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The Complete Audio 2

Hamit Campos
 

Wow just red about the Complete audio 2 on Sweet Water's page. It does 192 KHZ 24 bits full HD audio. For only $139. Awesome. I'll check out the demos tomorow because I can't think a 139$ thing would sound any better than a 400$ Zoom H6. Even if it does do full 192 KHZ. Still though Full HD for only 139 bucks, pretty good deal for someone starting out me thinks.

Georgina Joyce
 

Hello Hamit,

What you were looking at is an audio interface and the Zoom is a recorder. Yes the 6 can act as an interface but the Native Instruments Complete Audio is just the USB interface. What is important with interfaces is the noise floor on the pre-amps. As you use an extremely quiet mic it is important to use a pre-amp with a very low noise floor. You might be aware that the Booth Junky suggests using a fethead with the Zoom so that the pre-amps are not so noisy.

Regards,

Gena

On 15 Nov 2019, at 03:43, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

Wow just red about the Complete audio 2 on Sweet Water's page. It does 192 KHZ 24 bits full HD audio. For only $139. Awesome. I'll check out the demos tomorow because I can't think a 139$ thing would sound any better than a 400$ Zoom H6. Even if it does do full 192 KHZ. Still though Full HD for only 139 bucks, pretty good deal for someone starting out me thinks.



Gena

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Brian Olesen
 

Hi,
Exactly! I'm recommending it too.

Brian

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Wow just red about the Complete audio 2 on Sweet Water's page. It does
192 KHZ 24 bits full HD audio. For only $139. Awesome. I'll check out the demos tomorow because I can't think a 139$ thing would sound any better than a 400$ Zoom H6. Even if it does do full 192 KHZ. Still though Full HD for only 139 bucks, pretty good deal for someone starting out me thinks.

Hamit Campos
 

Ah yes I do recall him saying that. Especially for dinamic mics. Also someone else demoed a cloud lifter to pump up an SM7B on an H6. In that case that video was an SM7B mic demo more than an H6 demo. So you're saying that the pre's in this interface might be quieter then the H6 ones? Interesting. Like I said I'll check out the demos later on today.

On 11/15/2019 6:23 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
Hello Hamit,

What you were looking at is an audio interface and the Zoom is a recorder. Yes the 6 can act as an interface but the Native Instruments Complete Audio is just the USB interface. What is important with interfaces is the noise floor on the pre-amps. As you use an extremely quiet mic it is important to use a pre-amp with a very low noise floor. You might be aware that the Booth Junky suggests using a fethead with the Zoom so that the pre-amps are not so noisy.

Regards,

Gena

On 15 Nov 2019, at 03:43, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

Wow just red about the Complete audio 2 on Sweet Water's page. It does 192 KHZ 24 bits full HD audio. For only $139. Awesome. I'll check out the demos tomorow because I can't think a 139$ thing would sound any better than a 400$ Zoom H6. Even if it does do full 192 KHZ. Still though Full HD for only 139 bucks, pretty good deal for someone starting out me thinks.



Gena

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DMR ID: 2346259
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Georgina Joyce
 

Hello Hamit,

I don’t know it would require deep reading. Oh yes, the advantage of boosting the source with a fethead lowers the noise floor for dynamic mics and the fethead fantom for condensers.

I have a collection of Audient ID and Focusrite Scarlett interfaces so not in the market for a new interface.

I didn’t understand your comments regarding the cost difference between the 2 very different devices.

I would like to know how good those pre-amps are on that range of interfaces.

Regards,

Gena

On 15 Nov 2019, at 13:45, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

Ah yes I do recall him saying that. Especially for dinamic mics. Also someone else demoed a cloud lifter to pump up an SM7B on an H6. In that case that video was an SM7B mic demo more than an H6 demo. So you're saying that the pre's in this interface might be quieter then the H6 ones? Interesting. Like I said I'll check out the demos later on today.

On 11/15/2019 6:23 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
Hello Hamit,

What you were looking at is an audio interface and the Zoom is a recorder. Yes the 6 can act as an interface but the Native Instruments Complete Audio is just the USB interface. What is important with interfaces is the noise floor on the pre-amps. As you use an extremely quiet mic it is important to use a pre-amp with a very low noise floor. You might be aware that the Booth Junky suggests using a fethead with the Zoom so that the pre-amps are not so noisy.

