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long-range wireless microphone

Aman Singer
 

Hi all,



I realize we usually talk about audio output here, but there
are a good many people with expertise in audio more generally and I would be
most grateful for some help in at least narrowing options. I'm in search of
a long-range wireless microphone with a few odd specs. By long-range, I mean
at least 150 feet line-of-sight, obviously through walls will be less. I
need the device to be a microphone only, not a headset combination. I also
need the device to be powered by battery, certainly when using the
transmitter and preferably for the receiver as well. USB power is also good.
Finally, I would prefer the device not to use 2.4 gigahertz if at all
possible. 900 megahertz is fine, as is Dect and 5.8. This doesn't sound very
complicated, I know, but honestly it's difficult to find something that
meets all the specs above or, of course, the problem may be that I'm not
looking to the right people or places. Any advice would be most appreciated.



Thanks,



Aman

Re: Really confused about dvd ripping.

Dane Trethowan <grtdane@...>
 

The more software we have around like this then the better.
I was using Redfox Any DVD to copy Blu-ray but DVDFAV seems to handle those okay so I’d recommend DVDFAV over the other any day.
Redfox Any DVD is an excellent App but its a pain in the but to pay for.

On 17 Oct 2018, at 9:50 am, Dane Trethowan <grtdane@...> wrote:

I’m using it here on the Windows PC - glad to see there’s a Mac version too - and I’ve created a copy of a DVD.
Interestingly the ISO image I created with DVD Fav is smaller than those created by Any DVD Cloner Platinum or MacX DVD Ripper Oro, I’m wondering if FAV is just copying the movie rather than the full DVD? I’ll keep poking around.
Yep, a nice piece of software though it may take some people a little time to get used to the layout.


On 17 Oct 2018, at 6:30 am, Les Gordon <mrdvd@... <mailto:mrdvd@...>> wrote:

yes dvdfab bypasses hdcp copy protection.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan" <grtdane@... <mailto:grtdane@...>>
To: <all-audio@groups.io <mailto:all-audio@groups.io>>
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 3:26 PM
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Really confused about dvd ripping.


Does this package support encrypted DVD’S?
Always looking for alternatives so will go and take a look.


On 17 Oct 2018, at 6:24 am, Les Gordon <mrdvd@...> wrote:

hello, i am using dvdfab software for windows and for ripping dvds to mp4 it works great, there website is www.dvdfab.cn i purchased the lifetime option with free updates. just putting it out there they do have a free trial version so you can see if it meet your needs.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan" <grtdane@...>
To: <all-audio@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 3:14 PM
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Really confused about dvd ripping.


Hi!
I abandoned Handbrake quite some time ago, I’m not saying anything agains the utility itself but what I did find was that it was too complex for my needs and difficult to set up.
I went looking for good DVD Rippers and came across MacX DVD Ripper for Mac and Any DVD Cloner Platinum for Windows so - as you’re talking Mac - we’ll deal with MacX DVD Ripper first though I’n many ways both utilities are the same but a word of warning, don’t bother with MacX DVD Ripper for Windows as its totally unusable.
So MacX DVD Ripper will handle all sorts of dVD ripping and cloning jobs.
You can rip the full DVD to ISO - a clone - or you can rip to tracks and so on, your choice.
The typical use of MacX DVD Pro involves you selecting a source - DVD or ISO file - and then selecting a profile for the ripping job, - full clone of the DVD to ISO file or folder, conversion to one of many different formats for playback on another device and so on -.
Mac DVD Ripper has a trial period of 14 days I think it is before you buy.


On 17 Oct 2018, at 5:48 am, Anders Holmberg <anders@...> wrote:

HI!
Since my echonomy is quite bad i use the Handbrake app on the mac.
Its really great but i have come across a strange problem which i can’t really resolve.
I am trying to rip The lord of the rings extended version.
It contains 4 dvd’s in which 2 contains the first film and the other 2 are some extra material.
THe first dvd i ripped went really fine but now i am at dvd 2 and it wont be detected by handbrake.
I only get no valid source found.
Any ideas on what could be causing the issue.
I can’t believe that on dvd is copy protected and the other is not.
This is a really odd situation to me.
/A













Re: Really confused about dvd ripping.

Dane Trethowan <grtdane@...>
 

Just out of interest what platform are you using this on? I’ve seen your name around high places <smile

and I know you’re a user of multi systems.
On 17 Oct 2018, at 9:56 am, Les Gordon <mrdvd@...> wrote:

hello, when you load the dvd before you rip the dvd to mp4, you can select pixle size, i maxed that out, also select custom for mp4,
high quality 2 pass
and yes dvd fab automatically is set to copy just the main movie to mp4 but you can select all titles if you want.
i been using this for about 5 years now and it works great.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan" <grtdane@...>
To: <all-audio@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 6:50 PM
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Really confused about dvd ripping.


I’m using it here on the Windows PC - glad to see there’s a Mac version too - and I’ve created a copy of a DVD.
Interestingly the ISO image I created with DVD Fav is smaller than those created by Any DVD Cloner Platinum or MacX DVD Ripper Oro, I’m wondering if FAV is just copying the movie rather than the full DVD? I’ll keep poking around.
Yep, a nice piece of software though it may take some people a little time to get used to the layout.


On 17 Oct 2018, at 6:30 am, Les Gordon <mrdvd@...> wrote:

yes dvdfab bypasses hdcp copy protection.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan" <grtdane@...>
To: <all-audio@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 3:26 PM
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Really confused about dvd ripping.


Does this package support encrypted DVD’S?
Always looking for alternatives so will go and take a look.


On 17 Oct 2018, at 6:24 am, Les Gordon <mrdvd@...> wrote:

hello, i am using dvdfab software for windows and for ripping dvds to mp4 it works great, there website is www.dvdfab.cn i purchased the lifetime option with free updates. just putting it out there they do have a free trial version so you can see if it meet your needs.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan" <grtdane@...>
To: <all-audio@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 3:14 PM
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Really confused about dvd ripping.


Hi!
I abandoned Handbrake quite some time ago, I’m not saying anything agains the utility itself but what I did find was that it was too complex for my needs and difficult to set up.
I went looking for good DVD Rippers and came across MacX DVD Ripper for Mac and Any DVD Cloner Platinum for Windows so - as you’re talking Mac - we’ll deal with MacX DVD Ripper first though I’n many ways both utilities are the same but a word of warning, don’t bother with MacX DVD Ripper for Windows as its totally unusable.
So MacX DVD Ripper will handle all sorts of dVD ripping and cloning jobs.
You can rip the full DVD to ISO - a clone - or you can rip to tracks and so on, your choice.
The typical use of MacX DVD Pro involves you selecting a source - DVD or ISO file - and then selecting a profile for the ripping job, - full clone of the DVD to ISO file or folder, conversion to one of many different formats for playback on another device and so on -.
Mac DVD Ripper has a trial period of 14 days I think it is before you buy.


On 17 Oct 2018, at 5:48 am, Anders Holmberg <anders@...> wrote:

HI!
Since my echonomy is quite bad i use the Handbrake app on the mac.
Its really great but i have come across a strange problem which i can’t really resolve.
I am trying to rip The lord of the rings extended version.
It contains 4 dvd’s in which 2 contains the first film and the other 2 are some extra material.
THe first dvd i ripped went really fine but now i am at dvd 2 and it wont be detected by handbrake.
I only get no valid source found.
Any ideas on what could be causing the issue.
I can’t believe that on dvd is copy protected and the other is not.
This is a really odd situation to me.
/A

















Re: Really confused about dvd ripping.

Les Gordon <mrdvd@...>
 

hello, when you load the dvd before you rip the dvd to mp4, you can select pixle size, i maxed that out, also select custom for mp4,
high quality 2 pass
and yes dvd fab automatically is set to copy just the main movie to mp4 but you can select all titles if you want.
i been using this for about 5 years now and it works great.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dane Trethowan" <grtdane@...>
To: <all-audio@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 6:50 PM
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Really confused about dvd ripping.


I’m using it here on the Windows PC - glad to see there’s a Mac version too - and I’ve created a copy of a DVD.
Interestingly the ISO image I created with DVD Fav is smaller than those created by Any DVD Cloner Platinum or MacX DVD Ripper Oro, I’m wondering if FAV is just copying the movie rather than the full DVD? I’ll keep poking around.
Yep, a nice piece of software though it may take some people a little time to get used to the layout.


On 17 Oct 2018, at 6:30 am, Les Gordon <mrdvd@...> wrote:

yes dvdfab bypasses hdcp copy protection.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan" <grtdane@...>
To: <all-audio@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 3:26 PM
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Really confused about dvd ripping.


Does this package support encrypted DVD’S?
Always looking for alternatives so will go and take a look.


On 17 Oct 2018, at 6:24 am, Les Gordon <mrdvd@...> wrote:

hello, i am using dvdfab software for windows and for ripping dvds to mp4 it works great, there website is www.dvdfab.cn i purchased the lifetime option with free updates. just putting it out there they do have a free trial version so you can see if it meet your needs.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan" <grtdane@...>
To: <all-audio@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 3:14 PM
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Really confused about dvd ripping.


Hi!
I abandoned Handbrake quite some time ago, I’m not saying anything agains the utility itself but what I did find was that it was too complex for my needs and difficult to set up.
I went looking for good DVD Rippers and came across MacX DVD Ripper for Mac and Any DVD Cloner Platinum for Windows so - as you’re talking Mac - we’ll deal with MacX DVD Ripper first though I’n many ways both utilities are the same but a word of warning, don’t bother with MacX DVD Ripper for Windows as its totally unusable.
So MacX DVD Ripper will handle all sorts of dVD ripping and cloning jobs.
You can rip the full DVD to ISO - a clone - or you can rip to tracks and so on, your choice.
The typical use of MacX DVD Pro involves you selecting a source - DVD or ISO file - and then selecting a profile for the ripping job, - full clone of the DVD to ISO file or folder, conversion to one of many different formats for playback on another device and so on -.
Mac DVD Ripper has a trial period of 14 days I think it is before you buy.


On 17 Oct 2018, at 5:48 am, Anders Holmberg <anders@...> wrote:

HI!
Since my echonomy is quite bad i use the Handbrake app on the mac.
Its really great but i have come across a strange problem which i can’t really resolve.
I am trying to rip The lord of the rings extended version.
It contains 4 dvd’s in which 2 contains the first film and the other 2 are some extra material.
THe first dvd i ripped went really fine but now i am at dvd 2 and it wont be detected by handbrake.
I only get no valid source found.
Any ideas on what could be causing the issue.
I can’t believe that on dvd is copy protected and the other is not.
This is a really odd situation to me.
/A












Re: Really confused about dvd ripping.

