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Re: Uni-directional Microphones

Hamit Campos
 

Right yeah like in mid side. Thanks. By the way on this note and maybe we should re-name the thread or start a new 1 have you done true mid side? I don't know if you have heard the H6's mid side ball or if you have an H6 but I am curious as to how true the H6's rendition of mid side is. Because my only experience with mid side is a little clip of rain Neal Ewers recorded with his Sound Devices 744-T and some Shoeps mics. But that was just rain. So nothing panning left ro right like a car going buy or anything.

On 9/24/2019 12:20 AM, frank cuta wrote:
Of course they do hear equally from the front and back but usually they are
what is called a "side addressed" mic in that the xlr connector sticks out
of the top or bottom and technically they pick up equally from both sides.
It is not generally a best choice except when used with another
directional element to pick up from the front.


Frank


-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Hamit
Campos
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2019 8:03 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Uni-directional Microphones


What's a figure 8 mic look like? I keep hearing they hear from the frunt
and back. What's that mean? So hear's what I emagin. Something like an
SM58 but as well as hearing you at the front end like the 58 it heard
you even if you're talking at the XLR end of it. Sorry if this isn't too
clear but again I've not used a true figure 8. Only the H6's little mid
side ball. But not a true studio figure 8 capable mic. Well I guess my
question might be hard to answer as I guess it depends on what company
made the mic and what said mic looks like. Also I ask because I was
talking to someone and I said that I figure that the human ear drum if
compaired to mics would I suspect be omni patterned. Than in replay to
that comment someone figured they'd be figure 8. But again if figure 8
mics work as I suspect from what people say about them that doesn't add
up. Because why than do you hear things in front of your head and right
in back? Figure 8 would be a strange pattern.

On 9/23/2019 10:30 PM, tim cumings wrote:
I would not recommend a figure 8 pattern if you are sitting in the
audience and want to record the people on stage. A firugre eight
microphone picks up equally from the front and the back of the mic, so
it would pick up the audience as well as the people on stage. You
probably want a pair  of cardioid or shotgun microphones.


On 9/23/2019 10:13 PM, Hamit Campos wrote:
A pair of Matched SE-7s should do. I was going to ask if it had to be
dynamic or condencer but he says he'll be in the audiance so that
means he's pretty far. No not realy but I'm not sure how far dynamics
hear. So SE-7s would do. They're only $199 for a stereo matched pair.

On 9/23/2019 6:54 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
Hello,

A portable cardioid or shot-gun microphone taken by each speaker
will give the best results but there is going to be some handling
noise. Unless the mics are very expensive.

The common terms are omni-directional and figure 8 polar patterns
that may meet the criteria as expressed.

The choice of microphone depends upon the quality desired and the
money available. In addition to the event’s structure and location.
If all participants are co-operative.

Gena
On 23 Sep 2019, at 22:09, tim cumings <thcumings@...> wrote:

Hi, Steve.
It depends what type of microphone you are talking about. If you
mean a standard cardioid microphone, that might work fairly well.
If you meansomething that is even more directional, like a shotgun
microphone, it might be difficult if there are multiple speakers on
the stage, since you would have to move the microphone back and
forth to capture the audio from all the speakers.
Also in this particular situation I would advise that you use
headphones to insure you are getting the best possible recording.
On Sep 23, 2019, at 10:32 AM, Steve Jacobson
<steve.jacobson@...> wrote:

Does anybody have experience with using a uni-directional
microphone to record a presenter at a meeting from the audience?
I know there are directional microphones that work well to allow a
speaker to be picked up at a close range while suppressing
feedback, for example, but I am interested in being able to better
pick up a speaker from, say, the first row in the audience.  Any
thoughts on what degree this is practical would also be of interest.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson



Gena

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Re: slightly OT - using tuneIn on the iphone through a vpn

stewartross
 

can u give me the web site for the vpn which u said is ok with jaws.
also whats the web site for hma? is it ok with jaws i am running windows seven.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dane Trethowan" <grtdane@...>
To: <all-audio@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2019 1:26 PM
Subject: Re: [all-audio] slightly OT - using tuneIn on the iphone through a vpn


You might consider trying Tunnelbare first as you get 500MB of data free of charge every month and the client isn't bad for accessibility.
I don't know whether Windows 10 has a built-in VPN client these days. If it does then you could use that along with whatever VPN provider you choose.
The Mac, Android and IOS have built-in VPN clients which are perfectly accessible which is great for customisation and getting the best out of your VPN provider.


-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of stewartross
Sent: Tuesday, 24 September 2019 10:13 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] slightly OT - using tuneIn on the iphone through a vpn

hi re vpn's
can someone tell me the most axsessible vpn to use with jaws for windows thanks from stewart
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dane Trethowan" <grtdane@...>
To: <all-audio@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2019 12:59 PM
Subject: Re: [all-audio] slightly OT - using tuneIn on the iphone through a vpn


Okay so what Pro VPN client are we talking here?
I use HMA on my IOS, Android and computers.
The HMA - Hide My Ass - VPN subscription is a little on the expensive side however the reverse is that the clients are extremely accessible and you have a heap of customisation options to choose from, to optimise your VPN for different applications including streaming.
I don???t know whether Tunnelbare VPN has an IOS client but if it does then that may be worth looking at.
With Tunnelbare you get 500MB of data free every month so that might be enough without having to pay any extra for more data.


