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Re: test

Ian_Wade_G3NRW
 
Edited

Hi Dave, hi Richard

Likewise, just joined. Let's see if email connection with the group works.

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73
Ian, G3NRW


test

Dave Sergeant
 

Hi Richard, just joined, here is a test message sent via email.

Dave

http://davesergeant.com


Re: How best to provide support for BB4W

Richard Russell
 

---In bb4w@yahoogroups.com, <dave@davesergeant.com> wrote :
> May be worth considering?


Certainly sounds interesting. To reserve the name I've created a BB4W group there; that may have 'burnt the boats' as far as using their automatic 'move a Yahoo group' feature is concerned but I'm not sure I would want to risk doing that anyway.


As a web-interface-only user I am not in any position to judge its email functionality, which proved the undoing of the Wiggio group that otherwise seemed so promising. So I'm open to suggestions as to how we can ascertain the suitability of Groups.io as a potential replacement for Yahoo.


Richard.


Re: How best to provide support for BB4W

Dave Sergeant
 

Resurrecting this thread...

Richard, I have just been pointed to Groups.io (http://www.groups.io)
which is a new email list with web access that aims to do the same as
Yahoogroups without its irks. The free version is apparently pretty
similar to Yahoogroups and it is possible to easily move groups over.

May be worth considering?

Dave

On 12 Sep 2015 at 12:44, yahoo@rtrussell.co.uk [bb4w] wrote:

This Yahoo! group used to be the 'official' support forum for 'BBC BASIC
for Windows' until the Neo debacle made it effectively impossible for me
to use (the bugs meant I couldn't compose replies in a sensible
fashion). Even now, although things have improved a little, I can only
access it satisfactorily from my laptop and message formatting is often
messed up.

http://davesergeant.com


Re: Trying to delete a folder

Richard Russell
 

---In bb4w@yahoogroups.com, <sveinioslo@gmail.com> wrote :
> Incidentally, the link to MULTIWIN appears to be broken.?


True. I have deleted the link (version 2.1 of MULTIWIN is supplied as standard with BB4W v6.00a).


Richard.


Re: Trying to delete a folder

svein svensson
 

Great, even better.
SYS WinExec is perfect for my needs.

Thank you
Svein

Incidentally, the link to MULTIWIN appears to be broken.?
bb4w.wikispaces.com/Creating+a+custom+graphics+control


Re: Trying to delete a folder

Richard Russell
 

---In bb4w@yahoogroups.com, <sveinioslo@gmail.com> wrote :
> An easier way is to just use " *del /Q ".


A snag with that approach is that it causes a command window to open, if only briefly. The 'flash' of a black window may be disconcerting to the user, and therefore unacceptable in the context of the overall program.


However if that side-effect is acceptable an even easier way is to use 'rmdir /s/q':

OSCLI "*rmdir /s/q " + dir$


Perhaps the 'best of both worlds' solution is to use 'rmdir /s/q' but in such a way that no command window opens, for example:


SYS "WinExec", "cmd.exe /c rmdir /s/q " + dir$, 0


Richard.


Re: Trying to delete a folder

svein svensson
 

An easier way is to just use " *del /Q ".

Proof:
dir$=@tmp$+"testfolder"
OSCLI "mkdir "+dir$
FOR I%=1 TO 10
fnr%=OPENOUT(dir$+"/testfile"+STR$I%+".txt")
PRINT#fnr%,"Thisisatest "+STR$I%
CLOSE#fnr%
NEXT I%

OSCLI "*del /Q "+dir$
OSCLI "rmdir "+dir$



Svein


File - reminder.txt

bb4w@...
 

(This message is posted automatically once a month)

If you are currently receiving emails from the group but would
prefer not to, you can change your email delivery settings. To
do that click on 'Edit Membership' above (if you are reading this
on the group's web page) or connect to the internet and click on
this link: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bb4w/join

Scroll down to the section entitled Message Delivery and you will
see four radio-button options:

o Individual Email
o Daily Digest
o Special Notices
o Web Only

Select 'Special Notices' or 'Web Only', then confirm by clicking
Save Changes, and you won't be troubled by group emails (if you
select Special Notices you will still receive important messages
such as announcements of new versions of BBC BASIC for Windows).

Richard.


Re: Trying to delete a folder

 

Lovely, that explains it. Many thanks.

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+44 (0)1737832586
+44 (0)7749387934
Skype: alanxbbc


Re: Trying to delete a folder

J.G.Harston
 

mgmarten wrote:
You have to delete all the files in the directory first! That implies
a loop finding files and deleting them and then delete the folder.

Yes, for that you'd need the equivalent of the *Wipe command. I've got
a *Wipe in BASIC for BBC filing systems[1], I'll recode the directory
scanning part and post it on the Wiki.


[1] Wiper at http://mdfs.net/Software/FileTools


--
J.G.Harston - jgh@mdfs.net - mdfs.net/jgh


Re: Trying to delete a folder

Storer, Darren
 

PS. The OSCLI RMDIR technique would only work if the directory was already
empty.

