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Re: Standard Diagrams - All Descendants

Lorna Craig
 

They do have to be spouses.  In other words you are selecting a (single) Family record as the diagram root.  You can't do it with any two random people.

On 16/09/2020 12:46, Fruitbat wrote:
I didn't know you can set two diagram roots.  Thanks for the tip.


Re: Standard Diagrams - All Descendants

Fruitbat
 

On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 11:48 AM, Lorna Craig wrote:
Select them BOTH in the records list or in the existing diagram, then click the All Relatives icon.
I didn't know you can set two diagram roots.  Thanks for the tip. 


Re: Standard Diagrams - All Descendants

Bill Metcalf
 

Hi Lorna

 

Thank you for this advice.

 

Yes: you are quite correct – there was a missing ‘NOT’ . . . sort of important in the communication: embarrassment!

 

I’ll investigate further.

 

Bill

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Lorna Craig via groups.io
Sent: 16 September 2020 11:49
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Standard Diagrams - All Descendants

 

Bill, you refer to “the second marriage of a wife who is a true descendant”.  But if she is a true (direct) descendant of the diagram root any descendant of her second marriage will also be direct descendants.  Did you mean to say she is NOT a true descendant, in other words she was the WIFE of a true descendant (her first husband)?

 

If that is the case a Descendants diagram whose root is one of her first husband’s ancestors won’t include her second family.  However it is possible to insert an extra diagram into the first.  Use Diagram Options > Insert into Diagram and insert a Descendants Tree whose root is this wife. Then in this extra diagram hide her descendants from her first marriage (if any) by clicking the expansion button above them, and hide her first husband (who already appears in the main diagram) by right clicking and selecting ‘Hide’.   By using the Movement Control Box (second icon from the right in the diagram toolbar) you should be able to move various elements of the main diagram so that you can position the inserted tree next to the ‘wife’, ideally overlapping her boxes from the two diagrams.  Unless you are used to manipulating diagrams this might seem difficult, but it can be done.

 

Another approach would be to create an All Relatives diagram with the ‘wife’ and her first husband as joint diagram roots.  (Select them BOTH in the records list or in the existing diagram, then click the All Relatives icon.)  This diagram will include all descendants from both marriages of the wife.  However it will also include any other ancestral branches for either of them, in addition to the particular branch descended from the ancestor who was the root of the original Descendants diagram.  You could then hide these unwanted ancestral branches by clicking on the relevant expansion buttons.

 

Lorna

 

From: Bill Metcalf
Sent: 15 September 2020 18:03
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] Standard Diagrams - All Descendants

 

Is there any way to force (or cheat) the 'All Descendants' chart to include the second marriage of a wife who is a true descendant? My interest is in the descendants of the second marriage who are not true descendants but, nevertheless of family interest.

 


Re: Standard Diagrams - All Descendants

Lorna Craig
 

Bill, you refer to “the second marriage of a wife who is a true descendant”.  But if she is a true (direct) descendant of the diagram root any descendant of her second marriage will also be direct descendants.  Did you mean to say she is NOT a true descendant, in other words she was the WIFE of a true descendant (her first husband)?

 

If that is the case a Descendants diagram whose root is one of her first husband’s ancestors won’t include her second family.  However it is possible to insert an extra diagram into the first.  Use Diagram Options > Insert into Diagram and insert a Descendants Tree whose root is this wife. Then in this extra diagram hide her descendants from her first marriage (if any) by clicking the expansion button above them, and hide her first husband (who already appears in the main diagram) by right clicking and selecting ‘Hide’.   By using the Movement Control Box (second icon from the right in the diagram toolbar) you should be able to move various elements of the main diagram so that you can position the inserted tree next to the ‘wife’, ideally overlapping her boxes from the two diagrams.  Unless you are used to manipulating diagrams this might seem difficult, but it can be done.

 

Another approach would be to create an All Relatives diagram with the ‘wife’ and her first husband as joint diagram roots.  (Select them BOTH in the records list or in the existing diagram, then click the All Relatives icon.)  This diagram will include all descendants from both marriages of the wife.  However it will also include any other ancestral branches for either of them, in addition to the particular branch descended from the ancestor who was the root of the original Descendants diagram.  You could then hide these unwanted ancestral branches by clicking on the relevant expansion buttons.

 

Lorna

 

From: Bill Metcalf
Sent: 15 September 2020 18:03
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] Standard Diagrams - All Descendants

 

Is there any way to force (or cheat) the 'All Descendants' chart to include the second marriage of a wife who is a true descendant? My interest is in the descendants of the second marriage who are not true descendants but, nevertheless of family interest.

 


Standard Diagrams - All Descendants

Bill Metcalf
 

Is there any way to force (or cheat) the 'All Descendants' chart to include the second marriage of a wife who is a true descendant? My interest is in the descendants of the second marriage who are not true descendants but, nevertheless of family interest.


