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David Laycock
 

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Android smartphones

Gordon Haverland
 

I have an Asus Zenfone Laser 2 (which could be known as ZOOT?). The OS
has been updated to Android 6.0.2 I believe. As near as I can tell,
that it too old an OS to be considered secure. This smartphone has
never been connected to a phone network or the Internet.

Once again, I was looking at it, and there doesn't seem to be any
settings available, to get it to save RAW camera images. The only
thing you can get are JPEG.

At some point, JPEG files are typically 8 bit. The RAW image device in
your smartphone could be 10, 12, 14 or ? One of the things the
software of the camera does in saving a file, is to lower the data size
to 8 bits. So, being able to save a RAW image file potentially allows
you to work with better data.


I upgraded the phone OS by downloading images from Asus, so as near as
I can tell the phone is still "legal". One thing I could do (I think),
is to install LineageOS, which would get me Android 9 or Android 10.
Lineage can apparently run the Google Apps, one of which is the camera
(called snap?). Some things I read make it sound like I should be able
to install these GApps, but one source was talking about having
purchased these things from the Play Store or something. I have never
installed any app on this phone, the only thing I did was upgrade OS
images.

I have no idea if I could use this as a phone on the phone network if I
upgrade to Linage. I suspect that if at some point I wanted to install
an app (to take credit cards or similar); I would find that I was not
able to do so because it was no longer Android (or it had been
"rooted").

Oh well, I am not making money yet, so the need to do that is not
pressing.


But, today I ran across an article about installing Debian onto an
Android device, and then putting an Android environment inside the
Debian environment. And all the expected Android stuff could sit
inside this environment. You might find the article interesting.

https://medium.com/@quantvc/running-debian-on-android-device-natively-73545c9b0757

Written in 2016. Parts of it need more explanation I think.

Anyway, if you had comments on the above, that's wonderful.

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Gord

Re: wireless hotspot options for local business

Gordon Haverland
 

On Wed, 16 Oct 2019 13:50:19 -0500
"o1bigtenor" <o1bigtenor@...> wrote:

On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 1:34 PM Gordon Haverland
<ghaverla@...> wrote:

On Wed, 16 Oct 2019 16:56:31 +0000
"joah" <joah_@...> wrote:

Can anyone recommend a wireless hotspot good enough to stream for
our business? Should be under $100 pre month thx
LinuxToday in May of this year, posted a note on Linux wifi
solutions.

https://www.linuxtoday.com/blog/best-open-source-wifi-solutions.html
Most of the offered solutions in said article would seem to be at best
freemium and
at worst fee based services. Some of the initially interesting bits
have been bought
up by companies and are now at least paid services but it seems most
of the freely
distributable software bits are not that way.
I had at one time been looking at the dog thing (but I suspect the name
changed to WifiDog from something else) for the farm. I believe some
restaurant in Montreal was using it as a wifi service.

--

Gord

Re: wireless hotspot options for local business

o1bigtenor
 

On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 1:34 PM Gordon Haverland
<ghaverla@...> wrote:

On Wed, 16 Oct 2019 16:56:31 +0000
"joah" <joah_@...> wrote:

Can anyone recommend a wireless hotspot good enough to stream for our
business? Should be under $100 pre month thx
LinuxToday in May of this year, posted a note on Linux wifi solutions.

https://www.linuxtoday.com/blog/best-open-source-wifi-solutions.html
Most of the offered solutions in said article would seem to be at best
freemium and
at worst fee based services. Some of the initially interesting bits
have been bought
up by companies and are now at least paid services but it seems most
of the freely
distributable software bits are not that way.

Regards

Re: wireless hotspot options for local business

Gordon Haverland
 

On Wed, 16 Oct 2019 16:56:31 +0000
"joah" <joah_@...> wrote:

Can anyone recommend a wireless hotspot good enough to stream for our
business? Should be under $100 pre month thx
LinuxToday in May of this year, posted a note on Linux wifi solutions.

https://www.linuxtoday.com/blog/best-open-source-wifi-solutions.html

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Gord

wireless hotspot options for local business

joah
 

Can anyone recommend a wireless hotspot good enough to stream for our business?  Should be under $100 pre month thx

Re: Smartphone as camera

Gordon Haverland
 

On Fri, 11 Oct 2019 18:16:40 -0700
"Gordon Haverland" <ghaverla@...> wrote:

I have a ZenFone. I believe it came with Android 4.x, it is running
Android 6.0.1; and I think there are no more updates for this.
I looked at everything under the top level settings, and the settings
of Camera, and neither mention anything about RAW or DNG.

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Gord

Smartphone as camera

Gordon Haverland
 

I have a ZenFone. I believe it came with Android 4.x, it is running
Android 6.0.1; and I think there are no more updates for this.

It has no SIM card, and has never been connected to a phone network.

Since it is too old, I suppose I should root the thing and update the
OS. If I ever get to the point where I might need to use it for money
(credit cards, ...) I will probably have to buy a newer thing anyway.

