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Re: Denon AVRX3400 Is Here

Anders Holmberg
 

Hi!
I get back if i found something but i don’t think there are as evrything here is internet now a days.
/A

2 maj 2018 kl. 20:18 skrev Dane Trethowan <grtdane@...>:

I'm glad you mentioned this.

There's a SDR in Sweden so can you give me any specific frequency's I should look out for on the AM band? Preferably some that very well might be in English if you don't mind <smile>.



On 3/05/2018 4:05 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote:
Hi!
Oh, intresting that Denmark and Norway now have the dab plus system.
But not here in Sweden.
I am not sure what way they have decided to go here.
THough i don’t care as i listen through the internet most of the time.
/A

2 maj 2018 kl. 16:12 skrev Brian Olesen <brian@...>:

HI,
Here in Denmark we now have the dab plus system, which is a fantastic successor to FM.
We live in the country, but we can easily receive these digital signals, and it really sounds nice and clear.
Brian

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Emne: Re: [all-audio] Denon AVRX3400 Is Here

Yeah it probabally has TuneIn Title and all that kinda stuff. Most of the hi end AVRs do. They just don't seem to have I Heart Radio though for what ever reason.


On 5/2/2018 9:47 AM, Brian Olesen wrote:
HI Dane,
Does this fine beast have more power than the old you had, or is it the same?
Could it maybe have some internet Radio capabilities since it is equipped with wifi? Or could it be some other cool streaming stuff?
I'm really curious to know, what you find out about this good amplifier as I may go of the same route as you here.

Brian

Brian

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Emne: [all-audio] Denon AVRX3400 Is Here

Hi!

Obviously I've not had a chance to get this amp going yet so I can only tell you what I've observed from glancing at the unit, I hope to have a pair of eyeballs tomorrow to guide me through the setup process.

Anyway the AVRX3400h is of the same build as the AVR2113.

Cosmetically on the front they look a little different, on the AVR2113 the front USB port, HDMI port and audio/video RCA in jacks were found under a removable trapdoor.

In this model the audio/video RCA jacks have been removed and the USB and HDMI ports on the front - along with the Microphone and Headphone socket - are clearly visible.

The Microphone's purpose is for test measurements so the system can work out how best to adjust the speakers and their acoustic characteristics to your room and a microphone along with stand comes with the unit.

Front controls are very simple, a row of 10 below the display, a source selection dial on the left and a volume control on the right.

On the rear its a different story, connections and sockets all over the place though I'm glad to see that Denon have chosen to place all the speaker terminals - 14 in all - in one long row across the near bottom, they're out of the way and easy to get to not to mention wire up.

There are dozens of RCA'S about the place, two of those are digital inputs, 2 are preamp outputs, many will befor composet and component video inputs and outputs, two will be a fono input whilst the others will be analogue inputs for older equipment, the second zone and so on.

The 10 HDMI ports run across the near top rear panel, 8 in and 2 out.

The difference here over the older model is the addition of the "Audio Return" channel for the HDMI ports.

In the past I had to run two cables to my Television, a HDMI cable from the HDMI out of the receiver - to feed the TV with the video from other sources - and a toslink audio cable to take audio from the Television into the amplifier.

Now I only need that one output cable which - as well as feed the video output from the Amp to the Television - will return the audio from the Television to the receiver so I may here it, looking forward to trying that out.

Unlike the AVR2113 the AVRX3400H has an AM tuner along with the FM, FM was very good on the 2113 so I doubt whether I'll be disappointed with the AVRX3400H. I doubt the AM section will be much chop and I don't think I'll even bother wiring up the loop antenna given I already have a DAB/FM/AM tuner ready and waiting to plug into the system through one of the digital inputs - the AVRX3400H has 4 of those -.

If home automation is your thing then it seems Denon have put quite a bit of thought into this with the now all too familiar RS232 serial port making an appearance for full programming and control of the receivers functions, 12 volt triggering for compatibility etc.

Now to something I don't understand, why have Denon even bothered with Wi-Fi connectivity? I understand that not everyone has the ability to wire directly to Lan but frankly the two Wi-Fi antenna mounted on either side of the receiver just get in the way and I can't see any way of removing those antenna, if there were a way then I'd certainly be onto it as I prefer to hard wire.

The AVRX3400H can connect to either the 2.4GHZ or 5.0GHZ bands in a variety of ways so I'm going to take some time to read through the not so well written manual tonight to find out all about that.

So yep I'm inpatient for tomorrow to come to get this thing going.
I really didn't want to upgrade to the AVRX3400H at this point.
Unfortunately the AVR2113 died so I'm now making arrangements to have that looked at. I had planned on an upgrade to an AVRX3400H or whatever was available around Christmas Time or early next years but you know what they say, the best laid plans are the ones to ruin.







--

**********
"A dog is a good thing to have around a house and so is a fence"
**********



Re: Use Of Mp3, AAC etc

Kelly Pierce
 

Dane,

Storage is still limited on the iPhone, where I listen to a lot of
music. so MP3 is still essential for the iPhone. In recent months, I
have installed a program called FLAC Squisher, which converts all flac
files in a folder to 320k MP3 files in another folder. It is necessary
to turn all my ripped flac albums into iPhone ready albums. I find
myself listening to an increasing amount of music on my phone, not at
home with big three-foot high stereo speakers.

