Re: Victor Stream List

john s

Roger, I don't believe the battery is a part of the cover but 2 separate pieces.

At 02:46 PM 6/13/2018, Roger Loran Bailey via Groups.Io, wrote:
As I said before, I contacted Humanware and they told me that they have not sold the battery for the first generation Stream since 2016. That means that both the first generation Stream and its battery are obsolete. As for the suggestion to try Batteries Plus, I doubt that they could help. The battery for the Stream is very specialized. Its shape is unlike a battery for any other device and it is a part of the covering for the battery compartment. It is not an off-the-shelf battery.

On 6/13/2018 8:42 AM, lynn white wrote:
I would highly suggest contacting Humanware. They sell batteries for the Stream family.

On 6/13/2018 4:04 AM, john s wrote:
For you people who have dead batteries for your first generation Streams, would a place such as Batteries Plus help you?

At 11:19 PM 6/12/2018, Rosemarie Grayley, wrote:
Oh, my. I'm also running into trouble with my lovely first generation stream. It holds a charge for a couple of days only now.

Roger's post and his checking on the possibility of obtaining a battery helped a lot. I was about to write to the list to ask where I could purchase one.

The post about the second gen stream not being as reliable as the first gen stream is a little worrying. However, that's probably how I'll be going.

I'm not that keen to acquire a lot of devices and my simple cell, just a phone, serves me well. My computer takes in books and my filing system works fine and my back up system works fine too. no need to have a lot of duplication on this.

I've been following the thread concerning the Victor Stream list and hope that gets resolved soon. I'm interested in podcasts, radio, TV, movie tracks, and a few other things and hope that the second gen stream can easily do all that. I'm hoping to join the list before actually purchasing the device.

These free flowing threads answer a lot of questions and also bring questions to mind that need consideration.

Thanks all,


-----Original Message-----
From: [] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: [bardtalk] Victor Stream List


I echo your sentiments exactly.

I have two first-gen Streams, and the battery on one of them is completely dead. Won't keep a charge at all.

I know I can still use that Stream with the wall adapter, but having a battery is so much more useful when reading on the go.

Dr. Tom Behler From Michigan

-----Original Message-----
From: <> On Behalf Of Miriam Vieni
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 12:59 PM
Subject: Re: [bardtalk] Victor Stream List

I have to say that I'll miss my first gen stream when its battery dies. It is extremely efficient for reading books. The second gen stream, because it is a more complicated device, is somewhat more difficult to use. It's slower to start reading or doing whatever it is supposed to do after it turns on. It doesn't always provide the audible signals that it's set to provide like when it downloads something or turns off. I'm glad I have it, but I'm sorry that Humanware stopped producing the simpler device, or at least the batteries for it.


-----Original Message-----
From: <> On Behalf Of nancy Lynn
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 11:04 AM
To: BTL <>
Subject: Re: [bardtalk] Victor Stream List

I use my iPhone for some things, but I won't use the bard app either. I have
2 perfectly good streams, and I store my downloaded bard books on an external drive hooked to the computer. That works fine for me. I don't even download from the 2nd gen stream although I can if I want. I like my iPhone for the things it does, although I can't say I'm all that proficient with it even after having it for over a year now. I never use bard express as I don't really need it. I just download an unzip the old-fashion way.
Nancy Lynn seabreeze.stl@...
-----Original Message-----
From: Joshua Hendrickson
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 7:49 AM
Subject: Re: [bardtalk] Victor Stream List

Russ for all those reasons why you like an ios device, I do not. When I eventually will have to make the switch to some sort of smart phone, I'm getting an android phone of some kind with the ability to insert a micro SD card. I won't be getting the bard mobile app, or audible app because once the books are downloaded to the device, I don't know if they can easily be gotten off the device to the computer. I like storing my books on external hard drives because I have them immediately at my disposal and can keep them for as long as I want periodically backing up the contents on to other external hard drives.
I have purchased an 8 terabyte drive for the beginning of this process. I want a phone to be a phone where I can make phone calls and send text messages. I don't need anything else. I don't do enough traveling to warrant really needing any kind of device to put all kinds of apps on it. I'm hopefully selling my braille note touch because I just wasn't using it all that much. I'm much more interested in learning songs on the guitar and actually reading some of the books that I own then worrying about the latest and greatest app. I don't like the bard mobile app at all, because I think first having to add any book you want to get to your wish list first before downloading it isn't very practical. I much more prefer using the wonderful bard express program which makes the process of finding and download bard books so much easier. I can download my bard books and also have the books extracted and ready for organizing directly to my external hard drive which totally means I don't have to do any unzipping of bard books at all. Also, why don't we hear that much about blind people using android devices. A lot of my family members who are sighted use android instead of ios. I like that android gives you different models of device to choose from and that the android apps are open source. I hope Rodger will enjoy his new stream and will quickly learn what a useful device it can be.

On 6/12/18, Russ <russ94577@...> wrote:
I took a lot of time thinking about if I should buy a second
generation victor reader stream. I ended
up buying a ipad mini. Here's why:
It has more volume and better sound than my ipod touch, first
generation victor reader stream booksense and plextalk pocket. It
does everything I would do with a specialized player. With being able
to lock the screen while playing audio content, I get much more play
time than with my specialized players.

With the bard mobile app, I can read nls books on it. Books can be
directly downloaded to the ipad mini. This can't be done on my
specialized players I currently own.

With the audible app, I can read books from audible. Books can be
directly downloaded to the ipad mini. I can't do this with my
specialized players I currently own.

