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Sudden closures

Jean Kennett
 

Why does my Family Historian keep suddenly closing down without warning when I’m in the middle of something?


Re: Missing parents in the Focus Window

Tony Leeming
 

Thanks,

Tony.

On 04/03/2020 11:49, Mike Tate wrote:
As time goes on you may find other anomalies due to the imperfect File Merge.
Yes, select both Sources and use Edit > Merge/Compare Records to amalgamate Citations.
In general, any types of record (Notes, Sources, Media, Places, etc) with zero Links/Citations can be deleted, unless you have a particular purpose to keep them.
Regards, Mike Tate

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From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Tony Leeming
Sent: 04 March 2020 10:17
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Missing parents in the Focus Window

Hello Mike,

Yes, you are right. The parent problem is now corrected - thanks.

I have also looked at sources and there are some duplicates which I assume I should merge.

I also have a few sources with zero citations, should these be deleted?

Thanks again,

Tony.

On 03/03/2020 17:03, Mike Tate wrote:
Hi Tony,
I suspect you have added the Father as a Child to another Family record that has no Parents.
Yes, that probably arose with the Merge, possibly because you did not review the Families tab closely enough.
It is important when using Merge to check every tab carefully and not just the Individuals tab.
You may find that you have other issues such as duplicated Source records or Media records.

In the Property Box of the Father open the All tab and there should be two Parents family entries.
One will say ...of (parents not known) so expand that entry and check that it is empty.
If so then select that Parents family name and press the Delete key to remove it.

Regards, Mike Tate

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From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On
Behalf Of Tony Leeming
Sent: 03 March 2020 16:10
To: Family Historian Users Group <family-historian@groups.io>
Subject: [family-historian] Missing parents in the Focus Window

Hello all,

Something has happened that I do not understand and help would be appreciated.

In the Focus Window with the spouses and children tab, for one of my people I get a blank in the two parent boxes above. I thought I must have unlinked him from the rest of the tree but I do not think that is so and a diagram looks right.

I then spotted next to the father's box up and down arrows. Pressing these brings back the parents or removes them. This must surely be due to something I have done but what? Can someone tell me please what it is and how to put it right. I did do a merge at one point at this generation link but everything seemed well until now.

Thanks in anticipation,

Tony Leeming.


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Re: Missing parents in the Focus Window

Mike Tate
 

As time goes on you may find other anomalies due to the imperfect File Merge.
Yes, select both Sources and use Edit > Merge/Compare Records to amalgamate Citations.
In general, any types of record (Notes, Sources, Media, Places, etc) with zero Links/Citations can be deleted, unless you have a particular purpose to keep them.
Regards, Mike Tate

-----Original Message-----
From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Tony Leeming
Sent: 04 March 2020 10:17
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Missing parents in the Focus Window

Hello Mike,

Yes, you are right. The parent problem is now corrected - thanks.

I have also looked at sources and there are some duplicates which I assume I should merge.

I also have a few sources with zero citations, should these be deleted?

Thanks again,

Tony.

On 03/03/2020 17:03, Mike Tate wrote:
Hi Tony,
I suspect you have added the Father as a Child to another Family record that has no Parents.
Yes, that probably arose with the Merge, possibly because you did not review the Families tab closely enough.
It is important when using Merge to check every tab carefully and not just the Individuals tab.
You may find that you have other issues such as duplicated Source records or Media records.

In the Property Box of the Father open the All tab and there should be two Parents family entries.
One will say ...of (parents not known) so expand that entry and check that it is empty.
If so then select that Parents family name and press the Delete key to remove it.

Regards, Mike Tate

-----Original Message-----
From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On
Behalf Of Tony Leeming
Sent: 03 March 2020 16:10
To: Family Historian Users Group <family-historian@groups.io>
Subject: [family-historian] Missing parents in the Focus Window

Hello all,

Something has happened that I do not understand and help would be appreciated.

In the Focus Window with the spouses and children tab, for one of my people I get a blank in the two parent boxes above. I thought I must have unlinked him from the rest of the tree but I do not think that is so and a diagram looks right.

I then spotted next to the father's box up and down arrows. Pressing these brings back the parents or removes them. This must surely be due to something I have done but what? Can someone tell me please what it is and how to put it right. I did do a merge at one point at this generation link but everything seemed well until now.

