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Olympus LS-14 Recorder

Dane Trethowan <grtdane@...>
 

I finally received my LS-14 recorder today so here are my impressions.
I know the internal speaker of a recorder is terribly important to some people. For me an internal speaker doesn’t mean much and I suppose that’s probably because I’ve used so many professional recording solutions without speakers so I’m probably used to monitoring with headphones.
I will say that the internal speaker of the LS-14 does grab the attention of the ears and has quite a pleasant sound to it.
The LS-14 is bigger than I had expected but small enough for portable field use. If you want something smaller then go for the LS-P4 which has several advantages over the LS-14.
The LS-P4 has a better voice guidance system though still no match for the DM4 in this area.
I’ve played with the Smart Level -rehursal - mode of the LS-14 which is very nice however its not the final say when it comes to adjusting levels.
In the end it comes down to your personal taste, do you want the smart level function of the LS-14 or perhaps you would prefer the “Look Ahead” buffer of the LS-P4. Whatever your preference both seem to work well.
I have my LS-14 running from a USB Powerbank and I’m going to test to see just how much battery life I’ll et from the bank on the recorder in the next few days.
I’m not at all concerned that the LS-14 cannot recharge batteries internally, the Zoom recorders don’t do this so again its something I’ve become accustomed to.
The plastic build of the LS-14 is excellent and not the shoddy plastic build that was the Olympus DM-7.
The Line-in socket is a welcome addition to a recorder of this size and I look forward to capturing audio from it. I hope an included line-in will mean a pretty much record and forget idea when capturing.
As yet I’ve not set the Date and Time, voice Guidance doesn’t work with this setting it seems.
The menu system takes a little getting used to but at least it can be navigated.
I haven’t yet found a way to erase multiple files form memory, I can certainly erase 1 file at a time.
I’m pleased to see the Olympus recorder supporting PCM Wave format all the way up to 96KHZ 24-bit so very good for those of us who want to record from turntables or want that extra excitement when capturing live music.
Its a pity the LS-14 will not record FLAC and its quite possible that the processor in the LS-14 isn’t quite powerful enough to manage what the LS-P4 does in this regard.
So that’s pretty much it as far as I’m concerned with the LS-14 which I’ve been exploring for the last 2 hours.
I found Neal’s review very helpful along with the knowledge obtained from other list members here.

Hamit Campos
 

Dain to erace everything after you've been playing stuff hit the function key all the way to the left. Then hit the erace key. Now if you remember how erace use to work on the older recorders were you had to conferm 2 times you'll be good. But before that you'll get a choice of erace 1 file or all or multible. Choose all. Yeah Smart Mode ain't perfect. But it can be and has mostly been for me. Shame the LS-100 didn't have it and shame the LS-14 don't have XLRs. Again things I thought after getting mine when I got it.

On 2/20/2019 5:04 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
I finally received my LS-14 recorder today so here are my impressions.
I know the internal speaker of a recorder is terribly important to some people. For me an internal speaker doesn’t mean much and I suppose that’s probably because I’ve used so many professional recording solutions without speakers so I’m probably used to monitoring with headphones.
I will say that the internal speaker of the LS-14 does grab the attention of the ears and has quite a pleasant sound to it.
The LS-14 is bigger than I had expected but small enough for portable field use. If you want something smaller then go for the LS-P4 which has several advantages over the LS-14.
The LS-P4 has a better voice guidance system though still no match for the DM4 in this area.
I’ve played with the Smart Level -rehursal - mode of the LS-14 which is very nice however its not the final say when it comes to adjusting levels.
In the end it comes down to your personal taste, do you want the smart level function of the LS-14 or perhaps you would prefer the “Look Ahead” buffer of the LS-P4. Whatever your preference both seem to work well.
I have my LS-14 running from a USB Powerbank and I’m going to test to see just how much battery life I’ll et from the bank on the recorder in the next few days.
I’m not at all concerned that the LS-14 cannot recharge batteries internally, the Zoom recorders don’t do this so again its something I’ve become accustomed to.
The plastic build of the LS-14 is excellent and not the shoddy plastic build that was the Olympus DM-7.
The Line-in socket is a welcome addition to a recorder of this size and I look forward to capturing audio from it. I hope an included line-in will mean a pretty much record and forget idea when capturing.
As yet I’ve not set the Date and Time, voice Guidance doesn’t work with this setting it seems.
The menu system takes a little getting used to but at least it can be navigated.
I haven’t yet found a way to erase multiple files form memory, I can certainly erase 1 file at a time.
I’m pleased to see the Olympus recorder supporting PCM Wave format all the way up to 96KHZ 24-bit so very good for those of us who want to record from turntables or want that extra excitement when capturing live music.
Its a pity the LS-14 will not record FLAC and its quite possible that the processor in the LS-14 isn’t quite powerful enough to manage what the LS-P4 does in this regard.
So that’s pretty much it as far as I’m concerned with the LS-14 which I’ve been exploring for the last 2 hours.
I found Neal’s review very helpful along with the knowledge obtained from other list members here.