Dane Trethowan <grtdane@...>
 

I’m using it here on the Windows PC - glad to see there’s a Mac version too - and I’ve created a copy of a DVD.
Interestingly the ISO image I created with DVD Fav is smaller than those created by Any DVD Cloner Platinum or MacX DVD Ripper Oro, I’m wondering if FAV is just copying the movie rather than the full DVD? I’ll keep poking around.
Yep, a nice piece of software though it may take some people a little time to get used to the layout.

On 17 Oct 2018, at 6:30 am, Les Gordon <mrdvd@...> wrote:

yes dvdfab bypasses hdcp copy protection.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan" <grtdane@...>
To: <all-audio@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 3:26 PM
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Really confused about dvd ripping.


Does this package support encrypted DVD’S?
Always looking for alternatives so will go and take a look.


On 17 Oct 2018, at 6:24 am, Les Gordon <mrdvd@...> wrote:

hello, i am using dvdfab software for windows and for ripping dvds to mp4 it works great, there website is www.dvdfab.cn i purchased the lifetime option with free updates. just putting it out there they do have a free trial version so you can see if it meet your needs.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan" <grtdane@...>
To: <all-audio@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 3:14 PM
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Really confused about dvd ripping.


Hi!
I abandoned Handbrake quite some time ago, I’m not saying anything agains the utility itself but what I did find was that it was too complex for my needs and difficult to set up.
I went looking for good DVD Rippers and came across MacX DVD Ripper for Mac and Any DVD Cloner Platinum for Windows so - as you’re talking Mac - we’ll deal with MacX DVD Ripper first though I’n many ways both utilities are the same but a word of warning, don’t bother with MacX DVD Ripper for Windows as its totally unusable.
So MacX DVD Ripper will handle all sorts of dVD ripping and cloning jobs.
You can rip the full DVD to ISO - a clone - or you can rip to tracks and so on, your choice.
The typical use of MacX DVD Pro involves you selecting a source - DVD or ISO file - and then selecting a profile for the ripping job, - full clone of the DVD to ISO file or folder, conversion to one of many different formats for playback on another device and so on -.
Mac DVD Ripper has a trial period of 14 days I think it is before you buy.


On 17 Oct 2018, at 5:48 am, Anders Holmberg <anders@...> wrote:

HI!
Since my echonomy is quite bad i use the Handbrake app on the mac.
Its really great but i have come across a strange problem which i can’t really resolve.
I am trying to rip The lord of the rings extended version.
It contains 4 dvd’s in which 2 contains the first film and the other 2 are some extra material.
THe first dvd i ripped went really fine but now i am at dvd 2 and it wont be detected by handbrake.
I only get no valid source found.
Any ideas on what could be causing the issue.
I can’t believe that on dvd is copy protected and the other is not.
This is a really odd situation to me.
/A












Re: Really confused about dvd ripping.

Les Gordon <mrdvd@...>
 

yes dvdfab bypasses hdcp copy protection.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dane Trethowan" <grtdane@...>
To: <all-audio@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 3:26 PM
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Really confused about dvd ripping.


Does this package support encrypted DVD’S?
Always looking for alternatives so will go and take a look.


On 17 Oct 2018, at 6:24 am, Les Gordon <mrdvd@...> wrote:

hello, i am using dvdfab software for windows and for ripping dvds to mp4 it works great, there website is www.dvdfab.cn i purchased the lifetime option with free updates. just putting it out there they do have a free trial version so you can see if it meet your needs.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan" <grtdane@...>
To: <all-audio@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 3:14 PM
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Really confused about dvd ripping.


Hi!
I abandoned Handbrake quite some time ago, I’m not saying anything agains the utility itself but what I did find was that it was too complex for my needs and difficult to set up.
I went looking for good DVD Rippers and came across MacX DVD Ripper for Mac and Any DVD Cloner Platinum for Windows so - as you’re talking Mac - we’ll deal with MacX DVD Ripper first though I’n many ways both utilities are the same but a word of warning, don’t bother with MacX DVD Ripper for Windows as its totally unusable.
So MacX DVD Ripper will handle all sorts of dVD ripping and cloning jobs.
You can rip the full DVD to ISO - a clone - or you can rip to tracks and so on, your choice.
The typical use of MacX DVD Pro involves you selecting a source - DVD or ISO file - and then selecting a profile for the ripping job, - full clone of the DVD to ISO file or folder, conversion to one of many different formats for playback on another device and so on -.
Mac DVD Ripper has a trial period of 14 days I think it is before you buy.


On 17 Oct 2018, at 5:48 am, Anders Holmberg <anders@...> wrote:

HI!
Since my echonomy is quite bad i use the Handbrake app on the mac.
Its really great but i have come across a strange problem which i can’t really resolve.
I am trying to rip The lord of the rings extended version.
It contains 4 dvd’s in which 2 contains the first film and the other 2 are some extra material.
THe first dvd i ripped went really fine but now i am at dvd 2 and it wont be detected by handbrake.
I only get no valid source found.
Any ideas on what could be causing the issue.
I can’t believe that on dvd is copy protected and the other is not.
This is a really odd situation to me.
/A







Re: Really confused about dvd ripping.

Dane Trethowan <grtdane@...>
 

Does this package support encrypted DVD’S?
Always looking for alternatives so will go and take a look.

On 17 Oct 2018, at 6:24 am, Les Gordon <mrdvd@...> wrote:

hello, i am using dvdfab software for windows and for ripping dvds to mp4 it works great, there website is www.dvdfab.cn i purchased the lifetime option with free updates. just putting it out there they do have a free trial version so you can see if it meet your needs.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan" <grtdane@...>
To: <all-audio@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 3:14 PM
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Really confused about dvd ripping.


Hi!
I abandoned Handbrake quite some time ago, I’m not saying anything agains the utility itself but what I did find was that it was too complex for my needs and difficult to set up.
I went looking for good DVD Rippers and came across MacX DVD Ripper for Mac and Any DVD Cloner Platinum for Windows so - as you’re talking Mac - we’ll deal with MacX DVD Ripper first though I’n many ways both utilities are the same but a word of warning, don’t bother with MacX DVD Ripper for Windows as its totally unusable.
So MacX DVD Ripper will handle all sorts of dVD ripping and cloning jobs.
You can rip the full DVD to ISO - a clone - or you can rip to tracks and so on, your choice.
The typical use of MacX DVD Pro involves you selecting a source - DVD or ISO file - and then selecting a profile for the ripping job, - full clone of the DVD to ISO file or folder, conversion to one of many different formats for playback on another device and so on -.
Mac DVD Ripper has a trial period of 14 days I think it is before you buy.


On 17 Oct 2018, at 5:48 am, Anders Holmberg <anders@...> wrote:

HI!
Since my echonomy is quite bad i use the Handbrake app on the mac.
Its really great but i have come across a strange problem which i can’t really resolve.
I am trying to rip The lord of the rings extended version.
It contains 4 dvd’s in which 2 contains the first film and the other 2 are some extra material.
THe first dvd i ripped went really fine but now i am at dvd 2 and it wont be detected by handbrake.
I only get no valid source found.
Any ideas on what could be causing the issue.
I can’t believe that on dvd is copy protected and the other is not.
This is a really odd situation to me.
/A







Re: Really confused about dvd ripping.

Les Gordon <mrdvd@...>
 

hello, i am using dvdfab software for windows and for ripping dvds to mp4 it works great, there website is www.dvdfab.cn i purchased the lifetime option with free updates. just putting it out there they do have a free trial version so you can see if it meet your needs.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dane Trethowan" <grtdane@...>
To: <all-audio@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 3:14 PM
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Really confused about dvd ripping.


Hi!
I abandoned Handbrake quite some time ago, I’m not saying anything agains the utility itself but what I did find was that it was too complex for my needs and difficult to set up.
I went looking for good DVD Rippers and came across MacX DVD Ripper for Mac and Any DVD Cloner Platinum for Windows so - as you’re talking Mac - we’ll deal with MacX DVD Ripper first though I’n many ways both utilities are the same but a word of warning, don’t bother with MacX DVD Ripper for Windows as its totally unusable.
So MacX DVD Ripper will handle all sorts of dVD ripping and cloning jobs.
You can rip the full DVD to ISO - a clone - or you can rip to tracks and so on, your choice.
The typical use of MacX DVD Pro involves you selecting a source - DVD or ISO file - and then selecting a profile for the ripping job, - full clone of the DVD to ISO file or folder, conversion to one of many different formats for playback on another device and so on -.
Mac DVD Ripper has a trial period of 14 days I think it is before you buy.


On 17 Oct 2018, at 5:48 am, Anders Holmberg <anders@...> wrote:

HI!
Since my echonomy is quite bad i use the Handbrake app on the mac.
Its really great but i have come across a strange problem which i can’t really resolve.
I am trying to rip The lord of the rings extended version.
It contains 4 dvd’s in which 2 contains the first film and the other 2 are some extra material.
THe first dvd i ripped went really fine but now i am at dvd 2 and it wont be detected by handbrake.
I only get no valid source found.
Any ideas on what could be causing the issue.
I can’t believe that on dvd is copy protected and the other is not.
This is a really odd situation to me.
/A


Re: Really confused about dvd ripping.

Dane Trethowan <grtdane@...>
 

Hi!
I abandoned Handbrake quite some time ago, I’m not saying anything agains the utility itself but what I did find was that it was too complex for my needs and difficult to set up.
I went looking for good DVD Rippers and came across MacX DVD Ripper for Mac and Any DVD Cloner Platinum for Windows so - as you’re talking Mac - we’ll deal with MacX DVD Ripper first though I’n many ways both utilities are the same but a word of warning, don’t bother with MacX DVD Ripper for Windows as its totally unusable.
So MacX DVD Ripper will handle all sorts of dVD ripping and cloning jobs.
You can rip the full DVD to ISO - a clone - or you can rip to tracks and so on, your choice.
The typical use of MacX DVD Pro involves you selecting a source - DVD or ISO file - and then selecting a profile for the ripping job, - full clone of the DVD to ISO file or folder, conversion to one of many different formats for playback on another device and so on -.
Mac DVD Ripper has a trial period of 14 days I think it is before you buy.

