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REU - DSC Logs from Warrington, UK 20190114

Brian Martlew <brian.martlew@...>
 

Hi All,

Logs from the last week.

73,
Brian G1NXS

Listening Report for Brian Martlew, G1NXS
Listening Location: Warrington, UK, IO83rk
All entries sorted by Station ID in Ascending order
Report Generated On Jan 14, 2019 at 07:53 UTC
Equipment
Receiver(s): Perseus + SDR Console V3
Antenna(s): ALA100 aligned NW-SE
Software: YaDD
__________________________________________________________________________________________
YYYYMMDD UTC   kHz     Call      km    Location
__________________________________________________________________________________________
20190107 13:07 2187.5  002050480 453   Ostende Radio, Belgium
20190107 13:19 2187.5  002111240 754   Bremen Radio, Germany
20190107 12:45 2187.5  002191000 726   Lyngby Radio, Denmark
20190107 16:03 2187.5  002241022 1201  Coruna Radio, Spain
20190107 16:19 2187.5  002241024 1642  Valencia Radio, Spain
20190107 15:44 2187.5  002241026 3048  Las Palmas Radio, Canary Islands
20190109 07:03 2187.5  002275000 642   CROSS Etel, France
20190107 15:14 2187.5  002275100 399   CROSS Gris Nez, France
20190107 13:11 2187.5  002275200 418   CROSS Jobourg, France
20190107 18:03 2187.5  002275400 1307  CROSS La Garde, France
20190108 20:49 2187.5  002301000 1548  Mariehamm Radio, Finland
20190111 23:30 2187.5  002302000 1826  Helsinki Radio, Finland
20190107 14:28 2187.5  002311000 985   Torshavn Radio, Faroe Islands
20190107 13:02 2187.5  002320001 793   Shetland Coastguard, Shetland Islands
20190107 13:04 2187.5  002320004 413   Aberdeen Coastguard, Scotland
20190109 00:17 2187.5  002320007 195   Humber Coastguard, England
20190111 10:49 2187.5  002320009 312   Thames Coastguard, England
20190107 13:31 2187.5  002320010 366   Dover Coastguard, England
20190112 02:01 2187.5  002320011 339   Solent Coastguard, England
20190107 12:47 2187.5  002320014 467   Falmouth Coastguard, England
20190109 00:32 2187.5  002320017 263   Milford Haven Coastguard, Wales
20190109 04:38 2187.5  002320018 139   Holyhead Coastguard, England
20190107 15:24 2187.5  002320021 246   Belfast Coastguard, Northern Ireland
20190111 10:37 2187.5  002320024 608   Stornoway Coastguard, Scotland
20190108 22:29 2187.5  002371000 2544  Olympia Radio, Greece
20190107 12:47 2187.5  002442000 479   Netherlands CG Radio, Holland
20190108 22:06 2187.5  002470002 2078  Palermo Radio, Italy
20190111 23:52 2187.5  002470120 2260  Augusta Radio, Italy
20190107 12:46 2187.5  002470123 1655  Civitavecchia Radio, Italy
20190108 22:58 2187.5  002470124 2079  Crotone Radio, Italy
20190112 05:34 2187.5  002470128 2102  Mazara del Vallo Radio, Italy
20190111 16:45 2187.5  002500100 378   Malin Head Radio, Ireland
20190107 15:44 2187.5  002500200 552   Valentia Radio, Ireland
20190107 17:06 2187.5  002510100 1613  Reykjavik Radio, Iceland
20190107 13:04 2187.5  002570000       Norwegian Coastal Radio, Norway
20190111 14:17 2187.5  002570100 1044  Tjome radiio, Norway
20190107 15:58 2187.5  002570300 768   Rogaland Radio, Norway
20190110 10:13 2187.5  002570500 1011  Floro Radio, Norway
20190109 03:26 2187.5  002570700 1785  Bodo Radio, Norway
20190112 07:34 2187.5  002570800 2515  Vardo Radio, Norway
20190108 22:11 2187.5  002610210 1247  Witowo Radio, Poland
20190107 18:21 2187.5  002630100 1719  MRCC Lisboa, Portugal
20190108 21:06 2187.5  002652000 1110  Stockholm Radio, Sweden
20190107 12:54 2187.5  002653000 1014  Goteborg Radio, Sweden
20190108 22:50 2187.5  002711000 2710  Istanbul Radio, Turkey
20190111 20:56 2187.5  002712000 3157  Samsun Radio, Turkey
20190112 03:45 2187.5  002713000 3312  Antalya Radio, Turkey
20190112 02:07 2187.5  002733700 2041  St Petersburg Radio, Russia
20190111 17:03 2187.5  002734411 3047  Novorossiysk Radio, Russia
20190108 21:33 2187.5  002734414 2690  Arkhangelsk Radio, Russia
20190111 17:26 2187.5  002734417 1517  Kaliningrad Radio, Kaliningrad
20190111 19:57 2187.5  002734419 3624  Astrakhan Radio, Russia
20190111 17:03 2187.5  002734446 2951  Taman Radio, Russia
20190109 03:08 2187.5  002734487 2983  Taganrog Radio, Russia
20190108 23:40 2187.5  002770330 1539  Klaipeda Rescue Centre, Lithuania
20190112 03:42 2187.5  003061000 7369  Curacao Radio, Netherlands Antilles
20190111 10:30 2187.5  228040600       ANFR Test Donges, France

20190107 10:58 12577.0 002241022 1201  Coruna Radio, Spain
20190107 11:31 12577.0 002371000 2544  Olympia Radio, Greece
20190107 10:30 12577.0 002711000 2522  Istanbul Radio, Turkey
__________________________________________________________________________________________
60 stations in total
Output Generated By WWSU 6.4 (2013, Alex Wiecek  VE3GOP, http://www.ve3gop.com)

DX 474.2 KHz

Vincent LECLER
 

Hi all,

Heard last night on 474.2 KHz JT9 mode:

0352 -28  0.2 1381 @  CQ DE NC0B DN70
0416 -28  0.4 1361 @  CQ DE NC0B DN70
0431 -26  0.4 1361 @  W1XP NC0B DN70
0433 -25  0.4 1361 @  W1XP NC0B DN70
0435 -27  0.4 1281 @  W1XP NC0B R-24
0437 -27  0.4 1282 @  W1XP NC0B RR73

--
73's
Vincent Lecler F5OIH
JN06CI
REF43551
EPC:23954/30MDG:7083/DMC:7677/FeldHell:5248/BDM:4704/ERC:2359
QSL via Buro,EQSL and LOTW

REU DSC logs

peter
 

Hi all,

Recent DSC logs.

