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[espeak-ng:master] new issue: Voice Chinese (Mandarin): some characters are reported two times #github

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[espeak-ng:master] New Issue Created by surfer0627:
#685 Voice Chinese (Mandarin): some characters are reported two times

Some characters are reported two times, E.G. 汐止區 (reported: 汐止止區)

Steps to reproduce:

  1. Oopen eSpeak NG testing page.
  2. Choose language Chinese (Mandarin).
  3. Test:

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[espeak-ng:master] new issue: espeak-ng-data/lang/tai/shn shouldn't have +x #github

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[espeak-ng:master] New Issue Created by sthibaul:
#684 espeak-ng-data/lang/tai/shn shouldn't have +x

espeak-ng-data/lang/tai/shn currently has +x mode, while it's not a script, it shouldn't have +x.


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[espeak-ng:master] New Issue Created by sthibaul:
#683 1.50 tarball contains symlinks instead of copies of autostuff files

In the 1.50 tarball (https://github.com/espeak-ng/espeak-ng/releases/download/1.50/espeak-ng-1.50.tgz), the INSTALL, compile, config.guess, config.sub, depcomp, install-sh ltmain.sh, and missing files are only symlinks to /usr/share/{automake-1.15,libtool}. They are thus completely useless on a system which does not exactly have these installed.


[espeak-ng:master] New Comment on Issue #683 1.50 tarball contains symlinks instead of copies of autostuff files
By sthibaul:

The tarball even contains config.log, Makefile, etc. These are not really supposed to be included in an upstream tarball. The make dist target of automake should be used instead to produce the release tarballs.


[espeak-ng:master] reported: Added rules for single consonant, pauses and ဢ (?) (Shan) #github

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[espeak-ng:master] New Comment on Pull Request #682 Added rules for single consonant, pauses and ဢ (?) (Shan)
By valdisvi:

Now this pull request is merged in main espeak-ng repository also.


eSpeak NG 1.50 is released

Valdis Vitolins
 

I'm happy to announce that we have released eSpeak NG 1.50!
https://github.com/espeak-ng/espeak-ng/releases/tag/1.50

Many thanks to:

Reece H. Dunn
Eigeldinger Simon
Karl Eick
Ejaz Shah
Anh Hoang Nguyen
Juho Hiltunen
chrislm
Ronald Aug
Christo de Klerk
Min Maung
Anh Hoang Nguyen

and all other contributors of the eSpeak NG project!

Valdis


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5 New Commits:

[espeak-ng:master] By Ronald Aug <saisenfa@...>:
ef24854b6e57: Added rules for single consonant, pauses and ဢ (?)

Modified: dictsource/shn_rules


[espeak-ng:master] By Ronald Aug <saisenfa@...>:
faaf49b153ff: Change ​ေ sound

Modified: dictsource/shn_rules


[espeak-ng:master] By Ronald Aug <saisenfa@...>:
61bbffd0eca1: add rule for ႂ် sound

Modified: dictsource/shn_rules


[espeak-ng:master] By Valdis Vitolins <valdis.vitolins@...>:
b47a75f4e401: eSpeak NG 1.51-dev

Modified: CHANGELOG.md
Modified: android/jni/include/config.h
Modified: configure.ac
Modified: src/windows/config.h


[espeak-ng:master] By Valdis Vitolins <valdis.vitolins@...>:
ca65812ac601: Merge pull request #682

Modified: dictsource/shn_rules


[espeak-ng/espeak-ng] Pull request closed by valdisvi:

#682 Added rules for single consonant, pauses and ဢ (?) (Shan)

Add Rules

  • [x] single component
  • [x] pause characters
  • [x] ဢ (?)


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[espeak-ng:master] New Comment on Pull Request #682 Added rules for single consonant, pauses and ဢ (?) (Shan)
By valdisvi:

I have merged it into my repository and rebuilt it on online test site, but have not pushed it to espeak-ng repository, because I'm waiting for Windows builds for 1.50 release.


[espeak-ng:master] New Comment on Pull Request #682 Added rules for single consonant, pauses and ဢ (?) (Shan)
By valdisvi:

I have merged it into my repository and rebuilt it on online test site, but have not pushed it to espeak-ng repository, because I'm waiting for Windows builds for 1.50 release.


Pull Request Updated #github

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[espeak-ng/espeak-ng] Pull request updated by ronaldaug:

#682 Added rules for single consonant, pauses and ဢ (?) (Shan)

Add Rules

  • [x] single component
  • [x] pause characters
  • [x] ဢ (?)


Pull Request Updated #github

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[espeak-ng/espeak-ng] Pull request updated by ronaldaug:

#682 Added rules for single consonant, pauses and ဢ (?) (Shan)

Add Rules

  • [x] single component
  • [x] pause characters
  • [x] ဢ (?)


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[espeak-ng/espeak-ng] Pull request opened by ronaldaug:

#682 Added rules for single consonant, pauses and ဢ (?)

Add Rules

  • [x] single component
  • [x] pause characters
  • [x] ဢ (?)