Thanks in anticipation,

Tony Leeming.


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Re: Census Flags on Diagrams (Box Conditions) for missing entries

John James
 

Thanks Mike (and apologies for the delayed reply).  Gives me some further food for thought.


Re: Missing parents in the Focus Window

Tony Leeming
 

Hello Mike,

Yes, you are right. The parent problem is now corrected - thanks.

I have also looked at sources and there are some duplicates which I assume I should merge.

I also have a few sources with zero citations, should these be deleted?

Thanks again,

Tony.

On 03/03/2020 17:03, Mike Tate wrote:
Hi Tony,
I suspect you have added the Father as a Child to another Family record that has no Parents.
Yes, that probably arose with the Merge, possibly because you did not review the Families tab closely enough.
It is important when using Merge to check every tab carefully and not just the Individuals tab.
You may find that you have other issues such as duplicated Source records or Media records.

In the Property Box of the Father open the All tab and there should be two Parents family entries.
One will say ...of (parents not known) so expand that entry and check that it is empty.
If so then select that Parents family name and press the Delete key to remove it.

Regards, Mike Tate

-----Original Message-----
From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Tony Leeming
Sent: 03 March 2020 16:10
To: Family Historian Users Group <family-historian@groups.io>
Subject: [family-historian] Missing parents in the Focus Window

Hello all,

Something has happened that I do not understand and help would be appreciated.

In the Focus Window with the spouses and children tab, for one of my people I get a blank in the two parent boxes above. I thought I must have unlinked him from the rest of the tree but I do not think that is so and a diagram looks right.

I then spotted next to the father's box up and down arrows. Pressing these brings back the parents or removes them. This must surely be due to something I have done but what? Can someone tell me please what it is and how to put it right. I did do a merge at one point at this generation link but everything seemed well until now.

Thanks in anticipation,

Tony Leeming.


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Re: Missing parents in the Focus Window

Mike Tate
 

Hi Tony,
I suspect you have added the Father as a Child to another Family record that has no Parents.
Yes, that probably arose with the Merge, possibly because you did not review the Families tab closely enough.
It is important when using Merge to check every tab carefully and not just the Individuals tab.
You may find that you have other issues such as duplicated Source records or Media records.

In the Property Box of the Father open the All tab and there should be two Parents family entries.
One will say ...of (parents not known) so expand that entry and check that it is empty.
If so then select that Parents family name and press the Delete key to remove it.

Regards, Mike Tate

-----Original Message-----
From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Tony Leeming
Sent: 03 March 2020 16:10
To: Family Historian Users Group <family-historian@groups.io>
Subject: [family-historian] Missing parents in the Focus Window

Hello all,

Something has happened that I do not understand and help would be appreciated.

In the Focus Window with the spouses and children tab, for one of my people I get a blank in the two parent boxes above. I thought I must have unlinked him from the rest of the tree but I do not think that is so and a diagram looks right.

I then spotted next to the father's box up and down arrows. Pressing these brings back the parents or removes them. This must surely be due to something I have done but what? Can someone tell me please what it is and how to put it right. I did do a merge at one point at this generation link but everything seemed well until now.

Thanks in anticipation,

Tony Leeming.


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Missing parents in the Focus Window

Tony Leeming
 

Hello all,

Something has happened that I do not understand and help would be appreciated.

In the Focus Window with the spouses and children tab, for one of my people I get a blank in the two parent boxes above. I thought I must have unlinked him from the rest of the tree but I do not think that is so and a diagram looks right.

I then spotted next to the father's box up and down arrows. Pressing these brings back the parents or removes them. This must surely be due to something I have done but what? Can someone tell me please what it is and how to put it right. I did do a merge at one point at this generation link but everything seemed well until now.

Thanks in anticipation,

Tony Leeming.


Re: Media files

kiwipete
 

thanks for that info Mike, I am going try a merge and see how I go, have backups, and backups of my backups


Re: Media files

Mike Tate
 

If you decide to merge Projects then there is worthwhile advice in the FHUG Knowledge Base.

That is based on the past experience of other users and highlights some common pitfalls.

See https://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=glossary:merge_compare_files

 

Regards, Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of kiwipete
Sent: 26 February 2020 08:00
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Media files

 

merging projects sounds a bit scare y, but your more than right, I have maybe 3 or 4 projects and that maybe the way to go......


