sound cards


John Heath
 

Can a good sound card make a difference in sound quality of music?


Hamit Campos
 

Yes perhaps. Especially if they have no strange effects.

On 10/23/2020 10:24 PM, John Heath via groups.io wrote:
Can a good sound card make a difference in sound quality of music?




Andy
 

Hi John.

In my own experience, they certainly do make a great difference.

I have 2 Creative Labs external sound cards. However, both are now about 10 years old. The two I have have an Optic cable outlet and my previous AV unit had an optic input. My study speakers are Small Quad speakers of a high quality.

However my new AV unit, an Arcam, takes an HDMI plug. I'm not sure if it also uses Optic as I think these connections are being replaced by HDMI.

If you look at Creative labs, the new generation of external cards should also have HDMI and if that's the case, then I'll be following you and getting a few.

I may be wrong, but what I've noticed in recent years is that the quality of sound coming from my new Dell tower is almost identical as the sound from my much less expensive HP Flat-top, as though internal cards are in the main, Generic.

As these cards are not really too expensive, It would be worth checking them out a little.


Very best wishes.

Andy.

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Brian Olesen
 

HI,
Yes, and no.
The obvious answer is off course yes, but there can be factors that makes
bumps on the way.
The dac is an extremely important component, and some of the better cards
has really good dacs.
But the usb port of your computer can create unwanted noise that will
disturb the final result.

Best regards
Brian
Brian

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John Heath
 

Thanks!

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Hi John.

In my own experience, they certainly do make a great difference.

I have 2 Creative Labs external sound cards. However, both are now about 10
years old. The two I have have an Optic cable outlet and my previous AV
unit had an optic input. My study speakers are Small Quad speakers of a
high quality.

However my new AV unit, an Arcam, takes an HDMI plug. I'm not sure if it
also uses Optic as I think these connections are being replaced by HDMI.

If you look at Creative labs, the new generation of external cards should
also have HDMI and if that's the case, then I'll be following you and
getting a few.

I may be wrong, but what I've noticed in recent years is that the quality of
sound coming from my new Dell tower is almost identical as the sound from my
much less expensive HP Flat-top, as though internal cards are in the main,
Generic.

As these cards are not really too expensive, It would be worth checking
them out a little.


Very best wishes.

Andy.
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Hamit Campos
 

Yes and I forgot to expand on this last night. Not only that. I have seen that depending on the PC you will get a different flavor as well. But over all yeah a soundcard would be better. Realtek is adding too many strange effects to their internal audio. Which is a shame because brightness and sometimes especially if you could shut the weerd bathroom echo like effects the panning could be very much awesome. Sye too bad the best sounding PC for my ears is so mad expensive and meh maybe too much PC for most. I'm talking of corse about the MSI Trident. Man that thing sounds glorious.

On 10/24/2020 7:06 AM, Brian Olesen wrote:
HI,
Yes, and no.
The obvious answer is off course yes, but there can be factors that makes
bumps on the way.
The dac is an extremely important component, and some of the better cards
has really good dacs.
But the usb port of your computer can create unwanted noise that will
disturb the final result.

Best regards
Brian
Brian

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Hamit Campos
 

Hi I don't know about your AVR. However I can say that yes some better Onkyos Marantzs and so on do have optic. For adding more atmos channals and also for recordplayers and what not. I forget if my cheep TX-SR-373 does though. But in any event yes some do. On the subject of HDMI I don't know if the origenal poster has HDMI on his PC. If you do and if you do have an AVR meh just HDMI the sucker into your AVR. One could also get USB speakers. Like my Bose Companion 5 multimedia system which is saddly discontinued but I think I saw 1 on Amazon. Whilst we're talking soundcards, does any one heare have the Z soundblaster or the better ZXR? what make you of it if you do? Should I bother with either? I know they won't perhaps be MSI Trident motherboard audio but meh I'll take better than what ever the hell Dell used in the XPS.

On 10/24/2020 5:41 AM, Andy via groups.io wrote:
Hi John.

In my own experience, they certainly do make a great difference.

I have 2 Creative Labs external sound cards.  However, both are now about 10 years old.  The two I have have an Optic cable outlet and my previous AV unit had an optic input.  My study speakers are Small Quad speakers of a high quality.

However my new AV unit, an Arcam,  takes an HDMI  plug.  I'm not sure if it also uses Optic as I think these connections are being replaced by HDMI.

If you look at Creative labs, the new generation of external cards should also have HDMI and if that's the case, then I'll be following  you and getting a few.