Session Report for Peter Conway, G3UFI
Listening Location: Hastings UK, JO00gv (50°52'54"N   000°34'40"E)
Report Created On Jan 13, 2019
Receiver(s): WiNRADiO 313i/R1000/RSP1A/Spyverter
Antenna(s): ALA100M/ALA1530 Loops/Dipoles/Discone
Software: Multipsk 4.33 + other software
Report Sorted by Freq in Ascending order, Frequency Range 100.00 - 156525.00 kHz
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
YYYY-MM-DD UTC    kHz     Call       km    New Location
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2019-01-12 21:09 2177.0   002241024  1350      Valencia Radio, ESP
2019-01-11 10:44 2177.0   228040600  439       Test ANFR SR Donges, FRA
2019-01-12 02:03 2187.5   002733700  2042      Saint Petersburg Radio, RUS
2019-01-12 05:24 2187.5   002510100  1967      Reykjavik Radio, ISL
2019-01-12 00:20 2187.5   002311000  1317      Torshavn Radio, FRO
2019-01-12 07:34 2187.5   002570700  1974      Bodoe Radio, NOR
2019-01-12 03:06 2187.5   002630100  1562      Lisboa Radio, POR
2019-01-12 07:34 2187.5   002570800  2672      Vardo Radio, NOR
2019-01-12 19:12 2187.5   002734487  2796      Taganrog Radio, RUS
2019-01-12 01:08 2187.5   003061000  7523      Curacao Radio, ATN
2019-01-12 06:21 4207.5   003669991  5346      Boston Radio, MA, USA
2019-01-12 02:19 6312.0   003669995  6057      Portsmouth Radio, VA, USA
2019-01-12 01:00 6312.0   005671000  9529      Bangkok Radio, THA
2019-01-12 00:24 6312.0   006221111  3253      Alexandria Radio, EGY
2019-01-12 06:22 8414.5   002091000  3149      Cyprus Radio, CYP
2019-01-12 14:41 8414.5   005030001  14978     Charleville/Wilun R, AT, AUS
2019-01-12 00:37 8414.5   005741040  9290      Hai Phong Radio, VTN
2019-01-12 00:04 8414.5   006010001  9567      Cape Town Radio, AFS
2019-01-12 03:29 8414.5   007100001  9289      Rio de Janerio Radio, BRA
2019-01-12 00:57 8414.5   007100002  7388      Recife Radio, BRA
2019-01-12 13:36 12577.0  002711000  2223      Istanbul Radio, TUR
2019-01-12 10:03 16804.5  002711000  2223      Istanbul Radio, TUR
2019-01-12 02:43  156525  002320014  406       Falmouth Radio, ENG
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Output Generated By WWSU 6.4 (2013, Alex Wiecek - VE3GOP, http://www.ve3gop.com)
23 stations logged during this Session (0 new)
Total number of DSC stations logged   -   720

73,

Peter    g3ufi


Virus-free. www.avast.com

Re: Database Anomaly

Richard Ware
 

On Sun, 13 Jan 2019 at 10:21, John Pumford-Green <gm4slv@...> wrote:

I haven't been keeping up to date with recent activity, and might have
missed other discoveries of land-based ship-station-MMSI "specials". If
any more have come to light, beyond those in the list above, can you let
me know, and I'll add them to YaDDNet.
----------------

As usual, thanks for the comprehensive answer to David's query John,
and thanks for all the work you do behind the scenes

Regarding 'specials'. I haven't logged any new ones recently as I'm
VHF-only for the time being but here are a few French Signal Stations
which are shown as UNID but, thanks to Peter's logs, can be identified
thus

002288198 Saint-Cast Signal Station
002288218 La Heve (Le Havre?) Signal Station
002288201 Ploumanc'h Signal Station
002288222 Boulogne Signal Station

It doesn't take much for these to manifest themselves on Ch70 (and
ch16) down here in the South when 'there's a bit of a lift on'

Cheers
Rich

Re: Database Anomaly

david
 

John,

Thank you for the detailed response (and for making the changes).
It is clear, once again, that we rely very heavily on you to keep things in order. I know I am not alone in repeating the offer to share any of the workload if you think it is possible.
I have kept your explanation of how the YaDDNet side of things works, and also your list of 'specials'. It seems I have a few to find.
I'm sorry if I ask too many questions of the List, but every week I learn more and more about the design and implementation of DSC. If only the two would keep in step!

Best Wishes
David

-----Original Message-----
From: dsc-list@groups.io <dsc-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of John Pumford-Green
Sent: 13 January 2019 10:21
To: dsc-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [dsc-list] Database Anomaly

Hello all,

Sorry for not replying sooner, I don't check the messages very often
these days!

It looks as though a typo crept in to YaDDNEt when I was adding Vestfold
to the list of "specials" and I accidentally used the same callsign,
LJ2B, for both Vestfold and Karmsund.

I've corrected the coast station name for Vestfold:

Vestfold College LJ2P

this means all new reports of MMSI : 258999039 will be given the correct
name/callsign.

and also done a correction on all existing records in the main database
so that all old reports are also now correct.

<big snip>

We "collect" MMSIs.

We like to give these MMSIs a more "human" name, to give us a sense of
the source of the signal, but the MMSI is the only thing we really have.