Re: Media files

kiwipete
 

merging projects sounds a bit scare y, but your more than right, I have maybe 3 or 4 projects and that maybe the way to go......


Re: Media files

Jane Taubman
 


On Wed, 26 Feb 2020 at 07:09, kiwipete <peter@...> wrote:
How do you share media files across different projects. Is the only way is having the same media files within each project
_

You can ask FH not to copy in the media and leave it pointing at the folder for the other project, or take the hit for the duplication.  

My suggestion would be though if your media needs to be in two projects it suggests you have the same people in more than one Project so you might want to consider merging the Projects.


 
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Media files

kiwipete
 

How do you share media files across different projects. Is the only way is having the same media files within each project


Re: Census Flags on Diagrams (Box Conditions) for missing entries

Ron Unknown
 

I believe miketate has a query for the probably in a given census. I do not know what a Box Condition is.


From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> on behalf of gladtobegrey@... <gladtobegrey@...>
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2020 4:17 AM
To: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io>
Subject: [family-historian] Census Flags on Diagrams (Box Conditions) for missing entries
 
I'm returning to FH after a long hiatus.  I used to set Flags on Individuals to indicate the presence (or absence) of Census entries.  I know that Box Conditions can be set to show icons where a Census (or more accurately in my case, a Census with a Source Record and associated Media image) can be used instead to indicate the presence of one of these facts by showing an icon.

However, I also used to set Flags to indicate the absence of a fact (e.g. The absence of a Census entry for an Individual in a given year). That helped prevent me going back over research already exhausted.  So, for example, an Individual might have Flags Census71, CensNot81, Census91, CensNot01 ... 

I also had flags to indicate where an Individual was 'probably' in a given Census, but there was some uncertainty as to the identification.

Can anyone suggest a way of using Box Conditions to replicate this?  The only way I can think of is to set up Custom Events to mirror the 'CensNotxx' or 'CensProbxx' Flags, and use Box Conditions on these.

Nothing on the FHUG Downloads and Links ~ Fact Sets page seems to cover it.


Re: Census Flags on Diagrams (Box Conditions) for missing entries

Mike Tate
 

You could, of course, continue using 'CensNotxx' or 'CensProbxx' Flags.

 

In the 'CensProbxx' cases I assume you have a Census Event with a Source Citation, but its credibility is in doubt.

So perhaps set the Citation Assessment to Questionable and then the Box Condition can test for that.

 

The 'CensNotxx' cases are more difficult as it is not simply that a Census Event is missing but that your research has drawn a blank.

You could record a Census Event without a Source Citation and the Box Condition can test for that.

The Sentence Template for that specific Event would need to change, perhaps to {blank} to inhibit the sentence altogether.

 

By using a standard Census Event in both those cases also excludes them from the ‘Lookup Missing Census Facts’ Plugin.

 

Alternatives include having labelled Notes to indicate Prob and Not cases, or as you suggested custom facts.

 

Regards, Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of gladtobegrey@...
Sent: 25 February 2020 10:18
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] Census Flags on Diagrams (Box Conditions) for missing entries

 

I'm returning to FH after a long hiatus.  I used to set Flags on Individuals to indicate the presence (or absence) of Census entries.  I know that Box Conditions can be set to show icons where a Census (or more accurately in my case, a Census with a Source Record and associated Media image) can be used instead to indicate the presence of one of these facts by showing an icon.

However, I also used to set Flags to indicate the absence of a fact (e.g. The absence of a Census entry for an Individual in a given year). That helped prevent me going back over research already exhausted.  So, for example, an Individual might have Flags Census71, CensNot81, Census91, CensNot01 ... 

I also had flags to indicate where an Individual was 'probably' in a given Census, but there was some uncertainty as to the identification.

Can anyone suggest a way of using Box Conditions to replicate this?  The only way I can think of is to set up Custom Events to mirror the 'CensNotxx' or 'CensProbxx' Flags, and use Box Conditions on these.

Nothing on the FHUG Downloads and Links ~ Fact Sets page seems to cover it.