Dane Trethowan <grtdane@...>
 

Yes it is a shame about XLR connectivity however the unit is small so adding that functionality would have made the recorder that little bit larger.
I can see a good reason as to why people would buy this recorder if it had XLR connectivity as it would be a very cheap and practical studio device even though the unit isn't a multi track recorder.
As things stand I'm very pleased with the recorder the way it is and I'll probably end up using the recorder more often than I've done the LS-P4 though its early days yet and the P4 does have some advantages over the 14.
As for the LS-100? Well it sits in the bottom draw.

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
Sent: Thursday, 21 February 2019 1:51 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Olympus LS-14 Recorder

Dain to erace everything after you've been playing stuff hit the function key all the way to the left. Then hit the erace key. Now if you remember how erace use to work on the older recorders were you had to conferm 2 times you'll be good. But before that you'll get a choice of erace 1 file or all or multible. Choose all. Yeah Smart Mode ain't perfect. But it can be and has mostly been for me. Shame the LS-100 didn't have it and shame the LS-14 don't have XLRs. Again things I thought after getting mine when I got it.

On 2/20/2019 5:04 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
I finally received my LS-14 recorder today so here are my impressions.
I know the internal speaker of a recorder is terribly important to some people. For me an internal speaker doesn’t mean much and I suppose that’s probably because I’ve used so many professional recording solutions without speakers so I’m probably used to monitoring with headphones.
I will say that the internal speaker of the LS-14 does grab the attention of the ears and has quite a pleasant sound to it.
The LS-14 is bigger than I had expected but small enough for portable field use. If you want something smaller then go for the LS-P4 which has several advantages over the LS-14.
The LS-P4 has a better voice guidance system though still no match for the DM4 in this area.
I’ve played with the Smart Level -rehursal - mode of the LS-14 which is very nice however its not the final say when it comes to adjusting levels.
In the end it comes down to your personal taste, do you want the smart level function of the LS-14 or perhaps you would prefer the “Look Ahead” buffer of the LS-P4. Whatever your preference both seem to work well.
I have my LS-14 running from a USB Powerbank and I’m going to test to see just how much battery life I’ll et from the bank on the recorder in the next few days.
I’m not at all concerned that the LS-14 cannot recharge batteries internally, the Zoom recorders don’t do this so again its something I’ve become accustomed to.
The plastic build of the LS-14 is excellent and not the shoddy plastic build that was the Olympus DM-7.
The Line-in socket is a welcome addition to a recorder of this size and I look forward to capturing audio from it. I hope an included line-in will mean a pretty much record and forget idea when capturing.
As yet I’ve not set the Date and Time, voice Guidance doesn’t work with this setting it seems.
The menu system takes a little getting used to but at least it can be navigated.
I haven’t yet found a way to erase multiple files form memory, I can certainly erase 1 file at a time.
I’m pleased to see the Olympus recorder supporting PCM Wave format all the way up to 96KHZ 24-bit so very good for those of us who want to record from turntables or want that extra excitement when capturing live music.
Its a pity the LS-14 will not record FLAC and its quite possible that the processor in the LS-14 isn’t quite powerful enough to manage what the LS-P4 does in this regard.
So that’s pretty much it as far as I’m concerned with the LS-14 which I’ve been exploring for the last 2 hours.
I found Neal’s review very helpful along with the knowledge obtained from other list members here.



Hamit Campos
 

That is 1 thing I did find interesting about the new DM-720 and the P4. I think they had the British lady say more stuff. Am I right? That's also why they don't and won't match the DM-4. The DM-4 had an actual TTS engine in it.

On 2/20/2019 9:57 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Yes it is a shame about XLR connectivity however the unit is small so adding that functionality would have made the recorder that little bit larger.
I can see a good reason as to why people would buy this recorder if it had XLR connectivity as it would be a very cheap and practical studio device even though the unit isn't a multi track recorder.
As things stand I'm very pleased with the recorder the way it is and I'll probably end up using the recorder more often than I've done the LS-P4 though its early days yet and the P4 does have some advantages over the 14.
As for the LS-100? Well it sits in the bottom draw.


-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
Sent: Thursday, 21 February 2019 1:51 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Olympus LS-14 Recorder

Dain to erace everything after you've been playing stuff hit the function key all the way to the left. Then hit the erace key. Now if you remember how erace use to work on the older recorders were you had to conferm 2 times you'll be good. But before that you'll get a choice of erace 1 file or all or multible. Choose all. Yeah Smart Mode ain't perfect. But it can be and has mostly been for me. Shame the LS-100 didn't have it and shame the LS-14 don't have XLRs. Again things I thought after getting mine when I got it.

