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Repository Records - Sources

Robert
 

I have these Repositories, and the source counts are listed. How do I view the sources for a particular Repository, for instance, I have have 64 sources against my Ancestry Repository, and would like to list them. Clicking on the Show Sources tab in the repository property box reveals "not applicable"


Re: User Defined shortcuts

John Hanson
 

John

Interestingly in a survey a couple of years ago within the Guild of One-name studies Family Historian was the most popular program

 

Regards
John Hanson - researching the Halstead/Holstead/Alstead names
Researcher, the Halsted Trust - https://www.halsted.org.uk
Research website - https://www.halstedresearch.org.uk

2021 Family History Conference - https://www.elizabethanancestors.org.uk

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of johnfirr via groups.io
Sent: 02 July 2020 17:59
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] User Defined shortcuts

 

Thanks everyone for the help.

Yes the issue is not getting to the individual record entry but getting that individual into the focus window when they are unlinked to any family. John ( Hanson) thanks that is exactly the method I have discovered I just wondered if there was a slightly quicker way.
I have been using FH for quite a while but probably tend to stick with the easy stuff and adapting it to a One name study where initially at least I have quite a lot of unlinked individuals is taking a bit of thinking about but having said that its my favourite bit of genealogy software as it seems so much more intuitive tan some of the competition.


Re: User Defined shortcuts

Mike Tate
 

Having found the Individual record in the Records Window, or anywhere else, click the Focus magnifying-glass button in toolbar to open that record in the Focus Window.

 

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Re: User Defined shortcuts

johnfirr@...
 

Thanks everyone for the help.

Yes the issue is not getting to the individual record entry but getting that individual into the focus window when they are unlinked to any family. John ( Hanson) thanks that is exactly the method I have discovered I just wondered if there was a slightly quicker way.
I have been using FH for quite a while but probably tend to stick with the easy stuff and adapting it to a One name study where initially at least I have quite a lot of unlinked individuals is taking a bit of thinking about but having said that its my favourite bit of genealogy software as it seems so much more intuitive tan some of the competition.


Re: Citation Media

Keith Taylor
 

That looked like it might be useful, Mike, but in fact it only moved two LMOs

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Re: Citation Media

Keith Taylor
 

Thanks again, Jane,

That has cracked it.
In my little debug loop, when I get to the event I'm interested in (ptrEvent) I loop over its child items. What I was doing was looking for the SOUR tag and instead of looping over its child items I was getting the source record from the link, and of course the OBJE wasn't in that.

Using pObj = fhGetItemPtr(ptrEvent,'~.SOUR[1].OBJE[1]>') showed me it really really was there after all.

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Keith


Re: Citation Media

Mike Tate
 

I wonder if those are Local Media Objects within the Individual record rather than separately linked Media records.

There is the ‘Move Local Media to Media Records’ Plugin that will convert them so they are more manageable.

https://www.family-historian.co.uk/pluginstore/plugin-entry?id=1946

It does no harm to run it because if there are no Local Media Objects nothing gets changed.

 

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Keith Taylor
Sent: 02 July 2020 14:31
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Citation Media

 

Thanks Jane, I'll give those data references a try.

At the moment I have a plugin which is processing this individual. It  has a bit of debug code to loop over child items. When it hits the source record it loops over that record's child items. The OBJE only appears as a child item if it's a source level media object. It's not there at all if it's a citation media object.

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Re: Citation Media

Keith Taylor
 

Thanks Jane, I'll give those data references a try.

At the moment I have a plugin which is processing this individual. It  has a bit of debug code to loop over child items. When it hits the source record it loops over that record's child items. The OBJE only appears as a child item if it's a source level media object. It's not there at all if it's a citation media object.

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Keith


Re: User Defined shortcuts

Mike Tate
 

It is not clear why you need to redefine the root person to get to their record.

There are numerous ways of easily finding a record, especially via the Records Window filters.

Perhaps, you are talking about opening FH with a particular record in focus.