Regards,

Gena

On 15 Nov 2019, at 03:43, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

Wow just red about the Complete audio 2 on Sweet Water's page. It does 192 KHZ 24 bits full HD audio. For only $139. Awesome. I'll check out the demos tomorow because I can't think a 139$ thing would sound any better than a 400$ Zoom H6. Even if it does do full 192 KHZ. Still though Full HD for only 139 bucks, pretty good deal for someone starting out me thinks.



Gena

Call: M0EBP
DMR ID: 2346259
Loc: IO83PS
73



Gena

Call: M0EBP
DMR ID: 2346259
Loc: IO83PS
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Hamit Campos
 

Yeah same here. Sweet Water says they are hi quality. Not saying they're trash. Don't get me wrong. I was sympaly saying just cause of the price difference I'd assume something like the H6 though more than just an interface would have better guts. Like my brother Roger likes to bring up sure the interface is 139 bucks. But how good are the guts how much are those pre's how much is the dac and so on. In other words he kinda likes to say that just because something costs 139$ don't expect your take on what a 139$ device should sound like to be true. He said this when we were talking about the LS-14 of Olympus and I was saying to him that though it was okayish it didn't seem to me to be really the little brother of the 100 like Olympus seemed to wana cell it as.

On 11/15/2019 11:21 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
Hello Hamit,

I don’t know it would require deep reading. Oh yes, the advantage of boosting the source with a fethead lowers the noise floor for dynamic mics and the fethead fantom for condensers.

I have a collection of Audient ID and Focusrite Scarlett interfaces so not in the market for a new interface.

I didn’t understand your comments regarding the cost difference between the 2 very different devices.

I would like to know how good those pre-amps are on that range of interfaces.

Regards,

Gena

On 15 Nov 2019, at 13:45, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

Ah yes I do recall him saying that. Especially for dinamic mics. Also someone else demoed a cloud lifter to pump up an SM7B on an H6. In that case that video was an SM7B mic demo more than an H6 demo. So you're saying that the pre's in this interface might be quieter then the H6 ones? Interesting. Like I said I'll check out the demos later on today.

On 11/15/2019 6:23 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
Hello Hamit,

What you were looking at is an audio interface and the Zoom is a recorder. Yes the 6 can act as an interface but the Native Instruments Complete Audio is just the USB interface. What is important with interfaces is the noise floor on the pre-amps. As you use an extremely quiet mic it is important to use a pre-amp with a very low noise floor. You might be aware that the Booth Junky suggests using a fethead with the Zoom so that the pre-amps are not so noisy.

Regards,

Gena

On 15 Nov 2019, at 03:43, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

Wow just red about the Complete audio 2 on Sweet Water's page. It does 192 KHZ 24 bits full HD audio. For only $139. Awesome. I'll check out the demos tomorow because I can't think a 139$ thing would sound any better than a 400$ Zoom H6. Even if it does do full 192 KHZ. Still though Full HD for only 139 bucks, pretty good deal for someone starting out me thinks.



Gena

Call: M0EBP
DMR ID: 2346259
Loc: IO83PS
73


Gena

Call: M0EBP
DMR ID: 2346259
Loc: IO83PS
73


Georgina Joyce
 

Hello Hamit,

The Zoom is a recorder so the cost is based on the cost of production. The interface part is a small part of it’s total.

A dedicated interface is going to have better pre-amps than a multiple function device like the Zoom.

Are you in the market for an interface?

Gena
On 15 Nov 2019, at 18:28, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

Yeah same here. Sweet Water says they are hi quality. Not saying they're trash. Don't get me wrong. I was sympaly saying just cause of the price difference I'd assume something like the H6 though more than just an interface would have better guts. Like my brother Roger likes to bring up sure the interface is 139 bucks. But how good are the guts how much are those pre's how much is the dac and so on. In other words he kinda likes to say that just because something costs 139$ don't expect your take on what a 139$ device should sound like to be true. He said this when we were talking about the LS-14 of Olympus and I was saying to him that though it was okayish it didn't seem to me to be really the little brother of the 100 like Olympus seemed to wana cell it as.