Cheers,

John

Re: Database Anomaly

John Pumford-Green
 

Hello all,

Sorry for not replying sooner, I don't check the messages very often these days!

It looks as though a typo crept in to YaDDNEt when I was adding Vestfold to the list of "specials" and I accidentally used the same callsign, LJ2B, for both Vestfold and Karmsund.

I've corrected the coast station name for Vestfold:

Vestfold College LJ2P

this means all new reports of MMSI : 258999039 will be given the correct name/callsign.

and also done a correction on all existing records in the main database so that all old reports are also now correct.


The mechanism for giving names to Coast Stations in YaDDNEt is:

YaDD sends each DSC message across the internet in a simple format:

[IO75-02];2187.5;SEL;477192100;SAF;002320004;TEST;NOINF;--;--;ACK;ECC 115 OK

Only the MMSI is sent from YaDD to YaDDNEt.

This allows each individual user to edit their own local Coast Name file in their copy of YaDD, to suit themselves, without impacting on how the Coast Stations are displayed in YaDDNet.

Each incoming message is inspected to pick out the TO and FROM MMSIs.

Normally a Coast Station is detected by the first two MMSI characters being zero... and Ships are all other stations, where the first two characters are NOT zero.

Unfortunately there are now many land-based stations that use non-coast station MMSI, and we have agreed to treat these as Coast Stations.

I now have to test:

is it a "Special" coast station (one that uses a Ship MMSI but is listed as a Coast Station)?
is it a "Normal" coast station (one that uses 00xxxxxxx)
is is a "Normal" ship station (all other cases)

I keep one database table with all the "special" coast stations:

+----+-----------+-----------------------------+
| ID | MMSI | COASTNAME |
+----+-----------+-----------------------------+
| 1 | 219015591 | Sailor Examiner XPE3307 |
| 2 | 237673000 | Piraeus JRCC |
| 3 | 237673100 | Piraeus JRCC |
| 4 | 219055000 | Skagen Skipperskole XPA6880 |
| 5 | 228040600 | ANFR Test Donges FIIR |
| 6 | 258999039 | Vestfold College LJ2P |
| 7 | 235899980 | RNLI College Poole |
| 8 | 219000333 | Skaw Star XPB3047 |
| 9 | 258999189 | Serco Test LJ8C |
| 10 | 219000559 | Polaris Aalborg XPC5421 |
| 11 | 219000022 | Procare Test XP8100 |
| 12 | 219016306 | Simac-1 XPE3817 |
| 13 | 219020185 | Simrad Test XPE6606 |
| 14 | 235899982 | RNLI College Poole 2 |
| 15 | 258999089 | Karmsund Vid Skole LJ2B |
| 16 | 258999139 | Kristiansund |
| 17 | 258999209 | TMS-C Tromso LJ3J |
| 18 | 258999229 | Uit/LJ4 |
| 21 | 264999908 | CMU School |
| 22 | 412000412 | Tianjin Seaman School |
| 23 | 219000225 | Slipshavn MHV Skole XP6351 |
+----+-----------+-----------------------------+
21 rows in set (0.01 sec)


This is just used as a quick way of checking a SHIP MMSI against the known list of "special" coast stations.

If the MMSI is found in the "specials" table YaDDNet knows not to treat is as a SHIP, but to treat it as a COAST. It then looks up the Coast Name from the main Coast Station database table, which has all coast stations (normal AND special).


You can see the current Coast Station lookup table represented as a web page:

http://gm4slv.plus.com:8000/pages/php/test/mmsi_coast.php


I'd made a mistake when creating the "special" entries for Vestfold, and somehow gave it the same callsign as Karmsund.

Hopefully this has resolved the problem.

I haven't been keeping up to date with recent activity, and might have missed other discoveries of land-based ship-station-MMSI "specials". If any more have come to light, beyond those in the list above, can you let me know, and I'll add them to YaDDNet.


On the wider subject, of naming coast stations....


Naming of Coast Stations is not a simple matter, especially nowadays, as more and more systems are amalgamated, and networked together. It's impossible in many cases to make a simple correlation between an MMSI and a "Coast Station". Many people have their own valid reasons for assigning specific names to specific MMSIs, but there's not one correct answer, so YaDDNet's names are MY preferred names.

All we really have is the MMSI, and that's really all we can claim to know about the signal. Anything else (name, location etc) is open to conjecture in many cases.

We "collect" MMSIs.

We like to give these MMSIs a more "human" name, to give us a sense of the source of the signal, but the MMSI is the only thing we really have.


Cheers,

John

On 12/01/2019 23:46, david via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi Rich,
You made my point for me. It is the YaDDNet database with the anomaly!
And that matters less to me than finding out what the 'LJ2B' is for, in two notionally separate locations.
BR, David
-----Original Message-----
If I could shove in my two-penny-worth
As a station's name doesn't form part of the DSC message, in theory
there's nothing to stop you calling it anything you want (within
reason, I suppose!) if you keep the info to yourself.
Once you start sharing, that's when problems could occur Whose
database do we use as 'the one we must all adhere to' and why? One
man's 'Sailor Examiner' could well be another man's 'Pandrup Test',
for example.Same MMSI number, different name. My own coast station
database for DSC Decoder shows the UK coastguard stations with their
names plus a simple "CG" suffix, and shore stations using ships' MMSI
numbers have an asterisk at the beginning and end of their names so I
can spot them easily when I'm looking at the DSC decoder screen. A
problem would occur if that was how YADDNet read it as someone else
might well have the same station with a different name, e.g 002320011
is Solent CG to me but it could well Solent COASTGUARD to someone else
and could result in duplicate entries which would take up oodles of
unnecessary space on the server. This duplication doesn't happen as
John has got some trickery installed in the heart of YADDNet to ensure
that irrespective of what your database may say and what gets uploaded
to YADDNet, it will be crunched saved and output to your own RWW
report using the station name from the YADD database, not yours. The
databases my well be the same but this is done just in case they're
not. Clever dot com
I've no idea what happens when my weekly log gets uploaded to REU. I
just 'send and forget' !
As for the LJ2B callsign....PASS !
Cheers
Rich

VHF DSC weekly log from Dorset

Richard Ware
 

Hello folks

This week's Ch70 log.