There is the ‘Create Individual Shortcut’ Plugin that supports that via Desktop Shortcuts for each Individual you choose.

https://www.family-historian.co.uk/pluginstore/plugin-entry?id=1873

 

 

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Subject: [family-historian] User Defined shortcuts

 

is it possible to set up user defined shortcut keys in FH? As well as for family history I am using FH to record master data for a one name study. As it is not designed really for this type of study which initially at least throws up a lot of unlinked individuals I find myself constantly having to redefine the root person to get to their record. It would be good If I could set up a shortcut or function key allowing me to redefine root directly from the individuals list without going via a seperate menu. Is this possible?

John


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Re: ADMIN - Online Repository Assistant

Robert
 

Will do!




On Thursday, July 2, 2020, 09:28, Ros <ros@...> wrote:

Please remember this list is for Family Historian.  We do realise ORA can be used along side it,  but detailed discussions of how to use it is off topic for this list.  

Please consider setting up your own list or using the General forum at FHUG  if you would like to consider discussing the program and programs author does not provide a forum or list for the program.


Re: User Defined shortcuts

John Hanson
 

John

I run a large ONS myself and the easiest way to change file root is

 

I never use the focus window because I have over 1200 family trees in the same file
Find the name on the list “edit menu/File Root/Set as file” no extra menus or anything
Any hot may mean that you might have to turn it on or off which adds even more keystrokes

 

Regards
John Hanson - researching the Halstead/Holstead/Alstead names
Researcher, the Halsted Trust - https://www.halsted.org.uk
Research website - https://www.halstedresearch.org.uk

2021 Family History Conference - https://www.elizabethanancestors.org.uk

 

 

 

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Sent: 02 July 2020 11:34
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] User Defined shortcuts

 

is it possible to set up user defined shortcut keys in FH? As well as for family history I am using FH to record master data for a one name study. As it is not designed really for this type of study which initially at least throws up a lot of unlinked individuals I find myself constantly having to redefine the root person to get to their record. It would be good If I could set up a shortcut or function key allowing me to redefine root directly from the individuals list without going via a seperate menu. Is this possible?

John


Re: User Defined shortcuts

Brian Horridge
 

John

I use Autohotkey for both FH as well as when typing into excel spreadsheets for my own ONS.

Brian

On 02/07/2020 11:34, johnfirr via groups.io wrote:
is it possible to set up user defined shortcut keys in FH? As well as for family history I am using FH to record master data for a one name study. As it is not designed really for this type of study which initially at least throws up a lot of unlinked individuals I find myself constantly having to redefine the root person to get to their record. It would be good If I could set up a shortcut or function key allowing me to redefine root directly from the individuals list without going via a seperate menu. Is this possible?

John

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Re: Citation Media

Jane Taubman
 


On Thu, 2 Jul 2020 at 12:53, Keith Taylor <keithatserendib@...> wrote:
So is it possible to access Citation Media programmatically? I can't see a way to do so.

Were you looking for the Data Reference, for example?
%INDI.BIRT[1].SOUR[1].OBJE[1]>%
Gives you a citation media object and

%INDI.BIRT[1].SOUR[1]>OBJE[1]>%

Gives you a source level media object.  Note the > which moves you to the record.

If you have not read the Data Reference help it's worth checking out

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Citation Media

Keith Taylor
 

I have about 8000 images in my Media folder. Many of them seem to have come from a merge 4 or 5 years ago of my FTM tree into FH. They're mostly images of baptism, marriage, burial records etc.

I'm currently looking at a burial event in an individual's All tab. If I open the Source sub-tree there is a multimedia object there as a child of the source item but it doesn't exist as a child item if I go and look at the source record itself. In the Show Sources panel, clicking on images reveals the image to be 'Citation Media'. There is another option, Source Record Media, which DOES appear as a child of the source.

So is it possible to access Citation Media programmatically? I can't see a way to do so.

K


Re: User Defined shortcuts

colevalleygirl@colevalleygirl.co.uk
 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of johnfirr via groups.io
Sent: 02 July 2020 11:34
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: [family-historian] User Defined shortcuts

 

is it possible to set up user defined shortcut keys in FH? As well as for family history I am using FH to record master data for a one name study. As it is not designed really for this type of study which initially at least throws up a lot of unlinked individuals I find myself constantly having to redefine the root person to get to their record. It would be good If I could set up a shortcut or function key allowing me to redefine root directly from the individuals list without going via a seperate menu. Is this possible?

