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Re: How to copy an ID record

Mike Tate
 

Hi Marjon,

I suggest you use the ‘Clone Any Record’ plugin available from the Plugin Store.

 

Select the current sister Individual record and run the plugin, which provides a Result Set of all the new cloned data.

 

That will produce an almost identical ‘twin’ sister with the same parents and all the same Individual facts except as outlined below.

 

This new ‘twin’ will NOT be linked to the husband of the original sister.

Therefore, she will NOT have any Family events such as Marriage nor any Children.

Also, she will NOT be a Fact Witness to any facts.

 

However, that should save you a great deal of work.

 

If you are unsatisfied with what the plugin produces, immediately use the Edit > Undo Plugin Updates command or the File > Backup/Restore > Revert to Snapshot command.

 

Regards, Mike Tate

 


How to copy an ID record

m.schuessel@...
 

Hello,

I really need some help with the following. I made an record for a person. I filled in all the information that I had. But now I found out that there are two different persons with the same name and same parents. But two different Husbands. I thought that she was divorced. But it seems to be a sister. How can I split this record in 2 without loosing all the information en media. I first would like to copy everything in two different ID records and then delete the non applicable information.

Thank you for your help

Marjon


Re: Box size on diagrams

Mike Tate
 

In addition to Jane’s suggestion, see the Diagram > Layout & Scaling command options that have several ways of making boxes the same size based on their current size.

e.g. First select all the boxes by clicking Ctrl-A then the options are enabled to Make Selected Boxes the Same Height/Width (min)/(max).

 

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Re: Box size on diagrams

Jane Taubman
 

> I have a picture as a background on a diagram, the box fill is entered as "None" but the box fill is white by default, can it be changed to a clear background fill , if not is there an easy way to make all boxes the same size on a diagram

Have you remembered to change the Box fill on the Box Type as well as the default and remembered to turn off the shadows. You need to check All the conditions on the Boxes tab, or remove them if you don't want them.

You can set all boxes to the same size by adjusting the min and max box sizes on the dimensions tab to your preferred sizes.


On Thu, 10 Sep 2020 at 10:59, <info@...> wrote:
I have a picture as a background on a diagram, the box fill is entered as "None" but the box fill is white by default, can it be changed to a clear background fill , if not is there an easy way to make all boxes the same size on a diagram

Thanks
Ron O'Neill



Box size on diagrams

info@...
 

I have a picture as a background on a diagram, the box fill is entered as "None" but the box fill is white by default, can it be changed to a clear background fill , if not is there an easy way to make all boxes the same size on a diagram

Thanks
Ron O'Neill


Re: Can I view a family as shown in a Census? (ex TMG user)

mvilla108
 

Mike, 

After reading your email of 1 Sep 2020, 10:07 I think I now understand how my TMG census event structure doesn’t match the way FH works.

I followed the fhug link you gave me https://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=how_to:import_from_tmg.

From there, under Import Discussions, I followed the link to Census details import to Family Historian 5 from TMG April 2014 ~ Witness and UK Census problems

This was your reply to another ex-TMG FH newcomer who had a similar problem to mine.

In this document, you explained that my census event tags used the EVEN tag whereas FH uses CENS and suggested using your Change Any Fact FH Plugin to change them.

I downloaded this and Lo and Behold all my “missing” census people instantly appeared. I don’t understand how this happened without my having to request action from the Plugin, but I am very pleased with the result.

Maybe you could enlighten me on how the Plugin works? I’m interested to know.

Thanks again,

Rob


On Tue, 1 Sep 2020 at 10:07, Mike Tate <post@...> wrote:

Hi Rob,

There are several alternative ways of recording and viewing Census information.

For example, instead of using the All tab, you can use the Facts tab then right-click the Census fact and choose Witnesses.

You can tell there are witnesses because of the three linked blue balls icon.

 

With TMG imports the Census (family) fact is linked to the Family couple with children as witnesses but otherwise very similar to what you found.

 

There are many TMG users who have faced your problem and found a satisfactory FH compatible solution.

The Family Historian User Group (FHUG) has discussion Forums and a Knowledge Base that explains the options.