The RNLI college at Poole is a new one for the log
Holyhead put in its usual weekly appearance at almost the same time as
it did the previous week.
The rest is pretty much of a muchness

20190105 0700 156525.0 002275100 CROSS Gris Nez, France
20190105 0540 156525.0 002275200 CROSS Jobourg, France
20190105 2256 156525.0 002288221 Barfleur Signal Station, France
20190105 0059 156525.0 002320011 Solent Coastguard, United Kingdom
20190105 0059 156525.0 002320012 Portland Coastguard, United Kingdom
20190105 1631 156525.0 002320014 Falmouth Coastguard, United Kingdom
20190105 1620 156525.0 002320017 Milford Haven Coastguard, United Kingdom
20190105 0806 156525.0 002320018 Holyhead Coastguard, United Kingdom
20190110 1423 156525.0 235899980 RNLI College Poole, United Kingdom

Total 156.525MHz : 9

Cheers
Rich
Dorset, UK

Rx: ICOM IC-R6
Decoder: COAA DSC decoder

Re: Database Anomaly

david
 

Hi Rich,

You made my point for me. It is the YaDDNet database with the anomaly!

And that matters less to me than finding out what the 'LJ2B' is for, in two notionally separate locations.

BR, David

-----Original Message-----


If I could shove in my two-penny-worth

As a station's name doesn't form part of the DSC message, in theory
there's nothing to stop you calling it anything you want (within
reason, I suppose!) if you keep the info to yourself.
Once you start sharing, that's when problems could occur Whose
database do we use as 'the one we must all adhere to' and why? One
man's 'Sailor Examiner' could well be another man's 'Pandrup Test',
for example.Same MMSI number, different name. My own coast station
database for DSC Decoder shows the UK coastguard stations with their
names plus a simple "CG" suffix, and shore stations using ships' MMSI
numbers have an asterisk at the beginning and end of their names so I
can spot them easily when I'm looking at the DSC decoder screen. A
problem would occur if that was how YADDNet read it as someone else
might well have the same station with a different name, e.g 002320011
is Solent CG to me but it could well Solent COASTGUARD to someone else
and could result in duplicate entries which would take up oodles of
unnecessary space on the server. This duplication doesn't happen as
John has got some trickery installed in the heart of YADDNet to ensure
that irrespective of what your database may say and what gets uploaded
to YADDNet, it will be crunched saved and output to your own RWW
report using the station name from the YADD database, not yours. The
databases my well be the same but this is done just in case they're
not. Clever dot com

I've no idea what happens when my weekly log gets uploaded to REU. I
just 'send and forget' !

As for the LJ2B callsign....PASS !

Cheers
Rich

REU DSC logs

peter
 

Hi all,

Recent DSC logs. 

Session Report for Peter Conway, G3UFI
Listening Location: Hastings UK, JO00gv (50°52'54"N   000°34'40"E)
Report Created On Jan 12, 2019
Receiver(s): WiNRADiO 313i/R1000/RSP1A/Spyverter
Antenna(s): ALA100M/ALA1530 Loops/Dipoles/Discone
Software: Multipsk 4.33 + other software
Report Sorted by Freq in Ascending order, Frequency Range 100.00 - 156525.00 kHz
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
YYYY-MM-DD UTC    kHz     Call       km    New Location
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2019-01-11 02:42 2177.0   002241026  2909      Las Palmas Radio, CNR
2019-01-11 11:18 2187.5   235899980  181       RNLI College Poole, ENG
2019-01-11 11:52 2187.5   002470125  952       Genova Radio, ITA
2019-01-11 22:26 2187.5   006221113  3390      Port Said Radio, EGY
2019-01-11 03:28 2187.5   003313000  3417      Aasiaat Radio, GRL
2019-01-11 11:54 2187.5   002470002  1738      Palermo Radio, ITA
2019-01-11 05:18 2187.5   004280001  3438      Haifa Radio, ISR
2019-01-11 01:43 2187.5   002302000  1841      Helsinki Radio, FIN
2019-01-11 00:14 2187.5   002570800  2672      Vardo Radio, NOR
2019-01-11 05:04 2187.5   002712000  2906      Samsun Radio, TUR
2019-01-11 05:05 2187.5   002713000  3012      Antalya Radio, TUR
2019-01-11 01:53 2187.5   002734446  2736      Taman Radio, RUS
2019-01-11 06:29 2187.5   002770330  1469      Klaipeda RCC, LTU
2019-01-11 15:23 4207.5   228040600  439       Test ANFR SR Donges, FRA
2019-01-11 02:39 6312.0   002371000  2209      Olympia Radio, GRC
2019-01-11 20:07 6312.0   004122100  9224      Shanghai Radio, CHN
2019-01-11 19:18 6312.0   005030001  14325     Charleville/Wilun R, AT, AUS
2019-01-11 20:06 6312.0   005671000  9529      Bangkok Radio, THA
2019-01-11 20:37 6312.0   005741040  9290      Hai Phong Radio, VTN
2019-01-11 23:56 6312.0   005743030  10241     Ho Chi Minh Ville Radio, VTN
2019-01-11 10:35 8414.5   228040600  439       Test ANFR SR Donges, FRA
2019-01-11 22:53 8414.5   003669995  6057      Portsmouth Radio, VA, USA
2019-01-11 00:04 8414.5   004122100  9224      Shanghai Radio, CHN
2019-01-11 00:09 8414.5   005671000  9529      Bangkok Radio, THA
2019-01-11 00:42 8414.5   005741040  9290      Hai Phong Radio, VTN
2019-01-11 13:05 8414.5   005743030  10241     Ho Chi Minh Ville Radio, VTN
2019-01-11 05:17 8414.5   006221111  3253      Alexandria Radio, EGY
2019-01-11 23:22 8414.5   007100001  9289      Rio de Janerio Radio, BRA
2019-01-11 00:17 8414.5   007100002  7388      Recife Radio, BRA
2019-01-11 10:35 12577.0  002371000  2209      Olympia Radio, GRC
2019-01-11 07:55 16804.5  002711000  2223      Istanbul Radio, TUR
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Output Generated By WWSU 6.4 (2013, Alex Wiecek - VE3GOP, http://www.ve3gop.com)
31 stations logged during this Session (0 new)
Total number of DSC stations logged   -   720