 


Census Flags on Diagrams (Box Conditions) for missing entries

John James
 

I'm returning to FH after a long hiatus.  I used to set Flags on Individuals to indicate the presence (or absence) of Census entries.  I know that Box Conditions can be set to show icons where a Census (or more accurately in my case, a Census with a Source Record and associated Media image) can be used instead to indicate the presence of one of these facts by showing an icon.

However, I also used to set Flags to indicate the absence of a fact (e.g. The absence of a Census entry for an Individual in a given year). That helped prevent me going back over research already exhausted.  So, for example, an Individual might have Flags Census71, CensNot81, Census91, CensNot01 ... 

I also had flags to indicate where an Individual was 'probably' in a given Census, but there was some uncertainty as to the identification.

Can anyone suggest a way of using Box Conditions to replicate this?  The only way I can think of is to set up Custom Events to mirror the 'CensNotxx' or 'CensProbxx' Flags, and use Box Conditions on these.

Nothing on the FHUG Downloads and Links ~ Fact Sets page seems to cover it.


Re: Unable to open file and file not found FH6.2

leelegs <pauline.mitchell88@...>
 

Hi Mike

 

Many thanks for taking the trouble to respond regarding my FH project. I have had a Support Ticket 841418 response yesterday, and this morning from Ros at Calico Pie, some questions to which I have responded.

 

At 78, and I don’t regard myself as thick in the least, but I am not fully conversant with all the in’s and out’s of the workings of a computer nor, for that matter, databases. Yes, I use them, I have a 60,000 entry database of individual pedigrees for the Labrador Retriever breed and the FH6.2 for Family History. For 98 per cent of the time I don’t experience any problem with accessing data, entering data, or closing them when I finish my work.

 

Having not used the FH6.2 for quite some time, the last occasion I can recall was in June 2018. I produced finished work for 10 A4 volumes of information with certificates and photographs for the Bi-Centenary celebration, in Bristol (at which I sang), for my great great grandfather, Moses Brain, born 1818 died 1918. I also prior to that, did an amount of work for my, now, late cousin Christine. Her surname was Manners – their titles are Dukes and Earls of Rutland UK and she was interested in finding out if she had any connection. She did and I managed to trace back through humble beginnings in Calne, Wiltshire, via MPs, Archbishops of Canterbury, Knights of the Realm, Plantagenet family, and The Black Prince  to Cerdic in 534AD the first King of Wessex – there are gaps though. She was delighted with this prior to her demise.

 

I came to the FH database again recently and to my horror, after inputting all that information and, of course, my own lineage to my Lee origins, I was saddened to find that via the icon I could not access the tree. I rang the Tech-Guys at Know How but they don’t help with specific databases, so that was that. An elderly friend, 93, advised me to contact the FH help desk which I did.

 

Anyway, sorry to be so verbose, but I do thank all who have tried to assist. I’m not sure how to do screen shots, but my husband is, and I must ask him about them. What I tend to do is, I know about baking, housekeeping, cooking and singing and he knows about mobile telephones, the TV, the car and the computer and I leave him to it. We both know, though, about our remaining Yellow Labrador, Magnus (Sharouns Ganymede at Stelmarin) and love this nearly 12 year old with a passion.

 

Once again, Mike, thank you for taking both the time and trouble to try to assist. In this instance, having responded to Ros at Calico Pie, I await his further deliberations, after which, hopefully, my Michael will be able to work some magic.

 

Kind regards

 

Pauline

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Mike Tate
Sent: 23 February 2020 18:19
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Unable to open file and file not found FH6.2

 

Sorry that you are having problems with your FH Project.

I’m sure it can be recovered but it would help to have more details about exactly what commands you are using and what the FH displays are showing.

 

So if for example you are trying to open your Project by clicking on File, then Project Window, selecting your Project name, and finally clicking Open Project, then please supply that detail.

It often helps us if you can attach screenshots to your message, as a picture paints a thousand words.

 

Some users find it easier to use the FHUG Forums and Knowledge Base instead of this Email service.

See https://www.fhug.org.uk/

 

Regards, Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of leelegs via Groups.Io
Sent: 23 February 2020 12:04
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] Unable to open file and file not found FH6.2

 

I have used FH6.2 for quite some time, although not in recent months. When I came to access the database recently I could access, if required the Sample Project, but if I wished to access my used database what comes to screen is a square box and on the left-hand side of this box is a red roundel with a X in it. The first line of information in the box says 'Unable to open file' and then there are two more lines of information which I recognise as being the paths via which I ought to be able to access the database, but then the last line says 'File not found'.