I may be wrong, but what I've noticed in recent years is that the quality of sound coming from my new Dell tower is almost identical as the sound from my much less expensive HP Flat-top, as though internal cards are in the main, Generic.

As these cards are not really  too expensive, It would be worth checking them  out a little.


Very best wishes.

Andy.
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John Heath
 

First thanks to you and list for answering. I'm getting a Dell; don't ask which model I don't know. I was asking because my friend-technician whose is going to install tells me this tower is quite expandable.

-----Original Message-----
From: Hamit Campos
Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2020 12:08 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] sound cards

Yes and I forgot to expand on this last night. Not only that. I have
seen that depending on the PC you will get a different flavor as well.
But over all yeah a soundcard would be better. Realtek is adding too
many strange effects to their internal audio. Which is a shame because
brightness and sometimes especially if you could shut the weerd bathroom
echo like effects the panning could be very much awesome. Sye too bad
the best sounding PC for my ears is so mad expensive and meh maybe too
much PC for most. I'm talking of corse about the MSI Trident. Man that
thing sounds glorious.

On 10/24/2020 7:06 AM, Brian Olesen wrote:
HI,
Yes, and no.
The obvious answer is off course yes, but there can be factors that makes
bumps on the way.
The dac is an extremely important component, and some of the better cards
has really good dacs.
But the usb port of your computer can create unwanted noise that will
disturb the final result.

Best regards
Brian
Brian

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Hamit Campos
 

Ah okay. Well 2 things then. It's brand spanking new right? Like you either ordered dirrectly from Dell or bought at a store right now today in 2020? Here's why I ask this. If it's a new tower no matter what model it will indeed have HDMI. We won't go into an HDMI version debate because I don't know if you are going to watch Blu-Ray disks. So for the topic at hand 1 yes your friend is right. Get a Soundblaster Z at least. I'd say but let's wait to hear from someone who has 1 on how it sounds. Asus makes soundcards too apparently. Let's here oh and back to HDMI though if you do have a new TV with HdMI or an AVR with HDMI then like I said before meh just grab a cable and hook that sucker in. I probabally should grab a card though too for those rare times I use it. Mostly I use either my bose speakers or my Zoom H6 as an audio interface which by the way meh it's just a fancy pro word for fancy pro soundcard.

On 10/24/2020 12:32 PM, John Heath via groups.io wrote:
First thanks to you and list for answering. I'm getting a Dell; don't ask which model I don't know. I was asking because my friend-technician whose is going to install tells me this tower is quite expandable.

-----Original Message----- From: Hamit Campos
Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2020 12:08 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] sound cards

Yes and I forgot to expand on this last night. Not only that. I have
seen that depending on the PC you will get a different flavor as well.
But over all yeah a soundcard would be better. Realtek is adding too
many strange effects to their internal audio. Which is a shame because
brightness and sometimes especially if you could shut the weerd bathroom
echo like effects the panning could be very much awesome. Sye too bad
the best sounding PC for my ears is so mad expensive and meh maybe too
much PC for most. I'm talking of corse about the MSI Trident. Man that
thing sounds glorious.

On 10/24/2020 7:06 AM, Brian Olesen wrote:
HI,
Yes, and no.
The obvious answer is off course yes, but there can be factors that makes
bumps on the way.
The dac is an extremely important component, and some of the better cards
has really good dacs.
But the usb port of your computer can create unwanted noise that will
disturb the final result.

Best regards
Brian
Brian

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John Heath
 

Being legally blind I won't be watching much blue ray. The difference with my kind of vision would be minimal.

-----Original Message-----
From: Hamit Campos
Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2020 12:38 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] sound cards

Ah okay. Well 2 things then. It's brand spanking new right? Like you
either ordered dirrectly from Dell or bought at a store right now today
in 2020? Here's why I ask this. If it's a new tower no matter what model
it will indeed have HDMI. We won't go into an HDMI version debate
because I don't know if you are going to watch Blu-Ray disks. So for the
topic at hand 1 yes your friend is right. Get a Soundblaster Z at least.
I'd say but let's wait to hear from someone who has 1 on how it sounds.
Asus makes soundcards too apparently. Let's here oh and back to HDMI
though if you do have a new TV with HdMI or an AVR with HDMI then like I
said before meh just grab a cable and hook that sucker in. I probabally
should grab a card though too for those rare times I use it. Mostly I
use either my bose speakers or my Zoom H6 as an audio interface which by
the way meh it's just a fancy pro word for fancy pro soundcard.