On 2/20/2019 5:04 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
I finally received my LS-14 recorder today so here are my impressions.
I know the internal speaker of a recorder is terribly important to some people. For me an internal speaker doesn’t mean much and I suppose that’s probably because I’ve used so many professional recording solutions without speakers so I’m probably used to monitoring with headphones.
I will say that the internal speaker of the LS-14 does grab the attention of the ears and has quite a pleasant sound to it.
The LS-14 is bigger than I had expected but small enough for portable field use. If you want something smaller then go for the LS-P4 which has several advantages over the LS-14.
The LS-P4 has a better voice guidance system though still no match for the DM4 in this area.
I’ve played with the Smart Level -rehursal - mode of the LS-14 which is very nice however its not the final say when it comes to adjusting levels.
In the end it comes down to your personal taste, do you want the smart level function of the LS-14 or perhaps you would prefer the “Look Ahead” buffer of the LS-P4. Whatever your preference both seem to work well.
I have my LS-14 running from a USB Powerbank and I’m going to test to see just how much battery life I’ll et from the bank on the recorder in the next few days.
I’m not at all concerned that the LS-14 cannot recharge batteries internally, the Zoom recorders don’t do this so again its something I’ve become accustomed to.
The plastic build of the LS-14 is excellent and not the shoddy plastic build that was the Olympus DM-7.
The Line-in socket is a welcome addition to a recorder of this size and I look forward to capturing audio from it. I hope an included line-in will mean a pretty much record and forget idea when capturing.
As yet I’ve not set the Date and Time, voice Guidance doesn’t work with this setting it seems.
The menu system takes a little getting used to but at least it can be navigated.
I haven’t yet found a way to erase multiple files form memory, I can certainly erase 1 file at a time.
I’m pleased to see the Olympus recorder supporting PCM Wave format all the way up to 96KHZ 24-bit so very good for those of us who want to record from turntables or want that extra excitement when capturing live music.
Its a pity the LS-14 will not record FLAC and its quite possible that the processor in the LS-14 isn’t quite powerful enough to manage what the LS-P4 does in this regard.
So that’s pretty much it as far as I’m concerned with the LS-14 which I’ve been exploring for the last 2 hours.
I found Neal’s review very helpful along with the knowledge obtained from other list members here.







Dane Trethowan <grtdane@...>
 

As we’ve lamented previously its terribly sad that Olympus chose not to carry on with the development of the DM-4 as it included a whole heap of useful features that were never finished.

On 21 Feb 2019, at 2:25 am, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

That is 1 thing I did find interesting about the new DM-720 and the P4. I think they had the British lady say more stuff. Am I right? That's also why they don't and won't match the DM-4. The DM-4 had an actual TTS engine in it.

On 2/20/2019 9:57 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Yes it is a shame about XLR connectivity however the unit is small so adding that functionality would have made the recorder that little bit larger.
I can see a good reason as to why people would buy this recorder if it had XLR connectivity as it would be a very cheap and practical studio device even though the unit isn't a multi track recorder.
As things stand I'm very pleased with the recorder the way it is and I'll probably end up using the recorder more often than I've done the LS-P4 though its early days yet and the P4 does have some advantages over the 14.
As for the LS-100? Well it sits in the bottom draw.


-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
Sent: Thursday, 21 February 2019 1:51 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Olympus LS-14 Recorder

Dain to erace everything after you've been playing stuff hit the function key all the way to the left. Then hit the erace key. Now if you remember how erace use to work on the older recorders were you had to conferm 2 times you'll be good. But before that you'll get a choice of erace 1 file or all or multible. Choose all. Yeah Smart Mode ain't perfect. But it can be and has mostly been for me. Shame the LS-100 didn't have it and shame the LS-14 don't have XLRs. Again things I thought after getting mine when I got it.

On 2/20/2019 5:04 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
I finally received my LS-14 recorder today so here are my impressions.
I know the internal speaker of a recorder is terribly important to some people. For me an internal speaker doesn’t mean much and I suppose that’s probably because I’ve used so many professional recording solutions without speakers so I’m probably used to monitoring with headphones.
I will say that the internal speaker of the LS-14 does grab the attention of the ears and has quite a pleasant sound to it.
The LS-14 is bigger than I had expected but small enough for portable field use. If you want something smaller then go for the LS-P4 which has several advantages over the LS-14.
The LS-P4 has a better voice guidance system though still no match for the DM4 in this area.
I’ve played with the Smart Level -rehursal - mode of the LS-14 which is very nice however its not the final say when it comes to adjusting levels.
In the end it comes down to your personal taste, do you want the smart level function of the LS-14 or perhaps you would prefer the “Look Ahead” buffer of the LS-P4. Whatever your preference both seem to work well.
I have my LS-14 running from a USB Powerbank and I’m going to test to see just how much battery life I’ll et from the bank on the recorder in the next few days.
I’m not at all concerned that the LS-14 cannot recharge batteries internally, the Zoom recorders don’t do this so again its something I’ve become accustomed to.
The plastic build of the LS-14 is excellent and not the shoddy plastic build that was the Olympus DM-7.
The Line-in socket is a welcome addition to a recorder of this size and I look forward to capturing audio from it. I hope an included line-in will mean a pretty much record and forget idea when capturing.
As yet I’ve not set the Date and Time, voice Guidance doesn’t work with this setting it seems.
The menu system takes a little getting used to but at least it can be navigated.
I haven’t yet found a way to erase multiple files form memory, I can certainly erase 1 file at a time.
I’m pleased to see the Olympus recorder supporting PCM Wave format all the way up to 96KHZ 24-bit so very good for those of us who want to record from turntables or want that extra excitement when capturing live music.
Its a pity the LS-14 will not record FLAC and its quite possible that the processor in the LS-14 isn’t quite powerful enough to manage what the LS-P4 does in this regard.
So that’s pretty much it as far as I’m concerned with the LS-14 which I’ve been exploring for the last 2 hours.
I found Neal’s review very helpful along with the knowledge obtained from other list members here.









