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#GARLO #launch is GO #GARLO #Launch

Greg Smith
 

At 8:00 AM, it was 75°F in Champaign, with clear skies and a northeast wind at 7 mph.

Conditions are good for our launch, so we will meet as scheduled at 9:00 AM in the north section of the Dodds Park soccer field parking lots to begin setting up for GARLO 2022.

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Greg Smith  N9LHI
NAR 15881 * TRA 1974
Director of Operations, Central Illinois Aerospace
gregs@...  217-840-1678


Re: help needed for GARLO tomorrow

steven dramstad
 

I will be there and yes, a far pad would be a good idea…….

 

Steve

 

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From: Greg Smith
Sent: Friday, July 1, 2022 1:16 PM
To: cia-rocketry@groups.io
Subject: Re: [cia-rocketry] help needed for GARLO tomorrow

 

We’ll probably want to set up a far pad for some of the largest rockets, in addition to all the usual stuff.

 

- GDS

 

 

 

From: cia-rocketry@groups.io <cia-rocketry@groups.io> On Behalf Of Gary Slater
Sent: Friday, July 1, 2022 12:40 PM
To: cia-rocketry@groups.io
Subject: Re: [cia-rocketry] help needed for GARLO tomorrow

 

I feel most effective while out at the pads helping the younger, less inexperienced get their igniters hooked up and just monitoring traffic around the cables/wires etc.  Speaking of, I like the way Jonathan set the cones around the cables for our launch last Friday so would like to do it that way again.  I can do that for a couple of hours at least.  I just may need a break once or twice.

 

 

On 07/01/2022 12:31 PM Jonathan Sivier <jsivier@...> wrote:

 

 

As always we will need help setting up for GARLO. Given the likely wind direction we may have to transport the launch equipment a distance into the field, so the more people who can come at 9 to help set up the better. We'll also need help tearing down at the end of the day.

There are other tasks that we need people willing to help with for a little while during the day. The big one will probably be helping kids with the give away rockets. Depending on what sort of turnout we have that can be a big job for a while, until we have given away all the rockets. We all want to fly our own rockets as well, so having more people to help at times during the day will be a benefit.

We'll need people willing to take a turn coordinating pad assignments and handling launching the rockets. There may be other jobs as well during the course of the day.

Jonathan

 


H283

Gary Slater
 

Does anyone have an available H283 they can bring to GARLO tomorrow? 

thanks,
gary 


Outlook for #GARLO 2022 #GARLO #Launch

Greg Smith
 

The Great Annual Rocket Launch of 2022 is tomorrow, Saturday, July 2, at Dodds Park in Champaign.

We'll meet at 9:00 AM, probably in the north half of the soccer field parking lots, to begin setting up. Flying will run from 10:00 AM until 4:00 PM.

Our waiver allows flying up to 4,000' MSL (3,252' from ground level) with certified Class 2 motors through "H" impulse.

The ever-changing forecast has caused us a few sleepless nights in the past week, but now looks pretty good:

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NWS: Partly sunny, with a high near 86. North northeast wind 5 to 7 mph.

TWC: Partly cloudy skies in the morning will give way to cloudy skies during the afternoon. High 87F. Winds ENE at 5 to 10 mph.

Aviation Terminal Area Forecast for Champaign:
Forecast period: 0600 to 1800 UTC 02 July 2022 <-- NOTE this ends at 1:00 PM CDT
Winds: from the N (360 degrees) at 6 MPH (5 knots; 2.6 m/s)
Visibility: 6 or more miles (10+ km)
Ceiling: 15000 feet AGL
Clouds: broken clouds at 15000 feet AGL
Weather: no significant weather forecast for this period

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I am pretty sure the weather will be "go" for the launch tomorrow. I'll post a final announcement about conditions shortly after 8:00 AM Saturday. You can also call me after 8:00 AM at 217-840-1678 for an update.

Our next regular club launch will be Saturday, July 9 at Dodds Park.