Kelly

On 5/1/18, Dane Trethowan <grtdane@...> wrote:
I’d be surprised if there was a player around now - one that’s being
developed still I mean - that wouldn’t play FLAC, I’ve been aware of the
existence of FLAC ever since I became involved in the CD Archiving project
some 11 years ago so its pretty standard by now.
99% of the streaming devices out there support it and I’m sure most car
Entertainment systems do.


On 2 May 2018, at 8:42 am, Steve Matzura <number6@...> wrote:

iOS and Winamp play FLAC files natively. On Mac OS, you will need VLC
Media Player.


On 5/1/2018 8:48 AM, Hamit Campos wrote:
When I've ripped CDs I've used WAV or now on my IPhone I use the Apple
Lausless thing. I don't use FLAC cause I don't have much tthat will play
FLAC. Well I guess VLC does. But I mean things. The only object I have
that will is the Victor Stratus. Ya know I'm not a big fan of the victor
sound.


On 5/1/2018 7:19 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Hi!
I’m curious to know if anyone else out there has stopped using MP3 or
AAC and is just now using FLAC or even Wave files or perhaps something
similar.
I recently bought an 8TB hard drive for $300 so storage has never been
cheaper than it is now, no need to compress all those files to maximise
the amount of tracks for a certain hard drive size as used to be the
case not all that long ago.
Unlimited cloud storage has also been a factor in my case.
Sure! I have all those tracks I bought from iTunes and other services
over the years and they’re great for convenience sake but as more and
more CD’S appear on the second-hand market with replacements for those
tracks I bought on iTunes I’m ripping from those CD’S and replacing the
iTunes versions with FLAC versions.
More Music Streaming/Subscription services too are taking up the
Lossless cause so its obvious that people value there Hi-Fi setups or
are discovering just how good music can sound through a good audio setup
that doesn’t cost all that much these days.
I’ve spoken about my Yamaha Hard Drive Recorder but what I didn’t
mention was that they aren’t manufactured any longer and I do wonder why
as they’re an independent unit which allows you to store or record
Lossless audio, perhaps manufacturing costs were too high at the time?

**********
Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of
the halfwits in this world behind.












Re: help with the bose mini Bluetooth II

Joe Paton
 

Hi Jeff,

With the power and usb sockets to the right, the buttons along the top
are on/off, volume down, Mute, volume up, and bluetooth connect.

The on/off amnd bluetooth buttons at either end of the button bank, are
lower than the middle three buttons.

When you power the unit on, it should tell you the battery level in
terms of a per centage.
When the unit is on, holding the pairing/bluetooth button for a number
of seconds, the unit should say "ready to pair another device."

But in any event, you should get an audio prompt when you turn the unit
on.

Good luck, and enjoy.



Joe Paton
telephone: 01702 543624
Mobile: 0 7 9 6 7 3 8 2 9 6 4
web site: http://www.apart.org

Re: help with the Bose mini Bluetooth II

Adrian Spratt
 

If you're able to call Bose tech support, they're very good at working with visually impaired customers.

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Geoff Eden
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2018 7:12 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: [all-audio] help with the bose mini Bluetooth II

I have downloaded the manual, which, as many, is readable with the exception of symbols for the identity of the buttons.

I didn't have help nearby, and the button panel is so flat, that it's almost impossible to identify discrete button locations.

So, I plugged it in, give it a bit of a charge, and it began speaking to me telling me to pick a language. Probably foolishly, I pressed a couple of buttons, or at least what I perceived to be buttons, and it stopped talking.
Oh boy!

I put it in its charging cradle overnight and it gave me a two-tone up signal which I presumed was a kind of power on. In the morning I took it off, and received a two toned down signal which I presumed was a power discontinued signal.

Now, I'm frozen, I'm getting absolutely nothing. Hoping my son-in-law confined a couple of minutes for me over the weekend. He's usually very intuitive about this stuff. Until then, does anyone have any advice?

When I heard the speaker at the Cosco decide its little brother, I was impressed.

Enjoy your day

Geoff

help with the bose mini Bluetooth II

Geoff Eden
 

I have downloaded the manual, which, as many, is readable with the exception of symbols for the identity of the buttons.

I didn't have help nearby, and the button panel is so flat, that it's almost impossible to identify discrete button locations.

So, I plugged it in, give it a bit of a charge, and it began speaking to me telling me to pick a language. Probably foolishly, I pressed a couple of buttons, or at least what I perceived to be buttons, and it stopped talking. Oh boy!

I put it in its charging cradle overnight and it gave me a two-tone up signal which I presumed was a kind of power on. In the morning I took it off, and received a two toned down signal which I presumed was a power discontinued signal.

Now, I'm frozen, I'm getting absolutely nothing. Hoping my son-in-law confined a couple of minutes for me over the weekend. He's usually very intuitive about this stuff. Until then, does anyone have any advice?

