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Re: Diagram not showing familial link

Mike Tate
 

Yes, families of spouses of direct ancestors are not currently included even in an All Relatives Diagram.

It is rumoured that will be improved in FH V7.

 

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Michele Sinclair
Sent: 04 July 2020 18:39
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Diagram not showing familial link

 

Thank you for your response.  Both of those issues are dealt with!  I'm trying to add parents and siblings to a husband who is not a direct antecedent - his wife is.  Does that make a difference?  

Regards,

Michele Sinclair.


On 4 Jul 2020, at 14:48, Lorna Craig via groups.io <l.m.craig@...> wrote:

You may need to click the small expansion button (circle) in the diagram above the individual whose parents you have added.

Another thing to check is Diagram Options > General tab > Generations Up and make sure this is set to enough generations up from the diagram root to display them all.

Lorna




Re: Diagram not showing familial link

Michele Sinclair
 

Thank you for your response.  Both of those issues are dealt with!  I'm trying to add parents and siblings to a husband who is not a direct antecedent - his wife is.  Does that make a difference?  

Regards,
Michele Sinclair.

On 4 Jul 2020, at 14:48, Lorna Craig via groups.io <l.m.craig@...> wrote:

You may need to click the small expansion button (circle) in the diagram above the individual whose parents you have added.

Another thing to check is Diagram Options > General tab > Generations Up and make sure this is set to enough generations up from the diagram root to display them all.

Lorna


Re: Diagram not showing familial link

Lorna Craig
 

You may need to click the small expansion button (circle) in the diagram above the individual whose parents you have added.

Another thing to check is Diagram Options > General tab > Generations Up and make sure this is set to enough generations up from the diagram root to display them all.

Lorna


Diagram not showing familial link

Michele Sinclair
 

Hi,
I have opened a parent window, entered the parent, but it is not showing on the diagram!  It's the first time that this has ever happened!  Anyone any ideas please?  I've deleted and re-entered and still the same. Michele


Re: User Defined shortcuts

ioforum@...
 

If you are frequently working on a small set of individuals then why not create a named list and add them to that list.
You could create named lists for all individuals from a particualr town or city, other named lists for individuals grouped by period, endless possibilities.

They will always be on hand and easy to locate the individuals you want.


Re: Repository Records - Sources

Robert
 

On Friday, July 3, 2020, 07:36, colevalleygirl@... <colevalleygirl@...> wrote:

Select the Repository, then use View > Record Links... from the menu.

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert via groups.io
Sent: 03 July 2020 07:26
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] Repository Records - Sources

 

I have these Repositories, and the source counts are listed. How do I view the sources for a particular Repository, for instance, I have have 64 sources against my Ancestry Repository, and would like to list them. Clicking on the Show Sources tab in the repository property box reveals "not applicable"


Re: Repository Records - Sources

colevalleygirl@colevalleygirl.co.uk
 

Select the Repository, then use View > Record Links... from the menu.

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert via groups.io
Sent: 03 July 2020 07:26
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] Repository Records - Sources

 

I have these Repositories, and the source counts are listed. How do I view the sources for a particular Repository, for instance, I have have 64 sources against my Ancestry Repository, and would like to list them. Clicking on the Show Sources tab in the repository property box reveals "not applicable"


Repository Records - Sources

Robert
 

I have these Repositories, and the source counts are listed. How do I view the sources for a particular Repository, for instance, I have have 64 sources against my Ancestry Repository, and would like to list them. Clicking on the Show Sources tab in the repository property box reveals "not applicable"


Re: User Defined shortcuts

John Hanson
 

John

Interestingly in a survey a couple of years ago within the Guild of One-name studies Family Historian was the most popular program

 

Regards
John Hanson - researching the Halstead/Holstead/Alstead names
Researcher, the Halsted Trust - https://www.halsted.org.uk
Research website - https://www.halstedresearch.org.uk

2021 Family History Conference - https://www.elizabethanancestors.org.uk

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of johnfirr via groups.io
Sent: 02 July 2020 17:59
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] User Defined shortcuts

 

Thanks everyone for the help.

Yes the issue is not getting to the individual record entry but getting that individual into the focus window when they are unlinked to any family. John ( Hanson) thanks that is exactly the method I have discovered I just wondered if there was a slightly quicker way.
I have been using FH for quite a while but probably tend to stick with the easy stuff and adapting it to a One name study where initially at least I have quite a lot of unlinked individuals is taking a bit of thinking about but having said that its my favourite bit of genealogy software as it seems so much more intuitive tan some of the competition.


Re: User Defined shortcuts

Mike Tate
 

Having found the Individual record in the Records Window, or anywhere else, click the Focus magnifying-glass button in toolbar to open that record in the Focus Window.

 

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Re: User Defined shortcuts

johnfirr@...
 

Thanks everyone for the help.

Yes the issue is not getting to the individual record entry but getting that individual into the focus window when they are unlinked to any family. John ( Hanson) thanks that is exactly the method I have discovered I just wondered if there was a slightly quicker way.
I have been using FH for quite a while but probably tend to stick with the easy stuff and adapting it to a One name study where initially at least I have quite a lot of unlinked individuals is taking a bit of thinking about but having said that its my favourite bit of genealogy software as it seems so much more intuitive tan some of the competition.


