On Sep 23, 2019, at 10:32 AM, Steve Jacobson <steve.jacobson@...> wrote:

Does anybody have experience with using a uni-directional microphone to record a presenter at a meeting from the audience? I know there are directional microphones that work well to allow a speaker to be picked up at a close range while suppressing feedback, for example, but I am interested in being able to better pick up a speaker from, say, the first row in the audience. Any thoughts on what degree this is practical would also be of interest.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

Hello,

A portable cardioid or shot-gun microphone taken by each speaker will give the best results but there is going to be some handling noise. Unless the mics are very expensive.

The common terms are omni-directional and figure 8 polar patterns that may meet the criteria as expressed.

The choice of microphone depends upon the quality desired and the money available. In addition to the event’s structure and location. If all participants are co-operative.

Gena

On 23 Sep 2019, at 22:09, tim cumings <thcumings@...> wrote:

Hi, Steve.
It depends what type of microphone you are talking about. If you mean a standard cardioid microphone, that might work fairly well. If you meansomething that is even more directional, like a shotgun microphone, it might be difficult if there are multiple speakers on the stage, since you would have to move the microphone back and forth to capture the audio from all the speakers.
Also in this particular situation I would advise that you use headphones to insure you are getting the best possible recording.

On Sep 23, 2019, at 10:32 AM, Steve Jacobson <steve.jacobson@...> wrote:

Does anybody have experience with using a uni-directional microphone to record a presenter at a meeting from the audience? I know there are directional microphones that work well to allow a speaker to be picked up at a close range while suppressing feedback, for example, but I am interested in being able to better pick up a speaker from, say, the first row in the audience. Any thoughts on what degree this is practical would also be of interest.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

Gena

Call: M0EBP
DMR ID: 2346259
Loc: IO83PS
73

A pair of Matched SE-7s should do. I was going to ask if it had to be dynamic or condencer but he says he'll be in the audiance so that means he's pretty far. No not realy but I'm not sure how far dynamics hear. So SE-7s would do. They're only $199 for a stereo matched pair.

On 9/23/2019 6:54 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote:

Hello,

A portable cardioid or shot-gun microphone taken by each speaker will give the best results but there is going to be some handling noise. Unless the mics are very expensive.

The common terms are omni-directional and figure 8 polar patterns that may meet the criteria as expressed.

The choice of microphone depends upon the quality desired and the money available. In addition to the event’s structure and location.  If all participants are co-operative.

Gena

On 23 Sep 2019, at 22:09, tim cumings <thcumings@...> wrote:

Hi, Steve.
It depends what type of microphone you are talking about. If you mean a standard cardioid microphone, that might work fairly well. If you meansomething that is even more directional, like a shotgun microphone, it might be difficult if there are multiple speakers on the stage, since you would have to move the microphone back and forth to capture the audio from all the speakers.
Also in this particular situation I would advise that you use headphones to insure you are getting the best possible recording.

On Sep 23, 2019, at 10:32 AM, Steve Jacobson <steve.jacobson@...> wrote:

Does anybody have experience with using a uni-directional microphone to record a presenter at a meeting from the audience?  I know there are directional microphones that work well to allow a speaker to be picked up at a close range while suppressing feedback, for example, but I am interested in being able to better pick up a speaker from, say, the first row in the audience.  Any thoughts on what degree this is practical would also be of interest.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

Gena

Call: M0EBP
DMR ID: 2346259
Loc: IO83PS
73

I would not recommend a figure 8 pattern if you are sitting in the
audience and want to record the people on stage. A firugre eight
microphone picks up equally from the front and the back of the mic, so
it would pick up the audience as well as the people on stage. You
probably want a pair  of cardioid or shotgun microphones.


On 9/23/2019 10:13 PM, Hamit Campos wrote:

A pair of Matched SE-7s should do. I was going to ask if it had to be
dynamic or condencer but he says he'll be in the audiance so that
means he's pretty far. No not realy but I'm not sure how far dynamics
hear. So SE-7s would do. They're only $199 for a stereo matched pair.

On 9/23/2019 6:54 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote:

Hello,

A portable cardioid or shot-gun microphone taken by each speaker will
give the best results but there is going to be some handling noise.
Unless the mics are very expensive.

The common terms are omni-directional and figure 8 polar patterns
that may meet the criteria as expressed.