On 11/15/2019 11:21 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
Hello Hamit,

I don’t know it would require deep reading. Oh yes, the advantage of boosting the source with a fethead lowers the noise floor for dynamic mics and the fethead fantom for condensers.

I have a collection of Audient ID and Focusrite Scarlett interfaces so not in the market for a new interface.

I didn’t understand your comments regarding the cost difference between the 2 very different devices.

I would like to know how good those pre-amps are on that range of interfaces.

Regards,

Gena

On 15 Nov 2019, at 13:45, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

Ah yes I do recall him saying that. Especially for dinamic mics. Also someone else demoed a cloud lifter to pump up an SM7B on an H6. In that case that video was an SM7B mic demo more than an H6 demo. So you're saying that the pre's in this interface might be quieter then the H6 ones? Interesting. Like I said I'll check out the demos later on today.

On 11/15/2019 6:23 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
Hello Hamit,

What you were looking at is an audio interface and the Zoom is a recorder. Yes the 6 can act as an interface but the Native Instruments Complete Audio is just the USB interface. What is important with interfaces is the noise floor on the pre-amps. As you use an extremely quiet mic it is important to use a pre-amp with a very low noise floor. You might be aware that the Booth Junky suggests using a fethead with the Zoom so that the pre-amps are not so noisy.

Regards,

Gena

On 15 Nov 2019, at 03:43, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

Wow just red about the Complete audio 2 on Sweet Water's page. It does 192 KHZ 24 bits full HD audio. For only $139. Awesome. I'll check out the demos tomorow because I can't think a 139$ thing would sound any better than a 400$ Zoom H6. Even if it does do full 192 KHZ. Still though Full HD for only 139 bucks, pretty good deal for someone starting out me thinks.



Gena

Call: M0EBP
DMR ID: 2346259
Loc: IO83PS
73


Gena

Call: M0EBP
DMR ID: 2346259
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Gena

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Hamit Campos
 

I'm interested in anything that does full HD my friend. Again 139 bucks ain't bad. I'd get it totally.

On 11/15/2019 1:46 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
Hello Hamit,

The Zoom is a recorder so the cost is based on the cost of production. The interface part is a small part of it’s total.

A dedicated interface is going to have better pre-amps than a multiple function device like the Zoom.

Are you in the market for an interface?

Gena
On 15 Nov 2019, at 18:28, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

Yeah same here. Sweet Water says they are hi quality. Not saying they're trash. Don't get me wrong. I was sympaly saying just cause of the price difference I'd assume something like the H6 though more than just an interface would have better guts. Like my brother Roger likes to bring up sure the interface is 139 bucks. But how good are the guts how much are those pre's how much is the dac and so on. In other words he kinda likes to say that just because something costs 139$ don't expect your take on what a 139$ device should sound like to be true. He said this when we were talking about the LS-14 of Olympus and I was saying to him that though it was okayish it didn't seem to me to be really the little brother of the 100 like Olympus seemed to wana cell it as.

On 11/15/2019 11:21 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
Hello Hamit,

I don’t know it would require deep reading. Oh yes, the advantage of boosting the source with a fethead lowers the noise floor for dynamic mics and the fethead fantom for condensers.

I have a collection of Audient ID and Focusrite Scarlett interfaces so not in the market for a new interface.

I didn’t understand your comments regarding the cost difference between the 2 very different devices.

I would like to know how good those pre-amps are on that range of interfaces.

Regards,

Gena

On 15 Nov 2019, at 13:45, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

Ah yes I do recall him saying that. Especially for dinamic mics. Also someone else demoed a cloud lifter to pump up an SM7B on an H6. In that case that video was an SM7B mic demo more than an H6 demo. So you're saying that the pre's in this interface might be quieter then the H6 ones? Interesting. Like I said I'll check out the demos later on today.

On 11/15/2019 6:23 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
Hello Hamit,

What you were looking at is an audio interface and the Zoom is a recorder. Yes the 6 can act as an interface but the Native Instruments Complete Audio is just the USB interface. What is important with interfaces is the noise floor on the pre-amps. As you use an extremely quiet mic it is important to use a pre-amp with a very low noise floor. You might be aware that the Booth Junky suggests using a fethead with the Zoom so that the pre-amps are not so noisy.