On 10/24/2020 12:32 PM, John Heath via groups.io wrote:
First thanks to you and list for answering. I'm getting a Dell; don't ask which model I don't know. I was asking because my friend-technician whose is going to install tells me this tower is quite expandable.

-----Original Message----- From: Hamit Campos
Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2020 12:08 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] sound cards

Yes and I forgot to expand on this last night. Not only that. I have
seen that depending on the PC you will get a different flavor as well.
But over all yeah a soundcard would be better. Realtek is adding too
many strange effects to their internal audio. Which is a shame because
brightness and sometimes especially if you could shut the weerd bathroom
echo like effects the panning could be very much awesome. Sye too bad
the best sounding PC for my ears is so mad expensive and meh maybe too
much PC for most. I'm talking of corse about the MSI Trident. Man that
thing sounds glorious.

On 10/24/2020 7:06 AM, Brian Olesen wrote:
HI,
Yes, and no.
The obvious answer is off course yes, but there can be factors that makes
bumps on the way.
The dac is an extremely important component, and some of the better cards
has really good dacs.
But the usb port of your computer can create unwanted noise that will
disturb the final result.

Best regards
Brian
Brian

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Hamit Campos
 

Hi John. Well you could still as I do enjoy the lausless Dolby Tru HD or DTS HD Master files. With 4K Blu-Ray well you'd first have to spend $3300 on the Onkyo AVR to do it than you can enjoy glorious 7.1.4 Dolby Atmos and DTSX. Oh and the 11 satelite speakers and the sub. Woops almost forgot the speakers there for a moment. lol. Note this is my ultimate gole. But in any event yeah that's why I said I wouldn't debate HDMI because I wasn't sure you'd be interested. With DVDs though HDMI will save you 3 cables into the PC then into the AVR. The optical cable someone brought up earlier would do as well. I was just suggesting as the new PC will have HDMI which is a funny looking USB port like hole with a trapezoid kinda shape and little cuts down the triangle like sides of it you could use said port into the TV or into your surround sound system if it too has HDMI. Ah even the monitor if it has speakers you could HDMI into that. That's how I use my PC at night.

On 10/24/2020 12:44 PM, John Heath via groups.io wrote:
Being legally blind I won't be watching much blue ray. The difference with my kind of vision would be minimal.

-----Original Message----- From: Hamit Campos
Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2020 12:38 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] sound cards

Ah okay. Well 2 things then. It's brand spanking new right? Like you
either ordered dirrectly from Dell or bought at a store right now today
in 2020? Here's why I ask this. If it's a new tower no matter what model
it will indeed have HDMI. We won't go into an HDMI version debate
because I don't know if you are going to watch Blu-Ray disks. So for the
topic at hand 1 yes your friend is right. Get a Soundblaster Z at least.
I'd say but let's wait to hear from someone who has 1 on how it sounds.
Asus makes soundcards too apparently. Let's here oh and back to HDMI
though if you do have a new TV with HdMI or an AVR with HDMI then like I
said before meh just grab a cable and hook that sucker in. I probabally
should grab a card though too for those rare times I use it. Mostly I
use either my bose speakers or my Zoom H6 as an audio interface which by
the way meh it's just a fancy pro word for fancy pro soundcard.

On 10/24/2020 12:32 PM, John Heath via groups.io wrote:
First thanks to you and list for answering. I'm getting a Dell; don't ask which model I don't know. I was asking because my friend-technician whose is going to install tells me this tower is quite expandable.

-----Original Message----- From: Hamit Campos
Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2020 12:08 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] sound cards

Yes and I forgot to expand on this last night. Not only that. I have
seen that depending on the PC you will get a different flavor as well.
But over all yeah a soundcard would be better. Realtek is adding too
many strange effects to their internal audio. Which is a shame because
brightness and sometimes especially if you could shut the weerd bathroom
echo like effects the panning could be very much awesome. Sye too bad
the best sounding PC for my ears is so mad expensive and meh maybe too
much PC for most. I'm talking of corse about the MSI Trident. Man that
thing sounds glorious.

On 10/24/2020 7:06 AM, Brian Olesen wrote:
HI,
Yes, and no.
The obvious answer is off course yes, but there can be factors that makes
bumps on the way.
The dac is an extremely important component, and some of the better cards
has really good dacs.
But the usb port of your computer can create unwanted noise that will
disturb the final result.

Best regards
Brian
Brian

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