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Re: Upgrade to version 7

John James
 

Roy,

49.96 is the full price excluding VAT

59.95 is the full price including VAT

41.96 is the price after discount including VAT (30% of or 17.99)

John

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Re: Upgrade to version 7

Victor Markham
 

I had the same result as you did but did not see the discount application and paid £59.95

I did find things a bit confusing. Never had problems upgrading in previous years

On 10/12/2020 4:59 pm, Roy Parsons wrote:
I tried to upgrade and got confused!

The basket shows V7 with a price column value of £49.96. Then the Total below says £59.95
Then below that, following discount application, is £41.96

What's going on?  What are the correct figures please?

I questioned this via the on-line query system a couple of days ago but have received no reply so far.


Re: Upgrade to version 7

Roy Parsons
 

I tried to upgrade and got confused!

The basket shows V7 with a price column value of £49.96. Then the Total below says £59.95
Then below that, following discount application, is £41.96

What's going on?  What are the correct figures please?

I questioned this via the on-line query system a couple of days ago but have received no reply so far.


Re: Media files

David Street <davidstreet@...>
 

Thanks Mike

 

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From: Mike Tate
Sent: 10 December 2020 10:47
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Media files

 

David,

When you export from FH to TNG the Export Gedcom File plugin has the option to ‘flatten’ the exported Media folder and also has options to tell TNG to import certain Media to certain subfolders.

So you can have structured Media folders in FH and flatter Media folders in TNG if you wish.

Yuletide Greetings, Mike Tate

 

 


Re: Media files

David Street <davidstreet@...>
 

Thank you Paul. 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Paul Tanner-Tremaine
Sent: 10 December 2020 10:07
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Media files

 

David, this is the default TNG folder structure of media etc

which is a 'flat'  Media photo folder, with just the three sub folders, so keeping them as FH7 has imported your data should work without issue.
Best Regards, keep well, Merry Christmas
Paul

 


Re: version 6 and version7

colevalleygirl@colevalleygirl.co.uk
 

If you installed FH V7 over your existing FH V6 that custom tab should have been retained.”

 

Sorry Mike but not that straightforward.

 

The help file says:

Important Notes on Restoring Property Box Customizations

If you previously customized the Property Box, when you first look at Family Historian 7, your customizations will appear to have gone.  In fact they haven't gone.  They have just been temporarily suspended, and you can restore them.  They were suspended because version 7 introduces new features - such as greater control over field layout - which you may wish to make use of yourself; and also because some internal data storage changes may not be 100% compatible with previous customizations in all cases.  Consequently, if you do wish to restore your customizations, we recommend that you first look carefully at how some Property Box tabs now look, and decide if there are aspects of these that you wish to retain (such as Note fields that can now extend over a specified number of rows).  We also recommend that after restoration, you carefully check each restored Property Box tab, to make sure that it is working as expected.

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Tate
Sent: 10 December 2020 14:34
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] version 6 and version7

 

Robert, in future please start a new posting for a new topic.

If you installed FH V7 over your existing FH V6 that custom tab should have been retained.

If not, I suspect you downloaded it from the FHUG KB Downloads.

So try https://fhug.org.uk/kb/download/associated-persons-3/

FH V7 has exactly the same custom tab feature for the Property Box as in FH V6.

Yuletide Greetings, Mike Tate

 


Re: version 6 and version7

Mike Tate
 

Robert, in future please start a new posting for a new topic.

If you installed FH V7 over your existing FH V6 that custom tab should have been retained.

If not, I suspect you downloaded it from the FHUG KB Downloads.

So try https://fhug.org.uk/kb/download/associated-persons-3/

FH V7 has exactly the same custom tab feature for the Property Box as in FH V6.

Yuletide Greetings, Mike Tate

 


Re: version 6 and version7

Robert Jordan
 

In previous versions of FH I have had a tab in the property box for "Associated persons" This was very useful when for example finding a grandchild on a census when I did not know who the parents are.

Version 7 seems to have lost that functionality. Does anyone know how to customise the property box to restore that tab as I have found nothing in the "help" documents

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On Thu, 10 Dec 2020 at 13:54, Mike Tate <post@...> wrote:

Why not install FH V7 on both laptops. You are allowed to install on two PC.

Then you can swap GEDCOM.