On 24 Sep 2019, at 6:44 pm, Andr?? van Deventer
<andredbsa@...>
wrote:

Hi Dane

The problem it seems is then that you need the pro version for the vpn
to work.

Regards
Andr??

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From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of
Dane Trethowan
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2019 1:23 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] slightly OT - using tuneIn on the iphone
through a vpn

And one other thing, what version of Tunein are you using? I'm using
Tunein Pro and things work here with my VPN so I can't say the same
for the free version of Tunein.


-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Andr??
van Deventer
Sent: Monday, 23 September 2019 6:27 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: [all-audio] slightly OT - using tuneIn on the iphone through
a vpn

Hi all



I realize that this is slightly off topic. My sincere apologies.

I??m trying to get tuneInon the iphone to work through a vpn. The vpn
is definitely working but tuneIn refuses to recognize the vpn. Can
someone help with this?

Thanx and regards

Andr??
















Re: slightly OT - using tuneIn on the iphone through a vpn

Dane Trethowan <grtdane@...>
 

You might consider trying Tunnelbare first as you get 500MB of data free of charge every month and the client isn't bad for accessibility.
I don't know whether Windows 10 has a built-in VPN client these days. If it does then you could use that along with whatever VPN provider you choose.
The Mac, Android and IOS have built-in VPN clients which are perfectly accessible which is great for customisation and getting the best out of your VPN provider.

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of stewartross
Sent: Tuesday, 24 September 2019 10:13 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] slightly OT - using tuneIn on the iphone through a vpn

hi re vpn's
can someone tell me the most axsessible vpn to use with jaws for windows thanks from stewart
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dane Trethowan" <grtdane@...>
To: <all-audio@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2019 12:59 PM
Subject: Re: [all-audio] slightly OT - using tuneIn on the iphone through a vpn


Okay so what Pro VPN client are we talking here?
I use HMA on my IOS, Android and computers.
The HMA - Hide My Ass - VPN subscription is a little on the expensive side however the reverse is that the clients are extremely accessible and you have a heap of customisation options to choose from, to optimise your VPN for different applications including streaming.
I don???t know whether Tunnelbare VPN has an IOS client but if it does then that may be worth looking at.
With Tunnelbare you get 500MB of data free every month so that might be enough without having to pay any extra for more data.


On 24 Sep 2019, at 6:44 pm, Andr?? van Deventer
<andredbsa@...>
wrote:

Hi Dane

The problem it seems is then that you need the pro version for the vpn
to work.

Regards
Andr??

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of
Dane Trethowan
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2019 1:23 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] slightly OT - using tuneIn on the iphone
through a vpn

And one other thing, what version of Tunein are you using? I'm using
Tunein Pro and things work here with my VPN so I can't say the same
for the free version of Tunein.


-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Andr??
van Deventer
Sent: Monday, 23 September 2019 6:27 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: [all-audio] slightly OT - using tuneIn on the iphone through
a vpn

Hi all



I realize that this is slightly off topic. My sincere apologies.

I??m trying to get tuneInon the iphone to work through a vpn. The vpn
is definitely working but tuneIn refuses to recognize the vpn. Can
someone help with this?

Thanx and regards

Andr??
















Re: slightly OT - using tuneIn on the iphone through a vpn

stewartross
 

hi re vpn's
can someone tell me the most axsessible vpn to use with jaws for windows
thanks
from stewart

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dane Trethowan" <grtdane@...>
To: <all-audio@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2019 12:59 PM
Subject: Re: [all-audio] slightly OT - using tuneIn on the iphone through a vpn


Okay so what Pro VPN client are we talking here?
I use HMA on my IOS, Android and computers.
The HMA - Hide My Ass - VPN subscription is a little on the expensive side however the reverse is that the clients are extremely accessible and you have a heap of customisation options to choose from, to optimise your VPN for different applications including streaming.
I don???t know whether Tunnelbare VPN has an IOS client but if it does then that may be worth looking at.
With Tunnelbare you get 500MB of data free every month so that might be enough without having to pay any extra for more data.


On 24 Sep 2019, at 6:44 pm, Andr?? van Deventer <andredbsa@...> wrote:

Hi Dane

The problem it seems is then that you need the pro version for the vpn to
work.

Regards
Andr??

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Dane
Trethowan
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2019 1:23 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] slightly OT - using tuneIn on the iphone through a
vpn

And one other thing, what version of Tunein are you using? I'm using Tunein
Pro and things work here with my VPN so I can't say the same for the free
version of Tunein.


-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Andr?? van
Deventer
Sent: Monday, 23 September 2019 6:27 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: [all-audio] slightly OT - using tuneIn on the iphone through a vpn

Hi all



I realize that this is slightly off topic. My sincere apologies.

I??m trying to get tuneInon the iphone to work through a vpn. The vpn is
definitely working but tuneIn refuses to recognize the vpn. Can someone
help with this?