Re: List of a specific Christian name

Jane Taubman
 



On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 at 11:02, <geoff@...> wrote:

I can now see that the name Frederick doesn't appear in my tree before 1875.  That's going back to 1770, .  Since then it's become more widely used.
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The ever useful https://www.behindthename.com has this to say on Frederick

The Normans brought the name to England in the 11th century but it quickly died out. It was reintroduced by the German House of Hanover when they inherited the British throne in the 18th century.


Re: List of a specific Christian name

colevalleygirl@colevalleygirl.co.uk
 

We’ve all stared at a screen and not seen the obvious...  stupid NOT to ask, if you can’t see how to do something!

 

My first Frederick was in 1819... but I only have 3 in my tree.

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of geoff@...
Sent: 14 September 2020 11:02
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] List of a specific Christian name

 

Thank you colevaleygirl, that's all I need.  Why didn't I think of that?  I put myself in the `stupid boy' category for even asking!

I can now see that the name Frederick doesn't appear in my tree before 1875.  That's going back to 1770, .  Since then it's become more widely used.
I'm just interested to work out where/why it suddenly got introduced.  Seems I'd need to widen my cousin research in the period before 1875.

Geoff Frederick J


Re: List of a specific Christian name

geoff@...
 

Thank you colevaleygirl, that's all I need.  Why didn't I think of that?  I put myself in the `stupid boy' category for even asking!

I can now see that the name Frederick doesn't appear in my tree before 1875.  That's going back to 1770, .  Since then it's become more widely used.
I'm just interested to work out where/why it suddenly got introduced.  Seems I'd need to widen my cousin research in the period before 1875.

Geoff Frederick J


Re: List of a specific Christian name

Brian Horridge
 

Geoff

Why not add an extra column in the main Records window for just the forename(s).  FH uses the words "Given Names" and there is a "Given" (just the first forename) and Given_All" (all forenames).  You can then simply sort the column by clicking on the column header.

You can also pick out the middle names by using "Middle" (often where family names are re-used in later generations).

Brian

On 13/09/2020 13:12, geoff@... wrote:
I want to find out where a specific Christian name crops-up in a project.  I can see them fairly easily within a specific surname group, but females can marry and pass-on specific family names with their new surname.  FH display a Name in one lump, but I note when I'm creating a new one, it seems to that forward slashes are displayed momentarily.  Are the names held in a split-up format somewhere?
My objective is to find out when a long-used family name first came into use.
Regards to all.
GeoffJ

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Re: List of a specific Christian name

colevalleygirl@colevalleygirl.co.uk
 

A simple way is to go to the Records Window for Individuals and type the Christian name into the field “First” at the top of the window.

 

An alternative would be a query but try the simple way first.

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of geoff@...
Sent: 13 September 2020 13:13
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] List of a specific Christian name

 

I want to find out where a specific Christian name crops-up in a project.  I can see them fairly easily within a specific surname group, but females can marry and pass-on specific family names with their new surname.  FH display a Name in one lump, but I note when I'm creating a new one, it seems to that forward slashes are displayed momentarily.  Are the names held in a split-up format somewhere?
My objective is to find out when a long-used family name first came into use.
Regards to all.
GeoffJ


List of a specific Christian name

geoff@...
 

I want to find out where a specific Christian name crops-up in a project.  I can see them fairly easily within a specific surname group, but females can marry and pass-on specific family names with their new surname.  FH display a Name in one lump, but I note when I'm creating a new one, it seems to that forward slashes are displayed momentarily.  Are the names held in a split-up format somewhere?
My objective is to find out when a long-used family name first came into use.
Regards to all.
GeoffJ


Re: Box size on diagrams

info@...
 

Many thanks, sorted it now.

Ron


Re: How to copy an ID record

m.schuessel@...
 

Thank you I will try that. 

Op do 10 sep. 2020 om 21:25 schreef Mike Tate <post@...>

Hi Marjon,

I suggest you use the ‘Clone Any Record’ plugin available from the Plugin Store.

 

Select the current sister Individual record and run the plugin, which provides a Result Set of all the new cloned data.

 

That will produce an almost identical ‘twin’ sister with the same parents and all the same Individual facts except as outlined below.

 

This new ‘twin’ will NOT be linked to the husband of the original sister.

Therefore, she will NOT have any Family events such as Marriage nor any Children.

Also, she will NOT be a Fact Witness to any facts.

 

However, that should save you a great deal of work.

 

If you are unsatisfied with what the plugin produces, immediately use the Edit > Undo Plugin Updates command or the File > Backup/Restore > Revert to Snapshot command.

 

Regards, Mike Tate

 










Re: All relatives diagram (was How to copy an ID record)

Neil Grantham
 

Hello s w

You should really create a new email subject, rather than reply to another subject. Makes it easier for other users to search or see unique questions etc.