It seems to take good pictures.

I think I can draft it into being a photogrammetric survey instrument.
I have a camera tripod with 1/4 inch bolt. I purchased a smartphone
holder meant to be used with 1/4 inch camera tripod bolt. I purchased
a shiny serving tray at the dollar store, which I want to drill a hole
for the 1/4 inch bolt to go through that will allow me to place a
non-trivial compass on one side (which has a bubble indicator for
level) and can handle magnetic declination adjustments and a GPS on the
other side. While my long term needs and short term needs don't
necessarily need to use the same "monuments"; my intention is to place
monuments into the ground such that a plumb bob hung from the centre of
the camera tripod can be made to fall over the centre of the monument.
I am guessing the monument is something like a piece of rebar that is 3
or more feet long, which is driven into the ground. I could have
different versions of monuments.

But, my immediate needs is to be able to take a series of "photographs"
from locations (very) near my property line with neighbours. I can put
two of the tripod legs (not extended as much) on the property line and
the 3rd leg away from the property line with leg extended further.
Maybe I need to stick a weight on the 3rd leg? Detail.

I have only taken a small number of images with this Zenfone. It
produces much better images than my Nokia candybar which has a SIM
card. I think the images I downloaded (1 or 2?) were JPEG. It may be
that it also stores RAW images; or that it can be adjusted to store RAW
images.

RAW as an image format, is a collection of nominally incompatible and
proprietary image formats. One of those formats is DNG from Adobe;
which has some documentation (probably not all documentation).


Android as a flavour of Linux I know almost nothing about, and the fact
that you (almost) can't have a secure Android phone bugs me. And
manufacturers who make proprietary Android phones bother me.


It's entirely possible there is no way to get DNG files from this
camera, or RAW for that matter.


I've run across a suggestion that DNG is actually a good format to
store sets of images in. If the input files are actually "raw" and
have all the information that the camera can provide; that is the best
solution. If all you can get is JPEG files, when you convert to DNG
(if that is possible) you will not get as good as you could.


Anyone have feelings or knowledge about this Asus phone and DNG? Do
you use DNG format?

Thanks for any comments you might have.

--

Gord

Re: HandBrake and subtitles

John Hanley
 

I had hoped to modify the font size before it is built in, but I can't find any simple way to do that using Handbrake.

I tried having Handbrake save to .mkv format rather than .mp4, as I believe .mkv allows for subtitle passthrough. However, I can't seem to get Plex to play the .mkv file.

Any ideas on how to do that?


My other suggestion is to abandon Handbrake altogether and play the .ts file directly through Plex. Plex will transcode it no problem, however if I am streaming it over Wifi (Chromecast), the file (I think) buffers too often. If I play it over Plex server on my DVD Smart menu which is ethernet, it plays perfectly. That is a nice solution, however, my DVD player functionality is limited and the fast forward doesn't work properly.

So is there a cheap hard-wired player that would work well?

Or is there a way to optimize the Plex transcoder so that it plays back more smoothly?

Thanks!

John



On 2019-10-08 10:12 p.m., Rick Forges wrote:
I think once the video is downloaded  it's burned in.  The only thing I see that can be done is to rip  it without subtitles . But I wonder if you can d/l the subtitle file separately and add it after.  Seems I've seen that file available in handbrake. 


On Thu, Oct 3, 2019, 10:08 PM John Hanley, <linux@...> wrote:
I am encoding raw video into mp4 using HandBrakeCLI. The subtitles are
there and they are HUGE. I can't find a good resource to show me how to
adjust the size at the command line or to just allow for a passthrough.
It looks as though they are burned in.

The help doc isn't very clear.

Anyone have any ideas?

Many thanks!

John





Re: HandBrake and subtitles

Rick Forges
 

I think once the video is downloaded  it's burned in.  The only thing I see that can be done is to rip  it without subtitles . But I wonder if you can d/l the subtitle file separately and add it after.  Seems I've seen that file available in handbrake. 


On Thu, Oct 3, 2019, 10:08 PM John Hanley, <linux@...> wrote:
I am encoding raw video into mp4 using HandBrakeCLI. The subtitles are
there and they are HUGE. I can't find a good resource to show me how to
adjust the size at the command line or to just allow for a passthrough.
It looks as though they are burned in.

The help doc isn't very clear.

Anyone have any ideas?

Many thanks!

John





Re: Anyone have a spare laptop?

Rick Forges
 

Yup I still have it. How do you want to meet up with you. 


On Sun, Oct 6, 2019, 2:08 PM joah, <joah_@...> wrote:
I think we would like this if it's still avail?

Thanks,

From: elug@groups.io <elug@groups.io> on behalf of Rick Forges <canuckbeemer@...>
Sent: September 27, 2019 4:46 PM
To: elug@groups.io <elug@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [elug] Anyone have a spare laptop?
 
I have an old lenovo E6410 and just put on Linux Mint Mate on it for $150 ?

