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Re: MWP pictures

Christopher Deem
 

Cool.



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-------- Original message --------
From: Gary Slater <gws77@...>
Date: 11/1/20 6:35 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: cia-rocketry@groups.io
Subject: [cia-rocketry] MWP pictures



Re: [cia-leaders] Midwest Power update

Mark Joseph
 

Congrats to Gary and Steve for their fantastic flights this weekend. Milestones, really!

I was a spectator on Saturday - unfortunately too late to see their flights, but lots of other interesting ones - the gnome drag race, M to K 2-stage flights, etc. It was already pretty breezy on Saturday, so a much slower pace than usual. 

To add to Steve’s response regarding picking up someone else’s high power rocket: ejection charge safety is #1, but in addition, these projects are usually the result of a ton of planning and hard work.  Following what may be a rare opportunity to actually fly one, it’s beneficial to see exactly what state it’s in when it lands, before it’s been handled or moved. Among other things, we like to see how the recovery systems worked, the condition and layout of shock cords and parachutes, listen to the audible, post flight report of the altimeters or flight computers. But - as you point out, this was likely his field, and he gets to say what happens there. Some farmers and land owners love what we do, and others will always be skeptical, and highly protective. 

Glad you could see some of this, Benjamin!

Mark

On Nov 1, 2020, at 19:28, steven dramstad <sdramstad@...> wrote:

We use black powder charges to deploy the parachutes. It is possible that one didn’t fire but the electronics are still on. It is possible one could go off in your face when handling it. Could ruin your whole day… Steve

 

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From: Benjamin Rollinger
Sent: Sunday, November 1, 2020 7:12 PM
To: cia-rocketry@groups.io
Subject: Re: [cia-rocketry] [cia-leaders] Midwest Power update

 

Bravo flying at MWP.  My family and I enjoyed a few hours of launches on friday.

 

Apologies if this is an ignorant question, I'm new to anything but Estes class rockets.  Why advise the farmer not to handle, especially if (I guess an assumption on my part) it's in his field?  For ease of recovery?  In case of cert attempts?  Other?

On Sun, Nov 1, 2020, 18:31 Gary Slater <gws77@...> wrote:

I went to MWP this year with only one goal: fly my DX3 XL on an L1040 and recover it.  I had no idea of the real altitude I would get with that motor in that rocket.  Some sims were stating just over 11k.  I was hoping for 9-10k.  

 

I had to go about 1.5 miles to get it even after what looked like an appropriate 700 ft main opening.  When I got to where my Featherweight GPS tracker took me, it was no where in sight.  I saw a pick up in the field, moving in a north-easterly direction.  I was walking toward him.  

Finally I got to the truck and asked the farmer if he had seen any rockets.  "Yes, I got a yellow one and a green one" was his reply.  Sure enough, mine was the yellow one along with the other in the bed of his pick up. 

 

I politely advised him not to be handling the rockets but thanked him for saving me another 600-800 feet walk and allowing us to recover our rockets in his field.  

 

When I got back to the prep area, my Stratologger CF told me my altitude.  

 

11,957 feet!

 

That smashed my old altitude by 5600 feet.

 

From: steven dramstad <sdramstad@...>

To: Cia-Leaders <cia-leaders@groups.io>

Date: 11/01/2020 5:40 PM

Subject: [cia-leaders] Midwest Power update

 

 

Friday was perfect. Low winds and clear skies. Flew KISS, my 6” level 3 rocket to 10814 feet on an M1850 then Spacely’s Sprocket on an M1500 to 12338 feet. (a new personal best altitude) Then flew Alcubierre on a J350 to around 2500 feet. All 3 flights went perfectly.

Saturday was windy but just barely flyable. Flew Streaker to 2500 feet or so and then had to go almost half a mile into the corn field to the north of the launch site to recover it. Sunday was completely blown out. No one flew anything. So 4 flights with no damage. Might be a record there.

 

Steve

 

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Re: [cia-leaders] Midwest Power update

Benjamin Rollinger
 

Makes sense, thanks Steve.  Appreciate it.  Hoping to make a CIA launch one of these days....


