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Version 7 problem

Colin_McCullough
 

Using Version 7 today. Seemed good but alas ?? Using tabs on individual in property Box display is not working right ??? When you click on media tab what comes up on screen is all 4 tabs data is jumbled and if you want to go back to main tab again it does not happen ??? Can anyone help
Colin in NZ
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Re: We're having email problems on the Family Historian website!

stephen.challis@...
 

Reference to discounts is at

https://store.family-historian.co.uk/product/family-historian-7-upgrade/

although I shall be waiting until it’s bedded in before I upgrade – I am in no rush!

 

Seasons greetings.

 

Stephen Challis

Please reply to Stephen.Challis@...

 

From: family-historian@groups.io [mailto:family-historian@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Tate
Sent: 09 December 2020 23:46
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] We're having email problems on the Family Historian website!

 

If you have V5 or V6 then there should be a discount available but I think you have to hunt for it and supply your licence key.

 

There are some issues with the MyHeritage interface (nor English Heritage) for the internal Web Search page as described in the FH V7 documentation (somewhere).

So it currently defaults to the external browser mode.

 

Mike Tate

 


Re: We're having email problems on the Family Historian website!

Mike Tate
 

If you have V5 or V6 then there should be a discount available but I think you have to hunt for it and supply your licence key.

 

There are some issues with the MyHeritage interface (nor English Heritage) for the internal Web Search page as described in the FH V7 documentation (somewhere).

So it currently defaults to the external browser mode.

 

Mike Tate

 


Re: Upgrade to version 7

Mike Tate
 

I'm glad you are not daft. You'd be surprised at what I sometimes get asked.

Click the Edit Source Citation button (between Add Citation and Copy Citation buttons).
That shows both Source record and Citation details together in one multi-tab dialogue.

Use Help > Search Help... and enter Source Templates then click List Topics.
The top entry 'Sources and Source Templates' explains it all.

Mike Tate


Re: Upgrade to version 7

Marion Woolgar
 

Dear Mike,

Yes, all my custom settings are backed-up. I also have V6, including custom
settings, running on a 2nd laptop, with all my project data as per my
Tuesday night back-up. I may be getting on a bit, but I'm not daft - yet!

My major concern is the Sources & Citation boxes. Now all that I can see is
the Source title and nothing else except a load of white space. I used to
be able to see the date that the data was entered, the reference where I got
it from, the source text and a notes box - all that I needed to know. What
on earth was wrong with them the way that they were?

There is also mention of "Source templates" without any explanation of what
these are, or how you create them, or how they differ from "generic
citations".

Best wishes,

Marion Woolgar
Bognor Regis, West Sussex


Re: We're having email problems on the Family Historian website!

Victor Markham
 

I omitted to mention that my upgrade was for the full price unlike previous upgrades when I was given a discount.

I have been playing with the new verson just a little bit. The images I had before are still in the same place

Prompting the hints to on names takes now takes you to the Find My Past or English Hertitage web site

Checking for individuals now opens to another window like it did with FFP not like it used to in V6

Victor


On 09/12/2020 7:39 pm, Mike Tate wrote:

My understanding is that unlike earlier versions you don’t need to keep Emails, Activation keys, Downloaded installation files, etc. All you need is your CP Account username & password.

They say it should do away with lost Emails & Downloads that have bedevilled the past.

Hang the CD as a decoration on your Christmas Tree!

Yuletide Greetings, Mike Tate

 


Re: Upgrade to version 7

Mike Tate
 

As with each major upgrade of FH not only is the Project data changed but also the customisations are affected too! So you were wise
to keep your Project data separate, but did you backup your customisations?
The 'Backup and Restore Family Historian Settings' plugin performs that backup.
Without that backup, reverting FH V6 may be as difficult as sticking with FH V7.
You will have to provide very detailed descriptions of the problems you are facing with your customisations in order for others to
help you resolve them, or you could attach copies of the scripts.
But that is far easier in the FHUG Forums than via these Emails.
https://www.fhug.org.uk/forum/

Yuletide Greetings, Mike Tate


Re: Hints/tips when moving to Family Historian 7 (and Ancestral Sources 7)

Mike Tate
 

That will happen from time to time with any Plugins and always did in the old Plugin Store as is happening now in the new Plugin Store when they are being approved by Calico Pie for publishing.