In other directories not connected with FH6.2 I do have a couple of versions of my database which I can access. I also have an external back-up facility, but I don't know at what date the last back-up was done - something I must give serious thought to. Is it possible, using either the external back-up facility or one of the versions in my other directories to get the information transported to FH6.2?

I'm not thick, but I am not computer literate as far as the inner workings of paths etc are concerned. I am also 78 years of age - so be gentle with me.

leelegs

 


Re: Add GRO Source

SDCann
 

Thanks, Mike. Very helpful.

Steve.


Re: Add GRO Source

Tom Beckham
 

Hello Steve, 

I am using the same method, with separate entries for the Birth , Marriage and Death.  The particular book is where the data is found and the index data is the citation. 

Tom 


On Fri, 21 Feb 2020, 10:23 pm SDCann, <sdcann@...> wrote:
I'm fairly new to all this, but I created Sources for GRO Births, marriages and deaths, separately. I the create a citation using the relevant source and quote the index data in the citation.

Is this a Good way to do it?

Thanks,

Steve.


Re: Unable to open file and file not found FH6.2

Mike Tate
 

Sorry that you are having problems with your FH Project.

I’m sure it can be recovered but it would help to have more details about exactly what commands you are using and what the FH displays are showing.

 

So if for example you are trying to open your Project by clicking on File, then Project Window, selecting your Project name, and finally clicking Open Project, then please supply that detail.

It often helps us if you can attach screenshots to your message, as a picture paints a thousand words.

 

Some users find it easier to use the FHUG Forums and Knowledge Base instead of this Email service.

See https://www.fhug.org.uk/

 

Regards, Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of leelegs via Groups.Io
Sent: 23 February 2020 12:04
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] Unable to open file and file not found FH6.2

 

I have used FH6.2 for quite some time, although not in recent months. When I came to access the database recently I could access, if required the Sample Project, but if I wished to access my used database what comes to screen is a square box and on the left-hand side of this box is a red roundel with a X in it. The first line of information in the box says 'Unable to open file' and then there are two more lines of information which I recognise as being the paths via which I ought to be able to access the database, but then the last line says 'File not found'.

In other directories not connected with FH6.2 I do have a couple of versions of my database which I can access. I also have an external back-up facility, but I don't know at what date the last back-up was done - something I must give serious thought to. Is it possible, using either the external back-up facility or one of the versions in my other directories to get the information transported to FH6.2?

I'm not thick, but I am not computer literate as far as the inner workings of paths etc are concerned. I am also 78 years of age - so be gentle with me.

leelegs


Re: About pre-1850 U.S. Census Entries

Mike Tate
 

That is the same question as Joel asked in the FHUG Forum:

https://www.fhug.org.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=17485

 

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of joel@...
Sent: 23 February 2020 13:39
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] About pre-1850 U.S. Census Entries

 

Starting with the U.S. 1850 Census, each family member or lodger in a household was listed by name, starting with the Head of Household and then in descending order by age. Prior to that, the U.S. census only names the Head of Household, and provides head counts for gender & age categories (Male, under 5, Female, 5-10, etc.).

One can make assumptions about who those headcounts are, but they are not literally named in those censuses. I normally try to make a reasonable conclusion that a certain spouse and/or children are the likely head-counts indicated in these census entries. Sometimes, you have enough info to do this, sometimes not.

My question is about best practices for entering these pre-1850 censuses in AS. With 1850 and beyond, it is clear that you add each named person to the census data entry in AS. Is it AS intention that only the HoH be added to pre-1850 census or is it okay to make assumptions about who those head counts are, add them to the interface as well, and indicate the category count in their row?

  1. Enter only the HoH and the head counts in the grid as documented in the census.
  2. Enter the HoH and each individual believed ot be represented by the head counts (potentially incorrect and/or incomplete)
  3. Do #1 above and add the census event manually to those individuals who are believed to be represented. This allows a separate note re: the assumption and logic behind it and allows individual changes if other new data confirms/overturns the assumptions.

I can see pros and cons to all of these, but I'm wondering how other AS users might deal with this?

 

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