When I heard the speaker at the Cosco decide its little brother, I was impressed.

Enjoy your day

Geoff

More on the Olympus LS-P4 recorder

Dane Trethowan <grtdane@...>
 

My most abject apologies for those of you who are sick to deaf of hearing about this recorder , simple fact is that its a beautiful machine and here’s something else to really like about it, the normalise option found in the File menu.
Unlike the Olympus LS14 the LS-P4 doesn’t have a smart level function which is a bit of a shame but not the end of the world.
So the idea then is to record using the manual record level setting set to a reasonable but not high level, you can gage this through monitoring of the recorded signal in “Record Standby” mode using headphones.
So once you’re recording is made select the file and apply the normalise option form the file menu.
Normalis will then create a normalised copy of your original work with the levels set, this function can take a while to work its magic particularly on lengthy recordings.
Normalis only works if you’re recording in PCM Wave mode at 44.1KHZ 16 bit.

Re: Denon AVRX3400 Is Here

Dane Trethowan <grtdane@...>
 

I'm glad you mentioned this.

There's a SDR in Sweden so can you give me any specific frequency's I should look out for on the AM band? Preferably some that very well might be in English if you don't mind <smile>.

On 3/05/2018 4:05 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote:
Hi!
Oh, intresting that Denmark and Norway now have the dab plus system.
But not here in Sweden.
I am not sure what way they have decided to go here.
THough i don’t care as i listen through the internet most of the time.
/A

2 maj 2018 kl. 16:12 skrev Brian Olesen <brian@...>:

HI,
Here in Denmark we now have the dab plus system, which is a fantastic successor to FM.
We live in the country, but we can easily receive these digital signals, and it really sounds nice and clear.
Brian

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Til: all-audio@groups.io
Emne: Re: [all-audio] Denon AVRX3400 Is Here

Yeah it probabally has TuneIn Title and all that kinda stuff. Most of the hi end AVRs do. They just don't seem to have I Heart Radio though for what ever reason.


On 5/2/2018 9:47 AM, Brian Olesen wrote:
HI Dane,
Does this fine beast have more power than the old you had, or is it the same?
Could it maybe have some internet Radio capabilities since it is equipped with wifi? Or could it be some other cool streaming stuff?
I'm really curious to know, what you find out about this good amplifier as I may go of the same route as you here.

Brian

Brian

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Trethowan
Sendt: 2. maj 2018 11:31
Til: all-audio@groups.io
Emne: [all-audio] Denon AVRX3400 Is Here

Hi!

Obviously I've not had a chance to get this amp going yet so I can only tell you what I've observed from glancing at the unit, I hope to have a pair of eyeballs tomorrow to guide me through the setup process.

Anyway the AVRX3400h is of the same build as the AVR2113.

Cosmetically on the front they look a little different, on the AVR2113 the front USB port, HDMI port and audio/video RCA in jacks were found under a removable trapdoor.

In this model the audio/video RCA jacks have been removed and the USB and HDMI ports on the front - along with the Microphone and Headphone socket - are clearly visible.

The Microphone's purpose is for test measurements so the system can work out how best to adjust the speakers and their acoustic characteristics to your room and a microphone along with stand comes with the unit.

Front controls are very simple, a row of 10 below the display, a source selection dial on the left and a volume control on the right.

On the rear its a different story, connections and sockets all over the place though I'm glad to see that Denon have chosen to place all the speaker terminals - 14 in all - in one long row across the near bottom, they're out of the way and easy to get to not to mention wire up.

There are dozens of RCA'S about the place, two of those are digital inputs, 2 are preamp outputs, many will befor composet and component video inputs and outputs, two will be a fono input whilst the others will be analogue inputs for older equipment, the second zone and so on.

The 10 HDMI ports run across the near top rear panel, 8 in and 2 out.

The difference here over the older model is the addition of the "Audio Return" channel for the HDMI ports.

In the past I had to run two cables to my Television, a HDMI cable from the HDMI out of the receiver - to feed the TV with the video from other sources - and a toslink audio cable to take audio from the Television into the amplifier.

Now I only need that one output cable which - as well as feed the video output from the Amp to the Television - will return the audio from the Television to the receiver so I may here it, looking forward to trying that out.

Unlike the AVR2113 the AVRX3400H has an AM tuner along with the FM, FM was very good on the 2113 so I doubt whether I'll be disappointed with the AVRX3400H. I doubt the AM section will be much chop and I don't think I'll even bother wiring up the loop antenna given I already have a DAB/FM/AM tuner ready and waiting to plug into the system through one of the digital inputs - the AVRX3400H has 4 of those -.

If home automation is your thing then it seems Denon have put quite a bit of thought into this with the now all too familiar RS232 serial port making an appearance for full programming and control of the receivers functions, 12 volt triggering for compatibility etc.

Now to something I don't understand, why have Denon even bothered with Wi-Fi connectivity? I understand that not everyone has the ability to wire directly to Lan but frankly the two Wi-Fi antenna mounted on either side of the receiver just get in the way and I can't see any way of removing those antenna, if there were a way then I'd certainly be onto it as I prefer to hard wire.