On 17 Oct 2018, at 5:48 am, Anders Holmberg <anders@...> wrote:

HI!
Since my echonomy is quite bad i use the Handbrake app on the mac.
Its really great but i have come across a strange problem which i can’t really resolve.
I am trying to rip The lord of the rings extended version.
It contains 4 dvd’s in which 2 contains the first film and the other 2 are some extra material.
THe first dvd i ripped went really fine but now i am at dvd 2 and it wont be detected by handbrake.
I only get no valid source found.
Any ideas on what could be causing the issue.
I can’t believe that on dvd is copy protected and the other is not.
This is a really odd situation to me.
/A


Really confused about dvd ripping.

Anders Holmberg
 

HI!
Since my echonomy is quite bad i use the Handbrake app on the mac.
Its really great but i have come across a strange problem which i can’t really resolve.
I am trying to rip The lord of the rings extended version.
It contains 4 dvd’s in which 2 contains the first film and the other 2 are some extra material.
THe first dvd i ripped went really fine but now i am at dvd 2 and it wont be detected by handbrake.
I only get no valid source found.
Any ideas on what could be causing the issue.
I can’t believe that on dvd is copy protected and the other is not.
This is a really odd situation to me.
/A

Do you really need a radio studio at all? | radioinfo

Dane Trethowan <grtdane@...>
 

Hi!

As we've been discussing radio in one form or another and as there are fello
broadcasters on lis I thought the following piece from the Radio Info
Newsletter may be of interest.

https://radioinfo.com.au/news/do-you-really-need-radio-studio-all

Soundblaster Omni USB,: something I just stumbled across

Dane Trethowan <grtdane@...>
 

Hi!
I rate this sound device very highly for a good number of reasons.
The device is around $150 and has audio line and microphone in connections, a SPDIF audio out, a very nice headphone out along with RCA line-out sockets for connection to a Hi-Fi system plus outputs for surround-sound speakers if you want to go that far but the fun just doesn’t stop there as I found out around 10 minutes ago.
The Soundblaster Omni also incorporates Built-in microphones so without a doubt this device could be a truly superb accessory for a Notebook computer or even an Intel Nuc being lugged about the place where a microphone along with other handy recording sources could be a real help.
The Sound Blaster Omni also comes with a handy remote control that can be used to skip through tracks etc when playing media, all tis in a handy USB connected device that can fit into your jacket pocket.
On the right on the top of the device is a large round jog-dial that is the volume control, press the dial in and the output is muted.
The Soundblaster Omni as far as I can tell only samples up to 48K when recording but as we’re talking an analogue device for recording 48K is perfectly acceptable.
If you want to go higher with sampling and you’re only concerned with stereo audiophile sound then the Soundblaster HD might be worth looking at as it too has a bargain price, not professional like say the Asus but damn good all the same.

Re: CC EP Pro Radio continued

Dane Trethowan <grtdane@...>
 

Couldn’t have put it better myself and this whole thing makes today’s modern portables even more interesting, whether you’re a HAM or not they’re incredible devices.
For example many of today’s portables - the CC EP Pro amongst them - will easily receive FM signals hundreds upon hundreds of miles away from your current location thanks to the DSP technology common used now.
It wasn’t all that long ago that to get a radio with good selectivity and sensitivity on FM was near to impossible with a portable but now its common place.
Then there is the “Ducting” effect you get on FM which brings even more surprises to your receiver.
Some 33 years ago I remember listening to Radio 4MMM in Brisbane some thousand miles away from where I was on FM, I just couldn’t believe it and that was back on one of the older Analogue FM sets but then again - as I’ve since found out - Panasonic have always has a reputation for making reliable FM receivers.
So to today’s portables which mostly are on a par with each other when it comes to FM reception, its easy for me to receive MMM in Sheperton, 132 miles away on 95.3MHZ with a strong local station right next door at 95.5MHZ, this sort of thing was completely unheard of not all that long ago.

On 14 Oct 2018, at 3:25 am, brian <sackriderbrian45@...> wrote:

Somthing that every ham should understand that dx is dx in any form. no matter if it's broadcast band dx or not. You don't have care about what the radio stations are broadcasting it's just dx it's the fun of the chase of doing it and thats the reason that some of us got in to ham radio in the first place. I do like am and fm broadcast dxing and I may not care what the radio stations are broadcasting it's how far can I get dx stations? Am I getting stations from 200 miles away or 2,000 miles away? It's the challenge of dxing if even it's only swl dxing it's still a good way to know that the bands are opend. I use to like to listen to tv dx there would not be a picture but the sound would be quite clear. Don't forget about scanner dx getting public safety stations from other states than your own. There are lots of ways to listen to dx in the area of swl listening so don't discount them just because you don't care for their content.

73

n8mnx

Brian Sackrider


On 10/11/2018 4:51 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Okay well this topic has taken a turn I didn’t expect and for the record, I don’t care what radio stations do, whether they broadcast mind numbing music - as most do unfortunately - or whether they broadcast such boring shows as “Jennifer Takes A bath”, I’m interested in receiving them particularly if they’re far away from me.
Yep, one can probably get them on the Internet but where’s the challenge in doing that?


On 11 Oct 2018, at 4:21 pm, Gary Schindler <garys5462@...> wrote:

Mary and Howard are correct. You have five companies that own most of the radio stations in the states. Most of the talk stations are conservative.


They also didn't mention that cellular towers, noisy power lines and transformers from an ageing power grid, computers everywhere, and, leaking cable systems adjacent interference from stations using the frequencies to the left and right of the main station for HD radio makes it almost impossible to DX any more. IF you do pull in a station at night that is an HD station because of the reduced power, it sounds terrible anyway because of the sky wave conditions. Because of these things it isn't worth buying a good radio no matter how sensitive or selective it is if you can't enjoy a good listening experience.



On 10/11/2018 12:02 AM, Mary Otten wrote:
Howard,
I have to agree with you. As somebody who grew up loving to DX on the medium wave band and then later got a ham license, I love radio. But radio in the United States these days is useless. I wouldn’t spend 10 bucks on a radio. There’s nothing to listen to. Unless you come to the states, Dane, you simply can’t understand what we’re talking about. If it’s better for you in Australia, great. But here, everything is owned by big corporations and who really gives a damn? There’s no local color nothing. It’s worthless.
Mary
On Oct 10, 2018, at 8:58 PM, Howard Traxler <howard@...> wrote:

Dane, you are generalizing. Some ham radio guys know the stuff and some don't. Whichever I am is no concern to anyone but me. All I am saying is:

(only an opinion); broadcast radio and TV, these days, is nothing but a vast waste land and not worth the price of any type of receiving device.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan" <grtdane@...>
To: <all-audio@groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2018 10:15 PM
Subject: Re: [all-audio] CC EP Pro Radio continued


I think you're missing the point.
This radio is a very reasonably priced and good sounding set so no matter what your radio listening habits - long distance or local - then it’s a set worth getting.
And please forgive me again but those who use Ham radio sets I've found wouldn't know a a good sensitive long distance receiver if they fell over one.
Yep I know that Kenwood are recognised for transceivers as are Uniden and a whole heap of other companies but they're not known for long distance reception of the type I'm talking about, you need nice antennas to be strung up, nothing wrong with that at all but I like to move around.


-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Howard Traxler
Sent: Thursday, 11 October 2018 2:10 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] CC EP Pro Radio continued

Don't know what kind of broadcasting is done in Australia, but here in the states there isn't much that I'd turn on the radio for--no matter how good the radio be.

Being a radeo ham, I have a Kenwood TS-590S. The receiver on this one tunes continuous from the "long wave" bandup through 54 (or so) megahertz; very nicely covering the US broadcast band. With external amplification, this one can have pretty good sound. Not to take anything away from the CC radios or even the super radios; there has to be something out there that one desires to hear; or what good is it?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dane Trethowan" <grtdane@...>
To: <all-audio@groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2018 1:11 PM
Subject: Re: [all-audio] CC EP Pro Radio continued


Shame you feel that way as there’s plenty to recommend a radio such as this
if you’re thinking from a content perspective.
Actually one could argue that its probably better to be able to listen to
long-distance radio given the rubbish some local city stations broadcast and
then you’ll never know unless you try receiving these stations so therefore
you’ll need something good to receive them on in the first place.
So enter the CC EP Pro as a very good starting point for a most reasonable
price.
There aren’t too many radios that come near the CC EP Pro as far as
performance these days and I’ve had my view confirmed when scanning about
the band and listening to the set earlier this morning.
Yes, you can go for all those vintage sets if you like as I myself have done
but its really not worth the bother doing that unless you know someone in
the repairs business.
Let’s take the classic GE Super Radio version II, I got one in 1990 and I
gave it away.
Now suppose I was offered one of those sets today the question then arises,
should I buy or should I settle for something else like a CC EP Pro? To me
the answer is obvious, forget about the GE Super Radio and take the CC EP
Pro.
The GE Super Radio would most likely require an alignment and finding
someone to do that may take some time.
The CC EP Pro is as good as - if not a little better in some ways - as the
GE Super radio was.
The CC EP Pro is far quieter whereas the GE Super Radio was quite noisy in
comparison.
The CC EP Pro in my view has a definite performance edge when it comes to
receiving those distant stations not only for the lack of noise but because
of its pinpoint accurate DSP tuning, the CC EP Pro is about as selective a
radio you’ll find anywhere.
The GE Super radio may sound a little better but the amp isn’t much good and
you’re not going to get much volume out of it.
The CC EP Pro lacks a little bottom but does have a smaller speaker.
So yes, whatever your listening habits - local or distant, AM or FM - then
the CC EP Pro is certainly worth the look, I can’t remember the exact price
of the radio now - I obviously pad to pay quite a bit more to have the unit
shipped to Australia -, the price is well under a hundred US dollars.


On 11 Oct 2018, at 4:09 am, Howard Traxler <howard@...>
wrote:

Sure would have been nice to have this radio (or something like it) 60
years ago. I'm not convinced that there's anything out there worth having
a good radio for.


----- Original Message ----- From: "Casey" <cwollner@...>
To: <all-audio@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2018 8:33 PM
Subject: Re: [all-audio] CC EP Pro Radio continued


Hi is this A single conversion or A duel conversion radio?
And Do you have the cc radio 2 E and do you think that this one is better
than that set?