Thanx and regards

Andr??
















Re: slightly OT - using tuneIn on the iphone through a vpn

Dane Trethowan <grtdane@...>
 

Okay so what Pro VPN client are we talking here?
I use HMA on my IOS, Android and computers.
The HMA - Hide My Ass - VPN subscription is a little on the expensive side however the reverse is that the clients are extremely accessible and you have a heap of customisation options to choose from, to optimise your VPN for different applications including streaming.
I don’t know whether Tunnelbare VPN has an IOS client but if it does then that may be worth looking at.
With Tunnelbare you get 500MB of data free every month so that might be enough without having to pay any extra for more data.

On 24 Sep 2019, at 6:44 pm, André van Deventer <andredbsa@...> wrote:

Hi Dane

The problem it seems is then that you need the pro version for the vpn to
work.

Regards
André

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Dane
Trethowan
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2019 1:23 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] slightly OT - using tuneIn on the iphone through a
vpn

And one other thing, what version of Tunein are you using? I'm using Tunein
Pro and things work here with my VPN so I can't say the same for the free
version of Tunein.


-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of André van
Deventer
Sent: Monday, 23 September 2019 6:27 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: [all-audio] slightly OT - using tuneIn on the iphone through a vpn

Hi all



I realize that this is slightly off topic. My sincere apologies.

I’m trying to get tuneInon the iphone to work through a vpn. The vpn is
definitely working but tuneIn refuses to recognize the vpn. Can someone
help with this?

Thanx and regards

André
















Re: slightly OT - using tuneIn on the iphone through a vpn

André van Deventer
 

Hi Dane

The problem it seems is then that you need the pro version for the vpn to
work.

Regards
André

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Dane
Trethowan
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2019 1:23 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] slightly OT - using tuneIn on the iphone through a
vpn

And one other thing, what version of Tunein are you using? I'm using Tunein
Pro and things work here with my VPN so I can't say the same for the free
version of Tunein.


-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of André van
Deventer
Sent: Monday, 23 September 2019 6:27 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: [all-audio] slightly OT - using tuneIn on the iphone through a vpn

Hi all



I realize that this is slightly off topic. My sincere apologies.

I’m trying to get tuneInon the iphone to work through a vpn. The vpn is
definitely working but tuneIn refuses to recognize the vpn. Can someone
help with this?

Thanx and regards

André

Re: Uni-directional Microphones

frank cuta
 

Of course they do hear equally from the front and back but usually they are
what is called a "side addressed" mic in that the xlr connector sticks out
of the top or bottom and technically they pick up equally from both sides.
It is not generally a best choice except when used with another
directional element to pick up from the front.


Frank

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Hamit
Campos
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2019 8:03 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Uni-directional Microphones


What's a figure 8 mic look like? I keep hearing they hear from the frunt
and back. What's that mean? So hear's what I emagin. Something like an
SM58 but as well as hearing you at the front end like the 58 it heard
you even if you're talking at the XLR end of it. Sorry if this isn't too
clear but again I've not used a true figure 8. Only the H6's little mid
side ball. But not a true studio figure 8 capable mic. Well I guess my
question might be hard to answer as I guess it depends on what company
made the mic and what said mic looks like. Also I ask because I was
talking to someone and I said that I figure that the human ear drum if
compaired to mics would I suspect be omni patterned. Than in replay to
that comment someone figured they'd be figure 8. But again if figure 8
mics work as I suspect from what people say about them that doesn't add
up. Because why than do you hear things in front of your head and right
in back? Figure 8 would be a strange pattern.

On 9/23/2019 10:30 PM, tim cumings wrote:
I would not recommend a figure 8 pattern if you are sitting in the
audience and want to record the people on stage. A firugre eight
microphone picks up equally from the front and the back of the mic, so
it would pick up the audience as well as the people on stage. You
probably want a pair  of cardioid or shotgun microphones.


On 9/23/2019 10:13 PM, Hamit Campos wrote:
A pair of Matched SE-7s should do. I was going to ask if it had to be
dynamic or condencer but he says he'll be in the audiance so that
means he's pretty far. No not realy but I'm not sure how far dynamics
hear. So SE-7s would do. They're only $199 for a stereo matched pair.

On 9/23/2019 6:54 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
Hello,

A portable cardioid or shot-gun microphone taken by each speaker
will give the best results but there is going to be some handling
noise. Unless the mics are very expensive.

The common terms are omni-directional and figure 8 polar patterns
that may meet the criteria as expressed.

The choice of microphone depends upon the quality desired and the
money available. In addition to the event’s structure and location. 
If all participants are co-operative.