John


Re: User Defined shortcuts

Jane Taubman
 

I don't think so, unless you use something like autohotkey.

> I find myself constantly having to redefine the root person to get to their record.
I am not clear why you need to "redefine the root person to get to their record",  you can jump to the Property box or Focus window or anywhere else using the icons at the top and set the double click for the Record list to take you to the Property box and use Named Lists to hold the people whose records you are working with.



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Re: Online Repository Assistant.

Robert
 

Thanks for that BobH, I actually just worked it out another way <[?:Registration Quarter=Q1]Mar><[?:Registration Quarter=Q2]Jun><[?:Registration Quarter=Q3]Sep><[?:Registration Quarter=Q4]Dec>

But your version is a lot neater and efficient, thank you.

Rob

On Thursday, 2 July 2020, 11:36:07 BST, <rmwhunter@...> wrote:


What you need is a conditional expression: something along the lines of :

<[?:Registration Quarter=Q1]March|[?:Registration Quarter=Q2]June|[?:Registration Quarter=Q3]September|[?:Registration Quarter=Q4]December>

Where the whole expression is surrounded by the <> brackets and each part of the expression is divided by the | bar

This expression is asking “if the [Registration Quarter] field is “Q1” then type plain text “March” if not then evaluate the next expression” and so on

BobH

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert via groups.io
Sent: 02 July 2020 10:54
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Online Repository Assistant.

 

This works for one Qtr [Registration Quarter:replace:Q4:Dec], but how do I look for the other three as well?

 

On Thursday, 2 July 2020, 10:17:05 BST, Robert Lund <lundr2001@...> wrote:

 

 

Learnt a bit more more, now my script looks like:

 

{FAST}[Registration Quarter] [Registration Year]{Tab}{DOWN*4}{Tab}[Registration Year] [Registration Quarter] in [District:uppercase] Volume [Volume:lowercase] Page [Page]{Tab}Mother [Mother's Maiden Surname:uppercase]

 

Changed how fast the data is entered into the form, and Changed mother's name and District to all uppercase - this is how I like it. The only thing I'm now stuck on, is changing the Registration Quarter from Q4 to Dec?

 

Output now looks like:

 

Q4 1878

Secondary evidence

1878 Q4 in KENDAL Volume 10b Page 699 (I would prefer it to be 1878 Dec in KENDAL Volume 10b Page 699

Mother SCOTT

 

Hope this helps

Rob

 

On Thursday, 2 July 2020, 09:31:54 BST, Robert via groups.io <lundr2001@...> wrote:

 

 

There is a {PAUSE} key Patricia, that might work.


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On Thursday, July 2, 2020, 09:18, waltonnz <walton.patricia@...> wrote:

Thank you, that's a good idea. But, I think you can stop the auto text and receive a prompt as there's a video from Chris online showing it done.  At least that's what it looks like to me. It doesn't show the template though so I don't know how she does it.

Patricia

 

On Thu, 2 Jul 2020 at 17:25, Robert via groups.io <lundr2001=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

I don’t think that the script allows you pause during execution. I chose the Secondary evidence option because that is what I normally use for this type of entry. If you need to leave it at it’s default of no selection, and enter your own selection after the script has finished, then just take out the {DOWN} instructions.


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On Wednesday, July 1, 2020, 22:27, waltonnz <walton.patricia@...> wrote:

I think I've worked it out. The Registration Quarter and year went into Entry Date, then tab down to Assessment and choose Secondary Evidence, then tab to Where Within Source and enter Registration Year in Reg District Volume and and Page numbers, then tab to Text From Source and enter Mother's maiden name. If I'm right I've just one question. How would you cause the auto type to stop at Assessment and allow you to choose another option? It all sounds very exciting. Thank you for sharing.