Hamit Campos
 

Yeah I know right? It even had a DAISY player in it. Dude think of this. What a world if Olympus had continued the stuff in the DM-4 in the LS-100. Or in what ever new machine they do. Let's hope the LS-100 wasn't also an 1 off kinda thing too.

On 2/20/2019 10:29 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
As we’ve lamented previously its terribly sad that Olympus chose not to carry on with the development of the DM-4 as it included a whole heap of useful features that were never finished.


On 21 Feb 2019, at 2:25 am, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

That is 1 thing I did find interesting about the new DM-720 and the P4. I think they had the British lady say more stuff. Am I right? That's also why they don't and won't match the DM-4. The DM-4 had an actual TTS engine in it.

On 2/20/2019 9:57 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Yes it is a shame about XLR connectivity however the unit is small so adding that functionality would have made the recorder that little bit larger.
I can see a good reason as to why people would buy this recorder if it had XLR connectivity as it would be a very cheap and practical studio device even though the unit isn't a multi track recorder.
As things stand I'm very pleased with the recorder the way it is and I'll probably end up using the recorder more often than I've done the LS-P4 though its early days yet and the P4 does have some advantages over the 14.
As for the LS-100? Well it sits in the bottom draw.


-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
Sent: Thursday, 21 February 2019 1:51 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Olympus LS-14 Recorder

Dain to erace everything after you've been playing stuff hit the function key all the way to the left. Then hit the erace key. Now if you remember how erace use to work on the older recorders were you had to conferm 2 times you'll be good. But before that you'll get a choice of erace 1 file or all or multible. Choose all. Yeah Smart Mode ain't perfect. But it can be and has mostly been for me. Shame the LS-100 didn't have it and shame the LS-14 don't have XLRs. Again things I thought after getting mine when I got it.

On 2/20/2019 5:04 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
I finally received my LS-14 recorder today so here are my impressions.
I know the internal speaker of a recorder is terribly important to some people. For me an internal speaker doesn’t mean much and I suppose that’s probably because I’ve used so many professional recording solutions without speakers so I’m probably used to monitoring with headphones.
I will say that the internal speaker of the LS-14 does grab the attention of the ears and has quite a pleasant sound to it.
The LS-14 is bigger than I had expected but small enough for portable field use. If you want something smaller then go for the LS-P4 which has several advantages over the LS-14.
The LS-P4 has a better voice guidance system though still no match for the DM4 in this area.
I’ve played with the Smart Level -rehursal - mode of the LS-14 which is very nice however its not the final say when it comes to adjusting levels.
In the end it comes down to your personal taste, do you want the smart level function of the LS-14 or perhaps you would prefer the “Look Ahead” buffer of the LS-P4. Whatever your preference both seem to work well.
I have my LS-14 running from a USB Powerbank and I’m going to test to see just how much battery life I’ll et from the bank on the recorder in the next few days.
I’m not at all concerned that the LS-14 cannot recharge batteries internally, the Zoom recorders don’t do this so again its something I’ve become accustomed to.
The plastic build of the LS-14 is excellent and not the shoddy plastic build that was the Olympus DM-7.
The Line-in socket is a welcome addition to a recorder of this size and I look forward to capturing audio from it. I hope an included line-in will mean a pretty much record and forget idea when capturing.
As yet I’ve not set the Date and Time, voice Guidance doesn’t work with this setting it seems.
The menu system takes a little getting used to but at least it can be navigated.
I haven’t yet found a way to erase multiple files form memory, I can certainly erase 1 file at a time.
I’m pleased to see the Olympus recorder supporting PCM Wave format all the way up to 96KHZ 24-bit so very good for those of us who want to record from turntables or want that extra excitement when capturing live music.
Its a pity the LS-14 will not record FLAC and its quite possible that the processor in the LS-14 isn’t quite powerful enough to manage what the LS-P4 does in this regard.
So that’s pretty much it as far as I’m concerned with the LS-14 which I’ve been exploring for the last 2 hours.
I found Neal’s review very helpful along with the knowledge obtained from other list members here.







Dane Trethowan <grtdane@...>
 

Only time will tell.

On 21 Feb 2019, at 2:39 am, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

Yeah I know right? It even had a DAISY player in it. Dude think of this. What a world if Olympus had continued the stuff in the DM-4 in the LS-100. Or in what ever new machine they do. Let's hope the LS-100 wasn't also an 1 off kinda thing too.