Gena
On 23 Sep 2019, at 22:09, tim cumings <thcumings@...> wrote:

Hi, Steve.
It depends what type of microphone you are talking about. If you
mean a standard cardioid microphone, that might work fairly well.
If you meansomething that is even more directional, like a shotgun
microphone, it might be difficult if there are multiple speakers on
the stage, since you would have to move the microphone back and
forth to capture the audio from all the speakers.
Also in this particular situation I would advise that you use
headphones to insure you are getting the best possible recording.
On Sep 23, 2019, at 10:32 AM, Steve Jacobson
<steve.jacobson@...> wrote:

Does anybody have experience with using a uni-directional
microphone to record a presenter at a meeting from the audience? 
I know there are directional microphones that work well to allow a
speaker to be picked up at a close range while suppressing
feedback, for example, but I am interested in being able to better
pick up a speaker from, say, the first row in the audience.  Any
thoughts on what degree this is practical would also be of interest.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson




Gena

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Re: Uni-directional Microphones

frank cuta
 

I knew I was going to screw that up.
Its 4 o'clock and 8 o'clock! (smile)

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of frank
cuta
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2019 8:33 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Uni-directional Microphones


A true cardioid pattern has maximum rejection out the xlr end of the mic.
However the 57 and 58 and most other stage mics are super cardioid. They
offer more directivity at the cost of screwing up the perfect cardioid
pattern so that the maximum rejection is about 60 degrees from the xlr
connector or at about 5 o'clock and 7 o'clock

Frank

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Hamit
Campos
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2019 8:03 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Uni-directional Microphones


What's a figure 8 mic look like? I keep hearing they hear from the frunt
and back. What's that mean? So hear's what I emagin. Something like an
SM58 but as well as hearing you at the front end like the 58 it heard
you even if you're talking at the XLR end of it. Sorry if this isn't too
clear but again I've not used a true figure 8. Only the H6's little mid
side ball. But not a true studio figure 8 capable mic. Well I guess my
question might be hard to answer as I guess it depends on what company
made the mic and what said mic looks like. Also I ask because I was
talking to someone and I said that I figure that the human ear drum if
compaired to mics would I suspect be omni patterned. Than in replay to
that comment someone figured they'd be figure 8. But again if figure 8
mics work as I suspect from what people say about them that doesn't add
up. Because why than do you hear things in front of your head and right
in back? Figure 8 would be a strange pattern.

On 9/23/2019 10:30 PM, tim cumings wrote:
I would not recommend a figure 8 pattern if you are sitting in the
audience and want to record the people on stage. A firugre eight
microphone picks up equally from the front and the back of the mic, so
it would pick up the audience as well as the people on stage. You
probably want a pair  of cardioid or shotgun microphones.


On 9/23/2019 10:13 PM, Hamit Campos wrote:
A pair of Matched SE-7s should do. I was going to ask if it had to be
dynamic or condencer but he says he'll be in the audiance so that
means he's pretty far. No not realy but I'm not sure how far dynamics
hear. So SE-7s would do. They're only $199 for a stereo matched pair.

On 9/23/2019 6:54 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
Hello,

A portable cardioid or shot-gun microphone taken by each speaker
will give the best results but there is going to be some handling
noise. Unless the mics are very expensive.

The common terms are omni-directional and figure 8 polar patterns
that may meet the criteria as expressed.

The choice of microphone depends upon the quality desired and the
money available. In addition to the event’s structure and location. 
If all participants are co-operative.

Gena
On 23 Sep 2019, at 22:09, tim cumings <thcumings@...> wrote:

Hi, Steve.
It depends what type of microphone you are talking about. If you
mean a standard cardioid microphone, that might work fairly well.
If you meansomething that is even more directional, like a shotgun
microphone, it might be difficult if there are multiple speakers on
the stage, since you would have to move the microphone back and
forth to capture the audio from all the speakers.
Also in this particular situation I would advise that you use
headphones to insure you are getting the best possible recording.
On Sep 23, 2019, at 10:32 AM, Steve Jacobson
<steve.jacobson@...> wrote:

Does anybody have experience with using a uni-directional
microphone to record a presenter at a meeting from the audience? 
I know there are directional microphones that work well to allow a
speaker to be picked up at a close range while suppressing
feedback, for example, but I am interested in being able to better
pick up a speaker from, say, the first row in the audience.  Any
thoughts on what degree this is practical would also be of interest.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson




Gena

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Loc: IO83PS
73










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Re: Uni-directional Microphones

frank cuta
 

A true cardioid pattern has maximum rejection out the xlr end of the mic.
However the 57 and 58 and most other stage mics are super cardioid. They
offer more directivity at the cost of screwing up the perfect cardioid
pattern so that the maximum rejection is about 60 degrees from the xlr
connector or at about 5 o'clock and 7 o'clock

Frank

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Hamit
Campos
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2019 8:03 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Uni-directional Microphones


What's a figure 8 mic look like? I keep hearing they hear from the frunt
and back. What's that mean? So hear's what I emagin. Something like an
SM58 but as well as hearing you at the front end like the 58 it heard
you even if you're talking at the XLR end of it. Sorry if this isn't too
clear but again I've not used a true figure 8. Only the H6's little mid
side ball. But not a true studio figure 8 capable mic. Well I guess my
question might be hard to answer as I guess it depends on what company
made the mic and what said mic looks like. Also I ask because I was
talking to someone and I said that I figure that the human ear drum if
compaired to mics would I suspect be omni patterned. Than in replay to
that comment someone figured they'd be figure 8. But again if figure 8
mics work as I suspect from what people say about them that doesn't add
up. Because why than do you hear things in front of your head and right
in back? Figure 8 would be a strange pattern.

