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Re: Internet Data Match issue

Tom Gray
 

Neil, Trevor,
Pastinig into the web browser (Chrome) worked and I can see the 14 results.
My issue is why does it not show the result within FH as it used to?
Have never had to copy and paste to web browser before. Simply clicked on the green circle and the results showed up.


Tom gray


Re: Internet Data Match issue

Neil Grantham
 

Why paste it to Word?
Just copy it to a browser and it will bring up the correct web page.

Best Wishes,

Neil


On Monday, 27 July 2020, 12:03:31 BST, Tom Gray via groups.io <tmwgray@...> wrote:


Any ideas on what could be causing the following.

When hovering over an Internet match in the Focus window it often shows a quantity of matches from both Find My Past and My Heritage. I do not have an account with either of them and I have never accepted or rejected any matches as it prompt you to open an account.

 

With a family of several siblings, clicking on the My Heritage link of one of them opens the Web Search pop up with further details. If I close the details, move to check another family member and then return to the first match it is no longer available. It seems as if once viewed it is no longer available.

 

Clicking on the Find my Past link opens the Web Search pop up but shows a blank screen with an internet link shown as below but no details. Clicking on the small green arrow on the right does nothing.

 

https://www.findmypast.co.uk/hints-ui/#/list/b8511ff7-a4fd-41b0-89fc-98446a06f3df?partnerId=bff1e76b-6647-436d-9569-ce49d410aae5&status=New

 

The link does not seem to work. I copied and pasted it to a Word Doc, enabled the hyperlink and Ctrl + Clicked on it and it came up with the following. {"statusCode":400,"error":"Bad Request","message":"Invalid cookie header"}

No web page at all.

 

I have checked the Internet Data Setting and they are all as per the FH help pages for each of the providers, Find my Past and My Heritage.

 

I have tried this out on several different families but the results are as described above.

 

Using FH v6.2 and Win 10 Pro ver 2004 with all Microsoft updates installed.

 

Tom Gray


Re: Internet Data Match issue

Trevor Rix
 

Tom, your Findmypast link for Alexander Moir is a valid link. Try pasting the link to the address bar in your normal browser.


Re: Internet Data Match issue

Tom Gray
 

Any ideas on what could be causing the following.

When hovering over an Internet match in the Focus window it often shows a quantity of matches from both Find My Past and My Heritage. I do not have an account with either of them and I have never accepted or rejected any matches as it prompt you to open an account.

 

With a family of several siblings, clicking on the My Heritage link of one of them opens the Web Search pop up with further details. If I close the details, move to check another family member and then return to the first match it is no longer available. It seems as if once viewed it is no longer available.

 

Clicking on the Find my Past link opens the Web Search pop up but shows a blank screen with an internet link shown as below but no details. Clicking on the small green arrow on the right does nothing.

 

https://www.findmypast.co.uk/hints-ui/#/list/b8511ff7-a4fd-41b0-89fc-98446a06f3df?partnerId=bff1e76b-6647-436d-9569-ce49d410aae5&status=New

 

The link does not seem to work. I copied and pasted it to a Word Doc, enabled the hyperlink and Ctrl + Clicked on it and it came up with the following. {"statusCode":400,"error":"Bad Request","message":"Invalid cookie header"}

No web page at all.

 

I have checked the Internet Data Setting and they are all as per the FH help pages for each of the providers, Find my Past and My Heritage.

 

I have tried this out on several different families but the results are as described above.

 

Using FH v6.2 and Win 10 Pro ver 2004 with all Microsoft updates installed.

 

Tom Gray


Re: Delete a second marriage error?

johnfirr@...
 

So do you used named lists and flags to keep your projects in order John or do you just query the database on surname etc.

One reason I am trying to maintain separation to some extent is to make it easy to separate the on
stuff when I get to the point of setting up an ons website.
John


Re: Delete a second marriage error?

John Hanson
 

John

I have been using FH since version 2 and have my one-name study mixed with my own family tree – after all it was my 4th times Great Grandmother that really got me hooked nearly 40 years ago. When I started on my wife’s family is started with a separate file and merged it after a while. The same with my brother-in-law – Mind I was in the USA at the time for their daughter’s wedding and felt it easier to do on its own but back home it got merged.

 

I am fortunate I suppose in that my ONS goes back to a single individual in 1690 and everyone with the name can be traced  back to him

 

I will shortly be moving my main ONS from TMG to FH (due to the demise of the former) and that has over 35,000 people and over 1,000 separate trees but I still find it manageable

 

So take the plunge merge them and work from there

 

Regards
John Hanson - researching the Halstead/Holstead/Alstead names
Researcher, the Halsted Trust - https://www.halsted.org.uk
Research website - https://www.halstedresearch.org.uk

2021 Family History Conference - https://www.elizabethanancestors.org.uk

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of johnfirr via groups.io
Sent: 27 July 2020 10:36
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Delete a second marriage error?

 

Thanks Mike,
Why do I need to seperate them? - is a very good question and I guess thats why I raised the issue.

I think there are two reasons and neither probably stands up!

1) I have used FH for quite a while but have dipped into and out of my genealogy at various points, probably only ever tinkering really, as such I just used FH "out of the box" using just the simplest box filling and linking tools. To this end I always got a bit panicky about the data getting too extensive for me to see what was going on because I didnt really know how to use the programme. Since lockdown I have become far more focussed and serious and have taken time to get to grips with FH ( although I still make silly mistakes - see earlier posts!) I have realised I dont need lots of extra spreadsheets, paper files etc the programme will cope with it all if I just knuckle down and learn to use it properly. To this end I am realising it doesnt matter if I have loads of records, the database knows where they all are and can find them!

2) I have two projects because one is my Family History and one is a one name study. Again not understanding the scope of FH properly I didnt originally feel it was suitable for collating a one name study, but following advice on here I jumped in and am finding it can do everything I need albeit its not so neat and tidy as there are lots of "unlinked" individuals at the moment.

So it really amounts to the fact that combining them probably makes sense and its just my slightly OCD approach to wanting everything neat, tidy and in boxes that has stopped me doing it.

Regards
John
PS discovered your "duplicates" plug in last night and think it will be the answer to a lot of my family reconstruction conundrums thanks.


Re: Delete a second marriage error?

Mike Tate
 

Those two distinct purposes, ‘Your Family History’ and a ‘One Name Study’, are perhaps better kept as two separate Projects.

I guess the Name in the ‘One Name Study’ is your Surname and that is why there is some overlap.

The way to keep the overlapping records in sync is to maintain a Named List of the people in both Projects.

Then you can easily export a GEDCOM file of that subset and use File > Merge/Compare File to migrate data from one Project to the other Project.

 


Re: Delete a second marriage error?

johnfirr@...
 

Thanks Mike,
Why do I need to seperate them? - is a very good question and I guess thats why I raised the issue.

I think there are two reasons and neither probably stands up!

1) I have used FH for quite a while but have dipped into and out of my genealogy at various points, probably only ever tinkering really, as such I just used FH "out of the box" using just the simplest box filling and linking tools. To this end I always got a bit panicky about the data getting too extensive for me to see what was going on because I didnt really know how to use the programme. Since lockdown I have become far more focussed and serious and have taken time to get to grips with FH ( although I still make silly mistakes - see earlier posts!) I have realised I dont need lots of extra spreadsheets, paper files etc the programme will cope with it all if I just knuckle down and learn to use it properly. To this end I am realising it doesnt matter if I have loads of records, the database knows where they all are and can find them!

2) I have two projects because one is my Family History and one is a one name study. Again not understanding the scope of FH properly I didnt originally feel it was suitable for collating a one name study, but following advice on here I jumped in and am finding it can do everything I need albeit its not so neat and tidy as there are lots of "unlinked" individuals at the moment.

So it really amounts to the fact that combining them probably makes sense and its just my slightly OCD approach to wanting everything neat, tidy and in boxes that has stopped me doing it.

Regards
John
PS discovered your "duplicates" plug in last night and think it will be the answer to a lot of my family reconstruction conundrums thanks.


Re: Delete a second marriage error?

Jane Taubman
 

As Mike suggests it's much easier to keep a single project and split off data when sharing with others.

I wrote a small article on this some time ago which you might like to review




Re: Delete a second marriage error?

Mike Tate
 

The advice that is always given here, and in the FHUG Forums, for Projects with a significant overlap like this is to merge into one large Project.

It is not possible for FH to automatically update fragments from two Projects.

 

You probably don’t even need to use flags to identify the two sub-trees as they are usually ancestral branches of key individuals.

e.g. Your ancestors and your wife’s ancestors.

Why do you need to separate them? Is it just for creating Diagrams? That can often be done by choosing the appropriate Diagram Root Individual.

 

Regards, Mike Tate

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of johnfirr via groups.io
Sent: 27 July 2020 09:32
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Delete a second marriage error?

 

thanks everyone, all resolved.
Can I ask a follow up question that is perhaps more involved?

The dual entry situation clearly arose in my case from merging records ( as suggested in the video). the reason I am merging is because I am running two seperate projects which share about 10% of individuals and I am trying to keep them in line and was looking to see if I could avoid having to manually enter everything twice.

