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Stage sur les activités liées au Forum européen de recherche agricole pour le développement (EFARD)
Ceci pourrait intéresser les jeunes fraichement diplomés.
http://www.cta.int/fr/article/2015-10-01/stage-sur-les-activites-liees-au-forum-europeen-de-recherche-agricole-pour-le-developpement-efard.html
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Re: History of Groups.io
Richard Russell
On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 07:27 am, Dave Sergeant <dave@davesergeant.com> wrote:
it was founded by Mark Fletcher who was the chap who foundedEvidently Groups.io was created in part because of the Neo debacle at Yahoo; Mark Fletcher says in that blog post: "some of Yahoo’s recent changes have actually made Yahoo Groups worse!". If his new offering had been around a little earlier I expect large numbers of Yahoo groups would have migrated there at the time, but when so many were casting around for an alternative it didn't yet exist. The only concern I have is its long termI share your concern. Supposedly the free basic package is supported by advertisements, but as yet I haven't seen any. Richard.
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History of Groups.io
(sent this earlier, it didn't seem to have gone through)
I was quite surprised to learn, while finding out more about groups.io, that it was founded by Mark Fletcher who was the chap who founded egroups back in the 1990s which after various takeovers became Yahoogroups: http://wingedpig.com/2014/09/23/introducing-groups-io/ It looks as if I have found what may well be a suitable home for BB4W and also some other groups. The only concern I have is its long term future as I can find little on their website about where their servers are and how they are costed. Since the free basic package does what most need I cannot see them getting enough from their paid packages to cover their costs. And whether it really is run by just one person or backed by larger concerns. Dave http://davesergeant.com
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Re: test
J.G.Harston
日本語が正しく表示されます。"Это демонстрация российского текста".Ваш русский текст отображается по электронной почте нормально. -- J.G.Harston - jgh@mdfs.net - mdfs.net/jgh
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Re: test
Richard Russell
On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 04:23 am, Ian_Wade_G3NRW <g3nrw-radio@ntlworld.com> wrote:
Мой дорогой Ричард!Hah! Being able to read Cyrillic (which I can, just about) is not the same thing as being able to understand Russian (which I can't, except for the simplest examples) so hooray for Google Translate! The main characteristics of Arabic (which I certainly don't understand) are that it is right-to-left reading - so when embedded in an otherwise LTR message implies bi-directional editing - and that it has many contextual forms in which the character displayed depends on what precedes and/or follows it. Both seem to work perfectly in the Groups.io web editor. Richard.
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Re: test
On 17/10/2015 10:21, news@rtrussell.co.uk wrote:
On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 11:53 pm, Dave Sergeant <dave@davesergeant.com> wrote: Let's try inserting some Cyrillic, as I'm always keen that our international members are properly supported: "Это демонстрация российского текста". Мой дорогой Ричард! Ваш русский текст отображается по электронной почте нормально. К сожалению, я ничего не знаю о языках загадочного Востока! -- 73 Ian, G3NRW
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Re: Let's see how code gets through
J.G.Harston
J.G.Harston wrote:
J.G.Harston wrote:Also looks ok. I'll have to investigate having a signature automatically added.Small bits of fixed data can be held in a string:Now, I'm seeing how the web interface copes. jgh
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Re: Let's see how code gets through
J.G.Harston
J.G.Harston wrote:
Small bits of fixed data can be held in a string:Now, I'm seeing how the web interface copes. This is selecting "Reply", then "Insert quoted message", then "Plain Text" before pasting in this code and trimming down the quoted text. I can see that long lines of quoted code can get broken, see above, but I think that's acceptable as long as new posts containing code get through correctly. REM Binary padded with zeros DEFFNb0(A%,N%):LOCAL A$ REPEAT A$=STR$(A% AND 1)+A$:A%=A% >>> 1:UNTIL A%=0:=RIGHT$(STRING$(N%,"0")+A$,N%) jgh
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Re: Let's see how code gets through
J.G.Harston
J.G.Harston wrote:
Small bits of fixed data can be held in a string:That seems to work perfectly. I was able to copy'n'paste into the BBw4 IDE and the code pasted correctly both pasted from the incoming email and from the web interface. The above sentence is also a test to see how line wrapping works. -- J.G.Harston - jgh@mdfs.net - mdfs.net/jgh
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Let's see how code gets through
J.G.Harston
Small bits of fixed data can be held in a string:
DEF FNmon(mon%)=MID$("JanFebMarAprMayJunJulAugSepOctNovDec",mon%*3-2,3) This can even be done for data that at first sight doesn't look like fixed data: DEF FNmonth(mon%) \ \ =MID$("JanuaryFebruaryMarchAprilMayJuneJulyAugustSeptemberOctoberNovemberDecember", \ \ VALMID$("010816212629333743525967",mon%*2-1,2), \ \ VALMID$("785534469788",mon%,1)) -- J.G.Harston - jgh@mdfs.net - mdfs.net/jgh
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Re: test
Richard Russell
On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 11:53 pm, Dave Sergeant <dave@davesergeant.com> wrote:
Maybe the web interface forces top quoting?The quoted text always gets inserted at the top, yes, although there's nothing to stop you editing the message afterwards to add something above it. But I always prefer 'top quoting' anyway (in other words I want my replies to follow what I am replying to, which seems the natural way). I would have liked a setting which causes replies to default to plain text, but there doesn't seem to be one. Let's try inserting some Cyrillic, as I'm always keen that our international members are properly supported: "Это демонстрация российского текста". That seems to work in the web interface (plain text mode), what do those of you who receive emails get? The real test is to see whether the editor supports bi-directional Arabic text, which can be tricky (as I know from implementing it in the BB4W editor): "هذا مثال يمكنك من الكتابة من اليمين" - wow that actually seems to work! From what I've experienced so far this editor is vastly superior to the cr*p Yahoo! one. Richard.