The choice of microphone depends upon the quality desired and the
money available. In addition to the event’s structure and location.
If all participants are co-operative.

Gena

On 23 Sep 2019, at 22:09, tim cumings <thcumings@...> wrote:

Hi, Steve.
It depends what type of microphone you are talking about. If you
mean a standard cardioid microphone, that might work fairly well. If
you meansomething that is even more directional, like a shotgun
microphone, it might be difficult if there are multiple speakers on
the stage, since you would have to move the microphone back and
forth to capture the audio from all the speakers.
Also in this particular situation I would advise that you use
headphones to insure you are getting the best possible recording.

On Sep 23, 2019, at 10:32 AM, Steve Jacobson
<steve.jacobson@...> wrote:

Does anybody have experience with using a uni-directional
microphone to record a presenter at a meeting from the audience?  I
know there are directional microphones that work well to allow a
speaker to be picked up at a close range while suppressing
feedback, for example, but I am interested in being able to better
pick up a speaker from, say, the first row in the audience.  Any
thoughts on what degree this is practical would also be of interest.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

Gena

Call: M0EBP
DMR ID: 2346259
Loc: IO83PS
73

On Sep 23, 2019, at 10:48 PM, Kelly Pierce <kellytalk@...> wrote:

I use a dynamic microphone because I figure it is easier to choose one
rather than have many different kinds. My gear is going to be slung
around my neck and shoulders and travel on a city bus or train so I
can’t carry a lot of stuff, like people who drive. It is best to avoid
recording from a distance if you want a quality recording. If the
speaker will be on a public address system, work to get connected to
the sound board and record directly from there. When that is not
possible, I put my microphone right in front of the audio output box
and record the speaker output.

If the person is not using audio amplification, I have a tripod
microphone stand with an extendable boom. I have both 25 foot and 50
foot microphone cords. I can sit far away from the speaker and record
everything. I have been known to wear big over the ear headphones and
follow the speaker with my microphone stand when he walks away
slightly. I am told it looks a little weird in the room, but I am
after a good recording.

Kelly


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On 9/23/19, tim cumings <thcumings@...> wrote:
I would not recommend a figure 8 pattern if you are sitting in the
audience and want to record the people on stage. A firugre eight
microphone picks up equally from the front and the back of the mic, so
it would pick up the audience as well as the people on stage. You
probably want a pair of cardioid or shotgun microphones.

On 9/23/2019 10:13 PM, Hamit Campos wrote:
A pair of Matched SE-7s should do. I was going to ask if it had to be
dynamic or condencer but he says he'll be in the audiance so that
means he's pretty far. No not realy but I'm not sure how far dynamics
hear. So SE-7s would do. They're only $199 for a stereo matched pair.

On 9/23/2019 6:54 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
Hello,

A portable cardioid or shot-gun microphone taken by each speaker will
give the best results but there is going to be some handling noise.
Unless the mics are very expensive.

The common terms are omni-directional and figure 8 polar patterns
that may meet the criteria as expressed.

The choice of microphone depends upon the quality desired and the
money available. In addition to the event’s structure and location.
If all participants are co-operative.

Gena

On 23 Sep 2019, at 22:09, tim cumings <thcumings@...> wrote:

Hi, Steve.
It depends what type of microphone you are talking about. If you
mean a standard cardioid microphone, that might work fairly well. If
you meansomething that is even more directional, like a shotgun
microphone, it might be difficult if there are multiple speakers on
the stage, since you would have to move the microphone back and
forth to capture the audio from all the speakers.
Also in this particular situation I would advise that you use
headphones to insure you are getting the best possible recording.

On Sep 23, 2019, at 10:32 AM, Steve Jacobson
<steve.jacobson@...> wrote:

Does anybody have experience with using a uni-directional
microphone to record a presenter at a meeting from the audience? I
know there are directional microphones that work well to allow a
speaker to be picked up at a close range while suppressing
feedback, for example, but I am interested in being able to better
pick up a speaker from, say, the first row in the audience. Any
thoughts on what degree this is practical would also be of interest.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

Gena

Call: M0EBP
DMR ID: 2346259
Loc: IO83PS
73

I would not recommend a figure 8 pattern if you are sitting in the audience and want to record the people on stage. A firugre eight microphone picks up equally from the front and the back of the mic, so it would pick up the audience as well as the people on stage. You probably want a pair  of cardioid or shotgun microphones.