The AVRX3400H can connect to either the 2.4GHZ or 5.0GHZ bands in a variety of ways so I'm going to take some time to read through the not so well written manual tonight to find out all about that.

So yep I'm inpatient for tomorrow to come to get this thing going.
I really didn't want to upgrade to the AVRX3400H at this point.
Unfortunately the AVR2113 died so I'm now making arrangements to have that looked at. I had planned on an upgrade to an AVRX3400H or whatever was available around Christmas Time or early next years but you know what they say, the best laid plans are the ones to ruin.







--

**********
"A dog is a good thing to have around a house and so is a fence"
**********

Re: Denon AVRX3400H Surround Sound Receiver

Dane Trethowan <grtdane@...>
 

Its very confusing for the consumer yes and that's why I really wish that more companyies would adopt Play-Fi, DTS have marketed a standard however companies like Yamaha and even Denon prefer to use their own systems.

On 3/05/2018 3:46 AM, Hamit Campos wrote:
Ah cool. Cause Onkyo Bose and I think even Yamaha leave I Heart out. Why? I wander.


On 5/2/2018 11:53 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Amazingly I now have this up and running without having to go through the Setup Assistant though I still will go through this when Eyeballs arrive later today just in case I may have missed something.

I'm uUsing the Heos App with the receiver and all seems to be perfectly accessible thus far.

Yes, iHeart Radio is one of the available music sources.



--

**********
"A dog is a good thing to have around a house and so is a fence"
**********

Re: Denon AVRX3400 Is Here

Dane Trethowan <grtdane@...>
 

That's why DRM would have been better, a similar system to HD Radio on AM in the States.

On 3/05/2018 3:44 AM, Brian Olesen wrote:
HI,
Ah yes I understand. No you certainly have some serious distance condisions to consider there.


Brian

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Sendt: 2. maj 2018 16:38
Til: all-audio@groups.io
Emne: Re: [all-audio] Denon AVRX3400 Is Here

I sincerely hope your DAB+ system is far better quality than ours, a huge disappointment over here and DAB+ isn’t really meant for Australian conditions given our country is so much bigger than yours where DAB+ is the perfect solution.


On 3 May 2018, at 12:12 am, Brian Olesen <brian@...> wrote:

HI,
Here in Denmark we now have the dab plus system, which is a fantastic successor to FM.
We live in the country, but we can easily receive these digital signals, and it really sounds nice and clear.
Brian

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Fra: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> På vegne af Hamit
Campos
Sendt: 2. maj 2018 15:58
Til: all-audio@groups.io
Emne: Re: [all-audio] Denon AVRX3400 Is Here

Yeah it probabally has TuneIn Title and all that kinda stuff. Most of the hi end AVRs do. They just don't seem to have I Heart Radio though for what ever reason.


On 5/2/2018 9:47 AM, Brian Olesen wrote:
HI Dane,
Does this fine beast have more power than the old you had, or is it the same?
Could it maybe have some internet Radio capabilities since it is equipped with wifi? Or could it be some other cool streaming stuff?
I'm really curious to know, what you find out about this good amplifier as I may go of the same route as you here.

Brian

Brian

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Trethowan
Sendt: 2. maj 2018 11:31
Til: all-audio@groups.io
Emne: [all-audio] Denon AVRX3400 Is Here

Hi!

Obviously I've not had a chance to get this amp going yet so I can only tell you what I've observed from glancing at the unit, I hope to have a pair of eyeballs tomorrow to guide me through the setup process.

Anyway the AVRX3400h is of the same build as the AVR2113.

Cosmetically on the front they look a little different, on the AVR2113 the front USB port, HDMI port and audio/video RCA in jacks were found under a removable trapdoor.

In this model the audio/video RCA jacks have been removed and the USB and HDMI ports on the front - along with the Microphone and Headphone socket - are clearly visible.

The Microphone's purpose is for test measurements so the system can work out how best to adjust the speakers and their acoustic characteristics to your room and a microphone along with stand comes with the unit.

Front controls are very simple, a row of 10 below the display, a source selection dial on the left and a volume control on the right.

On the rear its a different story, connections and sockets all over the place though I'm glad to see that Denon have chosen to place all the speaker terminals - 14 in all - in one long row across the near bottom, they're out of the way and easy to get to not to mention wire up.

There are dozens of RCA'S about the place, two of those are digital inputs, 2 are preamp outputs, many will befor composet and component video inputs and outputs, two will be a fono input whilst the others will be analogue inputs for older equipment, the second zone and so on.

The 10 HDMI ports run across the near top rear panel, 8 in and 2 out.

The difference here over the older model is the addition of the "Audio Return" channel for the HDMI ports.

In the past I had to run two cables to my Television, a HDMI cable from the HDMI out of the receiver - to feed the TV with the video from other sources - and a toslink audio cable to take audio from the Television into the amplifier.

Now I only need that one output cable which - as well as feed the video output from the Amp to the Television - will return the audio from the Television to the receiver so I may here it, looking forward to trying that out.