[espeak-ng/espeak-ng] Pull request updated by ronaldaug:

#682 Added rules for single consonant, pauses and ဢ (?) (Shan)

Add Rules

  • [x] single component
  • [x] pause characters
  • [x] ဢ (?)


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[espeak-ng] rhdunn pushed new tag 1.50.


[espeak-ng] created new tag 1.50.


[espeak-ng:master] reported: Short pause and independent consonants for Shan #github

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[espeak-ng:master] New Comment on Issue #681 Short pause and independent consonants for Shan
By valdisvi:

Single letters

shn_list file is for pronunciation of words and symbols with simple, exact matching rules. E.g. for English pronunciation of single letters are described in line 33 to 59. E.g. for single :

ၵ   kaa5

But, if you have single letter words, then it is better to describe pronunciation in shn_rules file:

.group ၵ // U+1075
          ၵ       k    // default pronunciation
       _) ၵ (_    kaa5 // single letter word
       ...             // other rules

Currently there is no rule for character. Just add it in shn_list and/or shn_rules file depending on complexity of rules. For example, following rule in shn_rules file:

.group ၶ
    ၶ   khaa5

Pauses

If handling pauses will not require much of different rules, then you can add "no character" group at the end of shn_rules file:

.group // note no character for the group
  ၊  _
  ။  _:

If pause characters may need different pronunciations, depending on position, create another group

.group ၊
  ၊  _   // default rule
  ...    // other rules
.group ။
  ။  _:  // default rule
  ...    // other rules

eSpeak online

If you test it as anonymous user, then you use version build by me, what I do occasionally. Then you can check how old build is by looking on last commit. If you test it as registered user, then you can update your project and rebuild it with new settings yourself as it is described in the guide.


[espeak-ng:master] reported: Short pause and independent consonants for Shan #github

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[espeak-ng:master] New Comment on Issue #681 Short pause and independent consonants for Shan
By valdisvi:

Single letters

shn_list file is for pronunciation of words and symbols with simple, exact matching rules. E.g. for English pronunciation of single letters are described in line 33 to 59. E.g. for single :

ၵ   kaa5

But, if you have single letter words, then it is better to describe pronunciation in shn_rules file:

.group ၵ // U+1075
          ၵ       k    // default pronunciation
       _) ၵ (_    kaa5 // single letter word
       ...             // other rules

Currently there is no rule for character. Just add it in shn_list and/or shn_rules file depending on complexity of rules. For example, following rule in shn_rules file:

.group ၶ
    ၶ   khaa5

Pauses

If handling pauses will not require much of different rules, then you can add "no character" group at the end of shn_rules file:

.group // note no character for the group
  ၊  _
  ။  _:

If pause characters may need different pronunciations, depending on position, create another group

.group ၊
  ၊  _   // default rule
  ...    // other rules
.group ။
  ။  _:  // default rule
  ...    // other rules


Github push to espeak-ng:espeak-ng #github

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1 New Commit:

[espeak-ng:master] By Valdis Vitolins <valdis.vitolins@...>:
b702b03996de: eSpeak NG 1.50

Modified: CHANGELOG.md
Modified: android/jni/include/config.h
Modified: configure.ac
Modified: src/windows/config.h


[espeak-ng:master] reported: Option to keep punctuation signs in IPA output ? #github

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[espeak-ng:master] New Comment on Issue #275 Option to keep punctuation signs in IPA output ?
By nmstoker:

Thanks Ben. It sounds like your pre/post processing is the best option given the difficulties that adapting the internal representation seem to present. I must've overlooked virtual phonemes - it's great that they don't appear to impact the parsing.

As you say, any comment from the maintainers/experts would be welcome :slightly_smiling_face:


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[espeak-ng:master] New Issue Created by arnaudschd:
#678 No voice on Windows10


[espeak-ng:master] Issue #678 No voice on Windows10 closed by arnaudschd.


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[espeak-ng:master] New Issue Created by ronaldaug:
#681 Short pause and independent consonants for Shan

This isn't actually an issue, just a question and request.

1 - Short pauses

I would like to add these pauses characters, but I'm a bit confused. Should I add them into ** shn_list ** or ** shn_rules **? Would be a short break like _ and would be a little long break like _:.

2 - Independent consonant

How can I add a rule for a single consonant without a prefix or suffix? I am worried that it will ruin the original (ka) rule. If it is a single character should sound kaa5 should sound khaa5

3 - Speak online

Could @valdisvi recompile the source on https://odo.lv/Espeak, I tested the Shan language and it seems the sound wasn't updated as a master project?


[espeak-ng:master] New Issue Created by ronaldaug:
#681 Short pause and independent consonants for Shan

This isn't actually an issue, just a question and request.

1 - Short pauses

I would like to add these pauses characters, but I'm a bit confused. Should I add them into shn_list or shn_rules ? Would be a short break like _ and would be a little long break like _:.

2 - Independent consonant

How can I add a rule for a single consonant without a prefix or suffix? I am worried that it will ruin the original (ka) rule. If it is a single character should sound kaa5 should sound khaa5

3 - Speak online

Could @valdisvi recompile the source on https://odo.lv/Espeak? I tested the Shan language and it seems the sound wasn't updated as a master project.