On Sun, Nov 1, 2020, 19:28 steven dramstad <sdramstad@...> wrote:

We use black powder charges to deploy the parachutes. It is possible that one didn’t fire but the electronics are still on. It is possible one could go off in your face when handling it. Could ruin your whole day… Steve

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Benjamin Rollinger
Sent: Sunday, November 1, 2020 7:12 PM
To: cia-rocketry@groups.io
Subject: Re: [cia-rocketry] [cia-leaders] Midwest Power update

 

Bravo flying at MWP.  My family and I enjoyed a few hours of launches on friday.

 

Apologies if this is an ignorant question, I'm new to anything but Estes class rockets.  Why advise the farmer not to handle, especially if (I guess an assumption on my part) it's in his field?  For ease of recovery?  In case of cert attempts?  Other?

On Sun, Nov 1, 2020, 18:31 Gary Slater <gws77@...> wrote:

I went to MWP this year with only one goal: fly my DX3 XL on an L1040 and recover it.  I had no idea of the real altitude I would get with that motor in that rocket.  Some sims were stating just over 11k.  I was hoping for 9-10k.  

 

I had to go about 1.5 miles to get it even after what looked like an appropriate 700 ft main opening.  When I got to where my Featherweight GPS tracker took me, it was no where in sight.  I saw a pick up in the field, moving in a north-easterly direction.  I was walking toward him.  

Finally I got to the truck and asked the farmer if he had seen any rockets.  "Yes, I got a yellow one and a green one" was his reply.  Sure enough, mine was the yellow one along with the other in the bed of his pick up. 

 

I politely advised him not to be handling the rockets but thanked him for saving me another 600-800 feet walk and allowing us to recover our rockets in his field.  

 

When I got back to the prep area, my Stratologger CF told me my altitude.  

 

11,957 feet!

 

That smashed my old altitude by 5600 feet.

 

From: steven dramstad <sdramstad@...>

To: Cia-Leaders <cia-leaders@groups.io>

Date: 11/01/2020 5:40 PM

Subject: [cia-leaders] Midwest Power update

 

 

Friday was perfect. Low winds and clear skies. Flew KISS, my 6” level 3 rocket to 10814 feet on an M1850 then Spacely’s Sprocket on an M1500 to 12338 feet. (a new personal best altitude) Then flew Alcubierre on a J350 to around 2500 feet. All 3 flights went perfectly.

Saturday was windy but just barely flyable. Flew Streaker to 2500 feet or so and then had to go almost half a mile into the corn field to the north of the launch site to recover it. Sunday was completely blown out. No one flew anything. So 4 flights with no damage. Might be a record there.

 

Steve

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 


Re: [cia-leaders] Midwest Power update

steven dramstad
 

We use black powder charges to deploy the parachutes. It is possible that one didn’t fire but the electronics are still on. It is possible one could go off in your face when handling it. Could ruin your whole day… Steve

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Benjamin Rollinger
Sent: Sunday, November 1, 2020 7:12 PM
To: cia-rocketry@groups.io
Subject: Re: [cia-rocketry] [cia-leaders] Midwest Power update

 

Bravo flying at MWP.  My family and I enjoyed a few hours of launches on friday.

 

Apologies if this is an ignorant question, I'm new to anything but Estes class rockets.  Why advise the farmer not to handle, especially if (I guess an assumption on my part) it's in his field?  For ease of recovery?  In case of cert attempts?  Other?

On Sun, Nov 1, 2020, 18:31 Gary Slater <gws77@...> wrote:

I went to MWP this year with only one goal: fly my DX3 XL on an L1040 and recover it.  I had no idea of the real altitude I would get with that motor in that rocket.  Some sims were stating just over 11k.  I was hoping for 9-10k.  

 

I had to go about 1.5 miles to get it even after what looked like an appropriate 700 ft main opening.  When I got to where my Featherweight GPS tracker took me, it was no where in sight.  I saw a pick up in the field, moving in a north-easterly direction.  I was walking toward him.  

Finally I got to the truck and asked the farmer if he had seen any rockets.  "Yes, I got a yellow one and a green one" was his reply.  Sure enough, mine was the yellow one along with the other in the bed of his pick up. 

 

I politely advised him not to be handling the rockets but thanked him for saving me another 600-800 feet walk and allowing us to recover our rockets in his field.  

 

When I got back to the prep area, my Stratologger CF told me my altitude.  

 

11,957 feet!

 

That smashed my old altitude by 5600 feet.