On 9/23/2019 10:30 PM, tim cumings wrote:
I would not recommend a figure 8 pattern if you are sitting in the
audience and want to record the people on stage. A firugre eight
microphone picks up equally from the front and the back of the mic, so
it would pick up the audience as well as the people on stage. You
probably want a pair  of cardioid or shotgun microphones.


On 9/23/2019 10:13 PM, Hamit Campos wrote:
A pair of Matched SE-7s should do. I was going to ask if it had to be
dynamic or condencer but he says he'll be in the audiance so that
means he's pretty far. No not realy but I'm not sure how far dynamics
hear. So SE-7s would do. They're only $199 for a stereo matched pair.

On 9/23/2019 6:54 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
Hello,

A portable cardioid or shot-gun microphone taken by each speaker
will give the best results but there is going to be some handling
noise. Unless the mics are very expensive.

The common terms are omni-directional and figure 8 polar patterns
that may meet the criteria as expressed.

The choice of microphone depends upon the quality desired and the
money available. In addition to the event’s structure and location. 
If all participants are co-operative.

Gena
On 23 Sep 2019, at 22:09, tim cumings <thcumings@...> wrote:

Hi, Steve.
It depends what type of microphone you are talking about. If you
mean a standard cardioid microphone, that might work fairly well.
If you meansomething that is even more directional, like a shotgun
microphone, it might be difficult if there are multiple speakers on
the stage, since you would have to move the microphone back and
forth to capture the audio from all the speakers.
Also in this particular situation I would advise that you use
headphones to insure you are getting the best possible recording.
On Sep 23, 2019, at 10:32 AM, Steve Jacobson
<steve.jacobson@...> wrote:

Does anybody have experience with using a uni-directional
microphone to record a presenter at a meeting from the audience? 
I know there are directional microphones that work well to allow a
speaker to be picked up at a close range while suppressing
feedback, for example, but I am interested in being able to better
pick up a speaker from, say, the first row in the audience.  Any
thoughts on what degree this is practical would also be of interest.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson




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Re: Uni-directional Microphones

Hamit Campos
 

What's a figure 8 mic look like? I keep hearing they hear from the frunt and back. What's that mean? So hear's what I emagin. Something like an SM58 but as well as hearing you at the front end like the 58 it heard you even if you're talking at the XLR end of it. Sorry if this isn't too clear but again I've not used a true figure 8. Only the H6's little mid side ball. But not a true studio figure 8 capable mic. Well I guess my question might be hard to answer as I guess it depends on what company made the mic and what said mic looks like. Also I ask because I was talking to someone and I said that I figure that the human ear drum if compaired to mics would I suspect be omni patterned. Than in replay to that comment someone figured they'd be figure 8. But again if figure 8 mics work as I suspect from what people say about them that doesn't add up. Because why than do you hear things in front of your head and right in back? Figure 8 would be a strange pattern.

On 9/23/2019 10:30 PM, tim cumings wrote:
I would not recommend a figure 8 pattern if you are sitting in the audience and want to record the people on stage. A firugre eight microphone picks up equally from the front and the back of the mic, so it would pick up the audience as well as the people on stage. You probably want a pair  of cardioid or shotgun microphones.


On 9/23/2019 10:13 PM, Hamit Campos wrote:
A pair of Matched SE-7s should do. I was going to ask if it had to be dynamic or condencer but he says he'll be in the audiance so that means he's pretty far. No not realy but I'm not sure how far dynamics hear. So SE-7s would do. They're only $199 for a stereo matched pair.

On 9/23/2019 6:54 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
Hello,

A portable cardioid or shot-gun microphone taken by each speaker will give the best results but there is going to be some handling noise. Unless the mics are very expensive.

The common terms are omni-directional and figure 8 polar patterns that may meet the criteria as expressed.

The choice of microphone depends upon the quality desired and the money available. In addition to the event’s structure and location.  If all participants are co-operative.

Gena
On 23 Sep 2019, at 22:09, tim cumings <thcumings@...> wrote:

Hi, Steve.
It depends what type of microphone you are talking about. If you mean a standard cardioid microphone, that might work fairly well. If you meansomething that is even more directional, like a shotgun microphone, it might be difficult if there are multiple speakers on the stage, since you would have to move the microphone back and forth to capture the audio from all the speakers.
Also in this particular situation I would advise that you use headphones to insure you are getting the best possible recording.
On Sep 23, 2019, at 10:32 AM, Steve Jacobson <steve.jacobson@...> wrote:

Does anybody have experience with using a uni-directional microphone to record a presenter at a meeting from the audience?  I know there are directional microphones that work well to allow a speaker to be picked up at a close range while suppressing feedback, for example, but I am interested in being able to better pick up a speaker from, say, the first row in the audience.  Any thoughts on what degree this is practical would also be of interest.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson




Gena

Call: M0EBP
DMR ID: 2346259
Loc: IO83PS
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Re: Uni-directional Microphones

tim cumings
 

Kelly i think you have he right approach.