-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Dane
Trethowan
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2018 7:21 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: [all-audio] CC EP Pro Radio continued

Hi again!
I had the pleasure of receiving my CC EP Pro AM/FM radio around half an
hour ago so I’ve been able to do some quick testing of this unit.
Firstly for the price its an absolute bargain if you’re wanting a
modern-day “Super Radio” but the radio isn’t without some annoyances.
The first is with the sound, not much bottom but enough I guess, certainly
a lot of very nice crisp top.
You have to be extremely careful how you tune this radio, you can’t go
racing up and down the dial as you can with a standard analogue type
radio.
The CC EP. is in fact a radio with an Analogue dial but tunes in steps of
9 or 10KHZ selectable and you can hear the radio step as you tune slowly
up or down the band.
If you tune too fast then you’ll miss hearing those weak signals and may
actually hear nothing at all if you tune at speed.
So that out of the way the other thing to remember is that you may not
hear a correct representation of the received signal when you first tune
there, this radio has some traits of that annoying Soft muting so wait a
second of two before passing judgement.
The next thing the user has to bare in mind is that the CC EP Pro - like
the former CC EP - has a tuneable ferrite twin coil antenna.
Normally leaving the tuning knob at its middle detent should give you
reasonable reception anywhere on the AM band but I have found that if you’re
prepared to tune about with this knob you can improve the reception
significantly, something you quickly get used to.
The next thing to note is that this radio is extremely directional, is
that good or bad? Well if you’re wanting to say nun out very weak stations
next to very strong one’s then the directionality of this portable is a
pure God Send and can make quite a dramatic difference.
What it also means is that you may have to move the radio around a little
bit to get optimal reception of your tuned station.
All that aside then the radio is still a pure joy to use, simple but yet
very affective at the job it was designed for, to enable the user to enjoy
both local and long distance AM/FM broadcast with a reasonable quality
sound not found on a lot of today’s radios.



















--
Gary G. Schindler




Re: CC EP Pro Radio continued

brian
 

Somthing that every ham should understand that dx is dx in any form.  no matter if it's broadcast band dx or not.  You don't have care about what the radio stations are broadcasting it's just dx it's the fun of the chase of doing it and thats the reason that some of us got in to ham radio in the first place.  I do like am and fm broadcast dxing and I may not care what the radio stations are broadcasting it's how far can I get dx stations?  Am I getting stations from 200 miles away or 2,000 miles away?  It's the challenge of dxing if even it's only swl dxing it's still a good way to know that the bands are opend. I use to like to listen to tv dx there would not be a picture but the sound would be quite clear.  Don't forget about scanner dx getting public safety stations from other states than your own.  There are lots of ways to listen to dx in the area of swl listening so don't discount them just because you don't care for their content.

73

n8mnx

Brian Sackrider

On 10/11/2018 4:51 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Okay well this topic has taken a turn I didn’t expect and for the record, I don’t care what radio stations do, whether they broadcast mind numbing music - as most do unfortunately - or whether they broadcast such boring shows as “Jennifer Takes A bath”, I’m interested in receiving them particularly if they’re far away from me.
Yep, one can probably get them on the Internet but where’s the challenge in doing that?


On 11 Oct 2018, at 4:21 pm, Gary Schindler <garys5462@...> wrote:

Mary and Howard are correct. You have five companies that own most of the radio stations in the states. Most of the talk stations are conservative.


They also didn't mention that cellular towers, noisy power lines and transformers from an ageing power grid, computers everywhere, and, leaking cable systems adjacent interference from stations using the frequencies to the left and right of the main station for HD radio makes it almost impossible to DX any more. IF you do pull in a station at night that is an HD station because of the reduced power, it sounds terrible anyway because of the sky wave conditions. Because of these things it isn't worth buying a good radio no matter how sensitive or selective it is if you can't enjoy a good listening experience.



On 10/11/2018 12:02 AM, Mary Otten wrote:
Howard,
I have to agree with you. As somebody who grew up loving to DX on the medium wave band and then later got a ham license, I love radio. But radio in the United States these days is useless. I wouldn’t spend 10 bucks on a radio. There’s nothing to listen to. Unless you come to the states, Dane, you simply can’t understand what we’re talking about. If it’s better for you in Australia, great. But here, everything is owned by big corporations and who really gives a damn? There’s no local color nothing. It’s worthless.
Mary
On Oct 10, 2018, at 8:58 PM, Howard Traxler <howard@...> wrote:

Dane, you are generalizing. Some ham radio guys know the stuff and some don't. Whichever I am is no concern to anyone but me. All I am saying is:

(only an opinion); broadcast radio and TV, these days, is nothing but a vast waste land and not worth the price of any type of receiving device.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan" <grtdane@...>
To: <all-audio@groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2018 10:15 PM
Subject: Re: [all-audio] CC EP Pro Radio continued


I think you're missing the point.
This radio is a very reasonably priced and good sounding set so no matter what your radio listening habits - long distance or local - then it’s a set worth getting.
And please forgive me again but those who use Ham radio sets I've found wouldn't know a a good sensitive long distance receiver if they fell over one.
Yep I know that Kenwood are recognised for transceivers as are Uniden and a whole heap of other companies but they're not known for long distance reception of the type I'm talking about, you need nice antennas to be strung up, nothing wrong with that at all but I like to move around.


-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Howard Traxler
Sent: Thursday, 11 October 2018 2:10 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] CC EP Pro Radio continued

Don't know what kind of broadcasting is done in Australia, but here in the states there isn't much that I'd turn on the radio for--no matter how good the radio be.

Being a radeo ham, I have a Kenwood TS-590S. The receiver on this one tunes continuous from the "long wave" bandup through 54 (or so) megahertz; very nicely covering the US broadcast band. With external amplification, this one can have pretty good sound. Not to take anything away from the CC radios or even the super radios; there has to be something out there that one desires to hear; or what good is it?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dane Trethowan" <grtdane@...>
To: <all-audio@groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2018 1:11 PM
Subject: Re: [all-audio] CC EP Pro Radio continued


Shame you feel that way as there’s plenty to recommend a radio such as this
if you’re thinking from a content perspective.
Actually one could argue that its probably better to be able to listen to
long-distance radio given the rubbish some local city stations broadcast and
then you’ll never know unless you try receiving these stations so therefore
you’ll need something good to receive them on in the first place.
So enter the CC EP Pro as a very good starting point for a most reasonable
price.
There aren’t too many radios that come near the CC EP Pro as far as
performance these days and I’ve had my view confirmed when scanning about
the band and listening to the set earlier this morning.
Yes, you can go for all those vintage sets if you like as I myself have done
but its really not worth the bother doing that unless you know someone in
the repairs business.
Let’s take the classic GE Super Radio version II, I got one in 1990 and I
gave it away.
Now suppose I was offered one of those sets today the question then arises,
should I buy or should I settle for something else like a CC EP Pro? To me
the answer is obvious, forget about the GE Super Radio and take the CC EP
Pro.
The GE Super Radio would most likely require an alignment and finding
someone to do that may take some time.
The CC EP Pro is as good as - if not a little better in some ways - as the
GE Super radio was.
The CC EP Pro is far quieter whereas the GE Super Radio was quite noisy in
comparison.
The CC EP Pro in my view has a definite performance edge when it comes to
receiving those distant stations not only for the lack of noise but because
of its pinpoint accurate DSP tuning, the CC EP Pro is about as selective a
radio you’ll find anywhere.
The GE Super radio may sound a little better but the amp isn’t much good and
you’re not going to get much volume out of it.
The CC EP Pro lacks a little bottom but does have a smaller speaker.
So yes, whatever your listening habits - local or distant, AM or FM - then
the CC EP Pro is certainly worth the look, I can’t remember the exact price
of the radio now - I obviously pad to pay quite a bit more to have the unit
shipped to Australia -, the price is well under a hundred US dollars.


On 11 Oct 2018, at 4:09 am, Howard Traxler <howard@...>
wrote:

Sure would have been nice to have this radio (or something like it) 60
years ago. I'm not convinced that there's anything out there worth having
a good radio for.


----- Original Message ----- From: "Casey" <cwollner@...>
To: <all-audio@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2018 8:33 PM
Subject: Re: [all-audio] CC EP Pro Radio continued


Hi is this A single conversion or A duel conversion radio?
And Do you have the cc radio 2 E and do you think that this one is better
than that set?




-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Dane
Trethowan
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2018 7:21 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: [all-audio] CC EP Pro Radio continued

Hi again!
I had the pleasure of receiving my CC EP Pro AM/FM radio around half an
hour ago so I’ve been able to do some quick testing of this unit.
Firstly for the price its an absolute bargain if you’re wanting a
modern-day “Super Radio” but the radio isn’t without some annoyances.
The first is with the sound, not much bottom but enough I guess, certainly
a lot of very nice crisp top.
You have to be extremely careful how you tune this radio, you can’t go
racing up and down the dial as you can with a standard analogue type
radio.
The CC EP. is in fact a radio with an Analogue dial but tunes in steps of
9 or 10KHZ selectable and you can hear the radio step as you tune slowly
up or down the band.
If you tune too fast then you’ll miss hearing those weak signals and may
actually hear nothing at all if you tune at speed.
So that out of the way the other thing to remember is that you may not
hear a correct representation of the received signal when you first tune
there, this radio has some traits of that annoying Soft muting so wait a
second of two before passing judgement.
The next thing the user has to bare in mind is that the CC EP Pro - like
the former CC EP - has a tuneable ferrite twin coil antenna.
Normally leaving the tuning knob at its middle detent should give you
reasonable reception anywhere on the AM band but I have found that if you’re
prepared to tune about with this knob you can improve the reception
significantly, something you quickly get used to.
The next thing to note is that this radio is extremely directional, is
that good or bad? Well if you’re wanting to say nun out very weak stations
next to very strong one’s then the directionality of this portable is a
pure God Send and can make quite a dramatic difference.
What it also means is that you may have to move the radio around a little
bit to get optimal reception of your tuned station.
All that aside then the radio is still a pure joy to use, simple but yet
very affective at the job it was designed for, to enable the user to enjoy
both local and long distance AM/FM broadcast with a reasonable quality
sound not found on a lot of today’s radios.



















--
Gary G. Schindler


Re: Famous media player Winamp new version with Windows 10 support leaks online

Hamit Campos
 

Ah na dude I'm using Chrome. IE's become too slow and froze. IE locks up too much. I was just firther prooving that point of how 1 can be too attached to the old thing. Thanks for letting me know though I didn't know. I just thought they didn't care no more.

On 10/11/2018 10:28 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
You have freedom of choice but I'm sure you're aware of the fact that Internet Explorer is officially not supported any longer so if code changes on the Net then I.E. may have unexpected results.
I use Google Chrome on multiple platforms here, much like VLC.


