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4 New Commits:

[espeak-ng:master] By BenTalagan <BenTalagan@...>:
93fbca0e3164: Fixing handling of sequence .' in english (potential acronym+genitive vs simple quote usage of apostrophe)

Modified: src/libespeak-ng/readclause.c
Modified: tests/translate.test


[espeak-ng:master] By BenTalagan <BenTalagan@...>:
608bd41e73fa: Use another var to handle next to next char

Modified: src/libespeak-ng/readclause.c


[espeak-ng:master] By BenTalagan <BenTalagan@...>:
0d37ecbf945f: Added additional tests in translate.c

Modified: src/libespeak-ng/translate.c


[espeak-ng:master] By Reece H. Dunn <msclrhd@...>:
d36d3bd197f3: Merge remote-tracking branch 'BenTalagan/fix/genitive_on_acronym'

Modified: src/libespeak-ng/readclause.c
Modified: src/libespeak-ng/translate.c
Modified: tests/translate.test


[espeak-ng/espeak-ng] Pull request closed by rhdunn:

#746 Fixing handling of sequence .' in english

Hello, this is kind of a bug I've referenced here : #741 .

The handling of the sequence .'does not seem totally optimal to me, since a lot of people use the apostrophe character as a simple quote ; espeak considers that this sequence is an acronym followed by a genitive (ex: u.s.a.'s) and thus prevents the last dot from being used as a clause end, which is annoying in a quoted context : He said 'I am back.' and left would trigger the pronunciation of dot after back.

But this can be easily disambiguated if testing the character after the apostrophe.


[espeak-ng:master] New Issue Created by afarlie:
#753 Reintegrate Code for Supporting Legacy platforms?

Can the sources for https://sourceforge.net/projects/mseuniverse/files/eSpeakNG/win32/ Be reintegrated into the code base? (Assuming someone has a suitable build environment.)


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[espeak-ng:master] New Comment on Pull Request #754 Cherokee language improvements.
By valdisvi:

Thanks, @michael-conrad I merged it into project. Note, that I merged your pull request as single commit, because not all your commit messages highlighted actual changes, and because of entangled interim merges between your commits and master tree of the project made unnecessary branches, which could make search for regressions with bisecting much harder.


[espeak-ng/espeak-ng] Pull request closed by valdisvi:

#754 Cherokee language improvements.

Misc Cherokee language improvements.


[espeak-ng:master] New Comment on Pull Request #754 Cherokee language improvements.
By michael-conrad:

What is a good way to prevent that pull push merge weirdness? When I merged back into my branch it was all crazy with push pull merge steps.

On Sat, May 16, 2020, 9:16 AM Valdis Vitolins notifications@... wrote:

Thanks, @michael-conrad https://github.com/michael-conrad I merged it into project. Note, that I merged your pull request as single commit, because not all your commit messages highlighted actual changes, and because of entangled interim merges between your commits and master tree of the project made unnecessary branches, which could make search for regressions with bisecting much harder.

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[espeak-ng:master] New Comment on Issue #583 Sequence of punctuation signs handling
By BenTalagan:

The specific cases given here are fixed by #747. So closing this issue, and let other people reopen similar ones if different punctuation handling cases emerge. As stated in #747, this may need a rewrite anyway with a different tokenization algorithm (see #369, #368, #199, #366) .


[espeak-ng:master] Issue #583 Sequence of punctuation signs handling closed by BenTalagan.


[espeak-ng:master] New Issue Created by Giovani93:
#755 Bad pronunciation of S in Vietnamese

I have noticed, that S is badly pronounced in Vietnamese language in all variants. I don't know, if It is misstake of developer, but for explanation, S must be pronounced in vietnamese, as S retroflex, so something, like Sh.

Here is the link. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voiceless_retroflex_fricative Please, could You fix It? Thank You. Marco Oros


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[espeak-ng:master] New Comment on Issue #755 Bad pronunciation of S in Vietnamese
By valdisvi:

Phoneme s is used for two letters in Vietnamese: s and x. Should it be changed, that s is said as S?