Re: Citation Media

Keith Taylor
 

That looked like it might be useful, Mike, but in fact it only moved two LMOs

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Re: Citation Media

Keith Taylor
 

Thanks again, Jane,

That has cracked it.
In my little debug loop, when I get to the event I'm interested in (ptrEvent) I loop over its child items. What I was doing was looking for the SOUR tag and instead of looping over its child items I was getting the source record from the link, and of course the OBJE wasn't in that.

Using pObj = fhGetItemPtr(ptrEvent,'~.SOUR[1].OBJE[1]>') showed me it really really was there after all.

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Keith


Re: Citation Media

Mike Tate
 

I wonder if those are Local Media Objects within the Individual record rather than separately linked Media records.

There is the ‘Move Local Media to Media Records’ Plugin that will convert them so they are more manageable.

https://www.family-historian.co.uk/pluginstore/plugin-entry?id=1946

It does no harm to run it because if there are no Local Media Objects nothing gets changed.

 

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Keith Taylor
Sent: 02 July 2020 14:31
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Citation Media

 

Thanks Jane, I'll give those data references a try.

At the moment I have a plugin which is processing this individual. It  has a bit of debug code to loop over child items. When it hits the source record it loops over that record's child items. The OBJE only appears as a child item if it's a source level media object. It's not there at all if it's a citation media object.

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Re: Citation Media

Keith Taylor
 

Thanks Jane, I'll give those data references a try.

At the moment I have a plugin which is processing this individual. It  has a bit of debug code to loop over child items. When it hits the source record it loops over that record's child items. The OBJE only appears as a child item if it's a source level media object. It's not there at all if it's a citation media object.

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Keith


Re: User Defined shortcuts

Mike Tate
 

It is not clear why you need to redefine the root person to get to their record.

There are numerous ways of easily finding a record, especially via the Records Window filters.

Perhaps, you are talking about opening FH with a particular record in focus.

There is the ‘Create Individual Shortcut’ Plugin that supports that via Desktop Shortcuts for each Individual you choose.

https://www.family-historian.co.uk/pluginstore/plugin-entry?id=1873

 

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of johnfirr via groups.io
Sent: 02 July 2020 11:34
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] User Defined shortcuts

 

is it possible to set up user defined shortcut keys in FH? As well as for family history I am using FH to record master data for a one name study. As it is not designed really for this type of study which initially at least throws up a lot of unlinked individuals I find myself constantly having to redefine the root person to get to their record. It would be good If I could set up a shortcut or function key allowing me to redefine root directly from the individuals list without going via a seperate menu. Is this possible?

John


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Re: ADMIN - Online Repository Assistant

Robert
 

Will do!




On Thursday, July 2, 2020, 09:28, Ros <ros@...> wrote:

Please remember this list is for Family Historian.  We do realise ORA can be used along side it,  but detailed discussions of how to use it is off topic for this list.  

Please consider setting up your own list or using the General forum at FHUG  if you would like to consider discussing the program and programs author does not provide a forum or list for the program.


Re: User Defined shortcuts

John Hanson
 

John

I run a large ONS myself and the easiest way to change file root is

 

I never use the focus window because I have over 1200 family trees in the same file
Find the name on the list “edit menu/File Root/Set as file” no extra menus or anything
Any hot may mean that you might have to turn it on or off which adds even more keystrokes

 

Regards
John Hanson - researching the Halstead/Holstead/Alstead names
Researcher, the Halsted Trust - https://www.halsted.org.uk
Research website - https://www.halstedresearch.org.uk

2021 Family History Conference - https://www.elizabethanancestors.org.uk

 

 

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of johnfirr via groups.io
Sent: 02 July 2020 11:34
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] User Defined shortcuts

 

is it possible to set up user defined shortcut keys in FH? As well as for family history I am using FH to record master data for a one name study. As it is not designed really for this type of study which initially at least throws up a lot of unlinked individuals I find myself constantly having to redefine the root person to get to their record. It would be good If I could set up a shortcut or function key allowing me to redefine root directly from the individuals list without going via a seperate menu. Is this possible?

John


Re: User Defined shortcuts

Brian Horridge
 

John

I use Autohotkey for both FH as well as when typing into excel spreadsheets for my own ONS.

Brian

On 02/07/2020 11:34, johnfirr via groups.io wrote:
is it possible to set up user defined shortcut keys in FH? As well as for family history I am using FH to record master data for a one name study. As it is not designed really for this type of study which initially at least throws up a lot of unlinked individuals I find myself constantly having to redefine the root person to get to their record. It would be good If I could set up a shortcut or function key allowing me to redefine root directly from the individuals list without going via a seperate menu. Is this possible?

John

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Re: Citation Media

Jane Taubman
 


On Thu, 2 Jul 2020 at 12:53, Keith Taylor <keithatserendib@...> wrote:
So is it possible to access Citation Media programmatically? I can't see a way to do so.

Were you looking for the Data Reference, for example?
%INDI.BIRT[1].SOUR[1].OBJE[1]>%
Gives you a citation media object and

%INDI.BIRT[1].SOUR[1]>OBJE[1]>%

Gives you a source level media object.  Note the > which moves you to the record.

If you have not read the Data Reference help it's worth checking out

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