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Re: test
HTML messages received as HTML emails, plain text as plain text. So
clearly groups.io doesn't try and constitute an HTML version of plain text ones with the inevitable issues, that is good. As for quoted text, not sure what is going on there but provided people bottom quote rather than top quote then it is not an issue. Maybe the web interface forces top quoting? Dave On 16 Oct 2015 at 14:35, news@rtrussell.co.uk wrote: On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 03:15 am, Dave Sergeant <dave@davesergeant.com> http://davesergeant.com
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Re: Starting a new thread
Joined 17/10/2015. Bob.
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Starting a new thread
Richard Russell
As I recall, one of Wiggio's faults was that the email headers weren't correctly formatted to allow a threaded reader to correctly recognise which thread the messages belonged to. I wonder if this works any better.
Richard.
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Re: test
Richard Russell
Ah, that's interesting. With the plain text message the web interface *is* clever enough not to use the quoted text as the summary, but with the HTML message it isn't.
Richard.
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Re: test
Richard Russell
On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 03:15 am, Dave Sergeant <dave@davesergeant.com> wrote:
This time I'm replying in plain text mode. I'd expect this probably not to arrive as a multipart message, but as a regular plain text email, but it will be interesting to see what happens. One odd thing in the web interface is that in the 'message view' (in which just a two-line summary of each message is displayed) it doesn't seem to understand that quoted text at the top of the message *isn't* sensible as the summary! Surely it should ignore the quoted text and display the beginning of the reply itself? Richard.
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Re: test
Richard Russell
On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 03:15 am, Dave Sergeant wrote:
Hi Richard, just joined, here is a test message sent via email. OK this is an attempt at replying via the web interface, firstly using the HTML editor. To those who are receiving emails I'm interested to know if this arrives as a multipart MIME message with both HTML and plain-text parts, which I think it should. Richard.
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Re: How best to provide support for BB4W
Yep, seems to work. I was particularly pleased in how easy it was to
join, none of the intrusive questions and mobile numbers that Yahoogroups insists on - 30 seconds to do the lot, including replying to the activation email. The web interface looks a bit plain, maybe Richard will do some testing on that. email certainly is doing the job. And with 1GB of file storage space guess we will have enough... Dave On 16 Oct 2015 at 21:17, Ian_Wade_G3NRW g3nrw-radio@nt wrote: On 16/10/2015 06:45, 'Dave Sergeant' dave@davesergeant.com [bb4w] wrote:Resurrecting this thread... > > Richard, I have just been pointed toGroups.io (http://www.groups.io) > which is a new email list with web http://davesergeant.com
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Re: How best to provide support for BB4W
On 16/10/2015 06:45, 'Dave Sergeant' dave@davesergeant.com [bb4w] wrote:
Resurrecting this thread... Thanks Dave. Just what I have been looking for, for some new groups I plan to set up. BTW, I joined the new groups.io/bb4w group a few moments ago. Email message transfer works fine in both directions. It even understands message threads. (The web interface works as well, but I wouldn't normally use it). -- 73 Ian, G3NRW
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Re: test
On 16/10/2015 20:54, g3nrw-radio@ntlworld.com wrote:
Hi Dave, hi Richard Yup, it seems to work. -- 73 Ian, G3NRW
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