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Greg Smith N9LHI
NAR 15881 * TRA 1974
Director of Operations, Central Illinois Aerospace
gregs@... 217-840-1678


Re: help needed for GARLO tomorrow

Greg Smith
 

The pad that broke has been replaced with one of the new, sturdier black metal folding ones. I still need to fix a few of the launch cables and will work on them tonight. We should be in good shape for equipment tomorrow, but thanks for offering.

 

- GDS

 

 

 

From: cia-rocketry@groups.io <cia-rocketry@groups.io> On Behalf Of John Robbins via groups.io
Sent: Friday, July 1, 2022 1:36 PM
To: cia-rocketry@groups.io
Subject: Re: [cia-rocketry] help needed for GARLO tomorrow

 

I believe last launch there was pads that needed repair.  Did you need us to bring pads if we have them?

 

I can be there at 9 and help out thru the day.

 

John


Re: help needed for GARLO tomorrow

John Robbins
 

I believe last launch there was pads that needed repair.  Did you need us to bring pads if we have them?

 

I can be there at 9 and help out thru the day.

 

John

 

From: cia-rocketry@groups.io <cia-rocketry@groups.io> On Behalf Of Gary Slater via groups.io
Sent: Friday, July 1, 2022 1:27 PM
To: cia-rocketry@groups.io
Subject: Re: [cia-rocketry] help needed for GARLO tomorrow

 

Think Secure. This email is from an external source.

Greg, do you mean the big yellow pad (it may look more exciting for the unknowing spectators) or just another regular pad?  

 

On 07/01/2022 1:15 PM Greg Smith <gregs@...> wrote:

 

 

We’ll probably want to set up a far pad for some of the largest rockets, in addition to all the usual stuff.

 

- GDS

 

 

 

From: cia-rocketry@groups.io <cia-rocketry@groups.io> On Behalf Of Gary Slater
Sent: Friday, July 1, 2022 12:40 PM
To: cia-rocketry@groups.io
Subject: Re: [cia-rocketry] help needed for GARLO tomorrow

 

I feel most effective while out at the pads helping the younger, less inexperienced get their igniters hooked up and just monitoring traffic around the cables/wires etc.  Speaking of, I like the way Jonathan set the cones around the cables for our launch last Friday so would like to do it that way again.  I can do that for a couple of hours at least.  I just may need a break once or twice.

 

 

On 07/01/2022 12:31 PM Jonathan Sivier <jsivier@...> wrote:

 

 

As always we will need help setting up for GARLO. Given the likely wind direction we may have to transport the launch equipment a distance into the field, so the more people who can come at 9 to help set up the better. We'll also need help tearing down at the end of the day.

There are other tasks that we need people willing to help with for a little while during the day. The big one will probably be helping kids with the give away rockets. Depending on what sort of turnout we have that can be a big job for a while, until we have given away all the rockets. We all want to fly our own rockets as well, so having more people to help at times during the day will be a benefit.

We'll need people willing to take a turn coordinating pad assignments and handling launching the rockets. There may be other jobs as well during the course of the day.

Jonathan

 


Re: help needed for GARLO tomorrow

Gary Slater
 

Greg, do you mean the big yellow pad (it may look more exciting for the unknowing spectators) or just another regular pad?  

On 07/01/2022 1:15 PM Greg Smith <gregs@...> wrote:


We’ll probably want to set up a far pad for some of the largest rockets, in addition to all the usual stuff.


- GDS




From: cia-rocketry@groups.io <cia-rocketry@groups.io> On Behalf Of Gary Slater
Sent: Friday, July 1, 2022 12:40 PM
To: cia-rocketry@groups.io
Subject: Re: [cia-rocketry] help needed for GARLO tomorrow


I feel most effective while out at the pads helping the younger, less inexperienced get their igniters hooked up and just monitoring traffic around the cables/wires etc.  Speaking of, I like the way Jonathan set the cones around the cables for our launch last Friday so would like to do it that way again.  I can do that for a couple of hours at least.  I just may need a break once or twice.

 

 

On 07/01/2022 12:31 PM Jonathan Sivier <jsivier@...> wrote:



As always we will need help setting up for GARLO. Given the likely wind direction we may have to transport the launch equipment a distance into the field, so the more people who can come at 9 to help set up the better. We'll also need help tearing down at the end of the day.