On 9/23/2019 10:13 PM, Hamit Campos wrote:

A pair of Matched SE-7s should do. I was going to ask if it had to be dynamic or condencer but he says he'll be in the audiance so that means he's pretty far. No not realy but I'm not sure how far dynamics hear. So SE-7s would do. They're only $199 for a stereo matched pair.

On 9/23/2019 6:54 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote:

Hello,

A portable cardioid or shot-gun microphone taken by each speaker will give the best results but there is going to be some handling noise. Unless the mics are very expensive.

The common terms are omni-directional and figure 8 polar patterns that may meet the criteria as expressed.

The choice of microphone depends upon the quality desired and the money available. In addition to the event’s structure and location.  If all participants are co-operative.

Gena

On 23 Sep 2019, at 22:09, tim cumings <thcumings@...> wrote:

Hi, Steve.
It depends what type of microphone you are talking about. If you mean a standard cardioid microphone, that might work fairly well. If you meansomething that is even more directional, like a shotgun microphone, it might be difficult if there are multiple speakers on the stage, since you would have to move the microphone back and forth to capture the audio from all the speakers.
Also in this particular situation I would advise that you use headphones to insure you are getting the best possible recording.

On Sep 23, 2019, at 10:32 AM, Steve Jacobson <steve.jacobson@...> wrote:

Does anybody have experience with using a uni-directional microphone to record a presenter at a meeting from the audience?  I know there are directional microphones that work well to allow a speaker to be picked up at a close range while suppressing feedback, for example, but I am interested in being able to better pick up a speaker from, say, the first row in the audience.  Any thoughts on what degree this is practical would also be of interest.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

Gena

Call: M0EBP
DMR ID: 2346259
Loc: IO83PS
73

I would not recommend a figure 8 pattern if you are sitting in the
audience and want to record the people on stage. A firugre eight
microphone picks up equally from the front and the back of the mic, so
it would pick up the audience as well as the people on stage. You
probably want a pair  of cardioid or shotgun microphones.


On 9/23/2019 10:13 PM, Hamit Campos wrote:

A pair of Matched SE-7s should do. I was going to ask if it had to be
dynamic or condencer but he says he'll be in the audiance so that
means he's pretty far. No not realy but I'm not sure how far dynamics
hear. So SE-7s would do. They're only $199 for a stereo matched pair.

On 9/23/2019 6:54 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote:

Hello,

A portable cardioid or shot-gun microphone taken by each speaker
will give the best results but there is going to be some handling
noise. Unless the mics are very expensive.

The common terms are omni-directional and figure 8 polar patterns
that may meet the criteria as expressed.

The choice of microphone depends upon the quality desired and the
money available. In addition to the event’s structure and location. 
If all participants are co-operative.

Gena

On 23 Sep 2019, at 22:09, tim cumings <thcumings@...> wrote:

Hi, Steve.
It depends what type of microphone you are talking about. If you
mean a standard cardioid microphone, that might work fairly well.
If you meansomething that is even more directional, like a shotgun
microphone, it might be difficult if there are multiple speakers on
the stage, since you would have to move the microphone back and
forth to capture the audio from all the speakers.
Also in this particular situation I would advise that you use
headphones to insure you are getting the best possible recording.

On Sep 23, 2019, at 10:32 AM, Steve Jacobson
<steve.jacobson@...> wrote:

Does anybody have experience with using a uni-directional
microphone to record a presenter at a meeting from the audience? 
I know there are directional microphones that work well to allow a
speaker to be picked up at a close range while suppressing
feedback, for example, but I am interested in being able to better
pick up a speaker from, say, the first row in the audience.  Any
thoughts on what degree this is practical would also be of interest.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

Gena

Call: M0EBP
DMR ID: 2346259
Loc: IO83PS
73

I would not recommend a figure 8 pattern if you are sitting in the
audience and want to record the people on stage. A firugre eight
microphone picks up equally from the front and the back of the mic, so
it would pick up the audience as well as the people on stage. You
probably want a pair  of cardioid or shotgun microphones.