Unlike the AVR2113 the AVRX3400H has an AM tuner along with the FM, FM was very good on the 2113 so I doubt whether I'll be disappointed with the AVRX3400H. I doubt the AM section will be much chop and I don't think I'll even bother wiring up the loop antenna given I already have a DAB/FM/AM tuner ready and waiting to plug into the system through one of the digital inputs - the AVRX3400H has 4 of those -.

If home automation is your thing then it seems Denon have put quite a bit of thought into this with the now all too familiar RS232 serial port making an appearance for full programming and control of the receivers functions, 12 volt triggering for compatibility etc.

Now to something I don't understand, why have Denon even bothered with Wi-Fi connectivity? I understand that not everyone has the ability to wire directly to Lan but frankly the two Wi-Fi antenna mounted on either side of the receiver just get in the way and I can't see any way of removing those antenna, if there were a way then I'd certainly be onto it as I prefer to hard wire.

The AVRX3400H can connect to either the 2.4GHZ or 5.0GHZ bands in a variety of ways so I'm going to take some time to read through the not so well written manual tonight to find out all about that.

So yep I'm inpatient for tomorrow to come to get this thing going.
I really didn't want to upgrade to the AVRX3400H at this point.
Unfortunately the AVR2113 died so I'm now making arrangements to have that looked at. I had planned on an upgrade to an AVRX3400H or whatever was available around Christmas Time or early next years but you know what they say, the best laid plans are the ones to ruin.











--

**********
"A dog is a good thing to have around a house and so is a fence"
**********

Re: Denon AVRX3400 Is Here

Anders Holmberg
 

Hi!
Oh, intresting that Denmark and Norway now have the dab plus system.
But not here in Sweden.
I am not sure what way they have decided to go here.
THough i don’t care as i listen through the internet most of the time.
/A

2 maj 2018 kl. 16:12 skrev Brian Olesen <brian@...>:

HI,
Here in Denmark we now have the dab plus system, which is a fantastic successor to FM.
We live in the country, but we can easily receive these digital signals, and it really sounds nice and clear.
Brian

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Fra: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> På vegne af Hamit Campos
Sendt: 2. maj 2018 15:58
Til: all-audio@groups.io
Emne: Re: [all-audio] Denon AVRX3400 Is Here

Yeah it probabally has TuneIn Title and all that kinda stuff. Most of the hi end AVRs do. They just don't seem to have I Heart Radio though for what ever reason.


On 5/2/2018 9:47 AM, Brian Olesen wrote:
HI Dane,
Does this fine beast have more power than the old you had, or is it the same?
Could it maybe have some internet Radio capabilities since it is equipped with wifi? Or could it be some other cool streaming stuff?
I'm really curious to know, what you find out about this good amplifier as I may go of the same route as you here.

Brian

Brian

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Til: all-audio@groups.io
Emne: [all-audio] Denon AVRX3400 Is Here

Hi!

Obviously I've not had a chance to get this amp going yet so I can only tell you what I've observed from glancing at the unit, I hope to have a pair of eyeballs tomorrow to guide me through the setup process.

Anyway the AVRX3400h is of the same build as the AVR2113.

Cosmetically on the front they look a little different, on the AVR2113 the front USB port, HDMI port and audio/video RCA in jacks were found under a removable trapdoor.

In this model the audio/video RCA jacks have been removed and the USB and HDMI ports on the front - along with the Microphone and Headphone socket - are clearly visible.

The Microphone's purpose is for test measurements so the system can work out how best to adjust the speakers and their acoustic characteristics to your room and a microphone along with stand comes with the unit.

Front controls are very simple, a row of 10 below the display, a source selection dial on the left and a volume control on the right.

On the rear its a different story, connections and sockets all over the place though I'm glad to see that Denon have chosen to place all the speaker terminals - 14 in all - in one long row across the near bottom, they're out of the way and easy to get to not to mention wire up.

There are dozens of RCA'S about the place, two of those are digital inputs, 2 are preamp outputs, many will befor composet and component video inputs and outputs, two will be a fono input whilst the others will be analogue inputs for older equipment, the second zone and so on.

The 10 HDMI ports run across the near top rear panel, 8 in and 2 out.

The difference here over the older model is the addition of the "Audio Return" channel for the HDMI ports.

In the past I had to run two cables to my Television, a HDMI cable from the HDMI out of the receiver - to feed the TV with the video from other sources - and a toslink audio cable to take audio from the Television into the amplifier.

Now I only need that one output cable which - as well as feed the video output from the Amp to the Television - will return the audio from the Television to the receiver so I may here it, looking forward to trying that out.

Unlike the AVR2113 the AVRX3400H has an AM tuner along with the FM, FM was very good on the 2113 so I doubt whether I'll be disappointed with the AVRX3400H. I doubt the AM section will be much chop and I don't think I'll even bother wiring up the loop antenna given I already have a DAB/FM/AM tuner ready and waiting to plug into the system through one of the digital inputs - the AVRX3400H has 4 of those -.