 

I have this afternoon submitted the Export Gedcom File plugin for approval.

It should be approved at the latest sometime tomorrow I expect.

 

This will continue to happen for each Plugin that is updated for use with FH V7, and if an unexpected problem is discovered with a Plugin associated with new features then it will happen again.

Just be patient when Plugins go missing and they should return soon.

All the plugin authors are working hard to cope the changes.

 

Yuletide Greetings, Mike Tate

 

_,_


Re: Upgrade to version 7

Derek Kain
 

Hello Marion,
I sympathise with you as I had the same dilemma and going by previous upgrades I eventually decided to go along with what Calico have set version 7 to.
Although this may entail some editing (eventually) of old sources/citations etc.
Will take some getting used to version 7. Having problems already.
Derek

On Wed, 9 Dec 2020 at 21:51, Marion Woolgar via groups.io <listmail008=btinternet.com@groups.io> wrote:
I downloaded Version 7 this morning and I have been using it today on a
duplicate copy of my project file and I am very glad that I did it that way!
I have been using Family Historian since Version 1 and each successive major
upgrade has introduced changes and the move to Version 6 was something of a
major challenge that took me some time to work through.  However, the
Version 7 upgrade has left me bewildered by the changes that have been made.
I'm not an IT professional or specialist, I'm just an amateur family
historian of somewhat advancing years. 

Most of my customizations to the Record Window, Property Box and Source Box
have disappeared.  I have read the "Notes on Upgrading to Version 7" about
restoring Property Box customizations and I was working my way through them
until I reached items marked 1, 2, & 3 which, after telling me what could be
done, then strongly recommended that I don't do it because settings will be
lost somewhere else.  I am now completely bemused and confused. 

Will Calico Pie be publishing a manual to go with Version 7?  I certainly
hope so - and very, very soon! 

I have almost 30,000 entries in my main, ONS, Project alone and I have spent
upwards of 18 years entering all my previously held manual records into
Family Historian and I can't risk not being able to find my data now, let
alone the possibility losing track of it completely.  I think that I am
going to have to uninstall Version 7 and reinstall Version 6.  At least then
I will be able to get on with entering my data until such time as I can get
my head around this.  I just hope that I haven't wasted my pension on this
upgrade.

Best wishes,

Marion Woolgar
Bognor Regis, West Sussex










Re: Upgrade to version 7

Nicola Byrnes
 

Yes please to a how-to book!

Nicola

On 9 Dec 2020, at 21:51, Marion Woolgar via groups.io <listmail008=btinternet.com@groups.io> wrote:

I downloaded Version 7 this morning and I have been using it today on a
duplicate copy of my project file and I am very glad that I did it that way!
I have been using Family Historian since Version 1 and each successive major
upgrade has introduced changes and the move to Version 6 was something of a
major challenge that took me some time to work through. However, the
Version 7 upgrade has left me bewildered by the changes that have been made.
I'm not an IT professional or specialist, I'm just an amateur family
historian of somewhat advancing years.

Most of my customizations to the Record Window, Property Box and Source Box
have disappeared. I have read the "Notes on Upgrading to Version 7" about
restoring Property Box customizations and I was working my way through them
until I reached items marked 1, 2, & 3 which, after telling me what could be
done, then strongly recommended that I don't do it because settings will be
lost somewhere else. I am now completely bemused and confused.

Will Calico Pie be publishing a manual to go with Version 7? I certainly
hope so - and very, very soon!

I have almost 30,000 entries in my main, ONS, Project alone and I have spent
upwards of 18 years entering all my previously held manual records into
Family Historian and I can't risk not being able to find my data now, let
alone the possibility losing track of it completely. I think that I am
going to have to uninstall Version 7 and reinstall Version 6. At least then
I will be able to get on with entering my data until such time as I can get
my head around this. I just hope that I haven't wasted my pension on this
upgrade.