There are other tasks that we need people willing to help with for a little while during the day. The big one will probably be helping kids with the give away rockets. Depending on what sort of turnout we have that can be a big job for a while, until we have given away all the rockets. We all want to fly our own rockets as well, so having more people to help at times during the day will be a benefit.

We'll need people willing to take a turn coordinating pad assignments and handling launching the rockets. There may be other jobs as well during the course of the day.

Jonathan



Re: help needed for GARLO tomorrow

Greg Smith
 

We’ll probably want to set up a far pad for some of the largest rockets, in addition to all the usual stuff.

 

- GDS

 

 

 

From: cia-rocketry@groups.io <cia-rocketry@groups.io> On Behalf Of Gary Slater
Sent: Friday, July 1, 2022 12:40 PM
To: cia-rocketry@groups.io
Subject: Re: [cia-rocketry] help needed for GARLO tomorrow

 

I feel most effective while out at the pads helping the younger, less inexperienced get their igniters hooked up and just monitoring traffic around the cables/wires etc.  Speaking of, I like the way Jonathan set the cones around the cables for our launch last Friday so would like to do it that way again.  I can do that for a couple of hours at least.  I just may need a break once or twice.

 

 

On 07/01/2022 12:31 PM Jonathan Sivier <jsivier@...> wrote:

 

 

As always we will need help setting up for GARLO. Given the likely wind direction we may have to transport the launch equipment a distance into the field, so the more people who can come at 9 to help set up the better. We'll also need help tearing down at the end of the day.

There are other tasks that we need people willing to help with for a little while during the day. The big one will probably be helping kids with the give away rockets. Depending on what sort of turnout we have that can be a big job for a while, until we have given away all the rockets. We all want to fly our own rockets as well, so having more people to help at times during the day will be a benefit.

We'll need people willing to take a turn coordinating pad assignments and handling launching the rockets. There may be other jobs as well during the course of the day.

Jonathan


Re: help needed for GARLO tomorrow

Gary Slater
 

I feel most effective while out at the pads helping the younger, less inexperienced get their igniters hooked up and just monitoring traffic around the cables/wires etc.  Speaking of, I like the way Jonathan set the cones around the cables for our launch last Friday so would like to do it that way again.  I can do that for a couple of hours at least.  I just may need a break once or twice.


On 07/01/2022 12:31 PM Jonathan Sivier <jsivier@...> wrote:


As always we will need help setting up for GARLO. Given the likely wind direction we may have to transport the launch equipment a distance into the field, so the more people who can come at 9 to help set up the better. We'll also need help tearing down at the end of the day.

There are other tasks that we need people willing to help with for a little while during the day. The big one will probably be helping kids with the give away rockets. Depending on what sort of turnout we have that can be a big job for a while, until we have given away all the rockets. We all want to fly our own rockets as well, so having more people to help at times during the day will be a benefit.

We'll need people willing to take a turn coordinating pad assignments and handling launching the rockets. There may be other jobs as well during the course of the day.

Jonathan


help needed for GARLO tomorrow

Jonathan Sivier
 

As always we will need help setting up for GARLO. Given the likely wind direction we may have to transport the launch equipment a distance into the field, so the more people who can come at 9 to help set up the better. We'll also need help tearing down at the end of the day.

There are other tasks that we need people willing to help with for a little while during the day. The big one will probably be helping kids with the give away rockets. Depending on what sort of turnout we have that can be a big job for a while, until we have given away all the rockets. We all want to fly our own rockets as well, so having more people to help at times during the day will be a benefit.

We'll need people willing to take a turn coordinating pad assignments and handling launching the rockets. There may be other jobs as well during the course of the day.

Jonathan


give away rockets at GARLO

Jonathan Sivier
 

We have a batch of rockets and motors to give away to kids at GARLO tomorrow so they can make their first flight. If you know of any families with kids who might be interested let them know and encourage them to come out tomorrow. It will be while supplies last so earlier in the day will be better than later.