-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
Sent: Friday, 12 October 2018 1:15 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Famous media player Winamp new version with Windows 10 support leaks online

Yeah. now this is kinda off topic too but have you noted how IE ain't liked by JAWS either? So I switched to Chrome. Now in that vane that says awwww man I love good old trusty IE though. Girrrrr I can't stand some of the things Chrome does with Youtube. but oh wells I guess. Tough love. For instance the vid right under the recommended heading in Chrome don't get an add to watch later button. In trusty old Internet Explorer all vids git an add to watch later button. In IE it respects you may wana go back and watch another recommended vid from the origenal list.
Chrome Fire Fox and I'll bet ya Edge tottally dissrespectfull. Watch 1 vid long enough and when you go back the origenal list went bie bie. How rood as Jar Jar Binks says.


On 10/11/2018 10:06 PM, Evan Reese wrote:
Nope, it's not all and good for everything.
For example, my Window Eyes screen reader is now defunct. I can still
use it, but it's getting more difficult with web pages now, certainly
now it is useless with Firefox. So I've moved on to JAWS 18. It works
better in numerous ways, and it's faster as well.
So when something stops working as well as something that's still
being developed, then I'm moving on.
Evan

-----Original Message----- From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 7:10 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Famous media player Winamp new version with
Windows 10 support leaks online

All and good for you then but its not all and good for everything
though is it?
I’m not against Winamp at all and as I mentioned earlier I used the
software but even for me it became too bloated and I was left
wondering exactly what the aims of the developers of Winamp were, to
make something flashy or something that actually worked.
As I said earlier I was having trouble playing some content so I
decided at that point to “Move on”, no regrets whatever there.


On 12 Oct 2018, at 10:01 am, Evan Reese <mentat1@...> wrote:

Well sure, when a new version of Windows comes out that Winamp will
not run under, then absolutely, I'll find another player. Just from
reading this list, I know I won't have any trouble finding a good
alternative. But until then...
Evan

-----Original Message----- From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 5:44 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Famous media player Winamp new version with
Windows 10 support leaks online

There are a whole heap of different audio formats but that’s really
not the point.
As Windows evolves and changes that the software running on it has to
evolve with Windows.


On 12 Oct 2018, at 8:20 am, Evan Reese <mentat1@...> wrote:

Being kept up to date how? How many new audio formats have you heard
about in the last few years?
So what's to be kept up to date with these newer players? The user
interface? As several others have already pointed out, Winamp has an
excellent user interface. New audio formats that Winamp can't play?
Well, I've already asked that question.
So what's the urgent imperative for being kept up to date with these
players?
Evan

-----Original Message----- From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 5:14 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Famous media player Winamp new version with
Windows 10 support leaks online

And here lies the point,, what new things we have in this discussion
say VLC and Windows Media player are better than what you had as
they’re being developed and deliberately being kept up to date, user
feedback is being evaluated with regards to these and future products.
So look at the subject line which talks about a new version for
Winamp, where is it?


On 12 Oct 2018, at 8:10 am, Evan Reese <mentat1@...> wrote:

You're right, some people don't like change.
But there's another alternative to either changing all the time or
staying behind. Change when what is new is significantly better
than what you have now. Change just for the sake of change is
pointless.
Evan

-----Original Message----- From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 5:05 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Famous media player Winamp new version
with Windows 10 support leaks online

I’ve given this topic more thought and I think what it really boils
down to is that people don’t like change regardless how good or bad
something might be compared to another App, another method or
whatever so here’s the point, take onboard change or stay behind
and eventually stagnate.


On 12 Oct 2018, at 12:43 am, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...>
wrote:

Tom for those of us who have only kinda run across WinAmp. What
made it such a big thing with the blind? Maybe I didn't give it
much a chance. But actually the 1 I used felt odd. But I only
tried it. But seeing it doesn't have SRS Wow like Media Player
does, I don't use it much. Meh I've tried it for streaming but
that's about all. I do know lots of people love WinAmp. I have
homies that do.


On 10/11/2018 12:04 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
While I've not dealt with every type of media player that ever
was, I don't see how one could get a whole lot better (as far as
accessibility is concerned) than Winamp; just my opinion, you
understand!
Tom Kaufman

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf
Of Kelly Pierce
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2018 10:37 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Famous media player Winamp new version
with Windows 10 support leaks online

Dane,

Winamp is the most accessible media player for the blind. It may
be old, but it is highly functional. I am listening to online
radio with it as I type this message. Braille slates are more
than 80 years old but they are still used because they are
useful. I also own and use a minidisc recorder. It is somewhat
ancient, but it remains highly effective for spoken word
recording.

Kelly

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On 10/10/18, dennis <dennisc67@...> wrote:
i would love to get it when it comes out.

On 10/10/2018 7:12 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

Only me but I just couldn’t be bothered wasting my time
wondering what others are thinking about something that soon
will be ancient history.
On 11 Oct 2018, at 8:33 am, JM Casey
<crystallogic@...> ( crystallogic@... )
wrote: I have this beta. I'm skeptical how official it is and
I haven't bothered to install it, because Winamp
5.666
is working just fine for me in Windows 10. However, a couple
of others on other lists have reported that it works well.
-----Original
Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> (
all-audio@groups.io ) On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: October
10, 2018 4:57 PM To:
all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Famous media player Winamp new
version with Windows 10 support leaks online I probably
wouldn't download it right yet; not until we know that it is
"officially" out there! Wouldn't want something bad to get
into our computers! Tom Kaufman -----Original
Message----- From: all-audio@groups.io [
mailto:all-audio@groups.io ( all-audio@groups.io ) ] On Behalf
Of Dane Trethowan Sent:
Wednesday,
October 10, 2018 4:10 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re:
[all-audio]
Famous media player Winamp new version with Windows 10 support
leaks online all I can say is download and use at your own
risk.
On 11 Oct 2018, at 6:59 am, Brian Olesen <brian@...>
( brian@... ) wrote: Famous media player Winamp new
version with Windows 10 support leaks
online
By Mayank Parmar - September 17, 2018 Winamp for Windows
Remember Winamp?
The popular media player for Windows is expected to make
a
comeback at some point. Winamp was launched by independent
developers back in 1997 and it grew quickly popular with over
3 million downloads in a
short
span of time. In a couple of years, Winamp became one of the
most downloaded Windows applications. The app was sold to AOL
in
1999 for
$80
million but it later acquired by Radionomy in 2014.
Radionomy, the
current
developers of famous Winamp promised that the app will
receive a new update with several new features. A while ago,
the developers published release notes of an update but no
downloadable package was available for users to try out.
Winamp developers promised major updates ever since it took
over the company and we are
still
waiting for that day. It's an old and outdated app but it's
still being used by millions of
users.
A new version of Winamp, which was last developed on October
26, 2016, has leaked online. Winamp 5.8 has been published by
an unknown source and it's not from the official developers.
It's also worth noting that VirusTotal scan generates two
different
warnings
for the app, so we are not including the link to unreleased
Winamp update
in
this article. Winamp works fine on Windows 10 The Winamp 5.8
comes with several new features and improvements including
support for Windows 8.1 and Windows 10. It is, however, worth
noting that public and stable version of the app
works
smoothly on Windows 10, but Winamp 5.8 is supposed to address
compatibility
issues with Windows 10. As noted above, this release of
Winamp comes with several other improvements. For example,
there's a dedicated setting that lets you
disable
Winamp's video support and the company has also fixed some
bugs to improve the overall performance of the player. The
current owner hasn't officially announced any updates for the
app but
as
the beta has just leaked out, there's a chance that an
official statement will be released soon. It's also possible
that the developers are
internally
testing a new and improved version of the app with better
support for Windows 10. At this point, it's not yet known
whether a new Winamp release is planned
or
not. We are waiting for additional details from the
developers and we will update this article if and when a
statement is available.
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Re: Famous media player Winamp new version with Windows 10 support leaks online

Dane Trethowan <grtdane@...>
 

You have freedom of choice but I'm sure you're aware of the fact that Internet Explorer is officially not supported any longer so if code changes on the Net then I.E. may have unexpected results.
I use Google Chrome on multiple platforms here, much like VLC.

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
Sent: Friday, 12 October 2018 1:15 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Famous media player Winamp new version with Windows 10 support leaks online

Yeah. now this is kinda off topic too but have you noted how IE ain't liked by JAWS either? So I switched to Chrome. Now in that vane that says awwww man I love good old trusty IE though. Girrrrr I can't stand some of the things Chrome does with Youtube. but oh wells I guess. Tough love. For instance the vid right under the recommended heading in Chrome don't get an add to watch later button. In trusty old Internet Explorer all vids git an add to watch later button. In IE it respects you may wana go back and watch another recommended vid from the origenal list.
Chrome Fire Fox and I'll bet ya Edge tottally dissrespectfull. Watch 1 vid long enough and when you go back the origenal list went bie bie. How rood as Jar Jar Binks says.


On 10/11/2018 10:06 PM, Evan Reese wrote:
Nope, it's not all and good for everything.
For example, my Window Eyes screen reader is now defunct. I can still
use it, but it's getting more difficult with web pages now, certainly
now it is useless with Firefox. So I've moved on to JAWS 18. It works
better in numerous ways, and it's faster as well.
So when something stops working as well as something that's still
being developed, then I'm moving on.
Evan

-----Original Message----- From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 7:10 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Famous media player Winamp new version with
Windows 10 support leaks online

All and good for you then but its not all and good for everything
though is it?
I’m not against Winamp at all and as I mentioned earlier I used the
software but even for me it became too bloated and I was left
wondering exactly what the aims of the developers of Winamp were, to
make something flashy or something that actually worked.
As I said earlier I was having trouble playing some content so I
decided at that point to “Move on”, no regrets whatever there.


On 12 Oct 2018, at 10:01 am, Evan Reese <mentat1@...> wrote:

Well sure, when a new version of Windows comes out that Winamp will
not run under, then absolutely, I'll find another player. Just from
reading this list, I know I won't have any trouble finding a good
alternative. But until then...
Evan

-----Original Message----- From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 5:44 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Famous media player Winamp new version with
Windows 10 support leaks online

There are a whole heap of different audio formats but that’s really
not the point.
As Windows evolves and changes that the software running on it has to
evolve with Windows.


On 12 Oct 2018, at 8:20 am, Evan Reese <mentat1@...> wrote:

Being kept up to date how? How many new audio formats have you heard
about in the last few years?
So what's to be kept up to date with these newer players? The user
interface? As several others have already pointed out, Winamp has an
excellent user interface. New audio formats that Winamp can't play?
Well, I've already asked that question.
So what's the urgent imperative for being kept up to date with these
players?
Evan

-----Original Message----- From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 5:14 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Famous media player Winamp new version with
Windows 10 support leaks online

And here lies the point,, what new things we have in this discussion
say VLC and Windows Media player are better than what you had as
they’re being developed and deliberately being kept up to date, user
feedback is being evaluated with regards to these and future products.
So look at the subject line which talks about a new version for
Winamp, where is it?