Best wishes,

Marion Woolgar
Bognor Regis, West Sussex









Re: Add text from source to citation FH7

Derek Kain
 

Hello Lorna,
It appears it is associated with the Auto-text.
Will look further tomorrow.
Derek

On Wed, 9 Dec 2020 at 21:37, Derek Kain via groups.io <genealogist15=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hello Lorna,
Thank you for the reply and I have added the data to the text box.
What I was concerned with was the 'Civil Registration Certificate' Source Template has census years if you click on the tab Text from Source mid-way down click on 'Add Text from Source', then click on either 'Add to Source Record' or 'Add to Prepared Citation' a list of options appear. Click on UK you get the list of census years. What have they got to do with births, deaths and marriages.
Derek

On Wed, 9 Dec 2020 at 19:09, Lorna Craig via groups.io <l.m.craig=ntlworld.com@groups.io> wrote:
The list of choices includes a number of auto-text templates which have
already been written and are supplied with FH.   As you have seen, most
of these are for more complex types of source text.  For a simple GRO
index reference select <empty text> and enter the reference as
unstructured text.

You can if you wish use this option for all types of source text. The
templates are intended as an aid to consistent data entry if you wish to
use them.  You can also create your own auto-text templates if you prefer.

On 09/12/2020 16:54, Derek Kain wrote:
> Hello readers,
> I have created a citation England and Wales Death Registration Index
> by cloning from BDM Registration index.
> When I get to add text from source there are two choices - 'Add to
> source Record' or 'Add to Citation'.
> Both have a arrow. Clicking on that arrow I get a list of choices.
> Clicking on UK I get a list of census years.
> How do I correct this to reflect the correct choices.
> Derek






Upgrade to version 7

Marion Woolgar
 

I downloaded Version 7 this morning and I have been using it today on a
duplicate copy of my project file and I am very glad that I did it that way!
I have been using Family Historian since Version 1 and each successive major
upgrade has introduced changes and the move to Version 6 was something of a
major challenge that took me some time to work through. However, the
Version 7 upgrade has left me bewildered by the changes that have been made.
I'm not an IT professional or specialist, I'm just an amateur family
historian of somewhat advancing years.

Most of my customizations to the Record Window, Property Box and Source Box
have disappeared. I have read the "Notes on Upgrading to Version 7" about
restoring Property Box customizations and I was working my way through them
until I reached items marked 1, 2, & 3 which, after telling me what could be
done, then strongly recommended that I don't do it because settings will be
lost somewhere else. I am now completely bemused and confused.

Will Calico Pie be publishing a manual to go with Version 7? I certainly
hope so - and very, very soon!

I have almost 30,000 entries in my main, ONS, Project alone and I have spent
upwards of 18 years entering all my previously held manual records into
Family Historian and I can't risk not being able to find my data now, let
alone the possibility losing track of it completely. I think that I am
going to have to uninstall Version 7 and reinstall Version 6. At least then
I will be able to get on with entering my data until such time as I can get
my head around this. I just hope that I haven't wasted my pension on this
upgrade.

Best wishes,

Marion Woolgar
Bognor Regis, West Sussex


Re: Hints/tips when moving to Family Historian 7 (and Ancestral Sources 7)

Paul Terrill
 

Hi Kathy,

Sorry, AS = Ancestral Sources. An excellent accompanying program written by Nick Walker, that allows you to do 'data entry' of certificates and census information. He offers it for free with requests for voluntary donations, which I have done due to how much I use it.

Up until recently we were on version 5.2.0. We now have a version 7. Presumably the versioning number is to match Family Historian 7.

Paul

 


Re: Add text from source to citation FH7

Derek Kain
 

Hello Lorna,
Thank you for the reply and I have added the data to the text box.
What I was concerned with was the 'Civil Registration Certificate' Source Template has census years if you click on the tab Text from Source mid-way down click on 'Add Text from Source', then click on either 'Add to Source Record' or 'Add to Prepared Citation' a list of options appear. Click on UK you get the list of census years. What have they got to do with births, deaths and marriages.
Derek

On Wed, 9 Dec 2020 at 19:09, Lorna Craig via groups.io <l.m.craig=ntlworld.com@groups.io> wrote:
The list of choices includes a number of auto-text templates which have
already been written and are supplied with FH.   As you have seen, most
of these are for more complex types of source text.  For a simple GRO
index reference select <empty text> and enter the reference as
unstructured text.

You can if you wish use this option for all types of source text. The
templates are intended as an aid to consistent data entry if you wish to
use them.  You can also create your own auto-text templates if you prefer.

On 09/12/2020 16:54, Derek Kain wrote:
> Hello readers,
> I have created a citation England and Wales Death Registration Index
> by cloning from BDM Registration index.
> When I get to add text from source there are two choices - 'Add to
> source Record' or 'Add to Citation'.
> Both have a arrow. Clicking on that arrow I get a list of choices.
> Clicking on UK I get a list of census years.
> How do I correct this to reflect the correct choices.
> Derek






Re: Media files

davidstreet@...
 

