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Re: call for nominations for GARLO awards

Adam Rouse
 

In case you want a refresher to think about nomination candidates, all my pictures are available now on smugmug. I’m still working on the videos, I expect to have them ready later this week.

 

https://ajrouse.smugmug.com/Rocketry/CIA-Launches

 

Cheers!

-Adam


Re: call for nominations for GARLO awards

Jonathan Sivier
 

An addendum to my earlier message. You can nominate a rocket in more than one category (i.e. a good looking rocket that has a great flight), but it can only win in one of those categories.

Jonathan


Re: call for nominations for GARLO awards

Rick Lyons
 

My Katana had a pretty impressive failure! It will fly again! Maybe I'll rename it Phoenix.

On Sunday, October 11, 2020, 12:00:42 PM CDT, Jonathan Sivier <jsivier@...> wrote:


Yesterday's launch was very successful. The weather turned out to be great and we had a very good turnout and lots of great flights.

As was mentioned in the announcements this was to be our "mini GARLO". We didn't have flight cards as we typically do at GARLO, so we don't have a good record of all the flights that were made. However, we do want to make some awards as we normally do for GARLO. So we are asking people to nominate their own flights, or if they recall an impressive rocket or flight during the afternoon you can nominate someone else.

Here are the categories we will be giving 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th place awards for:

Best Flight - The most impressive (successful) flight of the day. In your nomination message mention what made the flight so impressive to you.

Best Looking Rocket - This is fairly self-explanatory. It only needs to have made a successful flight. The flight itself doesn't need to be particularly impressive, as long as it went up and came down safely.

Best Rocket for the GARLO Theme - The theme this year was 2020 VIsion. The interpretation of this was left to the imagination of the rocketeer. In your nomination message tell us how you interpreted the theme and how the rocket you are nominating embodied that theme.

Odd-Roc - The best flight by a rocket that is somehow different than the usual 3 fins and a nose cone type rocket.

Prang - Not all rockets had successful flights. We do have some prang awards for those that experienced some problems in their flights.

Send your messages to the list so we can all see the nominations and at the same time relive some of the days flying. The deadline for submitting nominations will be next Saturday, October 17. After that time the awards committee will consider the submissions and make their decisions on the final awards.

To get the ball rolling I would like to nominate the flight of my Majestic on a G33 for one of the best flights of the day. It had a dark black smoke trail that was perfectly straight and very long as the motor burned for almost 4 seconds. It looked like someone had drawn a line up into the sky with a black Sharpie pen. We lost sight of the rocket after the motor burned out, but then it was spotted coming down shortly before the Chute Release opened the parachute at 300 feet. It landed safely in the field and was easily recovered.

Jonathan


call for nominations for GARLO awards

Jonathan Sivier
 

Yesterday's launch was very successful. The weather turned out to be great and we had a very good turnout and lots of great flights.

As was mentioned in the announcements this was to be our "mini GARLO". We didn't have flight cards as we typically do at GARLO, so we don't have a good record of all the flights that were made. However, we do want to make some awards as we normally do for GARLO. So we are asking people to nominate their own flights, or if they recall an impressive rocket or flight during the afternoon you can nominate someone else.

Here are the categories we will be giving 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th place awards for:

Best Flight - The most impressive (successful) flight of the day. In your nomination message mention what made the flight so impressive to you.

Best Looking Rocket - This is fairly self-explanatory. It only needs to have made a successful flight. The flight itself doesn't need to be particularly impressive, as long as it went up and came down safely.

Best Rocket for the GARLO Theme - The theme this year was 2020 VIsion. The interpretation of this was left to the imagination of the rocketeer. In your nomination message tell us how you interpreted the theme and how the rocket you are nominating embodied that theme.

Odd-Roc - The best flight by a rocket that is somehow different than the usual 3 fins and a nose cone type rocket.

Prang - Not all rockets had successful flights. We do have some prang awards for those that experienced some problems in their flights.

Send your messages to the list so we can all see the nominations and at the same time relive some of the days flying. The deadline for submitting nominations will be next Saturday, October 17. After that time the awards committee will consider the submissions and make their decisions on the final awards.

To get the ball rolling I would like to nominate the flight of my Majestic on a G33 for one of the best flights of the day. It had a dark black smoke trail that was perfectly straight and very long as the motor burned for almost 4 seconds. It looked like someone had drawn a line up into the sky with a black Sharpie pen. We lost sight of the rocket after the motor burned out, but then it was spotted coming down shortly before the Chute Release opened the parachute at 300 feet. It landed safely in the field and was easily recovered.