On 12 Oct 2018, at 8:10 am, Evan Reese <mentat1@...> wrote:

You're right, some people don't like change.
But there's another alternative to either changing all the time or
staying behind. Change when what is new is significantly better
than what you have now. Change just for the sake of change is
pointless.
Evan

-----Original Message----- From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 5:05 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Famous media player Winamp new version
with Windows 10 support leaks online

I’ve given this topic more thought and I think what it really boils
down to is that people don’t like change regardless how good or bad
something might be compared to another App, another method or
whatever so here’s the point, take onboard change or stay behind
and eventually stagnate.


On 12 Oct 2018, at 12:43 am, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...>
wrote:

Tom for those of us who have only kinda run across WinAmp. What
made it such a big thing with the blind? Maybe I didn't give it
much a chance. But actually the 1 I used felt odd. But I only
tried it. But seeing it doesn't have SRS Wow like Media Player
does, I don't use it much. Meh I've tried it for streaming but
that's about all. I do know lots of people love WinAmp. I have
homies that do.


On 10/11/2018 12:04 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
While I've not dealt with every type of media player that ever
was, I don't see how one could get a whole lot better (as far as
accessibility is concerned) than Winamp; just my opinion, you
understand!
Tom Kaufman

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf
Of Kelly Pierce
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2018 10:37 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Famous media player Winamp new version
with Windows 10 support leaks online

Dane,

Winamp is the most accessible media player for the blind. It may
be old, but it is highly functional. I am listening to online
radio with it as I type this message. Braille slates are more
than 80 years old but they are still used because they are
useful. I also own and use a minidisc recorder. It is somewhat
ancient, but it remains highly effective for spoken word
recording.

Kelly

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On 10/10/18, dennis <dennisc67@...> wrote:
i would love to get it when it comes out.

On 10/10/2018 7:12 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

Only me but I just couldn’t be bothered wasting my time
wondering what others are thinking about something that soon
will be ancient history.
On 11 Oct 2018, at 8:33 am, JM Casey
<crystallogic@...> ( crystallogic@... )
wrote: I have this beta. I'm skeptical how official it is and
I haven't bothered to install it, because Winamp
5.666
is working just fine for me in Windows 10. However, a couple
of others on other lists have reported that it works well.
-----Original
Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> (
all-audio@groups.io ) On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: October
10, 2018 4:57 PM To:
all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Famous media player Winamp new
version with Windows 10 support leaks online I probably
wouldn't download it right yet; not until we know that it is
"officially" out there! Wouldn't want something bad to get
into our computers! Tom Kaufman -----Original
Message----- From: all-audio@groups.io [
mailto:all-audio@groups.io ( all-audio@groups.io ) ] On Behalf
Of Dane Trethowan Sent:
Wednesday,
October 10, 2018 4:10 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re:
[all-audio]
Famous media player Winamp new version with Windows 10 support
leaks online all I can say is download and use at your own
risk.
On 11 Oct 2018, at 6:59 am, Brian Olesen <brian@...>
( brian@... ) wrote: Famous media player Winamp new
version with Windows 10 support leaks
online
By Mayank Parmar - September 17, 2018 Winamp for Windows
Remember Winamp?
The popular media player for Windows is expected to make
a
comeback at some point. Winamp was launched by independent
developers back in 1997 and it grew quickly popular with over
3 million downloads in a
short
span of time. In a couple of years, Winamp became one of the
most downloaded Windows applications. The app was sold to AOL
in
1999 for
$80
million but it later acquired by Radionomy in 2014.
Radionomy, the
current
developers of famous Winamp promised that the app will
receive a new update with several new features. A while ago,
the developers published release notes of an update but no
downloadable package was available for users to try out.
Winamp developers promised major updates ever since it took
over the company and we are
still
waiting for that day. It's an old and outdated app but it's
still being used by millions of
users.
A new version of Winamp, which was last developed on October
26, 2016, has leaked online. Winamp 5.8 has been published by
an unknown source and it's not from the official developers.
It's also worth noting that VirusTotal scan generates two
different
warnings
for the app, so we are not including the link to unreleased
Winamp update
in
this article. Winamp works fine on Windows 10 The Winamp 5.8
comes with several new features and improvements including
support for Windows 8.1 and Windows 10. It is, however, worth
noting that public and stable version of the app
works
smoothly on Windows 10, but Winamp 5.8 is supposed to address
compatibility
issues with Windows 10. As noted above, this release of
Winamp comes with several other improvements. For example,
there's a dedicated setting that lets you
disable
Winamp's video support and the company has also fixed some
bugs to improve the overall performance of the player. The
current owner hasn't officially announced any updates for the
app but
as
the beta has just leaked out, there's a chance that an
official statement will be released soon. It's also possible
that the developers are
internally
testing a new and improved version of the app with better
support for Windows 10. At this point, it's not yet known
whether a new Winamp release is planned
or
not. We are waiting for additional details from the
developers and we will update this article if and when a
statement is available.
********** Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind
will leave the rest of the halfwits in this world behind.
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Re: Famous media player Winamp new version with Windows 10 support leaks online

Hamit Campos
 

Yeah. now this is kinda off topic too but have you noted how IE ain't liked by JAWS either? So I switched to Chrome. Now in that vane that says awwww man I love good old trusty IE though. Girrrrr I can't stand some of the things Chrome does with Youtube. but oh wells I guess. Tough love. For instance the vid right under the recommended heading in Chrome don't get an add to watch later button. In trusty old Internet Explorer all vids git an add to watch later button. In IE it respects you may wana go back and watch another recommended vid from the origenal list. Chrome Fire Fox and I'll bet ya Edge tottally dissrespectfull. Watch 1 vid long enough and when you go back the origenal list went bie bie. How rood as Jar Jar Binks says.

On 10/11/2018 10:06 PM, Evan Reese wrote:
Nope, it's not all and good for everything.
For example, my Window Eyes screen reader is now defunct. I can still use it, but it's getting more difficult with web pages now, certainly now it is useless with Firefox. So I've moved on to JAWS 18. It works better in numerous ways, and it's faster as well.
So when something stops working as well as something that's still being developed, then I'm moving on.
Evan

-----Original Message----- From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 7:10 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Famous media player Winamp new version with Windows 10 support leaks online

All and good for you then but its not all and good for everything though is it?
I’m not against Winamp at all and as I mentioned earlier I used the software but even for me it became too bloated and I was left wondering exactly what the aims of the developers of Winamp were, to make something flashy or something that actually worked.
As I said earlier I was having trouble playing some content so I decided at that point to “Move on”, no regrets whatever there.


On 12 Oct 2018, at 10:01 am, Evan Reese <mentat1@...> wrote:

Well sure, when a new version of Windows comes out that Winamp will not run under, then absolutely, I'll find another player. Just from reading this list, I know I won't have any trouble finding a good alternative. But until then...
Evan

-----Original Message----- From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 5:44 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Famous media player Winamp new version with Windows 10 support leaks online

There are a whole heap of different audio formats but that’s really not the point.
As Windows evolves and changes that the software running on it has to evolve with Windows.


On 12 Oct 2018, at 8:20 am, Evan Reese <mentat1@...> wrote:

Being kept up to date how? How many new audio formats have you heard about in the last few years?
So what's to be kept up to date with these newer players? The user interface? As several others have already pointed out, Winamp has an excellent user interface. New audio formats that Winamp can't play? Well, I've already asked that question.
So what's the urgent imperative for being kept up to date with these players?
Evan

-----Original Message----- From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 5:14 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Famous media player Winamp new version with Windows 10 support leaks online

And here lies the point,, what new things we have in this discussion say VLC and Windows Media player are better than what you had as they’re being developed and deliberately being kept up to date, user feedback is being evaluated with regards to these and future products.
So look at the subject line which talks about a new version for Winamp, where is it?


On 12 Oct 2018, at 8:10 am, Evan Reese <mentat1@...> wrote:

You're right, some people don't like change.
But there's another alternative to either changing all the time or staying behind. Change when what is new is significantly better than what you have now. Change just for the sake of change is pointless.
Evan

-----Original Message----- From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 5:05 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Famous media player Winamp new version with Windows 10 support leaks online

I’ve given this topic more thought and I think what it really boils down to is that people don’t like change regardless how good or bad something might be compared to another App, another method or whatever so here’s the point, take onboard change or stay behind and eventually stagnate.


On 12 Oct 2018, at 12:43 am, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

Tom for those of us who have only kinda run across WinAmp. What made it such a big thing with the blind? Maybe I didn't give it much a chance. But actually the 1 I  used felt odd. But I only tried it. But seeing it doesn't have SRS Wow like Media Player does, I don't use it much. Meh I've tried it for streaming but that's about all. I do know lots of people love WinAmp. I have homies that do.


On 10/11/2018 12:04 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
While I've not dealt with every type of media player that ever was, I don't see how one could get a whole lot better (as far as accessibility is concerned) than Winamp; just my opinion, you understand!
Tom Kaufman

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Kelly Pierce
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2018 10:37 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Famous media player Winamp new version with Windows 10 support leaks online

Dane,

Winamp is the most accessible media player for the blind. It may be
old, but it is highly functional. I am listening to online radio with
it as I type this message.  Braille slates are more than 80 years old
but they are still used because they are useful.  I also own and use a
minidisc recorder. It is somewhat ancient, but it remains highly
effective for spoken word recording.

Kelly

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On 10/10/18, dennis <dennisc67@...> wrote:
i would love to get it when it comes out.