Patricia

 

On Thu, 2 Jul 2020 at 06:48, Robert via groups.io <lundr2001=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Just input this Auto Type for GRO Birth Index Source Citation. It works well so far!

 

[Registration Quarter] [Registration Year]{Tab}{DOWN}{DOWN}{DOWN}{DOWN}{Tab}[Registration Year] [Registration Quarter] in [District] Volume [Volume] Page [Page]{Tab}Mother [Mother's Maiden Surname]

 

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User Defined shortcuts

johnfirr@...
 

is it possible to set up user defined shortcut keys in FH? As well as for family history I am using FH to record master data for a one name study. As it is not designed really for this type of study which initially at least throws up a lot of unlinked individuals I find myself constantly having to redefine the root person to get to their record. It would be good If I could set up a shortcut or function key allowing me to redefine root directly from the individuals list without going via a seperate menu. Is this possible?

John


Re: Online Repository Assistant.

Robert
 

This now matches the GRO entry:

[Registration Year] <[?:Registration Quarter=Q1]M|[?:Registration Quarter=Q2]J|[?:Registration Quarter=Q3]S|[?:Registration Quarter=Q4]D> Quarter in [District:uppercase] Volume [Volume] Page [Page]


On Thursday, 2 July 2020, 11:36:07 BST, rmwhunter@... <rmwhunter@...> wrote:


What you need is a conditional expression: something along the lines of :

<[?:Registration Quarter=Q1]March|[?:Registration Quarter=Q2]June|[?:Registration Quarter=Q3]September|[?:Registration Quarter=Q4]December>

Where the whole expression is surrounded by the <> brackets and each part of the expression is divided by the | bar

This expression is asking “if the [Registration Quarter] field is “Q1” then type plain text “March” if not then evaluate the next expression” and so on

BobH

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert via groups.io
Sent: 02 July 2020 10:54
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Online Repository Assistant.

 

This works for one Qtr [Registration Quarter:replace:Q4:Dec], but how do I look for the other three as well?

 

On Thursday, 2 July 2020, 10:17:05 BST, Robert Lund <lundr2001@...> wrote:

 

 

Learnt a bit more more, now my script looks like:

 

{FAST}[Registration Quarter] [Registration Year]{Tab}{DOWN*4}{Tab}[Registration Year] [Registration Quarter] in [District:uppercase] Volume [Volume:lowercase] Page [Page]{Tab}Mother [Mother's Maiden Surname:uppercase]

 

Changed how fast the data is entered into the form, and Changed mother's name and District to all uppercase - this is how I like it. The only thing I'm now stuck on, is changing the Registration Quarter from Q4 to Dec?

 

Output now looks like:

 

Q4 1878

Secondary evidence

1878 Q4 in KENDAL Volume 10b Page 699 (I would prefer it to be 1878 Dec in KENDAL Volume 10b Page 699

Mother SCOTT

 

Hope this helps

Rob

 

On Thursday, 2 July 2020, 09:31:54 BST, Robert via groups.io <lundr2001@...> wrote:

 

 

There is a {PAUSE} key Patricia, that might work.


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On Thursday, July 2, 2020, 09:18, waltonnz <walton.patricia@...> wrote:

Thank you, that's a good idea. But, I think you can stop the auto text and receive a prompt as there's a video from Chris online showing it done.  At least that's what it looks like to me. It doesn't show the template though so I don't know how she does it.

Patricia

 

On Thu, 2 Jul 2020 at 17:25, Robert via groups.io <lundr2001=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

I don’t think that the script allows you pause during execution. I chose the Secondary evidence option because that is what I normally use for this type of entry. If you need to leave it at it’s default of no selection, and enter your own selection after the script has finished, then just take out the {DOWN} instructions.


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On Wednesday, July 1, 2020, 22:27, waltonnz <walton.patricia@...> wrote:

I think I've worked it out. The Registration Quarter and year went into Entry Date, then tab down to Assessment and choose Secondary Evidence, then tab to Where Within Source and enter Registration Year in Reg District Volume and and Page numbers, then tab to Text From Source and enter Mother's maiden name. If I'm right I've just one question. How would you cause the auto type to stop at Assessment and allow you to choose another option? It all sounds very exciting. Thank you for sharing.