If home automation is your thing then it seems Denon have put quite a bit of thought into this with the now all too familiar RS232 serial port making an appearance for full programming and control of the receivers functions, 12 volt triggering for compatibility etc.

Now to something I don't understand, why have Denon even bothered with Wi-Fi connectivity? I understand that not everyone has the ability to wire directly to Lan but frankly the two Wi-Fi antenna mounted on either side of the receiver just get in the way and I can't see any way of removing those antenna, if there were a way then I'd certainly be onto it as I prefer to hard wire.

The AVRX3400H can connect to either the 2.4GHZ or 5.0GHZ bands in a variety of ways so I'm going to take some time to read through the not so well written manual tonight to find out all about that.

So yep I'm inpatient for tomorrow to come to get this thing going.
I really didn't want to upgrade to the AVRX3400H at this point.
Unfortunately the AVR2113 died so I'm now making arrangements to have that looked at. I had planned on an upgrade to an AVRX3400H or whatever was available around Christmas Time or early next years but you know what they say, the best laid plans are the ones to ruin.








Re: Denon AVRX3400H Surround Sound Receiver

Hamit Campos
 

Ah cool. Cause Onkyo Bose and I think even Yamaha leave I Heart out. Why? I wander.

On 5/2/2018 11:53 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Amazingly I now have this up and running without having to go through the Setup Assistant though I still will go through this when Eyeballs arrive later today just in case I may have missed something.

I'm uUsing the Heos App with the receiver and all seems to be perfectly accessible thus far.

Yes, iHeart Radio is one of the available music sources.

Re: Denon AVRX3400 Is Here

Brian Olesen
 

HI,
Ah yes I understand. No you certainly have some serious distance condisions to consider there.


Brian

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Emne: Re: [all-audio] Denon AVRX3400 Is Here

I sincerely hope your DAB+ system is far better quality than ours, a huge disappointment over here and DAB+ isn’t really meant for Australian conditions given our country is so much bigger than yours where DAB+ is the perfect solution.

On 3 May 2018, at 12:12 am, Brian Olesen <brian@...> wrote:

HI,
Here in Denmark we now have the dab plus system, which is a fantastic successor to FM.
We live in the country, but we can easily receive these digital signals, and it really sounds nice and clear.
Brian

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Emne: Re: [all-audio] Denon AVRX3400 Is Here

Yeah it probabally has TuneIn Title and all that kinda stuff. Most of the hi end AVRs do. They just don't seem to have I Heart Radio though for what ever reason.


On 5/2/2018 9:47 AM, Brian Olesen wrote:
HI Dane,
Does this fine beast have more power than the old you had, or is it the same?
Could it maybe have some internet Radio capabilities since it is equipped with wifi? Or could it be some other cool streaming stuff?
I'm really curious to know, what you find out about this good amplifier as I may go of the same route as you here.

Brian

Brian

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Emne: [all-audio] Denon AVRX3400 Is Here

Hi!

Obviously I've not had a chance to get this amp going yet so I can only tell you what I've observed from glancing at the unit, I hope to have a pair of eyeballs tomorrow to guide me through the setup process.

Anyway the AVRX3400h is of the same build as the AVR2113.

Cosmetically on the front they look a little different, on the AVR2113 the front USB port, HDMI port and audio/video RCA in jacks were found under a removable trapdoor.

In this model the audio/video RCA jacks have been removed and the USB and HDMI ports on the front - along with the Microphone and Headphone socket - are clearly visible.

The Microphone's purpose is for test measurements so the system can work out how best to adjust the speakers and their acoustic characteristics to your room and a microphone along with stand comes with the unit.

Front controls are very simple, a row of 10 below the display, a source selection dial on the left and a volume control on the right.

On the rear its a different story, connections and sockets all over the place though I'm glad to see that Denon have chosen to place all the speaker terminals - 14 in all - in one long row across the near bottom, they're out of the way and easy to get to not to mention wire up.

There are dozens of RCA'S about the place, two of those are digital inputs, 2 are preamp outputs, many will befor composet and component video inputs and outputs, two will be a fono input whilst the others will be analogue inputs for older equipment, the second zone and so on.

The 10 HDMI ports run across the near top rear panel, 8 in and 2 out.

The difference here over the older model is the addition of the "Audio Return" channel for the HDMI ports.

In the past I had to run two cables to my Television, a HDMI cable from the HDMI out of the receiver - to feed the TV with the video from other sources - and a toslink audio cable to take audio from the Television into the amplifier.

Now I only need that one output cable which - as well as feed the video output from the Amp to the Television - will return the audio from the Television to the receiver so I may here it, looking forward to trying that out.

Unlike the AVR2113 the AVRX3400H has an AM tuner along with the FM, FM was very good on the 2113 so I doubt whether I'll be disappointed with the AVRX3400H. I doubt the AM section will be much chop and I don't think I'll even bother wiring up the loop antenna given I already have a DAB/FM/AM tuner ready and waiting to plug into the system through one of the digital inputs - the AVRX3400H has 4 of those -.