It is also much easier to attach screenshots to simplify those explanations.

e.g. See the extensive ‘Import from The Master Genealogist (TMG)’ advice at:

https://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=how_to:import_from_tmg

 

Please visit https://www.fhug.org.uk/forum/ where you can join and use for free.

I look forward to meeting you there.

 

Regards, Mike Tate

 


Re: Can I view a family as shown in a Census? (ex TMG user)

Mike Tate
 

In the Property Box on the All tab, there is a [+] next to every fact.

But that is the same as the Facts tab, right-click any fact and choose Witnesses.

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Heseltine
Sent: 02 September 2020 13:52
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Can I view a family as shown in a Census? (ex TMG user)

 

Hi Rob,

I have not been able to repeat what you describe. Which is the + you clicked on.

 

Mike Heseltine

 

On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 4:24 PM mvilla108 <mvilla108@...> wrote:

Success!

With your help I have been able to view a family as at a census date.

In the FH Sample Project I used Arthur Michael MUNRO [54]. 

In the Property Box, All tab I selected the Census fact for 1871 and clicked on the +. 

This showed me the date, place, address, Witnesses (spouse Mary & 3 children) and the Source. 


Re: Step children

colevalleygirl@colevalleygirl.co.uk
 

Use the menu option Edit > Merge/Compare Records and follow the guidance at https://www.family-historian.co.uk/help/fh6/hh_goto.htm?hh_start.htm#basicrecordmergingandbranchmerging.html

 

You are doing a basic record merge.

 

Do any of the girls have spouses and/or children? If so, you need to be careful to merge not only the individual records but also the family records.

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Peter Rowley
Sent: 02 September 2020 17:14
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] Step children

 

a widowed mother of three daughters remarries and has seven other children. In the 1881, & 1891 census, all the children bear the father's surname and I entered them as per the census.

 

I also entered the three daughters as the children of their birth parents, so I now have 2 records for each of the three girls.

 

Is there any way I can merge the duplicate records without losing their parentage

 

Peter Rowley


Re: Can I view a family as shown in a Census? (ex TMG user)

genealogy@...
 

As an ex TMG user I found that the transition does require work but ultimately FH is a far more flexible programme.
In TMG I recorded census details in two ways with a Census-Head data item in which all the household members as witnesses with roles allocated according to the relationships.
The second tag was just the standard census one for everyone.
I've now gone through all previous Census entries and re-entered everything using Ancestral Sources, creating a text from source entry for each citation and attaching the census images. I've then deleted the old census and census tags.
Although it's a long process I feel that it's been worth it and that the FH solution is better than the old TMG compromise


Re: Can I view a family as shown in a Census? (ex TMG user)

Mike Heseltine <noguru48@...>
 

Hi Rob,
I have not been able to repeat what you describe. Which is the + you clicked on.

Mike Heseltine

On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 4:24 PM mvilla108 <mvilla108@...> wrote:

Success!

With your help I have been able to view a family as at a census date.

In the FH Sample Project I used Arthur Michael MUNRO [54]. 

In the Property Box, All tab I selected the Census fact for 1871 and clicked on the +. 

This showed me the date, place, address, Witnesses (spouse Mary & 3 children) and the Source. 


But that has shown me that I have a problem with my own project which I imported from the TMG project file (.pjc). 

It seems that my Census ‘event tags’ have not been imported! 

When I created these in TMG I would have entered all the above information, i.e., place, address, 2 principals and witnesses (children). Also, the census reference as an imbedded note.


I wonder if any other former TMG users have had this problem and would be able to help me?

Regards, Rob


On Fri, 28 Aug 2020 at 17:30, mvilla108 via groups.io <mvilla108=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:

Thanks very much to Mike, Peter and Lorna. You have given me a lot of information and ideas on how to progress.


Yes Lorna, in TMG I was able to see each person in the same census household. In TMG, the basic medium for recording information was the tag. In the Census tag, I recorded one or two principals (Head of family and maybe spouse) and then Witnesses for children and other relations. The tag also held date, residence details, etc.

My first impression of FH is that it is light years ahead of TMG. I like the idea of attaching images to the source.


I realise that I have a lot of learning to do and am looking forward to getting to grips with the new software.