73,

Peter     g3ufi


Virus-free. www.avast.com

Re: Database Anomaly

peter
 

On 12/01/2019 12:01, david via Groups.Io wrote:
On 2177kHz, 258999089 is "Karmsund Vid,Skol LJ2B"
On 2187.5Khz, 258999089 is "Kamsund Vid.Skol LJ2B"

Not the end of the world, but can we confirm the correct version, and bring
the records into line?

On a related note, I had assumed that the 'LJ2B' was a callsign, but I see
that 258999039 Vestfold College has the same suffix. Can anyone help me with
the meaning of the 'LJ2B', then?
Hi David,

According to Marine Traffic site the spelling is 'Karmsund'  Also the correct callsigns are shown as Karmsund LJ2B   and for Vestfold LJ2P

I've updated the REU to show these changes.

73 for now....

Peter   g3ufi

Re: Database Anomaly

Richard Ware
 

On Sat, 12 Jan 2019 at 12:01, david via Groups.Io
<zinc65=btinternet.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hello All,
Bringing my WWSU log into line with logs automatically uploaded to YaDDNet,
I found a difference in descriptions:

On 2177kHz, 258999089 is "Karmsund Vid,Skol LJ2B"
On 2187.5Khz, 258999089 is "Kamsund Vid.Skol LJ2B"

Not the end of the world, but can we confirm the correct version, and bring
the records into line?

On a related note, I had assumed that the 'LJ2B' was a callsign, but I see
that 258999039 Vestfold College has the same suffix. Can anyone help me with
the meaning of the 'LJ2B', then?
----------------

If I could shove in my two-penny-worth

As a station's name doesn't form part of the DSC message, in theory
there's nothing to stop you calling it anything you want (within
reason, I suppose!) if you keep the info to yourself.
Once you start sharing, that's when problems could occur Whose
database do we use as 'the one we must all adhere to' and why? One
man's 'Sailor Examiner' could well be another man's 'Pandrup Test',
for example.Same MMSI number, different name. My own coast station
database for DSC Decoder shows the UK coastguard stations with their
names plus a simple "CG" suffix, and shore stations using ships' MMSI
numbers have an asterisk at the beginning and end of their names so I
can spot them easily when I'm looking at the DSC decoder screen. A
problem would occur if that was how YADDNet read it as someone else
might well have the same station with a different name, e.g 002320011
is Solent CG to me but it could well Solent COASTGUARD to someone else
and could result in duplicate entries which would take up oodles of
unnecessary space on the server. This duplication doesn't happen as
John has got some trickery installed in the heart of YADDNet to ensure
that irrespective of what your database may say and what gets uploaded
to YADDNet, it will be crunched saved and output to your own RWW
report using the station name from the YADD database, not yours. The
databases my well be the same but this is done just in case they're
not. Clever dot com

I've no idea what happens when my weekly log gets uploaded to REU. I
just 'send and forget' !

As for the LJ2B callsign....PASS !

Cheers
Rich

Database Anomaly

david
 

Hello All,
Bringing my WWSU log into line with logs automatically uploaded to YaDDNet,
I found a difference in descriptions:

On 2177kHz, 258999089 is "Karmsund Vid,Skol LJ2B"
On 2187.5Khz, 258999089 is "Kamsund Vid.Skol LJ2B"

Not the end of the world, but can we confirm the correct version, and bring
the records into line?

On a related note, I had assumed that the 'LJ2B' was a callsign, but I see
that 258999039 Vestfold College has the same suffix. Can anyone help me with
the meaning of the 'LJ2B', then?

All good database fun.

Best Wishes
David, GM8XBZ

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edoardo nicoletti
 

Listening Report for Edoardo Nicoletti, SWL I7-082/BA
Listening Location: Bari, JN81kd
Report Generated On Jan 12 2019
Equipment
Receiver(s): JRC NRD545
Antenna(s): PA0RDT Mini Whip
Software: YaDD
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
20190111 1604  2187.5 002442000 Netherlands CG Radio, HOL, 1551 Km
20190111 1622  2187.5 002191000 Lyngby Radio, DNK, 1727 Km
20190111 1631  2187.5 002371000 Olympia Radio, GRC, 691 Km
20190111 1642  2187.5 002653000 Goteborg Radio, SWE, 1852 Km
20190111 1645  2187.5 002311000 Torshavn Radio, FRO, 2807 Km
20190111 1704  2187.5 002734411 Novorossiysk Radio, RUS, 1745 Km
20190111 1733  2187.5 002610210 Witowo Radio, POL, 1485 Km
20190111 1749  2187.5 002652000 Stockholm Radio, SWE, 1608 Km
20190111 1749  2187.5 002711000 Istanbul Radio, TUR, 1002 Km
20190111 1756  2187.5 002570000 Public Correspondence, NOR, -- Km
20190111 1802  2187.5 002275400 CROSS La Garde, FRA, 905 Km
20190111 1930  2187.5 002241024 Valencia Radio, ESP, 1564 Km
20190111 2003  2187.5 002470002 Palermo Radio, SCY, 460 Km
20190111 2003  2187.5 002470128 Mazara del Vallo Radio, ITA, 534 Km
20190111 2004  2187.5 002470124 Crotone Radio, ITA, 229 Km
20190111 2006  2187.5 002713000 Antalya Radio, TUR, 1285 Km
20190111 2056  2187.5 002712000 Samsun Radio, TUR, 1627 Km
20190111 2122  2187.5 002470120 Augusta Radio, ITA, 456 Km
20190111 2339  2187.5 002734487 Taganrog Radio, RUS, 1831 Km
20190111 2348  2187.5 002241022 Coruna Radio, ESP, 2048 Km
20190112 0017  2187.5 002050480 Ostende Radio, BEL, 1543 Km
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
73, Edoardo

DSC CeNE Log 11 Jan 2019

Don
 

DSC "Dx" logs.