With the Kindle app, I can read Kindle books from Amazon. I can't do
this with my specialized playrs.

With the voice dream reader app I can read books from bookshare,
unprotected epub, listen to old time radio shows.
Supported File Formats PDF, EPUB (DRM free), DAISY 3.0 text-based
eBooks, DAISY 2.02 audiobooks, Zipped MP3 files, such as LibriVox,
Plain Text, Rich Text Format (RTF), Microsoft Word, Microsoft
PowerPoint, Apple Pages, Apple Keynote, HTML.
What's nice about voice dream reader, you can download books from both
bookshare and Project Gutenberg directly to the ipad mini.
I bought the optional neospeech voice to make it sound just like a
booksense when reading any text based file. I can switch between
Acapela and neospeech. I can't see buying a second generation victor
reader stream inorder to download books from bookshare to it. With
the specialized players I currently own, I can't download books from
bookshare to them.

With the LibriVox Audio Books Pro provides free access to over 15,000
audiobooks and thousands of radio dramas with no ads. Each audiobook
can be streamed over the internet or downloaded for later use.

Audiobooks from LibriVox are free thanks to the dedicated work of
hundreds of volunteers who record, edit and distribute the books. New
releases are prepared daily, and the entire catalog spans the breadth
of world literature, including novels, history, biography, short
stories, poetry and more in both fiction and non-fiction.

The LibriVox Audio Books app makes it easy to search for free audio
books, as well as classic radio dramas. You can browse by title,
author or genre, look at new recordings, or search by keyword.
Because the books are free, you can listen to as much or as little of
a book as you like with no cost.
The app remembers your position, so when you return to a book later,
you can start listening at the place where you left off, and includes
a sleep timer for your convenience.

To see the LibriVox catalog on the web, visit

With the downcast app, I can download
podcasts directly to the ipad mini.
can subscribe and unsubscribe to podcasts on it. With my plextalk
pocket, I can't subscribe and unsubscribe to podcasts on it. With the
other two specialized players i currently own, I can't download
podcasts to them.

My ipad mini is now my favorite device for reading books, downloading
and listening to podcasts and old time radio shows.

-----Original Message-----
From: Miriam Vieni
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 6:46 AM
Subject: Re: [bardtalk] Victor Stream List

People who use ios devices which would probably be helpful in helping
you decide. But one way to decide is to figure out what functions you
want your

new device to perform. If you're just wanting it for reading and

books, listening to radio stations and podcasts, then the stream will
do the

trick. If you want a little portable computer that will act as a phone
and easily do searches for information for you in addition, then
that's a whole

different ballgame. I also think that some blind people get keyboards
to attach to their ios devices that make them easier to use. There's a
lot to investigate. By the way, the second gen stream has 4 gigs of
storage space which is more than enough if you transfer downloaded
books to storage cards

and you don't have 100 podcast feeds as some folks do. And there's a
whole specific group of podcasts in which you might be interested,
that are not included in the ones listed on the stream. Also, podcasts
can be transferred

to the SD card as well.

MiriamI know that there is an email group for

-----Original Message-----
From: <> On Behalf Of Roger Loran
Bailey via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2018 9:01 PM
Subject: Re: [bardtalk] Victor Stream List

Do I really want to upgrade? Well, kind of. And this gives me
something of an excuse to finally take the plunge. But as far as I
know the only thing wrong with is the battery and I hesitate to take a
plunge that I would not have taken if it had not been for this one
little thing. I am not the type who leaps before I look and, in fact,
I tend to look so long that I am slow

at taking leaps at all. I think I will, at least, ask Humanware about
a new

battery. But I am also thinking that this might just be the excuse I
need to

get an IOS device and that takes even more consideration, iPad, iPad
Mini, iPod? And just how hard would it be to learn all the gestures to
be used on

a touch screen device?

On 6/10/2018 7:37 PM, Pamela Dominguez wrote:
Why don't you contact them at Humanware and find out if you can get a
battery for it. It nothing else is wrong, it would be a waste to get
rid of it if you could. If you also want to upgrade, that's a whole
different kettle of fish. Pam.

-----Original Message----- From: Roger Loran Bailey via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2018 11:46 AM
To: Bardtalk
Subject: [bardtalk] Victor Stream List

I understand that the Victor Reader Stream users list has been having
problems lately. Has that been resolved? I used to be a subscriber,
but then the second generation of the Stream came out and eventually
that was the only Stream that was being discussed on that list and
because I was still using the first generation Stream I unsubscribed.
But lately I have been having a problem with my Stream. I have had it
for about ten years now and it appears that the battery is now shot.
I can give it a full charge and then leave it turned off overnight
and the next morning I turn it on and it immediately announces
battery very low, powering off. I can still use it as long as I keep
it plugged in with the power cord, but I
sure can't go anywhere with it.
Because it is not being made now and so is obsolete I suspect that it
would be very hard to get a replacement battery. So I am
contemplating upgrading to a newer model.
The choice would be between the second generation Stream and the
Victor Reader Trek, but I don't know yet which I would prefer. There
is also the choice of finally getting an IOS device, but I am a
little afraid of that because they are not made for us blind people
and learning to use the touch screen is a bit daunting. I am
supposing that the best place to get help in making up my mind would
be the Stream users list, but if it is malfunctioning and I would
only get sporadic messages it wouldn't be of much use to me. So, is
it working now or if it is not do any of you know of some other list
that could help me make up my mind about what to upgrade to?

Joshua Hendrickson

Joshua Hendrickson



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