Bill,

Yes, I have repeated those symptoms, so please can you report them to CP.

 

BTW: The yellow Show Sources button is also inhibited.

 

It does not actually overlay the Property Box but shrinks its width to fit all three panes into the FH main window.

Drag the vertical separator right and the Property Box expands and the Sources For pane shrinks.

 

Mike

I don’t understand why the Sources For (Citation List Pane) window would re-attach itself to the Property Box.

Open the Tools > Preferences > Property Box tab and check that both ‘Preferred Position for Citation List Pane’ options are set to ‘Open in New Window’.

 

Assuming you usually only have two or three Source Citations then make the Sources For (Citation List Pane) window shorter.

i.e. Drag its bottom edge upwards so it does not overlap the Citation window.

There is not much you can do to the Citation window if you want all those Citation-specific fields displayed.

 

Before you close FH, make sure both those windows are open, positioned & sized the way you want them.

Then when FH is reopened, and those windows are opened, they should retain their position & size.

 

BTW: You don’t seem to have Voted for Wish List Ref 534 Preserve all Workspace and Window Characteristics

https://www.fhug.org.uk/wishlist/wldisplay.php?wlwlref=534

 

Mike Tate

 

Debbie,

If you don’t want to click the Text from Source tab to get to the Text from Source fields they can be added to the front tab via the cog menu Customise Citation Window… where Text from Source and Citation Details: Text from Source are predefined items.

Debbie,

That is exactly why I have it floating rather than docked, so that it can be resized to make it shorter and then the citation window can be placed under it so as not to obscure anything.

My layout is retained when FH is closed (by that I mean the sizes and locations are remembered).  The only thing is that the citation list pane and citation window do not appear until you select a fact and click on the icon to show the citation window.

Bill

Thanks Bill. If you have the citation box docked to the right or below the property box then it does automatically open but that means you can’t resize the citation box and you’re left with a huge blank space now that text from source has been moved to a different submenu which is only accessible via an extra click. Your layout is much better but what is needed is the ability to retain the layout when FH is closed. I see Mike has mentioned that there is wish list item for this facility so I’ve added my vote to the list.

 

Debbie

 

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of BillH
Sent: 30 May 2021 23:53
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] "Citation Specific Details" Box

 

Debbie,

No.  When opening Family Historian it isn't open until I select a field that does have a citation.  What I do is click on the field and then click on the yellow scroll icon in the property box.  This opens the citation list pane.  I then select a citation and click on the icon with the yellow scroll and pencil at the bottom of the citation list pane which opens the citation window.  Sometimes one or both will disappear when I do different things in FH, but I can always get them back by doing one of both of these things.  I just like this layout rather than having the citation window floating over the focus window or property box which obscures too much for my taste.

Bill

On May 30 2021, at 03:35 PM Debbie Kennett wrote:

Thanks Bill. That’s worked nicely. Have you found a way to keep the source box permanently open rather than having to click on it every time you start work?

 

Debbie

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of BillH
Sent: 30 May 2021 21:58
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] "Citation Specific Details" Box

 

Debbie,

In Preferences select Property Box and half way down is "Preferred Position for Citation List Pane".  Set those options to "Open in New Window".

The Citation List Pane is the actual name of the Sources for window.

Bill

On May 30 2021, at 10:12 AM Debbie Kennett wrote:

Bill

 

I like the look of your layout.

 

How did you manage to get “Sources for…” box to be a floating window?

 

Debbie

Thanks Bill. If you have the citation box docked to the right or below the property box then it does automatically open but that means you can’t resize the citation box and you’re left with a huge blank space now that text from source has been moved to a different submenu which is only accessible via an extra click. Your layout is much better but what is needed is the ability to retain the layout when FH is closed. I see Mike has mentioned that there is wish list item for this facility so I’ve added my vote to the list.

 

Debbie

 

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of BillH
Sent: 30 May 2021 23:53
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] "Citation Specific Details" Box

 

Debbie,

No.  When opening Family Historian it isn't open until I select a field that does have a citation.  What I do is click on the field and then click on the yellow scroll icon in the property box.  This opens the citation list pane.  I then select a citation and click on the icon with the yellow scroll and pencil at the bottom of the citation list pane which opens the citation window.  Sometimes one or both will disappear when I do different things in FH, but I can always get them back by doing one of both of these things.  I just like this layout rather than having the citation window floating over the focus window or property box which obscures too much for my taste.

Bill

On May 30 2021, at 03:35 PM Debbie Kennett wrote:

Thanks Bill. That’s worked nicely. Have you found a way to keep the source box permanently open rather than having to click on it every time you start work?

 

Debbie

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of BillH
Sent: 30 May 2021 21:58
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] "Citation Specific Details" Box

 

Debbie,

In Preferences select Property Box and half way down is "Preferred Position for Citation List Pane".  Set those options to "Open in New Window".

The Citation List Pane is the actual name of the Sources for window.

Bill

On May 30 2021, at 10:12 AM Debbie Kennett wrote:

Bill

 

I like the look of your layout.

 

How did you manage to get “Sources for…” box to be a floating window?

 

Debbie

Debbie,

No.  When opening Family Historian it isn't open until I select a field that does have a citation.  What I do is click on the field and then click on the yellow scroll icon in the property box.  This opens the citation list pane.  I then select a citation and click on the icon with the yellow scroll and pencil at the bottom of the citation list pane which opens the citation window.  Sometimes one or both will disappear when I do different things in FH, but I can always get them back by doing one of both of these things.  I just like this layout rather than having the citation window floating over the focus window or property box which obscures too much for my taste.

Bill

Thanks Bill. That’s worked nicely. Have you found a way to keep the source box permanently open rather than having to click on it every time you start work?

 

Debbie

 

From: family-historian@groups.io <family-historian@groups.io> On Behalf Of BillH
Sent: 30 May 2021 21:58
To: family-historian@groups.io
Subject: Re: [family-historian] "Citation Specific Details" Box

 

Debbie,

In Preferences select Property Box and half way down is "Preferred Position for Citation List Pane".  Set those options to "Open in New Window".

The Citation List Pane is the actual name of the Sources for window.

Bill

On May 30 2021, at 10:12 AM Debbie Kennett wrote:

Bill

 

I like the look of your layout.

 

How did you manage to get “Sources for…” box to be a floating window?

 

Debbie

Mike, postings are getting approved much more quickly now; another admin may have been added.

But you may have to wait some time between postings here as the admins must manually approve the attached images.

James, you can post screenshots here if you’d rather keep the conversation in one place.

But you may have to wait some time between postings here as the admins must manually approve the attached images.

James, you can post screenshots here if you’d rather keep the conversation in one place.

James, you can post screenshots here if you’d rather keep the conversation in one place.