On 2/20/2019 10:29 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
As we’ve lamented previously its terribly sad that Olympus chose not to carry on with the development of the DM-4 as it included a whole heap of useful features that were never finished.


On 21 Feb 2019, at 2:25 am, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

That is 1 thing I did find interesting about the new DM-720 and the P4. I think they had the British lady say more stuff. Am I right? That's also why they don't and won't match the DM-4. The DM-4 had an actual TTS engine in it.

On 2/20/2019 9:57 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Yes it is a shame about XLR connectivity however the unit is small so adding that functionality would have made the recorder that little bit larger.
I can see a good reason as to why people would buy this recorder if it had XLR connectivity as it would be a very cheap and practical studio device even though the unit isn't a multi track recorder.
As things stand I'm very pleased with the recorder the way it is and I'll probably end up using the recorder more often than I've done the LS-P4 though its early days yet and the P4 does have some advantages over the 14.
As for the LS-100? Well it sits in the bottom draw.


-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
Sent: Thursday, 21 February 2019 1:51 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Olympus LS-14 Recorder

Dain to erace everything after you've been playing stuff hit the function key all the way to the left. Then hit the erace key. Now if you remember how erace use to work on the older recorders were you had to conferm 2 times you'll be good. But before that you'll get a choice of erace 1 file or all or multible. Choose all. Yeah Smart Mode ain't perfect. But it can be and has mostly been for me. Shame the LS-100 didn't have it and shame the LS-14 don't have XLRs. Again things I thought after getting mine when I got it.

On 2/20/2019 5:04 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
I finally received my LS-14 recorder today so here are my impressions.
I know the internal speaker of a recorder is terribly important to some people. For me an internal speaker doesn’t mean much and I suppose that’s probably because I’ve used so many professional recording solutions without speakers so I’m probably used to monitoring with headphones.
I will say that the internal speaker of the LS-14 does grab the attention of the ears and has quite a pleasant sound to it.
The LS-14 is bigger than I had expected but small enough for portable field use. If you want something smaller then go for the LS-P4 which has several advantages over the LS-14.
The LS-P4 has a better voice guidance system though still no match for the DM4 in this area.
I’ve played with the Smart Level -rehursal - mode of the LS-14 which is very nice however its not the final say when it comes to adjusting levels.
In the end it comes down to your personal taste, do you want the smart level function of the LS-14 or perhaps you would prefer the “Look Ahead” buffer of the LS-P4. Whatever your preference both seem to work well.
I have my LS-14 running from a USB Powerbank and I’m going to test to see just how much battery life I’ll et from the bank on the recorder in the next few days.
I’m not at all concerned that the LS-14 cannot recharge batteries internally, the Zoom recorders don’t do this so again its something I’ve become accustomed to.
The plastic build of the LS-14 is excellent and not the shoddy plastic build that was the Olympus DM-7.
The Line-in socket is a welcome addition to a recorder of this size and I look forward to capturing audio from it. I hope an included line-in will mean a pretty much record and forget idea when capturing.
As yet I’ve not set the Date and Time, voice Guidance doesn’t work with this setting it seems.
The menu system takes a little getting used to but at least it can be navigated.
I haven’t yet found a way to erase multiple files form memory, I can certainly erase 1 file at a time.
I’m pleased to see the Olympus recorder supporting PCM Wave format all the way up to 96KHZ 24-bit so very good for those of us who want to record from turntables or want that extra excitement when capturing live music.
Its a pity the LS-14 will not record FLAC and its quite possible that the processor in the LS-14 isn’t quite powerful enough to manage what the LS-P4 does in this regard.
So that’s pretty much it as far as I’m concerned with the LS-14 which I’ve been exploring for the last 2 hours.
I found Neal’s review very helpful along with the knowledge obtained from other list members here.









Hamit Campos
 

Yep that's right. Like Enya says at the end of Only Time. Who knows? Only Time.

On 2/20/2019 11:28 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Only time will tell.


On 21 Feb 2019, at 2:39 am, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

Yeah I know right? It even had a DAISY player in it. Dude think of this. What a world if Olympus had continued the stuff in the DM-4 in the LS-100. Or in what ever new machine they do. Let's hope the LS-100 wasn't also an 1 off kinda thing too.

On 2/20/2019 10:29 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
As we’ve lamented previously its terribly sad that Olympus chose not to carry on with the development of the DM-4 as it included a whole heap of useful features that were never finished.


On 21 Feb 2019, at 2:25 am, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

That is 1 thing I did find interesting about the new DM-720 and the P4. I think they had the British lady say more stuff. Am I right? That's also why they don't and won't match the DM-4. The DM-4 had an actual TTS engine in it.

On 2/20/2019 9:57 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Yes it is a shame about XLR connectivity however the unit is small so adding that functionality would have made the recorder that little bit larger.
I can see a good reason as to why people would buy this recorder if it had XLR connectivity as it would be a very cheap and practical studio device even though the unit isn't a multi track recorder.
As things stand I'm very pleased with the recorder the way it is and I'll probably end up using the recorder more often than I've done the LS-P4 though its early days yet and the P4 does have some advantages over the 14.
As for the LS-100? Well it sits in the bottom draw.