Anyway, create the diagram and then go to Diagram > Save Diagram as...> PDF File (.pdf)...
Chose the option you want for the layout - I use the default (Adjust PDF...) as it creates one complete page people can scroll around.

Or...
File > Print...
Change the printer to Family Historian PDF, then click OK - this will create a multi page PDF page they can print on A4 paper.

Note where you save the PDF file in any case and then email them the PDF file.

Best Wishes,

Neil


On Thursday, 10 September 2020, 21:47:27 BST, s w <swscreener@...> wrote:


Can anyone tell me how to send an all relatives diagram of a particular relative to that relative?

On Thu, Sep 10, 2020, 3:25 PM Mike Tate <post@...> wrote:

Hi Marjon,

I suggest you use the ‘Clone Any Record’ plugin available from the Plugin Store.

 

Select the current sister Individual record and run the plugin, which provides a Result Set of all the new cloned data.

 

That will produce an almost identical ‘twin’ sister with the same parents and all the same Individual facts except as outlined below.

 

This new ‘twin’ will NOT be linked to the husband of the original sister.

Therefore, she will NOT have any Family events such as Marriage nor any Children.

Also, she will NOT be a Fact Witness to any facts.

 

However, that should save you a great deal of work.

 

If you are unsatisfied with what the plugin produces, immediately use the Edit > Undo Plugin Updates command or the File > Backup/Restore > Revert to Snapshot command.

 

Regards, Mike Tate

 


Re: How to copy an ID record

s w
 

Can anyone tell me how to send an all relatives diagram of a particular relative to that relative?


On Thu, Sep 10, 2020, 3:25 PM Mike Tate <post@...> wrote:

Hi Marjon,

I suggest you use the ‘Clone Any Record’ plugin available from the Plugin Store.

 

Select the current sister Individual record and run the plugin, which provides a Result Set of all the new cloned data.

 

That will produce an almost identical ‘twin’ sister with the same parents and all the same Individual facts except as outlined below.

 

This new ‘twin’ will NOT be linked to the husband of the original sister.

Therefore, she will NOT have any Family events such as Marriage nor any Children.

Also, she will NOT be a Fact Witness to any facts.

 

However, that should save you a great deal of work.

 

If you are unsatisfied with what the plugin produces, immediately use the Edit > Undo Plugin Updates command or the File > Backup/Restore > Revert to Snapshot command.

 

Regards, Mike Tate

 


Re: How to copy an ID record

Mike Tate
 

Hi Marjon,

I suggest you use the ‘Clone Any Record’ plugin available from the Plugin Store.

 

Select the current sister Individual record and run the plugin, which provides a Result Set of all the new cloned data.

 

That will produce an almost identical ‘twin’ sister with the same parents and all the same Individual facts except as outlined below.

 

This new ‘twin’ will NOT be linked to the husband of the original sister.

Therefore, she will NOT have any Family events such as Marriage nor any Children.

Also, she will NOT be a Fact Witness to any facts.

 

However, that should save you a great deal of work.

 

If you are unsatisfied with what the plugin produces, immediately use the Edit > Undo Plugin Updates command or the File > Backup/Restore > Revert to Snapshot command.

 

Regards, Mike Tate

 


How to copy an ID record

m.schuessel@...
 

Hello,

I really need some help with the following. I made an record for a person. I filled in all the information that I had. But now I found out that there are two different persons with the same name and same parents. But two different Husbands. I thought that she was divorced. But it seems to be a sister. How can I split this record in 2 without loosing all the information en media. I first would like to copy everything in two different ID records and then delete the non applicable information.

Thank you for your help

Marjon


Re: Box size on diagrams

Mike Tate
 

In addition to Jane’s suggestion, see the Diagram > Layout & Scaling command options that have several ways of making boxes the same size based on their current size.

e.g. First select all the boxes by clicking Ctrl-A then the options are enabled to Make Selected Boxes the Same Height/Width (min)/(max).

 

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Re: Box size on diagrams

Jane Taubman
 

> I have a picture as a background on a diagram, the box fill is entered as "None" but the box fill is white by default, can it be changed to a clear background fill , if not is there an easy way to make all boxes the same size on a diagram

Have you remembered to change the Box fill on the Box Type as well as the default and remembered to turn off the shadows. You need to check All the conditions on the Boxes tab, or remove them if you don't want them.

You can set all boxes to the same size by adjusting the min and max box sizes on the dimensions tab to your preferred sizes.


On Thu, 10 Sep 2020 at 10:59, <info@...> wrote:
I have a picture as a background on a diagram, the box fill is entered as "None" but the box fill is white by default, can it be changed to a clear background fill , if not is there an easy way to make all boxes the same size on a diagram

Thanks
Ron O'Neill



Box size on diagrams

info@...
 

I have a picture as a background on a diagram, the box fill is entered as "None" but the box fill is white by default, can it be changed to a clear background fill , if not is there an easy way to make all boxes the same size on a diagram

Thanks
Ron O'Neill