Jonathan


Re: GARLO wind

Gary Slater
 

Thanks Greg!

On 07/01/2022 10:59 AM Greg Smith <gregs@...> wrote:


The longer I do this, the more I favor setting up launchers in the very middle of whatever field we’re using, and pointing the rods/rails straight up. Not a joke – but on smaller fields it isn’t always practical. The overwhelming consensus of the forecasts is for a wind between N and NE tomorrow with speeds peaking around 8 mph – I’ll continue planning on that unless we observe something very different tomorrow.


- GDS




From: cia-rocketry@groups.io <cia-rocketry@groups.io> On Behalf Of Gary Slater
Sent: Friday, July 1, 2022 9:47 AM
To: cia-rocketry@groups.io
Subject: [cia-rocketry] GARLO wind


Windfinder is now forecasting easterly to east-south easterly winds tomorrow.  

Predict wind and other weather services still saying mostly north easterly tomorrow.  

 

Gust highs about 11.

 

The 11 high wind isn't bothering me.  It's the direction.  Everything for me depends on directrion and exactly where we set up. 

I am really having a difficult time choosing motors for tomorrow. 



Re: GARLO wind

Greg Smith
 

The longer I do this, the more I favor setting up launchers in the very middle of whatever field we’re using, and pointing the rods/rails straight up. Not a joke – but on smaller fields it isn’t always practical. The overwhelming consensus of the forecasts is for a wind between N and NE tomorrow with speeds peaking around 8 mph – I’ll continue planning on that unless we observe something very different tomorrow.

 

- GDS

 

 

 

From: cia-rocketry@groups.io <cia-rocketry@groups.io> On Behalf Of Gary Slater
Sent: Friday, July 1, 2022 9:47 AM
To: cia-rocketry@groups.io
Subject: [cia-rocketry] GARLO wind

 

Windfinder is now forecasting easterly to east-south easterly winds tomorrow.  

Predict wind and other weather services still saying mostly north easterly tomorrow.  

 

Gust highs about 11.

 

The 11 high wind isn't bothering me.  It's the direction.  Everything for me depends on directrion and exactly where we set up. 

I am really having a difficult time choosing motors for tomorrow. 


GARLO wind

Gary Slater
 

Windfinder is now forecasting easterly to east-south easterly winds tomorrow.  
Predict wind and other weather services still saying mostly north easterly tomorrow.  

Gust highs about 11.

The 11 high wind isn't bothering me.  It's the direction.  Everything for me depends on directrion and exactly where we set up. 
I am really having a difficult time choosing motors for tomorrow. 


Re: Starship in July?

Anshuk Chigullapalli
 

I wanted to mention that a lot of students from UIUC who've worked with or have launched rockets with CIA rocketry now work at SpaceX on the Starship program! High powered rocketry teams were a big part of why we got hired and we couldn't have done that without CIA's help, so you'll always have that connection to SpaceX :)

Can't reveal too much but we're working on making orbital flight a reality as soon as possible!

Anshuk Chigullapalli


From: cia-rocketry@groups.io <cia-rocketry@groups.io> on behalf of Gary Slater <gws77@...>
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2022 6:14 PM
To: cia-rocketry@groups.io <cia-rocketry@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [cia-rocketry] Starship in July?
 
Now that is really cool Greg. 
We do have a connection to SpaceX!!!

On Jun 26, 2022, at 7:35 PM, Greg Smith <gregs@...> wrote:



As I mentioned at our last meeting, the waiver and permitting process for the SpaceX launches is now handled by the same team of three people at the FAA in Fort Worth, Texas that is responsible for reviewing and issuing our model rocket launch waivers. Pretty cool in that I’ve spoken to Mr. Pilgrim personally several times and never realized he was also working on such high stakes stuff. They are extremely meticulous technocrats there, but also friendly people with a real enthusiasm for things that fly – not the usual image of a government bureaucracy at all. I presume they were principally responsible for the document mentioned in the article. I can imagine it reads a lot like the “Special Provisions” section that comes attached to our rocketry waivers. Ours only has 12 items on it, compared to Elon’s 75!