This weekend, I intend to work through all of your suggestions and hopefully make some good progress.


Thanks again to you all.

Regards,

Rob


On Thu, 27 Aug 2020 at 23:38, Mike Tate <post@...> wrote:

If you can see the Census fact in the Facts tab then select it and click the Show Media image button in the centre of the toolbar below.

You may need to tick the Include Citation Media or Include Source Record Media to see the 1881 Census page.

Also try clicking the Show Sources yellow scroll icon in toolbar top right to reveal the yellow Source Citations pane.

That shows Source Citations and the large blue arrow Go To Source Record button.


Step children

Peter Rowley
 

a widowed mother of three daughters remarries and has seven other children. In the 1881, & 1891 census, all the children bear the father's surname and I entered them as per the census.

I also entered the three daughters as the children of their birth parents, so I now have 2 records for each of the three girls.

Is there any way I can merge the duplicate records without losing their parentage

Peter Rowley


Re: Can I view a family as shown in a Census? (ex TMG user)

Mike Tate
 

Victor,

Here we are talking about the FH Fact Witness feature that some use to link Census households to the Head.

It is in the same way that a Fact Witness can be the Best Man, Bridesmaid, Minister, as well as Witness at a Marriage, or can be a Mourner, Priest, etc, at a Death.

The term Fact Witness is slightly unfortunate and other products called it a Shared Fact.

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Victor Markham
Sent: 01 September 2020 17:31
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Can I view a family as shown in a Census? (ex TMG user)

 

Hi Mike

Since when has census details listed witnesses?

Have I misunderstood something here?

Victor


Re: Can I view a family as shown in a Census? (ex TMG user)

Victor Markham
 

Hi Mike

Since when has census details listed witnesses?

Have I misunderstood something here?

Victor

On 01/09/2020 10:07 am, Mike Tate wrote:

Hi Rob,

There are several alternative ways of recording and viewing Census information.

For example, instead of using the All tab, you can use the Facts tab then right-click the Census fact and choose Witnesses.

You can tell there are witnesses because of the three linked blue balls icon.

 

With TMG imports the Census (family) fact is linked to the Family couple with children as witnesses but otherwise very similar to what you found.

 

There are many TMG users who have faced your problem and found a satisfactory FH compatible solution.

The Family Historian User Group (FHUG) has discussion Forums and a Knowledge Base that explains the options.

It is also much easier to attach screenshots to simplify those explanations.

e.g. See the extensive ‘Import from The Master Genealogist (TMG)’ advice at:

https://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=how_to:import_from_tmg

 

Please visit https://www.fhug.org.uk/forum/ where you can join and use for free.

I look forward to meeting you there.

 

Regards, Mike Tate

 


Re: Can I view a family as shown in a Census? (ex TMG user)

Mike Tate
 

Hi Rob,

There are several alternative ways of recording and viewing Census information.

For example, instead of using the All tab, you can use the Facts tab then right-click the Census fact and choose Witnesses.

You can tell there are witnesses because of the three linked blue balls icon.

 

With TMG imports the Census (family) fact is linked to the Family couple with children as witnesses but otherwise very similar to what you found.

 

There are many TMG users who have faced your problem and found a satisfactory FH compatible solution.

The Family Historian User Group (FHUG) has discussion Forums and a Knowledge Base that explains the options.

It is also much easier to attach screenshots to simplify those explanations.

e.g. See the extensive ‘Import from The Master Genealogist (TMG)’ advice at:

https://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=how_to:import_from_tmg

 

Please visit https://www.fhug.org.uk/forum/ where you can join and use for free.

I look forward to meeting you there.

 

Regards, Mike Tate

 


Re: Can I view a family as shown in a Census? (ex TMG user)

mvilla108
 

Success!

With your help I have been able to view a family as at a census date.

In the FH Sample Project I used Arthur Michael MUNRO [54]. 

In the Property Box, All tab I selected the Census fact for 1871 and clicked on the +. 

This showed me the date, place, address, Witnesses (spouse Mary & 3 children) and the Source. 


But that has shown me that I have a problem with my own project which I imported from the TMG project file (.pjc). 

It seems that my Census ‘event tags’ have not been imported! 

