor/Player to display the census image full screen. No time wasted in transcribing the census.


Re: Source > Text from Source > Property Box - Can you fix the Box Sizes?

colevalleygirl@colevalleygirl.co.uk
 

I’d argue it isn’t a waste of time to transcribe the census. It may take some time to puzzle it out, in which case you’ll only want to do it once rather than scowl at the image every time; you might want to publish the transcription in a report or on a website rather than the image (to save space, or because of copyright reasons); and most important of all transcribing the census means you’ve read every word of it and gleaned all the information it contains, rather than just “the bits you’re expecting”.

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Trevor Rix
Sent: 22 December 2020 09:37
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Source > Text from Source > Property Box - Can you fix the Box Sizes?

 

I am wondering -- why are you transcribing the census? If you download the census image and link that image to the individials concerned, all you have to do is Property Box > Media tab > select the census thumbnali > click the green circle to Open in Editor/Player to display the census image full screen. No time wasted in transcribing the census.

_._,_._,_


Re: Source > Text from Source > Property Box - Can you fix the Box Sizes?

David Potter
 

Thank you Trevor. I appreciate your reply and have read before this is your preferred method. I want to do it this way to exploit all the new features. Individual Links, Rich Text formatting such as colour highlighting. Etc. Also going about it my way strikes a higher level of analysis in my opinion. I'm also using AS7 so it is not that heavy in terms of data entry.

Br

David

On Tue, 22 Dec 2020, 09:37 Trevor Rix, <trevor@...> wrote:
I am wondering -- why are you transcribing the census? If you download the census image and link that image to the individials concerned, all you have to do is Property Box > Media tab > select the census thumbnali > click the green circle to Open in Editor/Player to display the census image full screen. No time wasted in transcribing the census.


Re: Source > Text from Source > Property Box - Can you fix the Box Sizes?

Trevor Rix
 

I am wondering -- why are you transcribing the census? If you download the census image and link that image to the individials concerned, all you have to do is Property Box > Media tab > select the census thumbnali > click the green circle to Open in Editor/Player to display the census image full screen. No time wasted in transcribing the census.


Location glitch in FH7 Maps

Helen Dignum
 

When using the new Maps function in FH7, it locates a number of my savided locations in the USA. Eg Chatham, Kent ,  or Holy Trinity Church, Leamington Spa, Warwickshire  locate to the USA.
If I edit the locations in FH, to add England at the end, the Map location does not automatically change, unless I delete the corresponding Latitude and Longitude , at which point it does update the map locator icon.


Re: Finding Specific Dates

Helen Dignum
 

There is a Calendar Report function in FH7 which details all the events on the individuals or set of ancestors you choose.
See Publish/Misc Reports/Calendar


Source > Text from Source > Property Box - Can you fix the Box Sizes?

David Potter
 

Hi All

I think the answer will be No, but can you fix the size of the Property box windows such that the Table is the dominant view. I’m constantly having the resize the windows to view all Table entries.

 

Thank you.

 

 

 

Kind Regards

 

David Charles Potter

 


Re: Where's my license code?

stephen.challis@...
 

And what’s wrong with the 19th century? That’s where most of us on this forum spend our time isn’t it?!!

 

 

Stephen Challis

Please reply to Stephen.Challis@...

 

From: family-historian@groups.io [mailto:family-historian@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Tate
Sent: 21 December 2020 15:42
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Where's my license code?

 

You can also find it the 21st century way as explained using the instructions below as posted earlier in this thread.

https://www.family-historian.co.uk/support/lost-licence-key

For FH V7 the activation code is definitely 21st century.


Re: FH7

Adrian Bruce
 


On Mon, Dec 21, 2020, 13:44 Deirdre Leigh <deirdre784@...> wrote:
Of course! I didn’t think of it that way. Will look forward to trying it out now.

What I would advise is that you get an idea of the changes beforehand using things like the User Group Forum and Knowledge Base on  https://www.fhug.org.uk/ - that's what it's there for! Some of it might look a bit hairy, some of it you'll never use, but at least you won't be completely shocked!

Adrian


Re: Finding Specific Dates

Jane Taubman
 

Out of interest another way to do this without using functions on a Fact Query is to simply add a filters on the DAY and MONTH_NUMBER qualifiers for the Date.  
e.g
Add if %FACT.DATE:DAY% = 25
Exclude Unless %FACT.DATE:MONTH_NUMBER% = 12
and of course you could tick the parameter option to get them to prompt you for the Day and Month you want.


Re: Where's my license code?

Mike Tate
 

You can also find it the 21st century way as explained using the instructions below as posted earlier in this thread.

https://www.family-historian.co.uk/support/lost-licence-key

For FH V7 the activation code is definitely 21st century.

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