 

From: steven dramstad <sdramstad@...>

To: Cia-Leaders <cia-leaders@groups.io>

Date: 11/01/2020 5:40 PM

Subject: [cia-leaders] Midwest Power update

 

 

Friday was perfect. Low winds and clear skies. Flew KISS, my 6” level 3 rocket to 10814 feet on an M1850 then Spacely’s Sprocket on an M1500 to 12338 feet. (a new personal best altitude) Then flew Alcubierre on a J350 to around 2500 feet. All 3 flights went perfectly.

Saturday was windy but just barely flyable. Flew Streaker to 2500 feet or so and then had to go almost half a mile into the corn field to the north of the launch site to recover it. Sunday was completely blown out. No one flew anything. So 4 flights with no damage. Might be a record there.

 

Steve

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 


Re: [cia-leaders] Midwest Power update

Benjamin Rollinger
 

Bravo flying at MWP.  My family and I enjoyed a few hours of launches on friday.

Apologies if this is an ignorant question, I'm new to anything but Estes class rockets.  Why advise the farmer not to handle, especially if (I guess an assumption on my part) it's in his field?  For ease of recovery?  In case of cert attempts?  Other?


On Sun, Nov 1, 2020, 18:31 Gary Slater <gws77@...> wrote:
I went to MWP this year with only one goal: fly my DX3 XL on an L1040 and recover it.  I had no idea of the real altitude I would get with that motor in that rocket.  Some sims were stating just over 11k.  I was hoping for 9-10k.  

I had to go about 1.5 miles to get it even after what looked like an appropriate 700 ft main opening.  When I got to where my Featherweight GPS tracker took me, it was no where in sight.  I saw a pick up in the field, moving in a north-easterly direction.  I was walking toward him.  
Finally I got to the truck and asked the farmer if he had seen any rockets.  "Yes, I got a yellow one and a green one" was his reply.  Sure enough, mine was the yellow one along with the other in the bed of his pick up. 

I politely advised him not to be handling the rockets but thanked him for saving me another 600-800 feet walk and allowing us to recover our rockets in his field.  

When I got back to the prep area, my Stratologger CF told me my altitude.  

11,957 feet!

That smashed my old altitude by 5600 feet.

From: steven dramstad <sdramstad@...>
To: Cia-Leaders <cia-leaders@groups.io>
Date: 11/01/2020 5:40 PM
Subject: [cia-leaders] Midwest Power update


Friday was perfect. Low winds and clear skies. Flew KISS, my 6” level 3 rocket to 10814 feet on an M1850 then Spacely’s Sprocket on an M1500 to 12338 feet. (a new personal best altitude) Then flew Alcubierre on a J350 to around 2500 feet. All 3 flights went perfectly.

Saturday was windy but just barely flyable. Flew Streaker to 2500 feet or so and then had to go almost half a mile into the corn field to the north of the launch site to recover it. Sunday was completely blown out. No one flew anything. So 4 flights with no damage. Might be a record there.


Steve


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MWP pictures

Gary Slater
 



[cia-leaders] Midwest Power update

Gary Slater
 

I went to MWP this year with only one goal: fly my DX3 XL on an L1040 and recover it.  I had no idea of the real altitude I would get with that motor in that rocket.  Some sims were stating just over 11k.  I was hoping for 9-10k.  

I had to go about 1.5 miles to get it even after what looked like an appropriate 700 ft main opening.  When I got to where my Featherweight GPS tracker took me, it was no where in sight.  I saw a pick up in the field, moving in a north-easterly direction.  I was walking toward him.  
Finally I got to the truck and asked the farmer if he had seen any rockets.  "Yes, I got a yellow one and a green one" was his reply.  Sure enough, mine was the yellow one along with the other in the bed of his pick up. 

I politely advised him not to be handling the rockets but thanked him for saving me another 600-800 feet walk and allowing us to recover our rockets in his field.  

When I got back to the prep area, my Stratologger CF told me my altitude.  

11,957 feet!

That smashed my old altitude by 5600 feet.

From: steven dramstad <sdramstad@...>
To: Cia-Leaders <cia-leaders@groups.io>
Date: 11/01/2020 5:40 PM
Subject: [cia-leaders] Midwest Power update


Friday was perfect. Low winds and clear skies. Flew KISS, my 6” level 3 rocket to 10814 feet on an M1850 then Spacely’s Sprocket on an M1500 to 12338 feet. (a new personal best altitude) Then flew Alcubierre on a J350 to around 2500 feet. All 3 flights went perfectly.