-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
Sent: Thursday, 21 February 2019 1:51 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Olympus LS-14 Recorder

Dain to erace everything after you've been playing stuff hit the function key all the way to the left. Then hit the erace key. Now if you remember how erace use to work on the older recorders were you had to conferm 2 times you'll be good. But before that you'll get a choice of erace 1 file or all or multible. Choose all. Yeah Smart Mode ain't perfect. But it can be and has mostly been for me. Shame the LS-100 didn't have it and shame the LS-14 don't have XLRs. Again things I thought after getting mine when I got it.

On 2/20/2019 5:04 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
I finally received my LS-14 recorder today so here are my impressions.
I know the internal speaker of a recorder is terribly important to some people. For me an internal speaker doesn’t mean much and I suppose that’s probably because I’ve used so many professional recording solutions without speakers so I’m probably used to monitoring with headphones.
I will say that the internal speaker of the LS-14 does grab the attention of the ears and has quite a pleasant sound to it.
The LS-14 is bigger than I had expected but small enough for portable field use. If you want something smaller then go for the LS-P4 which has several advantages over the LS-14.
The LS-P4 has a better voice guidance system though still no match for the DM4 in this area.
I’ve played with the Smart Level -rehursal - mode of the LS-14 which is very nice however its not the final say when it comes to adjusting levels.
In the end it comes down to your personal taste, do you want the smart level function of the LS-14 or perhaps you would prefer the “Look Ahead” buffer of the LS-P4. Whatever your preference both seem to work well.
I have my LS-14 running from a USB Powerbank and I’m going to test to see just how much battery life I’ll et from the bank on the recorder in the next few days.
I’m not at all concerned that the LS-14 cannot recharge batteries internally, the Zoom recorders don’t do this so again its something I’ve become accustomed to.
The plastic build of the LS-14 is excellent and not the shoddy plastic build that was the Olympus DM-7.
The Line-in socket is a welcome addition to a recorder of this size and I look forward to capturing audio from it. I hope an included line-in will mean a pretty much record and forget idea when capturing.
As yet I’ve not set the Date and Time, voice Guidance doesn’t work with this setting it seems.
The menu system takes a little getting used to but at least it can be navigated.
I haven’t yet found a way to erase multiple files form memory, I can certainly erase 1 file at a time.
I’m pleased to see the Olympus recorder supporting PCM Wave format all the way up to 96KHZ 24-bit so very good for those of us who want to record from turntables or want that extra excitement when capturing live music.
Its a pity the LS-14 will not record FLAC and its quite possible that the processor in the LS-14 isn’t quite powerful enough to manage what the LS-P4 does in this regard.
So that’s pretty much it as far as I’m concerned with the LS-14 which I’ve been exploring for the last 2 hours.
I found Neal’s review very helpful along with the knowledge obtained from other list members here.






Dane Trethowan <grtdane@...>
 

Olympus are certainly known for their Dictation offerings and not their professional recording offerings and let's face it, the Olympus LS-100 - despite of its many shortcomings in my view - is aimed at the professional market.
Whether Olympus can hold their own against the Zoom H6 for example in this market? It’s a tall order for Olympus given that the Zoom H6 - whilst capable of so much more - is at a similar price to the Olympus LS-100.
Having said all that we have to acknowledge that it wasn't all that long ago when Zoom was a completely unheard of name in the world of professional audio recorders.
Now Zoom have set a whole heap of benchmarks that the so-called professional brands such as Tascam and Roland can only dream of.
If you listen to many of the reviews of the Zoom F8N for example you'll note how inthusiastic the reviewers are about the recorders and its not just the feature set they're raving about but the price of one of these recorders means that you don't have to robb a bank to purchase something that makes damn nice audio recordings and has the flexibility for all sorts of recording situations whether you be a film maker, recording your company meeting, recording Podcasts or just singing along to your Casio Piano and Yamaha Keyboard as I've done - the neighbours ran away when they heard it too <smile> -.
Seriously though, I don't yet have a keyboard amp but its one of the items on my "To Purchase" list, at the moment I use headphones.

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
Sent: Thursday, 21 February 2019 3:32 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Olympus LS-14 Recorder

Yep that's right. Like Enya says at the end of Only Time. Who knows?
Only Time.

On 2/20/2019 11:28 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Only time will tell.


On 21 Feb 2019, at 2:39 am, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

Yeah I know right? It even had a DAISY player in it. Dude think of this. What a world if Olympus had continued the stuff in the DM-4 in the LS-100. Or in what ever new machine they do. Let's hope the LS-100 wasn't also an 1 off kinda thing too.

On 2/20/2019 10:29 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
As we’ve lamented previously its terribly sad that Olympus chose not to carry on with the development of the DM-4 as it included a whole heap of useful features that were never finished.


On 21 Feb 2019, at 2:25 am, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

That is 1 thing I did find interesting about the new DM-720 and the P4. I think they had the British lady say more stuff. Am I right? That's also why they don't and won't match the DM-4. The DM-4 had an actual TTS engine in it.