If home automation is your thing then it seems Denon have put quite a bit of thought into this with the now all too familiar RS232 serial port making an appearance for full programming and control of the receivers functions, 12 volt triggering for compatibility etc.

Now to something I don't understand, why have Denon even bothered with Wi-Fi connectivity? I understand that not everyone has the ability to wire directly to Lan but frankly the two Wi-Fi antenna mounted on either side of the receiver just get in the way and I can't see any way of removing those antenna, if there were a way then I'd certainly be onto it as I prefer to hard wire.

The AVRX3400H can connect to either the 2.4GHZ or 5.0GHZ bands in a variety of ways so I'm going to take some time to read through the not so well written manual tonight to find out all about that.

So yep I'm inpatient for tomorrow to come to get this thing going.
I really didn't want to upgrade to the AVRX3400H at this point.
Unfortunately the AVR2113 died so I'm now making arrangements to have that looked at. I had planned on an upgrade to an AVRX3400H or whatever was available around Christmas Time or early next years but you know what they say, the best laid plans are the ones to ruin.








Re: Denon AVRX3400 Is Here

Brian Olesen
 

Hi Dane,
Thanks for replying. Oh yes you're perfectly right about the development of technology.

Brian

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Emne: Re: [all-audio] Denon AVRX3400 Is Here

Yes, its more powerful than the older model I had.
Actually the 3400H wasn’t my model of choice, I wanted the model down which is the 2400H however the place I got the Receiver from had the 3400H on special and thus it was only $200 more expensive than what I would have paid fro the 2400H so quite a bargain was to be had <smile>.
Oh yes, this receiver is built around streaming and around a network thus Internet Radio is a part of all that along with just about every music subscription service you can think of.
My older amp had quite a few streaming options but nowhere near as many as presented in the 3400H.
We have to remember too that the older model - the avr2113 - is now 6 years old and technology has marched along without stopping in those 6 years.

On 2 May 2018, at 11:47 pm, Brian Olesen <brian@...> wrote:

HI Dane,
Does this fine beast have more power than the old you had, or is it the same?
Could it maybe have some internet Radio capabilities since it is equipped with wifi? Or could it be some other cool streaming stuff?
I'm really curious to know, what you find out about this good amplifier as I may go of the same route as you here.

Brian

Brian

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Emne: [all-audio] Denon AVRX3400 Is Here

Hi!

Obviously I've not had a chance to get this amp going yet so I can only tell you what I've observed from glancing at the unit, I hope to have a pair of eyeballs tomorrow to guide me through the setup process.

Anyway the AVRX3400h is of the same build as the AVR2113.

Cosmetically on the front they look a little different, on the AVR2113 the front USB port, HDMI port and audio/video RCA in jacks were found under a removable trapdoor.

In this model the audio/video RCA jacks have been removed and the USB and HDMI ports on the front - along with the Microphone and Headphone socket - are clearly visible.

The Microphone's purpose is for test measurements so the system can work out how best to adjust the speakers and their acoustic characteristics to your room and a microphone along with stand comes with the unit.

Front controls are very simple, a row of 10 below the display, a source selection dial on the left and a volume control on the right.

On the rear its a different story, connections and sockets all over the place though I'm glad to see that Denon have chosen to place all the speaker terminals - 14 in all - in one long row across the near bottom, they're out of the way and easy to get to not to mention wire up.

There are dozens of RCA'S about the place, two of those are digital inputs, 2 are preamp outputs, many will befor composet and component video inputs and outputs, two will be a fono input whilst the others will be analogue inputs for older equipment, the second zone and so on.

The 10 HDMI ports run across the near top rear panel, 8 in and 2 out.

The difference here over the older model is the addition of the "Audio Return" channel for the HDMI ports.

In the past I had to run two cables to my Television, a HDMI cable from the HDMI out of the receiver - to feed the TV with the video from other sources - and a toslink audio cable to take audio from the Television into the amplifier.

Now I only need that one output cable which - as well as feed the video output from the Amp to the Television - will return the audio from the Television to the receiver so I may here it, looking forward to trying that out.

Unlike the AVR2113 the AVRX3400H has an AM tuner along with the FM, FM was very good on the 2113 so I doubt whether I'll be disappointed with the AVRX3400H. I doubt the AM section will be much chop and I don't think I'll even bother wiring up the loop antenna given I already have a DAB/FM/AM tuner ready and waiting to plug into the system through one of the digital inputs - the AVRX3400H has 4 of those -.

If home automation is your thing then it seems Denon have put quite a bit of thought into this with the now all too familiar RS232 serial port making an appearance for full programming and control of the receivers functions, 12 volt triggering for compatibility etc.

Now to something I don't understand, why have Denon even bothered with Wi-Fi connectivity? I understand that not everyone has the ability to wire directly to Lan but frankly the two Wi-Fi antenna mounted on either side of the receiver just get in the way and I can't see any way of removing those antenna, if there were a way then I'd certainly be onto it as I prefer to hard wire.

The AVRX3400H can connect to either the 2.4GHZ or 5.0GHZ bands in a variety of ways so I'm going to take some time to read through the not so well written manual tonight to find out all about that.