On 9/23/2019 10:13 PM, Hamit Campos wrote:

A pair of Matched SE-7s should do. I was going to ask if it had to be
dynamic or condencer but he says he'll be in the audiance so that
means he's pretty far. No not realy but I'm not sure how far dynamics
hear. So SE-7s would do. They're only $199 for a stereo matched pair.

On 9/23/2019 6:54 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote:

Hello,

A portable cardioid or shot-gun microphone taken by each speaker
will give the best results but there is going to be some handling
noise. Unless the mics are very expensive.

The common terms are omni-directional and figure 8 polar patterns
that may meet the criteria as expressed.

The choice of microphone depends upon the quality desired and the
money available. In addition to the event’s structure and location. 
If all participants are co-operative.

Gena

On 23 Sep 2019, at 22:09, tim cumings <thcumings@...> wrote:

Hi, Steve.
It depends what type of microphone you are talking about. If you
mean a standard cardioid microphone, that might work fairly well.
If you meansomething that is even more directional, like a shotgun
microphone, it might be difficult if there are multiple speakers on
the stage, since you would have to move the microphone back and
forth to capture the audio from all the speakers.
Also in this particular situation I would advise that you use
headphones to insure you are getting the best possible recording.

On Sep 23, 2019, at 10:32 AM, Steve Jacobson
<steve.jacobson@...> wrote:

Does anybody have experience with using a uni-directional
microphone to record a presenter at a meeting from the audience? 
I know there are directional microphones that work well to allow a
speaker to be picked up at a close range while suppressing
feedback, for example, but I am interested in being able to better
pick up a speaker from, say, the first row in the audience.  Any
thoughts on what degree this is practical would also be of interest.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

Gena

Call: M0EBP
DMR ID: 2346259
Loc: IO83PS
73

I would not recommend a figure 8 pattern if you are sitting in the
audience and want to record the people on stage. A firugre eight
microphone picks up equally from the front and the back of the mic, so
it would pick up the audience as well as the people on stage. You
probably want a pair  of cardioid or shotgun microphones.


On 9/23/2019 10:13 PM, Hamit Campos wrote:

A pair of Matched SE-7s should do. I was going to ask if it had to be
dynamic or condencer but he says he'll be in the audiance so that
means he's pretty far. No not realy but I'm not sure how far dynamics
hear. So SE-7s would do. They're only $199 for a stereo matched pair.

On 9/23/2019 6:54 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote:

Hello,

A portable cardioid or shot-gun microphone taken by each speaker
will give the best results but there is going to be some handling
noise. Unless the mics are very expensive.

The common terms are omni-directional and figure 8 polar patterns
that may meet the criteria as expressed.

The choice of microphone depends upon the quality desired and the
money available. In addition to the event’s structure and location. 
If all participants are co-operative.

Gena

On 23 Sep 2019, at 22:09, tim cumings <thcumings@...> wrote:

Hi, Steve.
It depends what type of microphone you are talking about. If you
mean a standard cardioid microphone, that might work fairly well.
If you meansomething that is even more directional, like a shotgun
microphone, it might be difficult if there are multiple speakers on
the stage, since you would have to move the microphone back and
forth to capture the audio from all the speakers.
Also in this particular situation I would advise that you use
headphones to insure you are getting the best possible recording.

On Sep 23, 2019, at 10:32 AM, Steve Jacobson
<steve.jacobson@...> wrote:

Does anybody have experience with using a uni-directional
microphone to record a presenter at a meeting from the audience? 
I know there are directional microphones that work well to allow a
speaker to be picked up at a close range while suppressing
feedback, for example, but I am interested in being able to better
pick up a speaker from, say, the first row in the audience.  Any
thoughts on what degree this is practical would also be of interest.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

Gena

Call: M0EBP
DMR ID: 2346259
Loc: IO83PS
73

Of course they do hear equally from the front and back but usually they are
what is called a "side addressed" mic in that the xlr connector sticks out
of the top or bottom and technically they pick up equally from both sides.
It is not generally a best choice except when used with another
directional element to pick up from the front.