Re: version 6 and version7

Mike Tate
 

Why not install FH V7 on both laptops. You are allowed to install on two PC.

Then you can swap GEDCOM.


Re: Upgrade to version 7

Adrian Bruce
 



On Thu, Dec 10, 2020, 09:10 liz_graydon via groups.io <liz_graydon=yahoo.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
I am going to wait to upgrade until most/all of the problems are ironed out and a good resource of helpful questions and answers are on the Forum.

Me too. There's one strange omission in the Narrative Reports (the ability to start a sentence with a new-paragraph) that is pretty much a show stopper for me, while I'd quite like to see other people's experiences of working with templated sources before I take the plunge - which I do intend to do.


I'm quite IT literate, I thought,

Thirty year career me, so it doesn't scare me....


 I'm still working through the sources to get them consistent.  Maybe I shouldn't bother if the upgrade to 7 is going to change it all anyway.

So far as I understand it, v7 will give me the ability to be prompted to record source information to a greater level of detail, and more consistently than before, for each type of source (whatever I mean by that). For instance, a source type that I've just started using needs 2 dates recording. If I understand correctly, I will be able to set up a specific template for these sources that will enable me to be prompted to record both dates. But it can be my decision to make whether to create my own template, or to use one of the off the shelf styles and have to remember to record both dates. 

I'm writing this to in effect say that I think that you're being sensible to think first. As for whether you should carry on trying to make your stuff consistent, I've no certainty. I don't know myself! One area that you might profitably look at - and this is a bit of a guess - is whether you can easily tell from your current source records, whether your source was the real thing, an image of it, a transcript, a summary or an index. Because those might be important in setting up the new data. Hmm. I think I've just given myself a job, never mind you! 

As I said, I'm just trying to help people to think. (Which helps me as well!)

Adrian


Re: version 6 and version7

Lorna Craig
 

When you first load a V6 project into V7 the data is converted to a new structure.  All your V6 data is safely retained, but you can't then open the same file in V6 again because the data would become corrupted.  So the answer to the 'vice versa' part of your question is NO, I'm afraid.

Lorna

On 10/12/2020 13:33, Sheila Beer wrote:
Hi guys

I'm going to purchase a new laptop and my intention is to leave version 6 on my current laptop (so that someone else in the household can use it) and purchase version 7 for the new laptop.

I always make a GEDCOM backup on an external hard drive and a USB stick.   

My question is:-  will I be able to use the GEDCOM file, which I have stored on the external hard drive, on both laptops.      I.E. will a GEDCOM made and/or updated by version 6 work well, and still show all the information that has been input, on version 7 AND vice versa?



Re: version 6 and version7

colevalleygirl@colevalleygirl.co.uk
 

No – FH6 Gedcom files are different to FH7 ones – swapping the same file between the two versions will be a recipe for disaster.

 

I'm going to purchase a new laptop and my intention is to leave version 6 on my current laptop (so that someone else in the household can use it) and purchase version 7 for the new laptop.”

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Sheila Beer
Sent: 10 December 2020 13:34
To: family historian io <family-historian@groups.io>
Subject: [family-historian] version 6 and version7

 

Hi guys

 

I'm going to purchase a new laptop and my intention is to leave version 6 on my current laptop (so that someone else in the household can use it) and purchase version 7 for the new laptop.

 

I always make a GEDCOM backup on an external hard drive and a USB stick.   

 

My question is:-  will I be able to use the GEDCOM file, which I have stored on the external hard drive, on both laptops.      I.E. will a GEDCOM made and/or updated by version 6 work well, and still show all the information that has been input, on version 7 AND vice versa?

 

 

Thanks for your help

 

Sheila Beer


version 6 and version7

Sheila Beer
 

Hi guys

I'm going to purchase a new laptop and my intention is to leave version 6 on my current laptop (so that someone else in the household can use it) and purchase version 7 for the new laptop.

I always make a GEDCOM backup on an external hard drive and a USB stick.   

My question is:-  will I be able to use the GEDCOM file, which I have stored on the external hard drive, on both laptops.      I.E. will a GEDCOM made and/or updated by version 6 work well, and still show all the information that has been input, on version 7 AND vice versa?


Thanks for your help

Sheila Beer


Re: Problem with Queries

dave@...
 

Thanks Mike, ticket created.