On Sep 23, 2019, at 10:48 PM, Kelly Pierce <kellytalk@...> wrote:

I use a dynamic microphone because I figure it is easier to choose one
rather than have many different kinds. My gear is going to be slung
around my neck and shoulders and travel on a city bus or train so I
can’t carry a lot of stuff, like people who drive. It is best to avoid
recording from a distance if you want a quality recording. If the
speaker will be on a public address system, work to get connected to
the sound board and record directly from there. When that is not
possible, I put my microphone right in front of the audio output box
and record the speaker output.

If the person is not using audio amplification, I have a tripod
microphone stand with an extendable boom. I have both 25 foot and 50
foot microphone cords. I can sit far away from the speaker and record
everything. I have been known to wear big over the ear headphones and
follow the speaker with my microphone stand when he walks away
slightly. I am told it looks a little weird in the room, but I am
after a good recording.

Kelly


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On 9/23/19, tim cumings <thcumings@...> wrote:
I would not recommend a figure 8 pattern if you are sitting in the
audience and want to record the people on stage. A firugre eight
microphone picks up equally from the front and the back of the mic, so
it would pick up the audience as well as the people on stage. You
probably want a pair of cardioid or shotgun microphones.


On 9/23/2019 10:13 PM, Hamit Campos wrote:
A pair of Matched SE-7s should do. I was going to ask if it had to be
dynamic or condencer but he says he'll be in the audiance so that
means he's pretty far. No not realy but I'm not sure how far dynamics
hear. So SE-7s would do. They're only $199 for a stereo matched pair.

On 9/23/2019 6:54 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
Hello,

A portable cardioid or shot-gun microphone taken by each speaker will
give the best results but there is going to be some handling noise.
Unless the mics are very expensive.

The common terms are omni-directional and figure 8 polar patterns
that may meet the criteria as expressed.

The choice of microphone depends upon the quality desired and the
money available. In addition to the event’s structure and location.
If all participants are co-operative.

Gena
On 23 Sep 2019, at 22:09, tim cumings <thcumings@...> wrote:

Hi, Steve.
It depends what type of microphone you are talking about. If you
mean a standard cardioid microphone, that might work fairly well. If
you meansomething that is even more directional, like a shotgun
microphone, it might be difficult if there are multiple speakers on
the stage, since you would have to move the microphone back and
forth to capture the audio from all the speakers.
Also in this particular situation I would advise that you use
headphones to insure you are getting the best possible recording.
On Sep 23, 2019, at 10:32 AM, Steve Jacobson
<steve.jacobson@...> wrote:

Does anybody have experience with using a uni-directional
microphone to record a presenter at a meeting from the audience? I
know there are directional microphones that work well to allow a
speaker to be picked up at a close range while suppressing
feedback, for example, but I am interested in being able to better
pick up a speaker from, say, the first row in the audience. Any
thoughts on what degree this is practical would also be of interest.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson




Gena

Call: M0EBP
DMR ID: 2346259
Loc: IO83PS
73








Re: Uni-directional Microphones

Kelly Pierce
 

I use a dynamic microphone because I figure it is easier to choose one
rather than have many different kinds. My gear is going to be slung
around my neck and shoulders and travel on a city bus or train so I
can’t carry a lot of stuff, like people who drive. It is best to avoid
recording from a distance if you want a quality recording. If the
speaker will be on a public address system, work to get connected to
the sound board and record directly from there. When that is not
possible, I put my microphone right in front of the audio output box
and record the speaker output.

If the person is not using audio amplification, I have a tripod
microphone stand with an extendable boom. I have both 25 foot and 50
foot microphone cords. I can sit far away from the speaker and record
everything. I have been known to wear big over the ear headphones and
follow the speaker with my microphone stand when he walks away
slightly. I am told it looks a little weird in the room, but I am
after a good recording.

Kelly


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On 9/23/19, tim cumings <thcumings@...> wrote:
I would not recommend a figure 8 pattern if you are sitting in the
audience and want to record the people on stage. A firugre eight
microphone picks up equally from the front and the back of the mic, so
it would pick up the audience as well as the people on stage. You
probably want a pair  of cardioid or shotgun microphones.


On 9/23/2019 10:13 PM, Hamit Campos wrote:
A pair of Matched SE-7s should do. I was going to ask if it had to be
dynamic or condencer but he says he'll be in the audiance so that
means he's pretty far. No not realy but I'm not sure how far dynamics
hear. So SE-7s would do. They're only $199 for a stereo matched pair.

On 9/23/2019 6:54 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
Hello,

A portable cardioid or shot-gun microphone taken by each speaker will
give the best results but there is going to be some handling noise.
Unless the mics are very expensive.

The common terms are omni-directional and figure 8 polar patterns
that may meet the criteria as expressed.

The choice of microphone depends upon the quality desired and the
money available. In addition to the event’s structure and location.
If all participants are co-operative.