No 2 mHz logs


Session Report for Don Tomkinson, KPC6NDB
Listening Location: Gothenburg, NE, DN90ww (40°56'24"N   100°09'27"W)
Report Created On Jan 11, 2019
Receiver(s): Perseus WR-G31DDC
Antenna(s): DXE-ARAV3-1P
Software: Spectran WWSU YaDD
Report Sorted by Freq in Ascending order, Frequency Range 40.00 - 29,700.00 kHz
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
YYYY-MM-DD  UTC   kHz     Call        mi       Location
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
2019-01-11 00:03 4207.5   003669995  1329      NMN CAMSLANT Chesapeake, VA, USA
2019-01-11 01:10 4207.5   003669990  1219      CAMSPAC Pt Reyes NMC, CA, USA
2019-01-11 05:15 4207.5   003669991  1531      NMF COMMSTA Boston, MA, USA
2019-01-11 05:26 4207.5   003669998   954       NMG COMMSTA New Orleans, LA, USA

2019-01-11 02:35 6312.0   007251860  5427      Valparaiso Radio, CHL

2019-01-11 04:25 8414.5   006010001  9110      Cape Town Radio, AFS
2019-01-11 04:48 8414.5   007251860  5427      Valparaiso Radio, CHL
2019-01-11 09:32 8414.5   002241022  4454      Coruna Radio, ESP
2019-01-11 12:04 8414.5   007600125  3947      Callao Radio, PRU
2019-01-11 13:00 8414.5   005030001  8580      Charleville / Wiluna Radio, QD, AUS
2019-01-11 20:49 8414.5   003669990  1219      CAMSPAC Pt Reyes NMC, CA, USA
2019-01-11 22:53 8414.5   003669995  1329      NMN CAMSLANT Chesapeake, VA, USA
2019-01-11 23:17 8414.5   004122100  6792      Shanghai Radio, CHN

2019-01-11 06:26 12577.0  007100001  5709      Rio de Janeiro Radio, BRA

2019-01-11 17:00 16804.5  007100002  5337      Recife Radio, BRA
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
Output Generated By WWSU 6.4.0.17 (2013, Alex Wiecek - VE3GOP, http://www.ve3gop.com)
15 stations logged during this Session (0 new)
Total number of stations logged from all listening locations -  2341  (1821 NDB, 32 Navtex, 134 DGPS, 
                                                                       437 DSC, 20 HAM, 72 OTHER)
-- 
A terrific radio day in Nebraska!

Don


More Live Radio Fun and a Whole Lot More!

Don KPC6NDB
Gothenburg, NE
N40.9 W100.1 2600ft
BC1206CM Bearcat DX1000 FRG-100B
FunCube Dongle Pro+ ICF2010 Perseusx3
WR-G303e WR-G31DDCx7 SDRplay RSP2pro
R70 R71A w/250Hz R75x2 w/250Hz PRN1000x2
SDR-IQ SPR-4 SSR-1 w/NDB mod
SR-AF & LPF DSP599zx MFJ-784B HD-1418 AF-1 MSB-1
PA0RDT-MW @24ft DXE-ARAV3-1P @16ft
RYOAA McKay Dymek DA-100 AAx3
Z1501F Russian MW
80+ Vintage ADF/RDF
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DSC CeNE Log 10 Jan 2019

Don
 

DSC "Dx" logs.

No 2 mHz or 12 mHz logs.



Session Report for Don Tomkinson, KPC6NDB
Listening Location: Gothenburg, NE, DN90ww (40°56'24"N   100°09'27"W)
Report Created On Jan 11, 2019
Receiver(s): Perseus WR-G31DDC
Antenna(s): DXE-ARAV3-1P
Software: Spectran WWSU YaDD
Report Sorted by Freq in Ascending order, Frequency Range 40.00 - 29,700.00 kHz
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
YYYY-MM-DD  UTC   kHz     Call        mi       Location
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
2019-01-10 00:30 4207.5   003669998   954      NMG COMMSTA New Orleans, LA, USA
2019-01-10 00:37 4207.5   003669990  1219      CAMSPAC Pt Reyes NMC, CA, USA
2019-01-10 02:41 4207.5   003669991  1531      NMF COMMSTA Boston, MA, USA
2019-01-10 04:52 4207.5   003669995  1329      NMN CAMSLANT Chesapeake, VA, USA

2019-01-10 00:05 6312.0   003669995  1329      NMN CAMSLANT Chesapeake, VA, USA

2019-01-10 00:07 8414.5   003669995  1329      NMN CAMSLANT Chesapeake, VA, USA
2019-01-10 06:39 8414.5   007251860  5427      Valparaiso Radio, CHL
2019-01-10 09:23 8414.5   005030001  8580      Charleville / Wiluna Radio, QD, AUS
2019-01-10 15:11 8414.5   004310001  5925      Tokyo Coast Guard Radio, JPN
2019-01-10 22:41 8414.5   006010001  9110      Cape Town Radio, AFS
2019-01-10 23:07 8414.5   004122100  6792      Shanghai Radio, CHN

2019-01-10 18:08 16804.5  007251860  5427      Valparaiso Radio, CHL
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
Output Generated By WWSU 6.4.0.17 (2013, Alex Wiecek - VE3GOP, http://www.ve3gop.com)
12 stations logged during this Session (0 new)
Total number of stations logged from all listening locations -  2341  (1821 NDB, 32 Navtex, 134 DGPS, 
                                                                       437 DSC, 20 HAM, 72 OTHER)
-- 
A terrific day in Nebraska!