Thank you Mike and Paul. I’ve found that Help section and can work through it.

As I am changing from Legacy to FH, and would like to use TNG for my web presence is there an advantage in staying with the single media system? Paul, you mention that you have to ‘tweak’ the MySQL to get TNG to recognise your multi-folder system. Does TNG prefer a single media folder – if so, I might as well stay with it.  Realise this is straying off-topic perhaps, but it would greatly help me in setting up FH

 

Regards

David

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Mike Tate
Sent: 09 December 2020 19:24
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Media files

 

Hi David,

I forget to refer you to the Help page in FH that describes the process.

In the FH Help use Search for "Upgrading from Version 3 or Earlier" including the quotes.

It also applies to users importing from other products.

That has a section heading starting “I have my own system for organising media files…” which explains the process.

 

BTW: Your FHUG Forum posting has not appeared yet. Are you sure you submitted it?

 

Yuletide Greetings, Mike Tate

 


Re: Hints/tips when moving to Family Historian 7 (and Ancestral Sources 7)

Teresa Goatham
 

Just been looking at what plugins I have in 6 and whether they have been updated for 7. Generally I can find the info.

However, I have 'Export Gedcom File 3.9' - this just isn't showing up at all in the plugin store when I search for it. But it's the one most important to me! Please could you advise?

Thanks,
Teresa

On 09/12/2020 12:05, Mike Tate wrote:

It is advisable to review all the new features of FH V7 because once you have upgraded there will be no going back to FH V6 as the GEDCOM and customisation settings are radically changed.

 

Some customisations may not be fully operational in FH V7 and will need fixing.

Plugins from FH V6 will not run in FH V7 without some adjustments.

There is a growing wealth of advice in the new FHUG Knowledge Base.

https://fhug.org.uk/kb/

 

Regards, Mike Tate

 



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Re: We're having email problems on the Family Historian website!

Ian Thirlwell
 

I got round the problem, eventually, by switching to Edge browser, which gave me the option of downloading regardless. From messages it seems the objection was to the site, family-historian-downloads.s3.amazonaws.com, from which the download was coming, rather than the FH 7 installer itself.
Regards,
Ian
 

From: Mike Tate
Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2020 12:05 PM
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] We're having email problems on the Family Historian website!
 

It is quite common for low-usage new programs to be considered a virus threat.

There is often a way round that but the option is sometimes hidden in the small print.

Alternatively, temporarily disable the anti-virus package or add an exception for FH.exe.

That and related advice is available in the FHUG Knowledge Base.

Regards, Mike Tate


Re: We're having email problems on the Family Historian website!

Mike Tate
 

My understanding is that unlike earlier versions you don’t need to keep Emails, Activation keys, Downloaded installation files, etc. All you need is your CP Account username & password.

They say it should do away with lost Emails & Downloads that have bedevilled the past.

Hang the CD as a decoration on your Christmas Tree!

Yuletide Greetings, Mike Tate

 


Re: We're having email problems on the Family Historian website!

Victor Markham
 

Thanks Mike

I have just upgraded. I couldn't recall my password and CP emailed a temp password and I have reset my log in details.

Now just have to read the Help imformation which I have printed out to read (7 pages). Will use the file links provided once I have read the print out.

Prhaps I should print out the email with the activation code and file it

I must have started on V3 as I have found the CD. Should I keep it as a souvenir or throw it way that is what I have to decide

Victor

On 08/12/2020 10:44 pm, Mike Tate wrote:

Victor,

I have also been a user since FH V2, and upgraded every version as a download from Calico Pie, but that does not need an account.

Accounts a relatively new, and are not numerical, so like me, you will probably need to create one.

Mike Tate

 


Re: Media files

Mike Tate
 

Hi David,

I forget to refer you to the Help page in FH that describes the process.

In the FH Help use Search for "Upgrading from Version 3 or Earlier" including the quotes.

It also applies to users importing from other products.

That has a section heading starting “I have my own system for organising media files…” which explains the process.

 

BTW: Your FHUG Forum posting has not appeared yet. Are you sure you submitted it?

 

Yuletide Greetings, Mike Tate

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