Patricia

 

On Thu, 2 Jul 2020 at 06:48, Robert via groups.io <lundr2001=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Just input this Auto Type for GRO Birth Index Source Citation. It works well so far!

 

[Registration Quarter] [Registration Year]{Tab}{DOWN}{DOWN}{DOWN}{DOWN}{Tab}[Registration Year] [Registration Quarter] in [District] Volume [Volume] Page [Page]{Tab}Mother [Mother's Maiden Surname]

 

Robert

 

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Re: Online Repository Assistant.

@BobH1
 

What you need is a conditional expression: something along the lines of :

<[?:Registration Quarter=Q1]March|[?:Registration Quarter=Q2]June|[?:Registration Quarter=Q3]September|[?:Registration Quarter=Q4]December>

Where the whole expression is surrounded by the <> brackets and each part of the expression is divided by the | bar

This expression is asking “if the [Registration Quarter] field is “Q1” then type plain text “March” if not then evaluate the next expression” and so on

BobH

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert via groups.io
Sent: 02 July 2020 10:54
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] Online Repository Assistant.

 

This works for one Qtr [Registration Quarter:replace:Q4:Dec], but how do I look for the other three as well?

 

On Thursday, 2 July 2020, 10:17:05 BST, Robert Lund <lundr2001@...> wrote:

 

 

Learnt a bit more more, now my script looks like:

 

{FAST}[Registration Quarter] [Registration Year]{Tab}{DOWN*4}{Tab}[Registration Year] [Registration Quarter] in [District:uppercase] Volume [Volume:lowercase] Page [Page]{Tab}Mother [Mother's Maiden Surname:uppercase]

 

Changed how fast the data is entered into the form, and Changed mother's name and District to all uppercase - this is how I like it. The only thing I'm now stuck on, is changing the Registration Quarter from Q4 to Dec?

 

Output now looks like:

 

Q4 1878

Secondary evidence

1878 Q4 in KENDAL Volume 10b Page 699 (I would prefer it to be 1878 Dec in KENDAL Volume 10b Page 699

Mother SCOTT

 

Hope this helps

Rob

 

On Thursday, 2 July 2020, 09:31:54 BST, Robert via groups.io <lundr2001@...> wrote:

 

 

There is a {PAUSE} key Patricia, that might work.


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On Thursday, July 2, 2020, 09:18, waltonnz <walton.patricia@...> wrote:

Thank you, that's a good idea. But, I think you can stop the auto text and receive a prompt as there's a video from Chris online showing it done.  At least that's what it looks like to me. It doesn't show the template though so I don't know how she does it.

Patricia

 

On Thu, 2 Jul 2020 at 17:25, Robert via groups.io <lundr2001=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

I don’t think that the script allows you pause during execution. I chose the Secondary evidence option because that is what I normally use for this type of entry. If you need to leave it at it’s default of no selection, and enter your own selection after the script has finished, then just take out the {DOWN} instructions.


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad

On Wednesday, July 1, 2020, 22:27, waltonnz <walton.patricia@...> wrote:

I think I've worked it out. The Registration Quarter and year went into Entry Date, then tab down to Assessment and choose Secondary Evidence, then tab to Where Within Source and enter Registration Year in Reg District Volume and and Page numbers, then tab to Text From Source and enter Mother's maiden name. If I'm right I've just one question. How would you cause the auto type to stop at Assessment and allow you to choose another option? It all sounds very exciting. Thank you for sharing.

Patricia

 

On Thu, 2 Jul 2020 at 06:48, Robert via groups.io <lundr2001=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Just input this Auto Type for GRO Birth Index Source Citation. It works well so far!

 

[Registration Quarter] [Registration Year]{Tab}{DOWN}{DOWN}{DOWN}{DOWN}{Tab}[Registration Year] [Registration Quarter] in [District] Volume [Volume] Page [Page]{Tab}Mother [Mother's Maiden Surname]

 

Robert

 

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