Don


More Live Radio Fun and a Whole Lot More!

Don KPC6NDB
Gothenburg, NE
N40.9 W100.1 2600ft
BC1206CM Bearcat DX1000 FRG-100B
FunCube Dongle Pro+ ICF2010 Perseusx3
WR-G303e WR-G31DDCx7 SDRplay RSP2pro
R70 R71A w/250Hz R75x2 w/250Hz PRN1000x2
SDR-IQ SPR-4 SSR-1 w/NDB mod
SR-AF & LPF DSP599zx MFJ-784B HD-1418 AF-1 MSB-1
PA0RDT-MW @24ft DXE-ARAV3-1P @16ft
RYOAA McKay Dymek DA-100 AAx3
Z1501F Russian MW
80+ Vintage ADF/RDF
2341 Lifetime logs +64k logs submitted




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REU DSC logs

peter
 

Hi all,

Recent DSC logs.

Session Report for Peter Conway, G3UFI
Listening Location: Hastings UK, JO00gv (50°52'54"N   000°34'40"E)
Report Created On Jan 11, 2019
Receiver(s): WiNRADiO 313i/R1000/RSP1A/Spyverter
Antenna(s): ALA100M/ALA1530 Loops/Dipoles/Discone
Software: Multipsk 4.33 + other software
Report Sorted by Freq in Ascending order, Frequency Range 100.00 - 156525.00 kHz
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
YYYY-MM-DD UTC    kHz     Call       km    New Location
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2019-01-10 16:25 2177.0   002241022  1079      Coruna Radio, ESP
2019-01-10 03:38 2187.5   002470128  1749      Mazara del Vallo Radio, ITA
2019-01-10 20:56 2187.5   002470135  1132      Trieste Radio, ITA
2019-01-10 18:01 2187.5   002734414  2748      Arkhangelsk Radio, RUS
2019-01-10 11:38 2187.5   002652000  1476      Stockholm Radio, SWE
2019-01-10 22:05 2187.5   002311000  1317      Torshavn Radio, FRO
2019-01-10 10:13 2187.5   002570500  1222      Floroe Radio, NOR
2019-01-10 02:23 2187.5   002320018  447       Holyhead Radio, WLS
2019-01-10 15:15 2187.5   002500200  766       Valentia Radio, IRL
2019-01-10 04:47 2187.5   002630100  1562      Lisboa Radio, POR
2019-01-10 06:20 2187.5   002040100  2527      Ponta Delgada MRCC, AZR
2019-01-10 11:55 2187.5   002241026  2909      Las Palmas Radio, CNR
2019-01-10 02:15 2187.5   002320008            UK Coastguard, ENG
2019-01-10 03:37 2187.5   002734487  2796      Taganrog Radio, RUS
2019-01-10 22:43 2187.5   002761000  1602      Undva, EST
2019-01-10 23:14 4207.5   002241022  1079      Coruna Radio, ESP
2019-01-10 22:12 6312.0   002371000  2209      Olympia Radio, GRC
2019-01-10 06:41 6312.0   002711000  2223      Istanbul Radio, TUR
2019-01-10 06:42 8414.5   002640570  2223      Constanta Radio, ROU
2019-01-10 19:42 8414.5   005030001  14978     Charleville/Wilun R, AT, AUS
2019-01-10 00:33 8414.5   005671000  9529      Bangkok Radio, THA
2019-01-10 00:12 8414.5   005741040  9290      Hai Phong Radio, VTN
2019-01-10 00:36 8414.5   006010001  9567      Cape Town Radio, AFS
2019-01-10 01:40 8414.5   007100002  7388      Recife Radio, BRA
2019-01-10 09:50 12577.0  002711000  2223      Istanbul Radio, TUR
2019-01-10 10:26 12577.0  002241022  1079      Coruna Radio, ESP
2019-01-10 12:23 16804.5  002711000  2223      Istanbul Radio, TUR
2019-01-10 08:10  156525  002320014  406       Falmouth Radio, ENG
2019-01-10 06:14  156525  002288217  124       Fecamp Signal station, FRA
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Output Generated By WWSU 6.4 (2013, Alex Wiecek - VE3GOP, http://www.ve3gop.com)
29 stations logged during this Session (0 new)
Total number of DSC stations logged   -   720

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Re: dsc log

Richard Ware
 

On Fri, 11 Jan 2019 at 12:04, david via Groups.Io
<zinc65=btinternet.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hello All,

I see the RNLI College in Poole has been very active in the last couple of days. They are getting out well, too, as both John and I logged them from the north, and Vincent from the East (amongst others).
Is this a training course, or are there some boats being refitted and tested?
-------------------------------
David/folks

Poole is the RNLI HQ. It's also the location of their training college
and the home of the ALC (all-weather lifeboat centre). It's where they
build them, overhaul them and refit them so there's always something
scooting about in Poole Harbour either on trials, on training, ex
maintenance or whatever. They could also be doing radio tests with new
or overhauled equipment. The Inshore Lifeboat Centre is at Cowes, Isle
of Wight.

My logging of Poole on Ch70 on 10th was the first time I've logged it on Ch70

Cheers
Rich

Re: dsc log

david
 

Hello All,

I see the RNLI College in Poole has been very active in the last couple of days. They are getting out well, too, as both John and I logged them from the north, and Vincent from the East (amongst others).
Is this a training course, or are there some boats being refitted and tested?