Gena
On 23 Sep 2019, at 22:09, tim cumings <thcumings@...> wrote:

Hi, Steve.
It depends what type of microphone you are talking about. If you
mean a standard cardioid microphone, that might work fairly well. If
you meansomething that is even more directional, like a shotgun
microphone, it might be difficult if there are multiple speakers on
the stage, since you would have to move the microphone back and
forth to capture the audio from all the speakers.
Also in this particular situation I would advise that you use
headphones to insure you are getting the best possible recording.
On Sep 23, 2019, at 10:32 AM, Steve Jacobson
<steve.jacobson@...> wrote:

Does anybody have experience with using a uni-directional
microphone to record a presenter at a meeting from the audience?  I
know there are directional microphones that work well to allow a
speaker to be picked up at a close range while suppressing
feedback, for example, but I am interested in being able to better
pick up a speaker from, say, the first row in the audience.  Any
thoughts on what degree this is practical would also be of interest.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson




Gena

Call: M0EBP
DMR ID: 2346259
Loc: IO83PS
73







Re: Uni-directional Microphones

tim cumings
 

I would not recommend a figure 8 pattern if you are sitting in the audience and want to record the people on stage. A firugre eight microphone picks up equally from the front and the back of the mic, so it would pick up the audience as well as the people on stage. You probably want a pair  of cardioid or shotgun microphones.

On 9/23/2019 10:13 PM, Hamit Campos wrote:
A pair of Matched SE-7s should do. I was going to ask if it had to be dynamic or condencer but he says he'll be in the audiance so that means he's pretty far. No not realy but I'm not sure how far dynamics hear. So SE-7s would do. They're only $199 for a stereo matched pair.

On 9/23/2019 6:54 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
Hello,

A portable cardioid or shot-gun microphone taken by each speaker will give the best results but there is going to be some handling noise. Unless the mics are very expensive.

The common terms are omni-directional and figure 8 polar patterns that may meet the criteria as expressed.

The choice of microphone depends upon the quality desired and the money available. In addition to the event’s structure and location.  If all participants are co-operative.

Gena
On 23 Sep 2019, at 22:09, tim cumings <thcumings@...> wrote:

Hi, Steve.
It depends what type of microphone you are talking about. If you mean a standard cardioid microphone, that might work fairly well. If you meansomething that is even more directional, like a shotgun microphone, it might be difficult if there are multiple speakers on the stage, since you would have to move the microphone back and forth to capture the audio from all the speakers.
Also in this particular situation I would advise that you use headphones to insure you are getting the best possible recording.
On Sep 23, 2019, at 10:32 AM, Steve Jacobson <steve.jacobson@...> wrote:

Does anybody have experience with using a uni-directional microphone to record a presenter at a meeting from the audience?  I know there are directional microphones that work well to allow a speaker to be picked up at a close range while suppressing feedback, for example, but I am interested in being able to better pick up a speaker from, say, the first row in the audience.  Any thoughts on what degree this is practical would also be of interest.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson




Gena

Call: M0EBP
DMR ID: 2346259
Loc: IO83PS
73




Re: Uni-directional Microphones

Hamit Campos
 

A pair of Matched SE-7s should do. I was going to ask if it had to be dynamic or condencer but he says he'll be in the audiance so that means he's pretty far. No not realy but I'm not sure how far dynamics hear. So SE-7s would do. They're only $199 for a stereo matched pair.

On 9/23/2019 6:54 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
Hello,

A portable cardioid or shot-gun microphone taken by each speaker will give the best results but there is going to be some handling noise. Unless the mics are very expensive.

The common terms are omni-directional and figure 8 polar patterns that may meet the criteria as expressed.

The choice of microphone depends upon the quality desired and the money available. In addition to the event’s structure and location. If all participants are co-operative.

Gena
On 23 Sep 2019, at 22:09, tim cumings <thcumings@...> wrote:

Hi, Steve.
It depends what type of microphone you are talking about. If you mean a standard cardioid microphone, that might work fairly well. If you meansomething that is even more directional, like a shotgun microphone, it might be difficult if there are multiple speakers on the stage, since you would have to move the microphone back and forth to capture the audio from all the speakers.
Also in this particular situation I would advise that you use headphones to insure you are getting the best possible recording.
On Sep 23, 2019, at 10:32 AM, Steve Jacobson <steve.jacobson@...> wrote:

Does anybody have experience with using a uni-directional microphone to record a presenter at a meeting from the audience? I know there are directional microphones that work well to allow a speaker to be picked up at a close range while suppressing feedback, for example, but I am interested in being able to better pick up a speaker from, say, the first row in the audience. Any thoughts on what degree this is practical would also be of interest.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson




Gena

Call: M0EBP
DMR ID: 2346259
Loc: IO83PS
73


Re: Looping With Audacity

JM Casey
 

I don't really know how to do this in Audacity ; I was using it a bit for a while but kind of put it on the back burnder. I'm trying to learn Reaper, but the learning curve is a bit steep. I could accomplish this using Goldwave. There is a trim silence feature you can use, and aside from that, you could always just find an appropriate place in the file and just repaste appropriately as needed. I think there are several ways to accomplish this and, maybe you'll have to get creative. If Audacity doesn't have a functino to automatically trim silence, or if it does but it still isn't to your liking (entirely possible), you'll have to edit manually. I have done this before as well but, it's been a while.
Sorry if this isn't too helpful, but, given the tools that you have, you should be able to accomplish something satisfactory. Someone more familiar with Audacity should certainly chime in.