Saturday was windy but just barely flyable. Flew Streaker to 2500 feet or so and then had to go almost half a mile into the corn field to the north of the launch site to recover it. Sunday was completely blown out. No one flew anything. So 4 flights with no damage. Might be a record there.


Steve


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Re: Featherweight Tracker help

steven dramstad
 

Just make sure you update firmware on both tracker and base before you go. Steve


On Oct 28, 2020, at 8:46 PM, Gary Slater <gws77@...> wrote:


None so far. 
Anytime after about 10 am tomorrow is good. 

On Oct 28, 2020, at 5:46 PM, Mark Joseph <markjos@...> wrote:

Gary, if you haven't had a better offer, I'm willing to talk through this with you tonight or tomorrow.

Mark

________________________________________
From: cia-rocketry@groups.io <cia-rocketry@groups.io> on behalf of Gary Slater <gws77@...>
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2020 12:52 PM
To: cia-rocketry@groups.io
Subject: [cia-rocketry] Featherweight Tracker help

Anyone who uses these who can help me and answer some questions before Friday I would really appreciate it. Need mine for MWP and haven’t used it since last year and only once ever.

Email or text is fine.
217-3695742


Thanks!
Gary


Re: Featherweight Tracker help

Gary Slater
 

None so far. 
Anytime after about 10 am tomorrow is good. 

On Oct 28, 2020, at 5:46 PM, Mark Joseph <markjos@...> wrote:

Gary, if you haven't had a better offer, I'm willing to talk through this with you tonight or tomorrow.

Mark

________________________________________
From: cia-rocketry@groups.io <cia-rocketry@groups.io> on behalf of Gary Slater <gws77@...>
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2020 12:52 PM
To: cia-rocketry@groups.io
Subject: [cia-rocketry] Featherweight Tracker help

Anyone who uses these who can help me and answer some questions before Friday I would really appreciate it. Need mine for MWP and haven’t used it since last year and only once ever.

Email or text is fine.
217-3695742


Thanks!
Gary


Re: Featherweight Tracker help

Mark Joseph
 

Gary, if you haven't had a better offer, I'm willing to talk through this with you tonight or tomorrow.

Mark

________________________________________

From: cia-rocketry@groups.io <cia-rocketry@groups.io> on behalf of Gary Slater <gws77@...>
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2020 12:52 PM
To: cia-rocketry@groups.io
Subject: [cia-rocketry] Featherweight Tracker help

Anyone who uses these who can help me and answer some questions before Friday I would really appreciate it. Need mine for MWP and haven’t used it since last year and only once ever.

Email or text is fine.
217-3695742


Thanks!
Gary


Re: Featherweight Tracker help

Wes Cravens
 

Since it's MWP; remember that It works best if kept above ground. ;-)

Wes

On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 12:53 PM Gary Slater <gws77@...> wrote:
Anyone who uses these who can help me and answer some questions before Friday I would really appreciate it. Need mine for MWP and haven’t used it since last year and only once ever.

Email or text is fine.
217-3695742


Thanks!
Gary


Featherweight Tracker help

Gary Slater
 

Anyone who uses these who can help me and answer some questions before Friday I would really appreciate it. Need mine for MWP and haven’t used it since last year and only once ever.

Email or text is fine.
217-3695742


Thanks!
Gary


Peak of Flight news letter from Apogee

Gary Slater
 

Just read this article from Apogee.  It's from their latest Peak of Flight.
Interesting read but the numbers are most likely way off.  

https://www.apogeerockets.com/education/downloads/Newsletter533.pdf


pictures from Saturday's launch

Christopher Deem
 

Pictures from Saturday's Rantoul launch are on our SmugMug site under
local launches 2020.

--
Christopher Brian Deem NAR 12308 TRA 2256 level 2


Re: #Launch is GO #Launch

Christopher Deem
 

Nice pictures, I should have some up soon.



Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.


-------- Original message --------
From: Adam Rouse <ajrouse.esq@...>
Date: 10/25/20 10:27 AM (GMT-06:00)
To: cia-rocketry@groups.io
Subject: Re: [cia-rocketry] #Launch is GO

My pictures are up on my Smugmug: https://ajrouse.smugmug.com/Rocketry/CIA-Launches

 

Great launch everyone!