On 2/20/2019 9:57 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Yes it is a shame about XLR connectivity however the unit is small so adding that functionality would have made the recorder that little bit larger.
I can see a good reason as to why people would buy this recorder if it had XLR connectivity as it would be a very cheap and practical studio device even though the unit isn't a multi track recorder.
As things stand I'm very pleased with the recorder the way it is and I'll probably end up using the recorder more often than I've done the LS-P4 though its early days yet and the P4 does have some advantages over the 14.
As for the LS-100? Well it sits in the bottom draw.


-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Hamit
Campos
Sent: Thursday, 21 February 2019 1:51 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Olympus LS-14 Recorder

Dain to erace everything after you've been playing stuff hit the function key all the way to the left. Then hit the erace key. Now if you remember how erace use to work on the older recorders were you had to conferm 2 times you'll be good. But before that you'll get a choice of erace 1 file or all or multible. Choose all. Yeah Smart Mode ain't perfect. But it can be and has mostly been for me. Shame the LS-100 didn't have it and shame the LS-14 don't have XLRs. Again things I thought after getting mine when I got it.

On 2/20/2019 5:04 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
I finally received my LS-14 recorder today so here are my impressions.
I know the internal speaker of a recorder is terribly important to some people. For me an internal speaker doesn’t mean much and I suppose that’s probably because I’ve used so many professional recording solutions without speakers so I’m probably used to monitoring with headphones.
I will say that the internal speaker of the LS-14 does grab the attention of the ears and has quite a pleasant sound to it.
The LS-14 is bigger than I had expected but small enough for portable field use. If you want something smaller then go for the LS-P4 which has several advantages over the LS-14.
The LS-P4 has a better voice guidance system though still no match for the DM4 in this area.
I’ve played with the Smart Level -rehursal - mode of the LS-14 which is very nice however its not the final say when it comes to adjusting levels.
In the end it comes down to your personal taste, do you want the smart level function of the LS-14 or perhaps you would prefer the “Look Ahead” buffer of the LS-P4. Whatever your preference both seem to work well.
I have my LS-14 running from a USB Powerbank and I’m going to test to see just how much battery life I’ll et from the bank on the recorder in the next few days.
I’m not at all concerned that the LS-14 cannot recharge batteries internally, the Zoom recorders don’t do this so again its something I’ve become accustomed to.
The plastic build of the LS-14 is excellent and not the shoddy plastic build that was the Olympus DM-7.
The Line-in socket is a welcome addition to a recorder of this size and I look forward to capturing audio from it. I hope an included line-in will mean a pretty much record and forget idea when capturing.
As yet I’ve not set the Date and Time, voice Guidance doesn’t work with this setting it seems.
The menu system takes a little getting used to but at least it can be navigated.
I haven’t yet found a way to erase multiple files form memory, I can certainly erase 1 file at a time.
I’m pleased to see the Olympus recorder supporting PCM Wave format all the way up to 96KHZ 24-bit so very good for those of us who want to record from turntables or want that extra excitement when capturing live music.
Its a pity the LS-14 will not record FLAC and its quite possible that the processor in the LS-14 isn’t quite powerful enough to manage what the LS-P4 does in this regard.
So that’s pretty much it as far as I’m concerned with the LS-14 which I’ve been exploring for the last 2 hours.
I found Neal’s review very helpful along with the knowledge obtained from other list members here.







Hamit Campos
 

Oh yeah agreed. I mean if that Holywood sound goes indy vid of the Zoom F4 the little sister of the F8 origenal is anything to go buy dam dude these things are pretty near dam Sound Devices quality sounding. Can't tell how close though as I've not heard an NT1-A on them. Speaking of Sound-Devices, they now have their Mix Pre recorders too. So yeah. Once I was reflecting on the fact that woe now for the price of the Plextalk PTR2 you can get something that yes doesn't talk like the PTR2 but it has 8 XLRs and 2 more with the Zoom EX H6 snap off peace. Wow dude for $900 you can record in 9.1 surround sound. Yeah the LS-100 was the same price of the H6. But again the H6 can give you up to 5.1 surround sound. Sure the 100 could multi track. But like you once said what's the point with only 2 XLRs? In my case it came down as I've said meh maybe 3 times before to accessibility or multi channal. So with the advent of Aira and Be My Eyes I chose multi channal 5.1 surround. Now I guess I just have to learn Reaper and see how you do 5.1 or 6 channal audio with it if it even does.