Jonathan


#Launch is GO #Launch

Greg Smith
 

At 11:00 AM, it was 69°F in Rantoul, with an overcast sky at 4,700 feet and a WSW wind at 10 mph.

Although the ceiling is a little low, it is expected to rise to over 12,000 feet shortly, and conditions are otherwise acceptable for flying.

We'll meet as scheduled at 12:00 noon at the southwest corner of the airfield to begin setting up for our launch.

-----

Greg Smith  N9LHI
NAR 15881 * TRA 1974
Director of Operations, Central Illinois Aerospace
greg@...  217-840-1678


Re: Outlook for Saturday #Launch

Jonathan Sivier
 

Since it will be our "mini-GARLO" everyone should wear their favorite GARLO shirt from a past year. If you don't have any I will have an assortment of shirts from some of our previous GARLO's available for a great bargain price.

Jonathan


On 10/9/2020 6:29 PM, Greg Smith wrote:
We have a rocket launch scheduled tomorrow, Saturday, October 10, at the Rantoul Aviation Center. For directions to this site, see http://www.ciarocketry.org/maps.html#rantoul

Setup will begin at 12:00 noon, probably at our usual location at the southwest corner of the airfield, near the hay barn. Our waiver allows flights up to 10,000' MSL (or 9,263' from ground level). We can fly until sunset at 6:20 PM.

If we fly tomorrow, it will also be our "mini-GARLO" launch, with awards for best flight, best looking rocket, and theme (20/20 Vision).

The forecast:

-----

Saturday - Partly sunny, with a high near 82. South southwest wind 8 to 10 mph, with gusts as high as 16 mph.

-----

We'll have to watch those wind gusts. We won't be able to fly if they exceed 20 mph. I'm mostly optimistic that we'll be able to hold the launch, but will need to check the conditions in the morning. I'll post the final decision about the launch here shortly after 11:00 AM tomorrow. You can also call me after that time at 217-840-1678 for an update.

Our next launch will be Saturday, October 24, also at the Rantoul Aviation Center.

We will be enforcing our physical distancing and masking requirements at tomorrow's launch. (See Jonathan to get one of our cool CIA logo masks!)

-----

Greg Smith N9LHI
NAR 15881 * TRA 1974
Director of Operations, Central Illinois Aerospace
greg@... 217-840-1678
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Outlook for Saturday #Launch

Greg Smith
 

We have a rocket launch scheduled tomorrow, Saturday, October 10, at the Rantoul Aviation Center. For directions to this site, see http://www.ciarocketry.org/maps.html#rantoul

Setup will begin at 12:00 noon, probably at our usual location at the southwest corner of the airfield, near the hay barn. Our waiver allows flights up to 10,000' MSL (or 9,263' from ground level). We can fly until sunset at 6:20 PM.

If we fly tomorrow, it will also be our "mini-GARLO" launch, with awards for best flight, best looking rocket, and theme (20/20 Vision).

The forecast:

-----

Saturday - Partly sunny, with a high near 82. South southwest wind 8 to 10 mph, with gusts as high as 16 mph.

-----

We'll have to watch those wind gusts. We won't be able to fly if they exceed 20 mph. I'm mostly optimistic that we'll be able to hold the launch, but will need to check the conditions in the morning. I'll post the final decision about the launch here shortly after 11:00 AM tomorrow. You can also call me after that time at 217-840-1678 for an update.

Our next launch will be Saturday, October 24, also at the Rantoul Aviation Center.

We will be enforcing our physical distancing and masking requirements at tomorrow's launch. (See Jonathan to get one of our cool CIA logo masks!)

-----

Greg Smith N9LHI
NAR 15881 * TRA 1974
Director of Operations, Central Illinois Aerospace
greg@... 217-840-1678


Re: Saturday #Launch

Christopher Deem
 

I am planning to be there
Don't know how much I will do.



Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.


-------- Original message --------
From: steven dramstad <sdramstad@...>
Date: 10/9/20 6:09 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: cia-rocketry@groups.io
Subject: Re: [cia-rocketry] Saturday #Launch

Will you be there Chris?


On Oct 8, 2020, at 9:19 PM, Rick Lyons via groups.io <medic_633@...> wrote:

 Yes, I’ve taken the test.


On Oct 8, 2020, at 8:58 PM, Christopher Deem <chris-deem@...> wrote:

I have one, have you already taken the test?