On 10/10/2018 7:12 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

Only me but I just couldn’t be bothered wasting my time wondering what
others are thinking about something that soon will be ancient history.
On 11 Oct 2018, at 8:33 am, JM Casey <crystallogic@...> (
crystallogic@... ) wrote: I have this beta. I'm skeptical how
official it is and I haven't bothered to install it, because Winamp
5.666
is working just fine for me in Windows 10. However, a couple of others
on
other lists have reported that it works well. -----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> ( all-audio@groups.io )
On
Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: October 10, 2018 4:57 PM To:
all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Famous media player Winamp new version with
Windows 10 support leaks online I probably wouldn't download it right
yet;
not until we know that it is "officially" out there! Wouldn't want
something bad to get into our computers! Tom Kaufman -----Original
Message----- From: all-audio@groups.io [ mailto:all-audio@groups.io (
all-audio@groups.io ) ] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Wednesday,
October 10, 2018 4:10 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re:
[all-audio]
Famous media player Winamp new version with Windows 10 support leaks
online all I can say is download and use at your own risk.
On 11 Oct 2018, at 6:59 am, Brian Olesen <brian@...> (
brian@... ) wrote: Famous media player Winamp new version with
Windows 10 support leaks
online
By Mayank Parmar - September 17, 2018 Winamp for Windows Remember
Winamp?
The popular media player for Windows is expected to make
a
comeback at some point. Winamp was launched by independent developers
back
in 1997 and it grew quickly popular with over 3 million downloads in a
short
span of time. In a couple of years, Winamp became one of the most
downloaded Windows applications. The app was sold to AOL in 1999 for
$80
million but it later acquired by Radionomy in 2014. Radionomy, the
current
developers of famous Winamp promised that the app will receive a new
update with several new features. A while ago, the developers published
release notes of an update but no downloadable package was available
for
users to try out. Winamp developers promised major updates ever since
it
took over the company and we are
still
waiting for that day. It's an old and outdated app but it's still being
used by millions of
users.
A new version of Winamp, which was last developed on October 26, 2016,
has
leaked online. Winamp 5.8 has been published by an unknown source and
it's
not from the official developers. It's also worth noting that
VirusTotal
scan generates two different
warnings
for the app, so we are not including the link to unreleased Winamp
update
in
this article. Winamp works fine on Windows 10 The Winamp 5.8 comes with
several new features and improvements including support for Windows 8.1
and Windows 10. It is, however, worth noting that public and stable
version of the app
works
smoothly on Windows 10, but Winamp 5.8 is supposed to address
compatibility
issues with Windows 10. As noted above, this release of Winamp comes
with
several other improvements. For example, there's a dedicated setting
that
lets you
disable
Winamp's video support and the company has also fixed some bugs to
improve
the overall performance of the player. The current owner hasn't
officially
announced any updates for the app but
as
the beta has just leaked out, there's a chance that an official
statement
will be released soon. It's also possible that the developers are
internally
testing a new and improved version of the app with better support for
Windows 10. At this point, it's not yet known whether a new Winamp
release
is planned
or
not. We are waiting for additional details from the developers and we
will
update this article if and when a statement is available.
********** Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave
the
rest of the halfwits in this world behind.
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Re: Famous media player Winamp new version with Windows 10 support leaks online

Evan Reese
 

Nope, it's not all and good for everything.
For example, my Window Eyes screen reader is now defunct. I can still use it, but it's getting more difficult with web pages now, certainly now it is useless with Firefox. So I've moved on to JAWS 18. It works better in numerous ways, and it's faster as well.
So when something stops working as well as something that's still being developed, then I'm moving on.
Evan

-----Original Message-----
From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 7:10 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Famous media player Winamp new version with Windows 10 support leaks online

All and good for you then but its not all and good for everything though is it?
I’m not against Winamp at all and as I mentioned earlier I used the software but even for me it became too bloated and I was left wondering exactly what the aims of the developers of Winamp were, to make something flashy or something that actually worked.
As I said earlier I was having trouble playing some content so I decided at that point to “Move on”, no regrets whatever there.


On 12 Oct 2018, at 10:01 am, Evan Reese <mentat1@...> wrote:

Well sure, when a new version of Windows comes out that Winamp will not run under, then absolutely, I'll find another player. Just from reading this list, I know I won't have any trouble finding a good alternative. But until then...
Evan

-----Original Message----- From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 5:44 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Famous media player Winamp new version with Windows 10 support leaks online

There are a whole heap of different audio formats but that’s really not the point.
As Windows evolves and changes that the software running on it has to evolve with Windows.


On 12 Oct 2018, at 8:20 am, Evan Reese <mentat1@...> wrote:

Being kept up to date how? How many new audio formats have you heard about in the last few years?
So what's to be kept up to date with these newer players? The user interface? As several others have already pointed out, Winamp has an excellent user interface. New audio formats that Winamp can't play? Well, I've already asked that question.
So what's the urgent imperative for being kept up to date with these players?
Evan

-----Original Message----- From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 5:14 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Famous media player Winamp new version with Windows 10 support leaks online

And here lies the point,, what new things we have in this discussion say VLC and Windows Media player are better than what you had as they’re being developed and deliberately being kept up to date, user feedback is being evaluated with regards to these and future products.
So look at the subject line which talks about a new version for Winamp, where is it?


On 12 Oct 2018, at 8:10 am, Evan Reese <mentat1@...> wrote:

You're right, some people don't like change.
But there's another alternative to either changing all the time or staying behind. Change when what is new is significantly better than what you have now. Change just for the sake of change is pointless.
Evan

-----Original Message----- From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 5:05 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Famous media player Winamp new version with Windows 10 support leaks online

I’ve given this topic more thought and I think what it really boils down to is that people don’t like change regardless how good or bad something might be compared to another App, another method or whatever so here’s the point, take onboard change or stay behind and eventually stagnate.


On 12 Oct 2018, at 12:43 am, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

Tom for those of us who have only kinda run across WinAmp. What made it such a big thing with the blind? Maybe I didn't give it much a chance. But actually the 1 I used felt odd. But I only tried it. But seeing it doesn't have SRS Wow like Media Player does, I don't use it much. Meh I've tried it for streaming but that's about all. I do know lots of people love WinAmp. I have homies that do.


On 10/11/2018 12:04 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
While I've not dealt with every type of media player that ever was, I don't see how one could get a whole lot better (as far as accessibility is concerned) than Winamp; just my opinion, you understand!
Tom Kaufman

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Kelly Pierce
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2018 10:37 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Famous media player Winamp new version with Windows 10 support leaks online

Dane,

Winamp is the most accessible media player for the blind. It may be
old, but it is highly functional. I am listening to online radio with
it as I type this message. Braille slates are more than 80 years old
but they are still used because they are useful. I also own and use a
minidisc recorder. It is somewhat ancient, but it remains highly
effective for spoken word recording.

Kelly

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On 10/10/18, dennis <dennisc67@...> wrote:
i would love to get it when it comes out.

On 10/10/2018 7:12 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

Only me but I just couldn’t be bothered wasting my time wondering what
others are thinking about something that soon will be ancient history.
On 11 Oct 2018, at 8:33 am, JM Casey <crystallogic@...> (
crystallogic@... ) wrote: I have this beta. I'm skeptical how
official it is and I haven't bothered to install it, because Winamp
5.666
is working just fine for me in Windows 10. However, a couple of others
on
other lists have reported that it works well. -----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> ( all-audio@groups.io )
On
Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: October 10, 2018 4:57 PM To:
all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Famous media player Winamp new version with
Windows 10 support leaks online I probably wouldn't download it right
yet;
not until we know that it is "officially" out there! Wouldn't want
something bad to get into our computers! Tom Kaufman -----Original
Message----- From: all-audio@groups.io [ mailto:all-audio@groups.io (
all-audio@groups.io ) ] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Wednesday,
October 10, 2018 4:10 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re:
[all-audio]
Famous media player Winamp new version with Windows 10 support leaks
online all I can say is download and use at your own risk.
On 11 Oct 2018, at 6:59 am, Brian Olesen <brian@...> (
brian@... ) wrote: Famous media player Winamp new version with
Windows 10 support leaks
online
By Mayank Parmar - September 17, 2018 Winamp for Windows Remember
Winamp?
The popular media player for Windows is expected to make
a
comeback at some point. Winamp was launched by independent developers
back
in 1997 and it grew quickly popular with over 3 million downloads in a
short
span of time. In a couple of years, Winamp became one of the most
downloaded Windows applications. The app was sold to AOL in 1999 for
$80
million but it later acquired by Radionomy in 2014. Radionomy, the
current
developers of famous Winamp promised that the app will receive a new
update with several new features. A while ago, the developers published
release notes of an update but no downloadable package was available
for
users to try out. Winamp developers promised major updates ever since
it
took over the company and we are
still
waiting for that day. It's an old and outdated app but it's still being
used by millions of
users.
A new version of Winamp, which was last developed on October 26, 2016,
has
leaked online. Winamp 5.8 has been published by an unknown source and
it's
not from the official developers. It's also worth noting that
VirusTotal
scan generates two different
warnings
for the app, so we are not including the link to unreleased Winamp
update
in
this article. Winamp works fine on Windows 10 The Winamp 5.8 comes with
several new features and improvements including support for Windows 8.1
and Windows 10. It is, however, worth noting that public and stable
version of the app
works
smoothly on Windows 10, but Winamp 5.8 is supposed to address
compatibility
issues with Windows 10. As noted above, this release of Winamp comes
with
several other improvements. For example, there's a dedicated setting
that
lets you
disable
Winamp's video support and the company has also fixed some bugs to
improve
the overall performance of the player. The current owner hasn't
officially
announced any updates for the app but
as
the beta has just leaked out, there's a chance that an official
statement
will be released soon. It's also possible that the developers are
internally
testing a new and improved version of the app with better support for
Windows 10. At this point, it's not yet known whether a new Winamp
release
is planned
or
not. We are waiting for additional details from the developers and we
will
update this article if and when a statement is available.
********** Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave
the
rest of the halfwits in this world behind.
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Re: Famous media player Winamp new version with Windows 10 support leaks online

Dane Trethowan <grtdane@...>
 

All and good for you then but its not all and good for everything though is it?
I’m not against Winamp at all and as I mentioned earlier I used the software but even for me it became too bloated and I was left wondering exactly what the aims of the developers of Winamp were, to make something flashy or something that actually worked.
As I said earlier I was having trouble playing some content so I decided at that point to “Move on”, no regrets whatever there.

On 12 Oct 2018, at 10:01 am, Evan Reese <mentat1@...> wrote:

Well sure, when a new version of Windows comes out that Winamp will not run under, then absolutely, I'll find another player. Just from reading this list, I know I won't have any trouble finding a good alternative. But until then...
Evan

-----Original Message----- From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 5:44 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Famous media player Winamp new version with Windows 10 support leaks online

There are a whole heap of different audio formats but that’s really not the point.
As Windows evolves and changes that the software running on it has to evolve with Windows.


On 12 Oct 2018, at 8:20 am, Evan Reese <mentat1@...> wrote:

Being kept up to date how? How many new audio formats have you heard about in the last few years?
So what's to be kept up to date with these newer players? The user interface? As several others have already pointed out, Winamp has an excellent user interface. New audio formats that Winamp can't play? Well, I've already asked that question.
So what's the urgent imperative for being kept up to date with these players?
Evan

-----Original Message----- From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 5:14 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Famous media player Winamp new version with Windows 10 support leaks online

And here lies the point,, what new things we have in this discussion say VLC and Windows Media player are better than what you had as they’re being developed and deliberately being kept up to date, user feedback is being evaluated with regards to these and future products.
So look at the subject line which talks about a new version for Winamp, where is it?