[espeak-ng:master] reported: Option to keep punctuation signs in IPA output ? #github

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[espeak-ng:master] New Comment on Issue #275 Option to keep punctuation signs in IPA output ?
By BenTalagan:

Hi Neil, I had a look at it when opening this issue but it soon looked like a too difficult task for me. IIRC, the problem was that I could not find a way to do it easily with the current architecture : espeak first uses the punctuation to perform a structure analysis and split sentences into chains of clauses and it drops the punctuation at that early stage. Thus, we could mark the clauses as "beginning with that punctuation sign" or "ending with this punctuation sign", but this would not be sufficient because there could be clause-non-affecting punctuation signs in the middle of the clauses. The problem is that keeping those signs would parasite the next stage, where clauses are transcribed into phonemes. Additionally, if you want to keep spaces and carriage returns, it makes things even more difficult.

For my needs, I work in a scripted environment so I have implemented some kind of hacky solution around espeak, with a pre-processor and a post-processor. The pre-processor inserts characters in the input around the punctuation, like tags (using far encoded chars from the unicode like U+F8E0, etc) , and it saves the list of encountered punctuation in an array for later. Additionally, I declare each one of these tag characters in the dictionaries as words, their image as phonemes being themselves, and finally I declare these phonemes in the phoneme files as virtual phonemes, having (again) themselves as an ipa output. That way, these "tags" are carried all along the chain down to the ipa and because they are declared virtual, they do not seem to parasite the clause analysis or the interaction between phonemes. At the end, in the post-processor, I replace back the tags by the original punctuation signs I had saved in an array with the pre-processor.

As I said this is totally ugly (happily there seems to be no vomiting smiley on github).

I couldn't see any other way of doing it with the current architecture, and that's why I've referenced #369 : with a different architecture, a more structured analysis and representation of the input (like a chain of tokens), that would probably be far easier. Seems to me it's quite a lot of work but imho the way to go.

I don't know if it really helps. I'd be happy to have a more accurate opinion from the maintainers too, I'm definitely not at ease with espeak's source code.


[espeak-ng:master] reported: Option to keep punctuation signs in IPA output ? #github

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[espeak-ng:master] New Comment on Issue #275 Option to keep punctuation signs in IPA output ?
By BenTalagan:

Hi Neil, I had a look at it when opening this issue but it soon looked like a too difficult task for me. IIRC, the problem was that I could not find a way to do it easily with the current architecture : espeak first uses the punctuation to perform a structure analysis and split sentences into chains of clauses and it drops the punctuation at that early stage. Thus, we could mark the clauses as "beginning with that punctuation sign" or "ending with this punctuation sign", but this would not be sufficient because there could be clause-non-affecting punctuation signs in the middle of the clauses. The problem is that keeping those signs would parasite the next stage, where clauses are transcribed into phonemes. Additionally, if you want to keep spaces and carriage returns, it makes things even more difficult.

For my needs, I work in a scripted environment so I have implemented some kind of hacky solution around espeak, with a pre-processor and a post-processor. The pre-processor inserts characters in the input around the punctuation, like tags (using far encoded chars from the unicode like U+F8E0, etc) , and it saves the list of encountered tags/punctuation in an array for later. Additionally, I declare each one of these tag characters in the dictionaries as words, their image as phonemes being themselves, and finally I declare these phonemes in the phoneme files as virtual phonemes, having (again) themselves as an ipa output. That way, these "tags" are carried all along the chain down to the ipa and because they are declared virtual, they do not seem to parasite the clause analysis or the interaction between phonemes. At the end, in the post-processor, I replace back the tags by the original punctuation signs I had saved in an array with the pre-processor.

As I said this is totally ugly (happily there seems to be no vomiting smiley on github).

I couldn't see any other way of doing it with the current architecture, and that's why I've referenced #369 : with a different architecture, a more structured analysis and representation of the input (like a chain of tokens), that would probably be far easier. Seems to me it's quite a lot of work but imho the way to go.

I don't know if it really helps. I'd be happy to have a more accurate opinion from the maintainers too, I'm definitely not at ease with espeak's source code.


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[espeak-ng:master] New Comment on Issue #679 A phoneme of a child table is not used if that phoneme is not also defined in its parent table
By BenTalagan:

Thanks for your answer! I think the problem was in the naming of the dict file(s). Since en-test_dict was not compiled at all, espeak-ng would default to en dict. Anyway, I'll do as you advise, I believe now it is a wiser approach.


[espeak-ng:master] New Comment on Issue #679 A phoneme of a child table is not used if that phoneme is not also defined in its parent table
By BenTalagan:

This was not a bug.


[espeak-ng:master] Issue #679 A phoneme of a child table is not used if that phoneme is not also defined in its parent table closed by BenTalagan.


[espeak-ng:master] New Comment on Issue #679 A phoneme of a child table is not used if that phoneme is not also defined in its parent table
By BenTalagan:

This was not a bug (just a misuse).