Christopher Brian Deem NAR 12308 TRA 2256 level 2

Rick Lyons via groups.io wrote:
I would like to try to get my Level 2 this weekend, but unfortunately
I don't have a motor. Would someone possibly have a reload for a
Aerotech 54-852, possibly a J 315? Or would someone have a different
case I could borrow, and sell me a reload. Thanks.......Rick Lyons

On Thursday, October 8, 2020, 1:45:49 PM CDT, Jonathan Sivier
<jsivier@...> wrote:


Just a quick heads up that we have a launch scheduled for this coming
Saturday, October 10. It will be held at the Rantoul launch site. We
have checked the field and the crops have been harvested so we should
be good to go. Of course, there is always the weather to worry about.
It is looking pretty good at the moment, but Greg will send out his
regular update tomorrow with more information. Let's hope the weather
cooperates.

Jonathan


Re: Saturday #Launch

steven dramstad
 

Will you be there Chris?


On Oct 8, 2020, at 9:19 PM, Rick Lyons via groups.io <medic_633@...> wrote:

 Yes, I’ve taken the test.


On Oct 8, 2020, at 8:58 PM, Christopher Deem <chris-deem@...> wrote:

I have one, have you already taken the test?

Christopher Brian Deem NAR 12308 TRA 2256 level 2

Rick Lyons via groups.io wrote:
I would like to try to get my Level 2 this weekend, but unfortunately
I don't have a motor. Would someone possibly have a reload for a
Aerotech 54-852, possibly a J 315? Or would someone have a different
case I could borrow, and sell me a reload. Thanks.......Rick Lyons

On Thursday, October 8, 2020, 1:45:49 PM CDT, Jonathan Sivier
<jsivier@...> wrote:


Just a quick heads up that we have a launch scheduled for this coming
Saturday, October 10. It will be held at the Rantoul launch site. We
have checked the field and the crops have been harvested so we should
be good to go. Of course, there is always the weather to worry about.
It is looking pretty good at the moment, but Greg will send out his
regular update tomorrow with more information. Let's hope the weather
cooperates.

Jonathan


Re: Saturday #Launch

Rick Lyons
 

Yes, I’ve taken the test.


On Oct 8, 2020, at 8:58 PM, Christopher Deem <chris-deem@...> wrote:

I have one, have you already taken the test?

Christopher Brian Deem NAR 12308 TRA 2256 level 2

Rick Lyons via groups.io wrote:
I would like to try to get my Level 2 this weekend, but unfortunately
I don't have a motor. Would someone possibly have a reload for a
Aerotech 54-852, possibly a J 315? Or would someone have a different
case I could borrow, and sell me a reload. Thanks.......Rick Lyons

On Thursday, October 8, 2020, 1:45:49 PM CDT, Jonathan Sivier
<jsivier@...> wrote:


Just a quick heads up that we have a launch scheduled for this coming
Saturday, October 10. It will be held at the Rantoul launch site. We
have checked the field and the crops have been harvested so we should
be good to go. Of course, there is always the weather to worry about.
It is looking pretty good at the moment, but Greg will send out his
regular update tomorrow with more information. Let's hope the weather
cooperates.

Jonathan


Re: Saturday #Launch

Christopher Deem
 

I have one, have you already taken the test?

Christopher Brian Deem NAR 12308 TRA 2256 level 2

Rick Lyons via groups.io wrote:

I would like to try to get my Level 2 this weekend, but unfortunately
I don't have a motor. Would someone possibly have a reload for a
Aerotech 54-852, possibly a J 315? Or would someone have a different
case I could borrow, and sell me a reload. Thanks.......Rick Lyons

On Thursday, October 8, 2020, 1:45:49 PM CDT, Jonathan Sivier
<jsivier@...> wrote:


Just a quick heads up that we have a launch scheduled for this coming
Saturday, October 10. It will be held at the Rantoul launch site. We
have checked the field and the crops have been harvested so we should
be good to go. Of course, there is always the weather to worry about.
It is looking pretty good at the moment, but Greg will send out his
regular update tomorrow with more information. Let's hope the weather
cooperates.

Jonathan


Re: Saturday #Launch

Rick Lyons
 

I would like to try to get my Level 2 this weekend, but unfortunately I don't have a motor. Would someone possibly have a reload for a Aerotech 54-852, possibly a J 315? Or would someone have a different case I could borrow, and sell me a reload. Thanks.......Rick Lyons

On Thursday, October 8, 2020, 1:45:49 PM CDT, Jonathan Sivier <jsivier@...> wrote:


Just a quick heads up that we have a launch scheduled for this coming Saturday, October 10. It will be held at the Rantoul launch site. We have checked the field and the crops have been harvested so we should be good to go. Of course, there is always the weather to worry about. It is looking pretty good at the moment, but Greg will send out his regular update tomorrow with more information. Let's hope the weather cooperates.