Best Wishes
David, GM8XBZ

-----Original Message-----
From: dsc-list@groups.io <dsc-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Vincent LECLER
Sent: 10 January 2019 19:17
To: dsc-list@groups.io
Subject: [dsc-list] dsc log

<snip>

20190109 0702 2177.0 235899980 RNLI College Poole, United Kingdom

dsc log

Vincent LECLER
 


Hi All

20190109 0635 2177.0 002241022 Coruna Radio, Spain
20190109 0819 2177.0 002241024 Valencia Radio, Spain
20190109 1416 2177.0 002241026 Las Palmas Radio, Spain
20190109 0747 2177.0 002510100 Reykjavik Radio, Iceland
20190109 1515 2177.0 002570100 Tjome Radio, Norway
20190109 0758 2177.0 002570300 Rogaland Radio, Norway
20190109 0702 2177.0 235899980 RNLI College Poole, United Kingdom

2187.5 :
20190109 2230 2187.5 002091000 Cyprus Radio, Cyprus
20190109 2346 2187.5 002111240 Bremen Radio, Germany
20190109 2020 2187.5 002191000 Lyngby Radio, Denmark
20190109 1940 2187.5 002241022 Coruna Radio, Spain
20190109 2016 2187.5 002241024 Valencia Radio, Spain
20190109 2206 2187.5 002241026 Las Palmas Radio, Spain
20190109 2126 2187.5 002275200 CROSS Jobourg, France
20190109 2334 2187.5 002275400 CROSS La Garde, France
20190109 2108 2187.5 002320001 Shetland Coastguard, United Kingdom
20190109 1946 2187.5 002320004 Aberdeen Coastguard, United Kingdom
20190109 2344 2187.5 002320011 Solent Coastguard, United Kingdom
20190109 2025 2187.5 002371000 Olympia Radio, Greece
20190109 2006 2187.5 002442000 Netherlands CG Radio, Netherlands
20190109 2210 2187.5 002470002 Palermo Radio, Italy
20190109 2214 2187.5 002470120 Augusta Radio, Italy
20190109 2205 2187.5 002470124 Crotone Radio, Italy
20190109 2229 2187.5 002500200 Valentia Radio, Ireland
20190109 2303 2187.5 002510100 Reykjavik Radio, Iceland
20190109 2018 2187.5 002570000 Public Correspondence, Norway
20190109 2030 2187.5 002570300 Rogaland Radio, Norway
20190109 1956 2187.5 002610210 Witowo Radio, Poland
20190109 2000 2187.5 002653000 Goteborg Radio, Sweden
20190109 2215 2187.5 002734411 Novorossiysk Radio, Russia
20190109 2340 2187.5 002734487 Taganrog Radio, Russia
20190109 2244 2187.5 003061000 Curacao Radio, Neth. Antilles
-- 
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REU DSC logs

peter
 

Hi all,

Recent DSC logs.  No 12/16 Mhz logs again...

Session Report for Peter Conway, G3UFI
Listening Location: Hastings UK, JO00gv (50°52'54"N   000°34'40"E)
Report Created On Jan 10, 2019
Receiver(s): WiNRADiO 313i/R1000/RSP1A/Spyverter
Antenna(s): ALA100M/ALA1530 Loops/Dipoles/Discone
Software: Multipsk 4.33 + other software
Report Sorted by Freq in Ascending order, Frequency Range 100.00 - 156525.00 kHz
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
YYYY-MM-DD UTC    kHz     Call       km    New Location
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2019-01-09 07:45 2177.0   002510100  1968      Reykjavik Radio, ISL
2019-01-09 15:12 2177.0   002570100  1143      Tjome Radio, NOR
2019-01-09 07:57 2177.0   002570300  923       Rogaland Radio, NOR
2019-01-09 14:32 2187.5   235899980  181       RNLI College Poole, ENG
2019-01-09 23:33 2187.5   002734411  2831      Novorossiysk radio, RUS
2019-01-09 01:04 2187.5   002733700  2042      Saint Petersburg Radio, RUS
2019-01-09 20:05 2187.5   002510100  1967      Reykjavik Radio, ISL
2019-01-09 10:02 2187.5   002442000  368       Den Helder CG R, HOL
2019-01-09 10:30 2187.5   002191000  904       Lyngby Radio, DNK
2019-01-09 11:34 2187.5   002050480  159       Ostende Radio, BEL
2019-01-09 11:12 2187.5   002570300  921       Rogaland Radio, NOR
2019-01-09 13:22 2187.5   002570500  1222      Floroe Radio, NOR
2019-01-09 13:32 2187.5   002320007  361       Humber Radio, ENG
2019-01-09 10:23 2187.5   002320004  716       Aberdeen Radio, SCT
2019-01-09 10:14 2187.5   002320014  406       Falmouth Radio, ENG
2019-01-09 12:41 2187.5   002320001  1036      Shetland Radio, SHE
2019-01-09 11:36 2187.5   002275100  70        CROSS Gris Nez, FRA
2019-01-09 18:02 2187.5   002275400  955       CROSS La Garde, FRA
2019-01-09 10:17 2187.5   002275200  220       CROSS Jobourg, FRA
2019-01-09 10:38 2187.5   002500100  726       Malin Head Radio, IRL
2019-01-09 02:27 2187.5   002630100  1562      Lisboa Radio, POR
2019-01-09 10:18 2187.5   002241022  1079      Coruna Radio, ESP
2019-01-09 10:26 2187.5   002241024  1350      Valencia Radio, ESP
2019-01-09 00:20 2187.5   002241026  2909      Las Palmas Radio, CNR
2019-01-09 10:53 2187.5   002570000            Public Correspondance, NOR
2019-01-09 22:55 2187.5   002770330  1469      Klaipeda RCC, LTU
2019-01-09 13:59 2187.5   002111240  613       Bremen Radio, DEU
2019-01-09 20:03 6312.0   005671000  9529      Bangkok Radio, THA
2019-01-09 10:47 8414.5   004122100  9224      Shanghai Radio, CHN
2019-01-09 00:29 8414.5   006010001  9567      Cape Town Radio, AFS
2019-01-09 02:52 8414.5   007100001  9289      Rio de Janerio Radio, BRA
2019-01-09 01:56 8414.5   007250380  13349     Punta Arenas, CHL
2019-01-09 23:31 8414.5   007100002  7388      Recife Radio, BRA
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Output Generated By WWSU 6.4 (2013, Alex Wiecek - VE3GOP, http://www.ve3gop.com)
33 stations logged during this Session (0 new)
Total number of DSC stations logged   -   720

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