Re: Level 1 certification

Gary Slater

Chris or anyone else, what epoxy does stick to Quantum?

On Sep 29, 2020, at 1:41 PM, Christopher Deem <chris-deem@...> wrote:

What Lon said, Quantum tubing is plastic pipe and most glues will not stick to it. Also, it expands and contracts more than other materials with temperature changes.

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-------- Original message --------
From: Lon Westfall <l.westfall@...>
Date: 9/29/20 10:58 AM (GMT-06:00)
Subject: Re: [cia-rocketry] Level 1 certification

Hi Mike,

I started rocketry with PML kits.  My level one cert was with an Ariel.  I would recommend staying away from Quantum Tubing which is what is used on the Miranda, Endeavour, and the Ariel.  For most people building a first high power kit it is probably best to stick with cardboard or blue tube and no pistons.  Pistons and Quantum Tubing do not mix well although I have had good luck with fiberglass and pistons.  I'm personally fond of fiberglass or carbon fiber rockets but they require more experience with construction than cardboard or blue tube and are much more expensive.  Popular cardboard kits are available from and  If you are in the market for fiberglass kits a source for well designed and complete kits is  Most manufactures of fiberglass kits do not include things like a parachute.

Don't be afraid to ask more questions.

Lon Westfall

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Maxwell <mmaxwell525@...>
Sent: Tue, 29 Sep 2020 10:25:25 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [cia-rocketry] Level 1 certification

Good morning everyone. I have been thinking about trying to get a level one certification over the last few weeks and I’m looking for some advice on a kit. I have been looking at public missiles and like two of their kits. The Miranda and the Endeavour.
The Miranda is :
3” diameter
62” tall
And has the kwik switch 54/38/29 MMT.
The Endeavour is:
3.9” diameter
71” tall
72 oz
And has the same kwik switch MMT
I read in an article to think about where you would like to be in 2-3 years after your level one and use a kit with that in mind. That being said I am leaning toward the larger Endeavour. If anyone has had any experience with public missiles kits I would love to know how the quality is. Also if anyone has any other suggestions for different kits I would appreciate it.
Thanks mike

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