Jonathan


Saturday #Launch

Jonathan Sivier
 

Just a quick heads up that we have a launch scheduled for this coming Saturday, October 10. It will be held at the Rantoul launch site. We have checked the field and the crops have been harvested so we should be good to go. Of course, there is always the weather to worry about. It is looking pretty good at the moment, but Greg will send out his regular update tomorrow with more information. Let's hope the weather cooperates.

Jonathan


Re: Photos of a couple late summer launches

Christopher Deem
 

Nice pictures.

Christopher Brian Deem NAR 12308 TRA 2256 level 2

Adam Rouse wrote:


Hey all,

Wanted to let everyone know I finally got my photo gallery online via
SmugMug and the pictures from the launches I have attended this year
are uploaded. I will continue to upload photos to this gallery after
launches that I attend. If you want the original high-resolution
photo, or the RAW/CR2 file, I am happy to provide those for you. If
you want a release to use any of the photos for publication, I am
happy to provide one as well.

Here is the URL: https://ajrouse.smugmug.com/Rocketry/CIA-Launches

Cheers!

-Adam


Photos of a couple late summer launches

Adam Rouse
 

Hey all,

 

Wanted to let everyone know I finally got my photo gallery online via SmugMug and the pictures from the launches I have attended this year are uploaded. I will continue to upload photos to this gallery after launches that I attend. If you want the original high-resolution photo, or the RAW/CR2 file, I am happy to provide those for you. If you want a release to use any of the photos for publication, I am happy to provide one as well.

 

Here is the URL: https://ajrouse.smugmug.com/Rocketry/CIA-Launches

 

Cheers!

-Adam


Re: "Chute Spool"

Gary Slater
 

And I forgot, not to mention potential use of necessary space inside of what may be an already limited space air frame.

On 09/30/2020 11:02 AM Jonathan Sivier <jsivier@...> wrote:


I read the article when it came out yesterday and thought it was a clever idea. As you say it would be difficult to set a specific time or altitude for chute deployment, but it would have the effect of delaying deployment to reduce drift. It might be interesting to try it out and see how it works.

Jonathan

On 9/30/2020 9:20 AM, Gary Slater wrote:
Anyone else see this?  A non-electronic, non-pyro delayed chute release idea.
Any thoughts about it?

As I understand it, one basically has to use trial and error adjustments in case your chute releases too early or too late.  And particularly for smaller rockets, it means added weight which means higher thrust motors and delay timing issues??

https://www.apogeerockets.com/education/downloads/Newsletter531.pdf



Re: "Chute Spool"

Jonathan Sivier
 

I read the article when it came out yesterday and thought it was a clever idea. As you say it would be difficult to set a specific time or altitude for chute deployment, but it would have the effect of delaying deployment to reduce drift. It might be interesting to try it out and see how it works.

Jonathan


On 9/30/2020 9:20 AM, Gary Slater wrote:
Anyone else see this?  A non-electronic, non-pyro delayed chute release idea.
Any thoughts about it?

As I understand it, one basically has to use trial and error adjustments in case your chute releases too early or too late.  And particularly for smaller rockets, it means added weight which means higher thrust motors and delay timing issues??

https://www.apogeerockets.com/education/downloads/Newsletter531.pdf



"Chute Spool"

Gary Slater
 

Anyone else see this?  A non-electronic, non-pyro delayed chute release idea.  
Any thoughts about it?

As I understand it, one basically has to use trial and error adjustments in case your chute releases too early or too late.  And particularly for smaller rockets, it means added weight which means higher thrust motors and delay timing issues??




Re: parachute folding

Gary Slater
 

I dont think its as much the way we fold the chute as it is how we attach it. 

Is the rubber band too loose?

Does your arrangement promote snag or binding the chute some way?

I would start there. 

On Sep 29, 2020, at 7:40 PM, Dean Babcock <traceybabcock@...> wrote:


At our last launch i had two chutes that didn't open fully while using the chute release. I would be interested in hearing how others fold their chutes and attach the chute release I sent my chute release to jolly logic thinking there was a problem with it. John replaced some of the components to make it like new. I have been folding following the instructions in tutorial.

Dean


parachute folding

Dean Babcock
 

At our last launch i had two chutes that didn't open fully while using the chute release. I would be interested in hearing how others fold their chutes and attach the chute release I sent my chute release to jolly logic thinking there was a problem with it. John replaced some of the components to make it like new. I have been folding following the instructions in tutorial.

Dean

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