Frank


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What's a figure 8 mic look like? I keep hearing they hear from the frunt
and back. What's that mean? So hear's what I emagin. Something like an
SM58 but as well as hearing you at the front end like the 58 it heard
you even if you're talking at the XLR end of it. Sorry if this isn't too
clear but again I've not used a true figure 8. Only the H6's little mid
side ball. But not a true studio figure 8 capable mic. Well I guess my
question might be hard to answer as I guess it depends on what company
made the mic and what said mic looks like. Also I ask because I was
talking to someone and I said that I figure that the human ear drum if
compaired to mics would I suspect be omni patterned. Than in replay to
that comment someone figured they'd be figure 8. But again if figure 8
mics work as I suspect from what people say about them that doesn't add
up. Because why than do you hear things in front of your head and right
in back? Figure 8 would be a strange pattern.

On 9/23/2019 10:30 PM, tim cumings wrote:

I would not recommend a figure 8 pattern if you are sitting in the
audience and want to record the people on stage. A firugre eight
microphone picks up equally from the front and the back of the mic, so
it would pick up the audience as well as the people on stage. You
probably want a pair  of cardioid or shotgun microphones.


On 9/23/2019 10:13 PM, Hamit Campos wrote:

A pair of Matched SE-7s should do. I was going to ask if it had to be
dynamic or condencer but he says he'll be in the audiance so that
means he's pretty far. No not realy but I'm not sure how far dynamics
hear. So SE-7s would do. They're only $199 for a stereo matched pair.

On 9/23/2019 6:54 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote:

Hello,

A portable cardioid or shot-gun microphone taken by each speaker
will give the best results but there is going to be some handling
noise. Unless the mics are very expensive.

The common terms are omni-directional and figure 8 polar patterns
that may meet the criteria as expressed.

The choice of microphone depends upon the quality desired and the
money available. In addition to the event’s structure and location.
If all participants are co-operative.

Gena

On 23 Sep 2019, at 22:09, tim cumings <thcumings@...> wrote:

Hi, Steve.
It depends what type of microphone you are talking about. If you
mean a standard cardioid microphone, that might work fairly well.
If you meansomething that is even more directional, like a shotgun
microphone, it might be difficult if there are multiple speakers on
the stage, since you would have to move the microphone back and
forth to capture the audio from all the speakers.
Also in this particular situation I would advise that you use
headphones to insure you are getting the best possible recording.

On Sep 23, 2019, at 10:32 AM, Steve Jacobson
<steve.jacobson@...> wrote:

Does anybody have experience with using a uni-directional
microphone to record a presenter at a meeting from the audience?
I know there are directional microphones that work well to allow a
speaker to be picked up at a close range while suppressing
feedback, for example, but I am interested in being able to better
pick up a speaker from, say, the first row in the audience.  Any
thoughts on what degree this is practical would also be of interest.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

Gena

Call: M0EBP
DMR ID: 2346259
Loc: IO83PS
73

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A pair of Matched SE-7s should do. I was going to ask if it had to be
dynamic or condencer but he says he'll be in the audiance so that
means he's pretty far. No not realy but I'm not sure how far dynamics
hear. So SE-7s would do. They're only $199 for a stereo matched pair.

On 9/23/2019 6:54 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote:

Hello,

A portable cardioid or shot-gun microphone taken by each speaker will
give the best results but there is going to be some handling noise.
Unless the mics are very expensive.

The common terms are omni-directional and figure 8 polar patterns
that may meet the criteria as expressed.

The choice of microphone depends upon the quality desired and the
money available. In addition to the event’s structure and location. 
If all participants are co-operative.

Gena

On 23 Sep 2019, at 22:09, tim cumings <thcumings@...> wrote:

Hi, Steve.
It depends what type of microphone you are talking about. If you
mean a standard cardioid microphone, that might work fairly well. If
you meansomething that is even more directional, like a shotgun
microphone, it might be difficult if there are multiple speakers on
the stage, since you would have to move the microphone back and
forth to capture the audio from all the speakers.
Also in this particular situation I would advise that you use
headphones to insure you are getting the best possible recording.

On Sep 23, 2019, at 10:32 AM, Steve Jacobson
<steve.jacobson@...> wrote:

Does anybody have experience with using a uni-directional
microphone to record a presenter at a meeting from the audience?  I
know there are directional microphones that work well to allow a
speaker to be picked up at a close range while suppressing
feedback, for example, but I am interested in being able to better
pick up a speaker from, say, the first row in the audience.  Any
thoughts on what degree this is practical would also be of interest.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

Gena

Call: M0EBP
DMR ID: 2346259
Loc: IO83PS
73