I,m sure others on here have multiple projects so how do you deal with this? I assume its not possible for FH to do dynamic updates on two projects at the same time so is it through careful merging or should I just be running one big project and seperating them via flags etc?
Would love to know what strategies are being used.

regards
John


Re: Delete a second marriage error?

johnfirr@...
 

thanks everyone, all resolved.
Can I ask a follow up question that is perhaps more involved?

The dual entry situation clearly arose in my case from merging records ( as suggested in the video). the reason I am merging is because I am running two seperate projects which share about 10% of individuals and I am trying to keep them in line and was looking to see if I could avoid having to manually enter everything twice.

I,m sure others on here have multiple projects so how do you deal with this? I assume its not possible for FH to do dynamic updates on two projects at the same time so is it through careful merging or should I just be running one big project and seperating them via flags etc?
Would love to know what strategies are being used.

regards
John


Re: Delete a second marriage error?

Mike Tate
 

As suggested earlier, do NOT solve this by deleting anything.

Instead select the two similarly named Family records via the Records Window and use Edit > Merge/Compare Records.

That ensures any children, media, sources, etc, linked to either Family record will be preserved.

 


Re: Delete a second marriage error?

Pauline Parnell
 

Poor woman!  Didn’t she suffer enough? 😃

It’s view – record lists – families, select the one you want to lose and press delete.  Did something very similar myself … twice.  I’m not sure what you do if there is media attached as I hadn’t got that far.

All the best,

Pauline

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of johnfirr via groups.io
Sent: 26 July 2020 15:49
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] Delete a second marriage error?

 

Hi all,
I,m not sure how I achieved this but I appear to have managed to get a couple appearing to marry each other twice. Can anyone tell me how to delete the second marriage? I,ve looked in the help file and I,m sure its there but I cant find it?

 

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Re: Delete a second marriage error?

Derek Kain
 

Hello John,
I'll answer your question although somebody else may have a better way to do it.
As I have had this problem myself several times.
The property box shows a daughter. Is this linked to the second marriage?
If so link this daughter to the family at the top.
Then unlink the daughter from the bottom family.
Then unlink the wife of the bottom family.
The husband of the second family should then clear.
Derek Kain

On Sun, 26 Jul 2020 at 18:31, johnfirr via groups.io <johnfirr=yahoo.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
Hi all,
I,m not sure how I achieved this but I appear to have managed to get a couple appearing to marry each other twice. Can anyone tell me how to delete the second marriage? I,ve looked in the help file and I,m sure its there but I cant find it?


Re: Delete a second marriage error?

Lorna Craig
 

If you are a member of FHUG it's worth keeping an eye on questions asked there.  As it happens, a question about the same problem was asked there only two days ago: https://www.fhug.org.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=17956

Bear in mind also that screenshots can be added easily to posts in the forums there so it's often easier to raise a topic there.

Lorna

On 26/07/2020 19:42, johnfirr via groups.io wrote:
Thanks for that, perfect and I now know that it arose from a merging of records which is precisely what I had just carried out. All sorted.
( and apologies to mods for inclusion of screenshot, I noticed earlier mail about images after I had sent this).


Re: Delete a second marriage error?

johnfirr@...
 

Thanks for that, perfect and I now know that it arose from a merging of records which is precisely what I had just carried out. All sorted.
( and apologies to mods for inclusion of screenshot, I noticed earlier mail about images after I had sent this).


Re: Delete a second marriage error?

colevalleygirl@colevalleygirl.co.uk
 

No!

Don’t do that!

What you almost certainly have is duplicated Family records. Watch https://youtu.be/TZpoZNET0t8 For instructions to fix it.

 

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Trevor Rix
Sent: 26 July 2020 19:19
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Delete a second marriage error?

 

The first thing to do is click the All tab in the property box where you will see both spouses. Use the delete key on your keyboard to delete the duplicate. But before you do that, check what has happened thoroughly, for example does the duplicate have children?


Re: Delete a second marriage error?

Trevor Rix
 

The first thing to do is click the All tab in the property box where you will see both spouses. Use the delete key on your keyboard to delete the duplicate. But before you do that, check what has happened thoroughly, for example does the duplicate have children?


Delete a second marriage error?

johnfirr@...
 

Hi all,
I,m not sure how I achieved this but I appear to have managed to get a couple appearing to marry each other twice. Can anyone tell me how to delete the second marriage? I,ve looked in the help file and I,m sure its there but I cant find it?


Re: File attachments and Images on this list

johnfirr@...
 

Apologies. I have just sent a message with a screenshot on. I wondered when it didn't appear and have just seen this.

Please feel free to delete without review, I won't make mistake again now I've seen this.
Regards
John

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