On 2/20/2019 12:03 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Olympus are certainly known for their Dictation offerings and not their professional recording offerings and let's face it, the Olympus LS-100 - despite of its many shortcomings in my view - is aimed at the professional market.
Whether Olympus can hold their own against the Zoom H6 for example in this market? It’s a tall order for Olympus given that the Zoom H6 - whilst capable of so much more - is at a similar price to the Olympus LS-100.
Having said all that we have to acknowledge that it wasn't all that long ago when Zoom was a completely unheard of name in the world of professional audio recorders.
Now Zoom have set a whole heap of benchmarks that the so-called professional brands such as Tascam and Roland can only dream of.
If you listen to many of the reviews of the Zoom F8N for example you'll note how inthusiastic the reviewers are about the recorders and its not just the feature set they're raving about but the price of one of these recorders means that you don't have to robb a bank to purchase something that makes damn nice audio recordings and has the flexibility for all sorts of recording situations whether you be a film maker, recording your company meeting, recording Podcasts or just singing along to your Casio Piano and Yamaha Keyboard as I've done - the neighbours ran away when they heard it too <smile> -.
Seriously though, I don't yet have a keyboard amp but its one of the items on my "To Purchase" list, at the moment I use headphones.


-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
Sent: Thursday, 21 February 2019 3:32 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Olympus LS-14 Recorder

Yep that's right. Like Enya says at the end of Only Time. Who knows?
Only Time.

On 2/20/2019 11:28 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Only time will tell.


On 21 Feb 2019, at 2:39 am, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

Yeah I know right? It even had a DAISY player in it. Dude think of this. What a world if Olympus had continued the stuff in the DM-4 in the LS-100. Or in what ever new machine they do. Let's hope the LS-100 wasn't also an 1 off kinda thing too.

On 2/20/2019 10:29 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
As we’ve lamented previously its terribly sad that Olympus chose not to carry on with the development of the DM-4 as it included a whole heap of useful features that were never finished.


On 21 Feb 2019, at 2:25 am, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

That is 1 thing I did find interesting about the new DM-720 and the P4. I think they had the British lady say more stuff. Am I right? That's also why they don't and won't match the DM-4. The DM-4 had an actual TTS engine in it.

On 2/20/2019 9:57 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Yes it is a shame about XLR connectivity however the unit is small so adding that functionality would have made the recorder that little bit larger.
I can see a good reason as to why people would buy this recorder if it had XLR connectivity as it would be a very cheap and practical studio device even though the unit isn't a multi track recorder.
As things stand I'm very pleased with the recorder the way it is and I'll probably end up using the recorder more often than I've done the LS-P4 though its early days yet and the P4 does have some advantages over the 14.
As for the LS-100? Well it sits in the bottom draw.


-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Hamit
Campos
Sent: Thursday, 21 February 2019 1:51 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Olympus LS-14 Recorder

Dain to erace everything after you've been playing stuff hit the function key all the way to the left. Then hit the erace key. Now if you remember how erace use to work on the older recorders were you had to conferm 2 times you'll be good. But before that you'll get a choice of erace 1 file or all or multible. Choose all. Yeah Smart Mode ain't perfect. But it can be and has mostly been for me. Shame the LS-100 didn't have it and shame the LS-14 don't have XLRs. Again things I thought after getting mine when I got it.

On 2/20/2019 5:04 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
I finally received my LS-14 recorder today so here are my impressions.
I know the internal speaker of a recorder is terribly important to some people. For me an internal speaker doesn’t mean much and I suppose that’s probably because I’ve used so many professional recording solutions without speakers so I’m probably used to monitoring with headphones.
I will say that the internal speaker of the LS-14 does grab the attention of the ears and has quite a pleasant sound to it.
The LS-14 is bigger than I had expected but small enough for portable field use. If you want something smaller then go for the LS-P4 which has several advantages over the LS-14.
The LS-P4 has a better voice guidance system though still no match for the DM4 in this area.
I’ve played with the Smart Level -rehursal - mode of the LS-14 which is very nice however its not the final say when it comes to adjusting levels.
In the end it comes down to your personal taste, do you want the smart level function of the LS-14 or perhaps you would prefer the “Look Ahead” buffer of the LS-P4. Whatever your preference both seem to work well.
I have my LS-14 running from a USB Powerbank and I’m going to test to see just how much battery life I’ll et from the bank on the recorder in the next few days.
I’m not at all concerned that the LS-14 cannot recharge batteries internally, the Zoom recorders don’t do this so again its something I’ve become accustomed to.
The plastic build of the LS-14 is excellent and not the shoddy plastic build that was the Olympus DM-7.
The Line-in socket is a welcome addition to a recorder of this size and I look forward to capturing audio from it. I hope an included line-in will mean a pretty much record and forget idea when capturing.
As yet I’ve not set the Date and Time, voice Guidance doesn’t work with this setting it seems.
The menu system takes a little getting used to but at least it can be navigated.
I haven’t yet found a way to erase multiple files form memory, I can certainly erase 1 file at a time.
I’m pleased to see the Olympus recorder supporting PCM Wave format all the way up to 96KHZ 24-bit so very good for those of us who want to record from turntables or want that extra excitement when capturing live music.
Its a pity the LS-14 will not record FLAC and its quite possible that the processor in the LS-14 isn’t quite powerful enough to manage what the LS-P4 does in this regard.
So that’s pretty much it as far as I’m concerned with the LS-14 which I’ve been exploring for the last 2 hours.
I found Neal’s review very helpful along with the knowledge obtained from other list members here.