[espeak-ng:master] New Comment on Issue #755 Bad pronunciation of S in Vietnamese
By valdisvi:

Phoneme s is used for two letters in Vietnamese: s and x. Should it be changed, that s is said as S, s., s; or S;?


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[espeak-ng:master] New Comment on Issue #755 Bad pronunciation of S in Vietnamese
By rhdunn:

@valdisvi Looking at wikipedia, initial should always be /s/, while initial varies. Looking at wikipedia [1], this appears to be a difference between historical/archaic Saigon (general Vietnamese?) accents using /s./ (/ʂ/) and modern Saigon (and Hanoi accents) using /s/.

Looking at the vi language files, it is setting ?2 for the Saigon (southern) accent, and ?1 for the Hue (central) accent. The default is for the Hanoi (northern) accent. The Hue accent looks to be a blend of the Hanoi and Saigon accents (which makes sense, as it would have influences from both areas). -- It would be useful to document these differences in a docs/languages/aav/vi.md file like is done for English vowels.

From the definition of the pronunciation for , it looks like the Saigon accent is aiming for a historic/archaic variant so should be /s./. According to wikipedia, this means that it should also be using /t./ (/ʈ/) (e.g. from ph_hindi), but is using the modern /c/ (with Hanoi using /tS/ for the archaic form). Therefore, I don't know what variant the Saigon accent is aiming for.

[1] The wikipedia article compares the Hanoi and Saigon accents w.r.t. the initial sounds. For Saigon, it lists two variants. Reading through the Saigon initials, it looks like those variants are due to historical pronunciations -- for example, it looks like there was a historic split of /j/ (, , ) in Hanoi and Modern Saigon for to /v/. There is also some influence from Middle Vietnamese -- wikipedia states that pronouncing /x/ as [k_h] is common in speakers.


[espeak-ng:master] New Comment on Issue #755 Bad pronunciation of S in Vietnamese
By rhdunn:

@valdisvi Looking at wikipedia, initial <s> should always be /s/, while initial <x> varies. Looking at wikipedia [1], this appears to be a difference between historical/archaic Saigon (general Vietnamese?) accents using /s./ (/ʂ/) and modern Saigon (and Hanoi accents) using /s/.

Looking at the vi language files, it is setting ?2 for the Saigon (southern) accent, and ?1 for the Hue (central) accent. The default is for the Hanoi (northern) accent. The Hue accent looks to be a blend of the Hanoi and Saigon accents (which makes sense, as it would have influences from both areas). -- It would be useful to document these differences in a docs/languages/aav/vi.md file like is done for English vowels.

From the definition of the pronunciation for <v>, it looks like the Saigon accent is aiming for a historic/archaic variant so <s> should be /s./. According to wikipedia, this means that it should also be using /t./ (/ʈ/) (e.g. from ph_hindi), but is using the modern /c/ (with Hanoi using /tS/ for the archaic form). Therefore, I don't know what variant the Saigon accent is aiming for.

[1] The wikipedia article compares the Hanoi and Saigon accents w.r.t. the initial sounds. For Saigon, it lists two variants. Reading through the Saigon initials, it looks like those variants are due to historical pronunciations -- for example, it looks like there was a historic split of /j/ (<v>, <d>, <gl>) in Hanoi and Modern Saigon for <v> to /v/. There is also some influence from Middle Vietnamese -- wikipedia states that pronouncing /x/ as [k_h] is common in speakers.


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[espeak-ng:master] New Comment on Pull Request #754 Cherokee language improvements.
By michael-conrad:

This seems to work to get my master back in sync:

git fetch upstream git reset --hard upstream/master git push -f origin master


[espeak-ng:master] New Comment on Issue #733 [Help Needed] Is there any docs for implementing a custom language?
By nmstoker:

@purringChaos as this answers you question, you ought to close the issue now.

If you run into further problems once you've read those docs then look for similar issues and if none cover your issue then raise another one :slightly_smiling_face: