Re: Standard Diagrams - All Descendants

Lorna Craig


There are a few things you can do:

1. Rather than move Luke George to the right (which might cause other parts of the main diagram to shift in odd ways at the same time), move the children of Johanna and John to the left.  You can do this by opening the Movement Control Box and selecting Box and Bar move.  You will then be able to 'grab' the bar above the children (Peter and Kirsten Hanson) and drag it to the left.   This should give enough room to overlay the two Johanna boxes.

2.  Once you have overlaid the two Johanna boxes, right-click on any of the boxes in the inserted tree and choose Order > Send to Back.  this will put the purple Johanna box behind the yellow one so that the visible box is the same colour as the others in her row.

3. In Diagram Options, main tab, Sundry Colours, choose Marked Boxes (top of the list) and select the same pale yellow colour.  Click OK.   Now in the diagram right-click on John Hanson's box and select Mark.  His box should now be the same colour as Johanna's.  (I don't think you can also make their children's boxes the same colour as Luke's box unfortunately.)

The resulting diagram will have the date of Johanna's marriage to John in John's box, and the date of her marriage to George in her own box.  I don't think there is an easy way of getting both her marriages to show in one box in this scenario.

Once you have arranged things, use Diagram >Save Diagram as > Family Historian Chart, giving it an appropriate name.  The saved chart can then be viewed again later from View > Saved Charts.    You need to be aware that if you make any changes or additions to data which affect the main tree this may cause parts of the tree to move and the inserted tree may no longer be accurately aligned and may ned to be moved again.

I hope this helps.


On 16/09/2020 17:40, Bill Metcalf wrote:



I attach the source of my frustration:


Joanna Leuty married twice – to George Metcalf (192) and John Hanson (498).


I have done as you suggested and inserted John H + Johanna Louise as a couple plus their Descendants.


I now want to join them properly (as married) and also to adjust the layout so that it looks sensible e.g. with m1 & m2 (with dates) for Joanna and also to move Luke George a bit to the right so that I can overlay the two Joanna boxes.


I feel sure that this can be done (and thank you for getting me this far) but I have fallen at the last hurdle!


So, if you can help, I would be most grateful.


Many thanks.




P.S. It would also be nice to respect the generational colour scheme but I can live without that!


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Subject: Re: [family-historian] Standard Diagrams - All Descendants


Which people are duplicated?  Apart from the 'wife', who will have a box in each tree, and for whom you will need to position one box over the other, it should be possible to hide any other duplicated boxes.   Or are these duplicates elsewhere in the diagram, and nothing to do with the inserted tree?

What order do you need the spouses to appear in?

If you can't sort it out, send a message here again and I'll contact you direct.


On 16/09/2020 16:17, Bill Metcalf wrote:


The merging, moving and hiding are OK but I still get duplicates and need to reverse the horizontal order of spouses but without compromising the whole diagram.


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