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From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Robbie Curtis
Sent: September 23, 2019 1:45 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: [all-audio] Looping With Audacity

Hey Yall!


I need some help with looping a track using Audacity. I am helping a friend with her Youtube video and she wants some background music as she's talking. I know how to make the music repeat but I want to get rid of the silence in between the repetition of the song. I am totally blind so the mouse won't do me any good.


Would like your suggestions please. Thanks in advance.

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Re: Uni-directional Microphones

Georgina Joyce
 

Hello,

A portable cardioid or shot-gun microphone taken by each speaker will give the best results but there is going to be some handling noise. Unless the mics are very expensive.

The common terms are omni-directional and figure 8 polar patterns that may meet the criteria as expressed.

The choice of microphone depends upon the quality desired and the money available. In addition to the event’s structure and location. If all participants are co-operative.

Gena
On 23 Sep 2019, at 22:09, tim cumings <thcumings@...> wrote:

Hi, Steve.
It depends what type of microphone you are talking about. If you mean a standard cardioid microphone, that might work fairly well. If you meansomething that is even more directional, like a shotgun microphone, it might be difficult if there are multiple speakers on the stage, since you would have to move the microphone back and forth to capture the audio from all the speakers.
Also in this particular situation I would advise that you use headphones to insure you are getting the best possible recording.
On Sep 23, 2019, at 10:32 AM, Steve Jacobson <steve.jacobson@...> wrote:

Does anybody have experience with using a uni-directional microphone to record a presenter at a meeting from the audience? I know there are directional microphones that work well to allow a speaker to be picked up at a close range while suppressing feedback, for example, but I am interested in being able to better pick up a speaker from, say, the first row in the audience. Any thoughts on what degree this is practical would also be of interest.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson





Gena

Call: M0EBP
DMR ID: 2346259
Loc: IO83PS
73

Re: Uni-directional Microphones

tim cumings
 

Hi, Steve.
It depends what type of microphone you are talking about. If you mean a standard cardioid microphone, that might work fairly well. If you meansomething that is even more directional, like a shotgun microphone, it might be difficult if there are multiple speakers on the stage, since you would have to move the microphone back and forth to capture the audio from all the speakers.
Also in this particular situation I would advise that you use headphones to insure you are getting the best possible recording.

On Sep 23, 2019, at 10:32 AM, Steve Jacobson <steve.jacobson@...> wrote:

Does anybody have experience with using a uni-directional microphone to record a presenter at a meeting from the audience? I know there are directional microphones that work well to allow a speaker to be picked up at a close range while suppressing feedback, for example, but I am interested in being able to better pick up a speaker from, say, the first row in the audience. Any thoughts on what degree this is practical would also be of interest.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson



Looping With Audacity

Robbie Curtis
 

Hey Yall!


I need some help with looping a track using Audacity. I am helping a friend with her Youtube video and she wants some background music as she's talking. I know how to make the music repeat but I want to get rid of the silence in between the repetition of the song. I am totally blind so the mouse won't do me any good.


Would like your suggestions please. Thanks in advance.

--
Robbie J. Curtis
essence64@...
"Stay in peace, not pieces!"


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Uni-directional Microphones

Steve Jacobson
 

Does anybody have experience with using a uni-directional microphone to record a presenter at a meeting from the audience? I know there are directional microphones that work well to allow a speaker to be picked up at a close range while suppressing feedback, for example, but I am interested in being able to better pick up a speaker from, say, the first row in the audience. Any thoughts on what degree this is practical would also be of interest.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

Re: Simple AM/FM radio?

Dane Trethowan <grtdane@...>
 

No they won't, the PRD6 is a small bedside portable but will easily fit into a suitcase.
The PRD17 is a bigger set with stereo speakers, perhaps a little too big for your application.

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From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Busboom
Sent: Monday, 23 September 2019 11:58 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Simple AM/FM radio?

Hey Dane,

Thank you very much for this info. Do you know if these radios wil fit into a shirt or pants pocket?

Thanks.


On 23.09.2019, at 15:22, Dane Trethowan <grtdane@...> wrote:

Yes indeed I can recommend something, the Sangean PRD6 which is as simple a radio as you can get.
The radio has an analogue tuing dial and 2 bands, AM and FM The sound
is great and can be fully adjusted to your taste with bass and treble controls.
AM performance is superb for a $30 radio.
If you want to go a few steps further then you might want to get the Sangean PRD17 AM/FM radio with Voice Prompts.
The PRD17 is an AM/FM unit but has voice readout so you know what frequency you are tuned to, has a useable alarm clock etc.
Both these radio sets are excellent buys.


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From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike
Busboom
Sent: Monday, 23 September 2019 11:05 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: [all-audio] Simple AM/FM radio?

Hello everyone,

For my next trip to the US, where I used to live a long time ago, I’d like to purchase a small AM/FM radio that is simple to use. Many radios of this type these days have digital readouts and work well enough, but I am wondering if radios with just a tuner dial still exist.

Can anyone recommend something for me?

All the best, and thanks in advance,

Mike