On 12 Oct 2018, at 8:10 am, Evan Reese <mentat1@...> wrote:

You're right, some people don't like change.
But there's another alternative to either changing all the time or staying behind. Change when what is new is significantly better than what you have now. Change just for the sake of change is pointless.
Evan

-----Original Message----- From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 5:05 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Famous media player Winamp new version with Windows 10 support leaks online

I’ve given this topic more thought and I think what it really boils down to is that people don’t like change regardless how good or bad something might be compared to another App, another method or whatever so here’s the point, take onboard change or stay behind and eventually stagnate.


On 12 Oct 2018, at 12:43 am, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

Tom for those of us who have only kinda run across WinAmp. What made it such a big thing with the blind? Maybe I didn't give it much a chance. But actually the 1 I used felt odd. But I only tried it. But seeing it doesn't have SRS Wow like Media Player does, I don't use it much. Meh I've tried it for streaming but that's about all. I do know lots of people love WinAmp. I have homies that do.


On 10/11/2018 12:04 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
While I've not dealt with every type of media player that ever was, I don't see how one could get a whole lot better (as far as accessibility is concerned) than Winamp; just my opinion, you understand!
Tom Kaufman

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Kelly Pierce
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2018 10:37 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Famous media player Winamp new version with Windows 10 support leaks online

Dane,

Winamp is the most accessible media player for the blind. It may be
old, but it is highly functional. I am listening to online radio with
it as I type this message. Braille slates are more than 80 years old
but they are still used because they are useful. I also own and use a
minidisc recorder. It is somewhat ancient, but it remains highly
effective for spoken word recording.

Kelly

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On 10/10/18, dennis <dennisc67@...> wrote:
i would love to get it when it comes out.

On 10/10/2018 7:12 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

Only me but I just couldn’t be bothered wasting my time wondering what
others are thinking about something that soon will be ancient history.
On 11 Oct 2018, at 8:33 am, JM Casey <crystallogic@...> (
crystallogic@... ) wrote: I have this beta. I'm skeptical how
official it is and I haven't bothered to install it, because Winamp
5.666
is working just fine for me in Windows 10. However, a couple of others
on
other lists have reported that it works well. -----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> ( all-audio@groups.io )
On
Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: October 10, 2018 4:57 PM To:
all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Famous media player Winamp new version with
Windows 10 support leaks online I probably wouldn't download it right
yet;
not until we know that it is "officially" out there! Wouldn't want
something bad to get into our computers! Tom Kaufman -----Original
Message----- From: all-audio@groups.io [ mailto:all-audio@groups.io (
all-audio@groups.io ) ] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Wednesday,
October 10, 2018 4:10 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re:
[all-audio]
Famous media player Winamp new version with Windows 10 support leaks
online all I can say is download and use at your own risk.
On 11 Oct 2018, at 6:59 am, Brian Olesen <brian@...> (
brian@... ) wrote: Famous media player Winamp new version with
Windows 10 support leaks
online
By Mayank Parmar - September 17, 2018 Winamp for Windows Remember
Winamp?
The popular media player for Windows is expected to make
a
comeback at some point. Winamp was launched by independent developers
back
in 1997 and it grew quickly popular with over 3 million downloads in a
short
span of time. In a couple of years, Winamp became one of the most
downloaded Windows applications. The app was sold to AOL in 1999 for
$80
million but it later acquired by Radionomy in 2014. Radionomy, the
current
developers of famous Winamp promised that the app will receive a new
update with several new features. A while ago, the developers published
release notes of an update but no downloadable package was available
for
users to try out. Winamp developers promised major updates ever since
it
took over the company and we are
still
waiting for that day. It's an old and outdated app but it's still being
used by millions of
users.
A new version of Winamp, which was last developed on October 26, 2016,
has
leaked online. Winamp 5.8 has been published by an unknown source and
it's
not from the official developers. It's also worth noting that
VirusTotal
scan generates two different
warnings
for the app, so we are not including the link to unreleased Winamp
update
in
this article. Winamp works fine on Windows 10 The Winamp 5.8 comes with
several new features and improvements including support for Windows 8.1
and Windows 10. It is, however, worth noting that public and stable
version of the app
works
smoothly on Windows 10, but Winamp 5.8 is supposed to address
compatibility
issues with Windows 10. As noted above, this release of Winamp comes
with
several other improvements. For example, there's a dedicated setting
that
lets you
disable
Winamp's video support and the company has also fixed some bugs to
improve
the overall performance of the player. The current owner hasn't
officially
announced any updates for the app but
as
the beta has just leaked out, there's a chance that an official
statement
will be released soon. It's also possible that the developers are
internally
testing a new and improved version of the app with better support for
Windows 10. At this point, it's not yet known whether a new Winamp
release
is planned
or
not. We are waiting for additional details from the developers and we
will
update this article if and when a statement is available.
********** Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave
the
rest of the halfwits in this world behind.
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Re: Famous media player Winamp new version with Windows 10 support leaks online

Dane Trethowan <grtdane@...>
 

That’s a debatable point too and I do take onboard what you’re saying.
1982 was 36 years ago and in that time technology of all kinds has moved ahead in leaps and bounds.
There are many turntables available today so don’t be at all surprised if you find something far better now in the Turntable range than was available back then in 1982.
I was talking to one of the people at one of the Hi-Fi Specialist shops I frequent about this very same thing.
There are people out there who still put their faith in their 50 year old turntables and say they are the best but they sound horrible compared to many of the offerings available now and at very affordable prices too!
Some people are so convinced that their 50 year old darlings are so good that they don’t even bring them in for a service.

On 12 Oct 2018, at 9:52 am, Byron Stephens <bstephens122874@...> wrote:

New doesn't always mean better especially with turntables. When something from 1982 is way better in quality.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Evan Reese" <mentat1@...>
To: <all-audio@groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 1:57 PM
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Famous media player Winamp new version with Windows 10 support leaks online


No, it's not the same at all.
It's just saying that if something works, why is it necessary to change just for the sake of change itself? If something new is substantially better than what I'm using, then I will absolutely change. But if what I have keeps doing what I want it to do, then what's the need to get something new just because it's new?
Evan

-----Original Message----- From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 4:49 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Famous media player Winamp new version with Windows 10 support leaks online

Yep at that rate one may as well say forget about computers, we did just as well 40 years ago getting stuff done.


On 11 Oct 2018, at 3:04 pm, Tom Kaufman <tomcat53@...> wrote:

While I've not dealt with every type of media player that ever was, I don't see how one could get a whole lot better (as far as accessibility is concerned) than Winamp; just my opinion, you understand!
Tom Kaufman

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Kelly Pierce
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2018 10:37 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Famous media player Winamp new version with Windows 10 support leaks online

Dane,

Winamp is the most accessible media player for the blind. It may be
old, but it is highly functional. I am listening to online radio with
it as I type this message. Braille slates are more than 80 years old
but they are still used because they are useful. I also own and use a
minidisc recorder. It is somewhat ancient, but it remains highly
effective for spoken word recording.

Kelly

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On 10/10/18, dennis <dennisc67@...> wrote:
i would love to get it when it comes out.

On 10/10/2018 7:12 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:


Only me but I just couldn’t be bothered wasting my time wondering what
others are thinking about something that soon will be ancient history.
On 11 Oct 2018, at 8:33 am, JM Casey <crystallogic@...> (
crystallogic@... ) wrote: I have this beta. I'm skeptical how
official it is and I haven't bothered to install it, because Winamp
5.666
is working just fine for me in Windows 10. However, a couple of others
on
other lists have reported that it works well. -----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> ( all-audio@groups.io )
On
Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: October 10, 2018 4:57 PM To:
all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Famous media player Winamp new version with
Windows 10 support leaks online I probably wouldn't download it right
yet;
not until we know that it is "officially" out there! Wouldn't want
something bad to get into our computers! Tom Kaufman -----Original
Message----- From: all-audio@groups.io [ mailto:all-audio@groups.io (
all-audio@groups.io ) ] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Wednesday,
October 10, 2018 4:10 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re:
[all-audio]
Famous media player Winamp new version with Windows 10 support leaks
online all I can say is download and use at your own risk.
On 11 Oct 2018, at 6:59 am, Brian Olesen <brian@...> (
brian@... ) wrote: Famous media player Winamp new version with
Windows 10 support leaks
online
By Mayank Parmar - September 17, 2018 Winamp for Windows Remember
Winamp?
The popular media player for Windows is expected to make
a
comeback at some point. Winamp was launched by independent developers
back
in 1997 and it grew quickly popular with over 3 million downloads in a
short
span of time. In a couple of years, Winamp became one of the most
downloaded Windows applications. The app was sold to AOL in 1999 for
$80
million but it later acquired by Radionomy in 2014. Radionomy, the
current
developers of famous Winamp promised that the app will receive a new
update with several new features. A while ago, the developers published
release notes of an update but no downloadable package was available
for
users to try out. Winamp developers promised major updates ever since
it
took over the company and we are
still
waiting for that day. It's an old and outdated app but it's still being
used by millions of
users.
A new version of Winamp, which was last developed on October 26, 2016,
has
leaked online. Winamp 5.8 has been published by an unknown source and
it's
not from the official developers. It's also worth noting that
VirusTotal
scan generates two different
warnings
for the app, so we are not including the link to unreleased Winamp
update
in
this article. Winamp works fine on Windows 10 The Winamp 5.8 comes with
several new features and improvements including support for Windows 8.1
and Windows 10. It is, however, worth noting that public and stable
version of the app
works
smoothly on Windows 10, but Winamp 5.8 is supposed to address
compatibility
issues with Windows 10. As noted above, this release of Winamp comes
with
several other improvements. For example, there's a dedicated setting
that
lets you
disable
Winamp's video support and the company has also fixed some bugs to
improve
the overall performance of the player. The current owner hasn't
officially
announced any updates for the app but
as
the beta has just leaked out, there's a chance that an official
statement
will be released soon. It's also possible that the developers are
internally
testing a new and improved version of the app with better support for
Windows 10. At this point, it's not yet known whether a new Winamp
release
is planned
or
not. We are waiting for additional details from the developers and we
will
update this article if and when a statement is available.
********** Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave
the
rest of the halfwits in this world behind.
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