 

Cheers!

-Adam


Re: #Launch is GO #Launch

Jonathan Sivier
 

Nice pictures. Thanks.

It was a bit chilly out so we had a small crowd, but we had some great flights. I think Steve Dramstad had a zipper on one rocket due to a late deployment and John Hall had a cracked fin from a hard landing, but other than those all flights were successful and landed safely in the field.

I got in 4 flights during the day. I flew my Lil Nuke on an F62, my Stretch Blobbo on an F24, my Totally Tubular on a B6 and finished the day with my Majestic on an F27.

Jonathan


On 10/25/2020 10:27 AM, Adam Rouse wrote:
My pictures are up on my Smugmug: https://ajrouse.smugmug.com/Rocketry/CIA-Launches

Great launch everyone!

Cheers!

-Adam


Re: #Launch is GO #Launch

Adam Rouse
 

My pictures are up on my Smugmug: https://ajrouse.smugmug.com/Rocketry/CIA-Launches

 

Great launch everyone!

 

Cheers!

-Adam


Re: #Launch is GO #Launch

Jonathan Sivier
 

If you go to where we were last time we are almost directly east from there.  Looking at the map linked on the CIA maps page you can see the east access road that winds up to the south end of the runway.  From our location last time go south to the 4 way stop.  Turn left and drive east.  The road curves north.  You will see the entrance on the left after a bit.

Jonathan


On Sat, Oct 24, 2020, 1:29 PM John Robbins <johnrobbinsshell@...> wrote:
Can someone drop a pin where u guys are at today and share it?


On Sat, Oct 24, 2020 at 12:03 PM, Greg Smith
<gregs@...> wrote:
At 11:00 AM, it was 44°F in Champaign, with overcast skies at 3,200', and a NNE wind at 8 mph.

Although the cloud ceiling is currently too low to make full use of our maximum waiver altitude of 10,000 feet, it is expected to clear in the next couple of hours.

Otherwise, conditions are acceptable for flying, so we will meet as scheduled at noon on the east side of the Rantoul field to begin setting up for our launch.

-----

Greg Smith  N9LHI
NAR 15881 * TRA 1974
Director of Operations, Central Illinois Aerospace
greg@...  217-840-1678


Re: #Launch is GO #Launch

Mark Joseph
 

https://goo.gl/maps/V5sWBYWem2j3Gcum7

40°17'11.3"N 88°08'27.7"W

40.286465, -88.141022

________________________________________

From: cia-rocketry@groups.io <cia-rocketry@groups.io> on behalf of John Robbins <johnrobbinsshell@...>
Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2020 1:28 PM
To: cia-rocketry@groups.io
Subject: Re: [cia-rocketry] #Launch is GO

Can someone drop a pin where u guys are at today and share it?

Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail on Android<https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>

On Sat, Oct 24, 2020 at 12:03 PM, Greg Smith
<gregs@...> wrote:
At 11:00 AM, it was 44°F in Champaign, with overcast skies at 3,200', and a NNE wind at 8 mph.

Although the cloud ceiling is currently too low to make full use of our maximum waiver altitude of 10,000 feet, it is expected to clear in the next couple of hours.

Otherwise, conditions are acceptable for flying, so we will meet as scheduled at noon on the east side of the Rantoul field to begin setting up for our launch.

-----

Greg Smith N9LHI
NAR 15881 * TRA 1974
Director of Operations, Central Illinois Aerospace
greg@... 217-840-1678


Re: #Launch is GO #Launch

John Robbins
 

Can someone drop a pin where u guys are at today and share it?


On Sat, Oct 24, 2020 at 12:03 PM, Greg Smith
<gregs@...> wrote:
At 11:00 AM, it was 44°F in Champaign, with overcast skies at 3,200', and a NNE wind at 8 mph.

Although the cloud ceiling is currently too low to make full use of our maximum waiver altitude of 10,000 feet, it is expected to clear in the next couple of hours.

Otherwise, conditions are acceptable for flying, so we will meet as scheduled at noon on the east side of the Rantoul field to begin setting up for our launch.

-----

Greg Smith  N9LHI
NAR 15881 * TRA 1974
Director of Operations, Central Illinois Aerospace
greg@...  217-840-1678

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