On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 10:43 PM joah <joah_@...> wrote:
Just reaching out for a young friend who is on income support.  maybe a bit of cash $100-$300 budget, no biggie if no

Thanks,

Re: Nokia 4.2 Android 9 issue

Hank Quinlan
 

you might try posting on reddit.com/r/nokia




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On Tuesday, October 8, 2019 2:16 PM, John Hanley <linux@...> wrote:

We bought a Nokia 4.2 and have had such a hard time setting it up. Nokia
technical support is basically useless (online chat only and they can't
seem to find the most basic things).

We are with Lucky Mobile and this new phone won't connect for data. My
thought is it's the APN settings. However, when going into Settings and
getting to APNs, there is NO way to add APNs. There are none listed and
the error I get is "Access Point Names not available for this user."
Lucky Mobile support says there should be a "+" sign to add them. There
isn't. They say it must be a hardware issue. Nokia technical support
can't even get that far.

This phone is still fairly new to the market. I don't know if that has
anything to do with the lack of knowledge on this phone. Could this be
an Android 9 bug?

There's got to be a way to adjust APN settings. Does this ring a bell
with anyone?

Any help greatly appreciated!

John

Nokia 4.2 Android 9 issue

John Hanley
 

We bought a Nokia 4.2 and have had such a hard time setting it up. Nokia technical support is basically useless (online chat only and they can't seem to find the most basic things).

We are with Lucky Mobile and this new phone won't connect for data. My thought is it's the APN settings. However, when going into Settings and getting to APNs, there is NO way to add APNs. There are none listed and the error I get is "Access Point Names not available for this user." Lucky Mobile support says there should be a "+" sign to add them. There isn't. They say it must be a hardware issue. Nokia technical support can't even get that far.

This phone is still fairly new to the market. I don't know if that has anything to do with the lack of knowledge on this phone. Could this be an Android 9 bug?

There's got to be a way to adjust APN settings. Does this ring a bell with anyone?

Any help greatly appreciated!

John

Re: spare ddr3

joah
 

Yes thank you can we pickup this evening?


From: elug@groups.io <elug@groups.io> on behalf of lean909 via Groups.Io <lean909@...>
Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2019 3:45:22 PM
To: elug@groups.io <elug@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [elug] spare ddr3
 
I have spare 2x2GB + 2x1GB if that helps at all...
Robert

Re: spare ddr3

lean909@...
 

I have spare 2x2GB + 2x1GB if that helps at all...
Robert

spare ddr3

joah
 

Anyone have some spare ddr3 I am building a computer for a friend who is on assisted living and need 2 sticks of 4gi.

Joah,

Re: Anyone have a spare laptop?

joah
 

I think we would like this if it's still avail?

Thanks,


From: elug@groups.io <elug@groups.io> on behalf of Rick Forges <canuckbeemer@...>
Sent: September 27, 2019 4:46 PM
To: elug@groups.io <elug@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [elug] Anyone have a spare laptop?
 
I have an old lenovo E6410 and just put on Linux Mint Mate on it for $150 ?

On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 10:43 PM joah <joah_@...> wrote:
Just reaching out for a young friend who is on income support.  maybe a bit of cash $100-$300 budget, no biggie if no

Thanks,

HandBrake and subtitles

John Hanley
 

I am encoding raw video into mp4 using HandBrakeCLI. The subtitles are there and they are HUGE. I can't find a good resource to show me how to adjust the size at the command line or to just allow for a passthrough. It looks as though they are burned in.

The help doc isn't very clear.

Anyone have any ideas?

Many thanks!

John

Setting up Nokia 4.2 - setup wizard issue

John Hanley
 

We just got a new Nokia 4.2 and are setting up the phone. When the setup wizard comes to Google Assistant it tells us "The Google Assistant needs Activity Control that your device administrator has limited on this account."

When I look in my Admin account as suggested in the wizard's help menu, I see that Search and Assist is turned on for everyone. When I went to the user account, under Activity Control I turned on Web and App Activity. However, "Include Chrome history..." and "Include voice and audio recordings" are both greyed out (with the footnote that they are currently unavailable for this account).

The wizard will NOT allow us to go beyond this point. We have tried switching accounts and we have tried factory reset. Basically the phone is unusable because we can't get past this part of the wizard.

There is no way to skip setting up Google Assistant (I never used it on my old phone anyway).

Does anyone know how to rectify this?

Thanks!

John

Re: Regarding Rene Matthijssen

Roger Walker
 

I would like to suggest that you pass on best wishes from the entire group. Many may not know Rene, but I would think that there are few, if any, who don’t know of him. For those who did know him, it’s clear that he wasn’t everyone’s cup of tea. However, no one can deny that he had opinions, and wasn’t afraid to voice them, and his contributions have likely helped most of us at one time or another. I believe Rene has the attitude to carry on - it’s not the circumstances, but what you do about them that makes you...


Roger Walker MMT RMT