On 22 September 2015 at 16:42, Storer, Darren <darren.storer@gmail.com>
wrote:

Hi Robert,

how about an OSCLI call using "RMDIR" and the directory name?

e.g. OSCLI "RMDIR """+DirectoryToRemove$+""""

See below for details about spaces in filenames:

https://bb4w.wikispaces.com/Filenames+containing+spaces

Best regards

Darren

On 22 September 2015 at 13:32, Alan Roberts
roberts.mugswell@btinternet.com [bb4w] <bb4w@yahoogroups.com> wrote:



Deleting a file is easy (*DELETE), but how about deleting a folder?
*DELETE returns an error because it isn't a file. Is there a way to do
this?

AR

--
Alan Roberts - Mugswell, Surrey
+44 (0)1737832586
+44 (0)7749387934
Skype: alanxbbc



Re: Trying to delete a folder

Storer, Darren
 

Hi Robert,

how about an OSCLI call using "RMDIR" and the directory name?

e.g. OSCLI "RMDIR """+DirectoryToRemove$+""""

See below for details about spaces in filenames:

https://bb4w.wikispaces.com/Filenames+containing+spaces

Best regards

Darren

On 22 September 2015 at 13:32, Alan Roberts roberts.mugswell@btinternet.com
[bb4w] <bb4w@yahoogroups.com> wrote:



Deleting a file is easy (*DELETE), but how about deleting a folder?
*DELETE returns an error because it isn't a file. Is there a way to do
this?

AR

--
Alan Roberts - Mugswell, Surrey
+44 (0)1737832586
+44 (0)7749387934
Skype: alanxbbc



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Re: Trying to delete a folder

mgmarten@...
 

You have to delete all the files in the directory first! That implies a loop finding files and deleting them and then delete the folder.


Re: Trying to delete a folder

J.G.Harston
 

Alan Roberts wrote:
Deleting a file is easy (*DELETE), but how about deleting a folder?
*DELETE returns an error because it isn't a file. Is there a way to do
this?

*RMDIR <dirname>


Yes, a bit annoying that you need to know the object type before being
able to delete it. You could wrap it up in a procedure if you need an
agnostic delete function.


Quick'n'hacky:


DEFPROCdelete(object$)
LOCAL ok%:ok%=TRUE
LOCAL ERROR:ON ERROR LOCAL ok%=FALSE
IF ok% THEN OSCLI "Delete "+object$:ENDPROC
RESTORE ERROR
OSCLI "RmDir "+object$
ENDPROC


I use a similar procedure for creating a directory without generating
an error if the directory already exists.


--
J.G.Harston - jgh@mdfs.net - mdfs.net/jgh


Trying to delete a folder

 

Deleting a file is easy (*DELETE), but how about deleting a folder? *DELETE returns an error because it isn't a file. Is there a way to do this?

AR

--
Alan Roberts - Mugswell, Surrey
+44 (0)1737832586
+44 (0)7749387934
Skype: alanxbbc


SQLite For BBC Basic

Bill Greenfield <bjg1940@...>
 

Members-

Can anyone tell me where I can find the SQLite library for BBC Basic. I
have tried
Jon Ripley's site numerous times, but it appears to not be functioning?

Bill Greenfield


test

Dave Sergeant
 

The recent email traffic revealed that I had lost the ability to post
on this list. Richard has now hopefully sorted it out.

Watching the discussion with interest...

Dave

http://davesergeant.com


Re: How best to provide support for BB4W

J.G.Harston
 

gordonsweet wrote:
But have I missed something here not noticing if a BBC4W group
has been created? If so what is the name of the FB Group please?

There's a BB4W group on Facebook, I linked to it upthread when telling
people how to get the posts via email:


Sign on to Facebook.
Go to the BBC BASIC page at https://www.facebook.com/bbcbasic
Ensure you've clicked on Like so that you have Liked the page
Click on the drop-down menu within the Liked button
Ensure Get Notifications is ticked.


Then, whenever there's activity you get it emailed to the address
Facebook knows you by.


You might be wise to get into the habit of using its correct name.
There's no initial 'C' in either BBC, BASIC, For or Windows. Not
only will it give you the correct search results, but a websearch
for BBC4W returned some... interesting... dating websites.


--
J.G.Harston - jgh@mdfs.net - mdfs.net/jgh


Re: How best to provide support for BB4W

 

Richard,
Can't you just set-up a new Conforum Board (=NCB)  functioning as the old one but governed by a few simple rules :
- the NCB is accessible in read-only for everyone interested
- to contribute you need to register first (closed user group)
- every contribution (a reply or starting a new topic) is screened before publication

The sole criterium for approval should be "non-abusive content only"Who approves ? The administrator/moderator.
What would be the downside of this approach ?Censorship ? Not really. Every board has a moderator to filter out the rubbish.More effort to follow up registrations and screening the contributions ? Again, not really : on a busy day there are around 5 (exceptionally up to 10) incoming contributions, not counting your own. If one checks the NCB once a day this shouldn't take more dan 10 sec.Time spent to throw out the abusers : they won't see their contributions anymore and get tired of trying.

I'm affraid I've never done anything like the above, so I apologize if I' m oversimplifying the issue.
But I remember you had this sort of approach already (close user group) on a few topics (Was it encryption, LBB, other ...? Not very sure anymore).
On a personal note :I can imagine that you feel disappointed by the abusive reactions of a few silly individuals. Don't be !! If an abusive reaction pops up, don't even be tempted to respond to it. Just let it go away like water off a duck's backThere are so many more people who appreciate the care you spend on all this.
regards, Eddy



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