Dave Simpson


Re: Upgrade to version 7

colevalleygirl@colevalleygirl.co.uk
 

Re the new Knowledge Base, we haven’t got all the FH7 content in yet – volunteers to help are more than welcome!

 

Helen

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Lorna Craig via groups.io
Sent: 10 December 2020 11:46
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Upgrade to version 7

 

For those who have been asking about a new manual or a 'How-to' book (which may or may not be produced one day, I have no idea) can I suggest that you make full use of the other resources which are available:

1.  For an overview of all the new features of V7 read "What's New in Version 7" on the FH website:  https://www.family-historian.co.uk/whats-new-in-7   This introduces all the key new features one at a time, with some illustrations.  There is a lot to take in with the new version, so just concentrate on one feature at a time.

2.  When you are using V7, always look for a Help button in whatever window or small dialogue box you have open.  That will take you to the relevant pages in the FH Help files which explain in greater detail what you can do in the current context.  If there are some you need to refer to frequently, print them out.

3.  Do make use of the new-look Knowledge Base at FHUG:  https://fhug.org.uk/kb/  This has been completely re-written to incorporate advice about all the features of V7 as well as continuing to give advice on earlier versions of FH.  It is much easier to navigate than the old Knowledge Base.   Start by clicking on the blue link How to Use the Knowledge Base so that you can find your way round.  Huge thanks are due to Helen (ColeValleyGirl) and other volunteers who have been working on it tirelessly for months behind the scenes!

Lorna


Re: Upgrade to version 7

Lorna Craig
 

For those who have been asking about a new manual or a 'How-to' book (which may or may not be produced one day, I have no idea) can I suggest that you make full use of the other resources which are available:

1.  For an overview of all the new features of V7 read "What's New in Version 7" on the FH website:  https://www.family-historian.co.uk/whats-new-in-7   This introduces all the key new features one at a time, with some illustrations.  There is a lot to take in with the new version, so just concentrate on one feature at a time.

2.  When you are using V7, always look for a Help button in whatever window or small dialogue box you have open.  That will take you to the relevant pages in the FH Help files which explain in greater detail what you can do in the current context.  If there are some you need to refer to frequently, print them out.

3.  Do make use of the new-look Knowledge Base at FHUG:  https://fhug.org.uk/kb/  This has been completely re-written to incorporate advice about all the features of V7 as well as continuing to give advice on earlier versions of FH.  It is much easier to navigate than the old Knowledge Base.   Start by clicking on the blue link How to Use the Knowledge Base so that you can find your way round.  Huge thanks are due to Helen (ColeValleyGirl) and other volunteers who have been working on it tirelessly for months behind the scenes!

Lorna

On 09/12/2020 22:00, Nicola Byrnes wrote:
Yes please to a how-to book!

Nicola

On 9 Dec 2020, at 21:51, Marion Woolgar via groups.io <listmail008@...> wrote:


Will Calico Pie be publishing a manual to go with Version 7?  I certainly
hope so - and very, very soon!


Re: Media files

Mike Tate
 

David,

When you export from FH to TNG the Export Gedcom File plugin has the option to ‘flatten’ the exported Media folder and also has options to tell TNG to import certain Media to certain subfolders.

So you can have structured Media folders in FH and flatter Media folders in TNG if you wish.

Yuletide Greetings, Mike Tate

 


Re: Version 7 problem

David Potter
 

Hi Colin. I have the same problem. Are you using a second monitor? That's where I see the problem.

David

On Thu, 10 Dec 2020, 07:14 Colin_McCullough, <madmac@...> wrote:
Using Version 7 today. Seemed good but alas ?? Using tabs on individual in property Box display is not working right ??? When you click on media tab what comes up on screen is all 4 tabs data is jumbled and if you want to go back to main tab again it does not happen ??? Can anyone help
Colin in NZ
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Re: Version 7 problem

Mike Tate
 

Colin,

I think such problems should be reported directly to Calico Pie.

http://www.calico-pie.com/osticket/open.php

Raise a problem ticket and include your screenshots.

Yuletide Greetings, Mike Tate


Re: Problem with Queries

Mike Tate
 

Dave,

I suggest you report such problems directly to Calico Pie.

http://www.calico-pie.com/osticket/open.php

Include that screenshot with the report.

Yuletide Greetings, Mike Tate

 

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