Regards,

Gena

On 15 Nov 2019, at 03:43, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

Wow just red about the Complete audio 2 on Sweet Water's page. It does 192 KHZ 24 bits full HD audio. For only $139. Awesome. I'll check out the demos tomorow because I can't think a 139$ thing would sound any better than a 400$ Zoom H6. Even if it does do full 192 KHZ. Still though Full HD for only 139 bucks, pretty good deal for someone starting out me thinks.



Gena

Call: M0EBP
DMR ID: 2346259
Loc: IO83PS
73


Gena

Call: M0EBP
DMR ID: 2346259
Loc: IO83PS
73


Gena

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Georgina Joyce
 

Hello Hamit,

Well ask about the drivers required. Sadly, some functionality is done via a driver on some devices. I wanted an ID22 the interface that the Booth Junky uses. But their support told me that some work was being done in terms of accessibility. But at this moment in time it was not and on the 22 a significant part of it’s functions are controlled by software.

Regards,

Gena
On 15 Nov 2019, at 18:53, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

I'm interested in anything that does full HD my friend. Again 139 bucks ain't bad. I'd get it totally.

On 11/15/2019 1:46 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
Hello Hamit,

The Zoom is a recorder so the cost is based on the cost of production. The interface part is a small part of it’s total.

A dedicated interface is going to have better pre-amps than a multiple function device like the Zoom.

Are you in the market for an interface?

Gena
On 15 Nov 2019, at 18:28, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

Yeah same here. Sweet Water says they are hi quality. Not saying they're trash. Don't get me wrong. I was sympaly saying just cause of the price difference I'd assume something like the H6 though more than just an interface would have better guts. Like my brother Roger likes to bring up sure the interface is 139 bucks. But how good are the guts how much are those pre's how much is the dac and so on. In other words he kinda likes to say that just because something costs 139$ don't expect your take on what a 139$ device should sound like to be true. He said this when we were talking about the LS-14 of Olympus and I was saying to him that though it was okayish it didn't seem to me to be really the little brother of the 100 like Olympus seemed to wana cell it as.

On 11/15/2019 11:21 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
Hello Hamit,

I don’t know it would require deep reading. Oh yes, the advantage of boosting the source with a fethead lowers the noise floor for dynamic mics and the fethead fantom for condensers.

I have a collection of Audient ID and Focusrite Scarlett interfaces so not in the market for a new interface.

I didn’t understand your comments regarding the cost difference between the 2 very different devices.

I would like to know how good those pre-amps are on that range of interfaces.

Regards,

Gena

On 15 Nov 2019, at 13:45, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

Ah yes I do recall him saying that. Especially for dinamic mics. Also someone else demoed a cloud lifter to pump up an SM7B on an H6. In that case that video was an SM7B mic demo more than an H6 demo. So you're saying that the pre's in this interface might be quieter then the H6 ones? Interesting. Like I said I'll check out the demos later on today.

On 11/15/2019 6:23 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
Hello Hamit,

What you were looking at is an audio interface and the Zoom is a recorder. Yes the 6 can act as an interface but the Native Instruments Complete Audio is just the USB interface. What is important with interfaces is the noise floor on the pre-amps. As you use an extremely quiet mic it is important to use a pre-amp with a very low noise floor. You might be aware that the Booth Junky suggests using a fethead with the Zoom so that the pre-amps are not so noisy.

Regards,

Gena

On 15 Nov 2019, at 03:43, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

Wow just red about the Complete audio 2 on Sweet Water's page. It does 192 KHZ 24 bits full HD audio. For only $139. Awesome. I'll check out the demos tomorow because I can't think a 139$ thing would sound any better than a 400$ Zoom H6. Even if it does do full 192 KHZ. Still though Full HD for only 139 bucks, pretty good deal for someone starting out me thinks.



Gena

Call: M0EBP
DMR ID: 2346259
Loc: IO83PS
73


Gena

Call: M0EBP
DMR ID: 2346259
Loc: IO83PS
73


Gena

Call: M0EBP
DMR ID: 2346259
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73


Gena

Call: M0EBP
DMR ID: 2346259
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