When I created these in TMG I would have entered all the above information, i.e., place, address, 2 principals and witnesses (children). Also, the census reference as an imbedded note.


I wonder if any other former TMG users have had this problem and would be able to help me?

Regards, Rob


On Fri, 28 Aug 2020 at 17:30, mvilla108 via groups.io <mvilla108=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:

Thanks very much to Mike, Peter and Lorna. You have given me a lot of information and ideas on how to progress.


Yes Lorna, in TMG I was able to see each person in the same census household. In TMG, the basic medium for recording information was the tag. In the Census tag, I recorded one or two principals (Head of family and maybe spouse) and then Witnesses for children and other relations. The tag also held date, residence details, etc.

My first impression of FH is that it is light years ahead of TMG. I like the idea of attaching images to the source.


I realise that I have a lot of learning to do and am looking forward to getting to grips with the new software.

This weekend, I intend to work through all of your suggestions and hopefully make some good progress.


Thanks again to you all.

Regards,

Rob


On Thu, 27 Aug 2020 at 23:38, Mike Tate <post@...> wrote:

If you can see the Census fact in the Facts tab then select it and click the Show Media image button in the centre of the toolbar below.

You may need to tick the Include Citation Media or Include Source Record Media to see the 1881 Census page.

Also try clicking the Show Sources yellow scroll icon in toolbar top right to reveal the yellow Source Citations pane.

That shows Source Citations and the large blue arrow Go To Source Record button.


Re: Preferred name

Neil Grantham
 

Brilliant, thank you Paul

Best Wishes,

Neil


On Monday, 31 August 2020, 09:25:37 BST, Paul Tanner-Tremaine <paul@...> wrote:


At the bottom of the link where you added the alternate name, is a 'Make Primary'  Click that.


Re: Preferred name

Paul Tanner-Tremaine
 

At the bottom of the link where you added the alternate name, is a 'Make Primary'  Click that.


Preferred name

Neil Grantham
 

Hello all

Not something I've come across before and had to attempt in FH.

I have a family member whose wife prefers to have her own and her married surname as the name she goes by
EG
Paul Smith marries Sheila Jones, and she prefers to be called Sheila Jones-Smith

I can see how to add a name in the 'All' Tab, but is there a way to make the preferred name appear in reports as her default?

Best Wishes,

Neil


Re: Duplication

Brian Horridge
 

Joan & Sheena

Before risking deleting the possibly duplicated files, something I've done in similar circumstances is to simply move the files in question to another (temporary) folder and see if any error messages are generated.

Brian

On 30/08/2020 10:48, Mike Tate wrote:

Joan and Sheena,

As I said before they are not duplicate Projects but duplicate files created by OneDrive sync problems.

I suspect that after the Project name ending with your laptop name it says (Folder: <original project name>)

Use Windows File Explorer and investigate your Project folders usually located within …\Documents\Family Historian Projects\...

Inside those sub-folders you will find files whose name ends with your laptop name, and which can be deleted.

It is extremely difficult to give precise and safe instructions without seeing exactly what folders and files are involved.

If you are not sure about what you are deleting then it could be very risky. I need screenshots of your files.

Attaching screenshots to these Emails is a slow process because they must be vetted by the administrators.

I advise that you join the free FHUG Forums where screenshot attachments are so much easier.

https://www.fhug.org.uk/forum


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Re: Duplication

Mike Tate
 

Joan and Sheena,

As I said before they are not duplicate Projects but duplicate files created by OneDrive sync problems.

I suspect that after the Project name ending with your laptop name it says (Folder: <original project name>)

Use Windows File Explorer and investigate your Project folders usually located within …\Documents\Family Historian Projects\...

Inside those sub-folders you will find files whose name ends with your laptop name, and which can be deleted.

 

It is extremely difficult to give precise and safe instructions without seeing exactly what folders and files are involved.

If you are not sure about what you are deleting then it could be very risky. I need screenshots of your files.

Attaching screenshots to these Emails is a slow process because they must be vetted by the administrators.

 

I advise that you join the free FHUG Forums where screenshot attachments are so much easier.

https://www.fhug.org.uk/forum

 

 

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