 

- GDS

 

 

 

From: cia-rocketry@groups.io <cia-rocketry@groups.io> On Behalf Of Gary Slater
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2022 7:17 PM
To: cia-rocketry@groups.io
Subject: [cia-rocketry] Starship in July?

 

https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-spacex-starship-launch-rocket-texas-faa-experts-doubt-2022-6?amp


Re: Starship in July?

Gary Slater
 

Now that is really cool Greg. 
We do have a connection to SpaceX!!!

On Jun 26, 2022, at 7:35 PM, Greg Smith <gregs@...> wrote:



As I mentioned at our last meeting, the waiver and permitting process for the SpaceX launches is now handled by the same team of three people at the FAA in Fort Worth, Texas that is responsible for reviewing and issuing our model rocket launch waivers. Pretty cool in that I’ve spoken to Mr. Pilgrim personally several times and never realized he was also working on such high stakes stuff. They are extremely meticulous technocrats there, but also friendly people with a real enthusiasm for things that fly – not the usual image of a government bureaucracy at all. I presume they were principally responsible for the document mentioned in the article. I can imagine it reads a lot like the “Special Provisions” section that comes attached to our rocketry waivers. Ours only has 12 items on it, compared to Elon’s 75!

 

- GDS

 

 

 

From: cia-rocketry@groups.io <cia-rocketry@groups.io> On Behalf Of Gary Slater
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2022 7:17 PM
To: cia-rocketry@groups.io
Subject: [cia-rocketry] Starship in July?

 

https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-spacex-starship-launch-rocket-texas-faa-experts-doubt-2022-6?amp


Re: Starship in July?

Greg Smith
 

As I mentioned at our last meeting, the waiver and permitting process for the SpaceX launches is now handled by the same team of three people at the FAA in Fort Worth, Texas that is responsible for reviewing and issuing our model rocket launch waivers. Pretty cool in that I’ve spoken to Mr. Pilgrim personally several times and never realized he was also working on such high stakes stuff. They are extremely meticulous technocrats there, but also friendly people with a real enthusiasm for things that fly – not the usual image of a government bureaucracy at all. I presume they were principally responsible for the document mentioned in the article. I can imagine it reads a lot like the “Special Provisions” section that comes attached to our rocketry waivers. Ours only has 12 items on it, compared to Elon’s 75!

 

- GDS

 

 

 

From: cia-rocketry@groups.io <cia-rocketry@groups.io> On Behalf Of Gary Slater
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2022 7:17 PM
To: cia-rocketry@groups.io
Subject: [cia-rocketry] Starship in July?

 

https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-spacex-starship-launch-rocket-texas-faa-experts-doubt-2022-6?amp


Starship in July?

Gary Slater
 


#Launch CANCELED #Launch

Greg Smith
 

It is raining lightly in Champaign, with rain expected to continue off and on until about 3:00 PM. After that the temperature and winds will both increase. Therefore, today's launch is canceled.

This is a strange situation. Although it's definitely wet at my house, rain is NOT falling at the airport south of town where the official observations are taken. Therefore, the NWS reports are misleading. What a mess.

Next Saturday, July 2, is GARLO 2022. Keep your hopes up for good weather. The current forecast is not very good, but a lot can change in a week.

- GDS


Re: #Launch ON HOLD #Launch

Jonathan Sivier
 

It also looks like the wind could increase considerably in the afternoon.

Jonathan


On 6/25/2022 10:10 AM, Greg Smith wrote:
Today's weather continues to be confounding. Although the temperature is nice (76°F) and the winds are light (ESE 5 mph) right now, there is an area of rain just to the north of us which is expected to graze the C-U area before noon and continuing for a couple of hours.

With apologies to our out of town friends, I'm going to delay making a final decision about the launch for an hour to see how this weather develops.

Look for another message shortly after 11:00 AM, and expect, at the least, a delayed start to the launch.

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Greg Smith  N9LHI
NAR 15881 * TRA 1974
Director of Operations, Central Illinois Aerospace
gregs@...  217-840-1678

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