So yep I'm inpatient for tomorrow to come to get this thing going.
I really didn't want to upgrade to the AVRX3400H at this point.
Unfortunately the AVR2113 died so I'm now making arrangements to have that looked at. I had planned on an upgrade to an AVRX3400H or whatever was available around Christmas Time or early next years but you know what they say, the best laid plans are the ones to ruin.


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**********







Denon AVRX3400H Surround Sound Receiver

Dane Trethowan <grtdane@...>
 

Amazingly I now have this up and running without having to go through the Setup Assistant though I still will go through this when Eyeballs arrive later today just in case I may have missed something.

I'm uUsing the Heos App with the receiver and all seems to be perfectly accessible thus far.

Yes, iHeart Radio is one of the available music sources.


--

**********
"A dog is a good thing to have around a house and so is a fence"
**********

Re: Denon AVRX3400 Is Here

Dane Trethowan <grtdane@...>
 

I sincerely hope your DAB+ system is far better quality than ours, a huge disappointment over here and DAB+ isn’t really meant for Australian conditions given our country is so much bigger than yours where DAB+ is the perfect solution.

On 3 May 2018, at 12:12 am, Brian Olesen <brian@...> wrote:

HI,
Here in Denmark we now have the dab plus system, which is a fantastic successor to FM.
We live in the country, but we can easily receive these digital signals, and it really sounds nice and clear.
Brian

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Emne: Re: [all-audio] Denon AVRX3400 Is Here

Yeah it probabally has TuneIn Title and all that kinda stuff. Most of the hi end AVRs do. They just don't seem to have I Heart Radio though for what ever reason.


On 5/2/2018 9:47 AM, Brian Olesen wrote:
HI Dane,
Does this fine beast have more power than the old you had, or is it the same?
Could it maybe have some internet Radio capabilities since it is equipped with wifi? Or could it be some other cool streaming stuff?
I'm really curious to know, what you find out about this good amplifier as I may go of the same route as you here.

Brian

Brian

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Emne: [all-audio] Denon AVRX3400 Is Here

Hi!

Obviously I've not had a chance to get this amp going yet so I can only tell you what I've observed from glancing at the unit, I hope to have a pair of eyeballs tomorrow to guide me through the setup process.

Anyway the AVRX3400h is of the same build as the AVR2113.

Cosmetically on the front they look a little different, on the AVR2113 the front USB port, HDMI port and audio/video RCA in jacks were found under a removable trapdoor.

In this model the audio/video RCA jacks have been removed and the USB and HDMI ports on the front - along with the Microphone and Headphone socket - are clearly visible.

The Microphone's purpose is for test measurements so the system can work out how best to adjust the speakers and their acoustic characteristics to your room and a microphone along with stand comes with the unit.

Front controls are very simple, a row of 10 below the display, a source selection dial on the left and a volume control on the right.

On the rear its a different story, connections and sockets all over the place though I'm glad to see that Denon have chosen to place all the speaker terminals - 14 in all - in one long row across the near bottom, they're out of the way and easy to get to not to mention wire up.

There are dozens of RCA'S about the place, two of those are digital inputs, 2 are preamp outputs, many will befor composet and component video inputs and outputs, two will be a fono input whilst the others will be analogue inputs for older equipment, the second zone and so on.

The 10 HDMI ports run across the near top rear panel, 8 in and 2 out.

The difference here over the older model is the addition of the "Audio Return" channel for the HDMI ports.

In the past I had to run two cables to my Television, a HDMI cable from the HDMI out of the receiver - to feed the TV with the video from other sources - and a toslink audio cable to take audio from the Television into the amplifier.

Now I only need that one output cable which - as well as feed the video output from the Amp to the Television - will return the audio from the Television to the receiver so I may here it, looking forward to trying that out.

Unlike the AVR2113 the AVRX3400H has an AM tuner along with the FM, FM was very good on the 2113 so I doubt whether I'll be disappointed with the AVRX3400H. I doubt the AM section will be much chop and I don't think I'll even bother wiring up the loop antenna given I already have a DAB/FM/AM tuner ready and waiting to plug into the system through one of the digital inputs - the AVRX3400H has 4 of those -.

If home automation is your thing then it seems Denon have put quite a bit of thought into this with the now all too familiar RS232 serial port making an appearance for full programming and control of the receivers functions, 12 volt triggering for compatibility etc.

Now to something I don't understand, why have Denon even bothered with Wi-Fi connectivity? I understand that not everyone has the ability to wire directly to Lan but frankly the two Wi-Fi antenna mounted on either side of the receiver just get in the way and I can't see any way of removing those antenna, if there were a way then I'd certainly be onto it as I prefer to hard wire.

The AVRX3400H can connect to either the 2.4GHZ or 5.0GHZ bands in a variety of ways so I'm going to take some time to read through the not so well written manual tonight to find out all about that.

So yep I'm inpatient for tomorrow to come to get this thing going.
I really didn't want to upgrade to the AVRX3400H at this point.
Unfortunately the AVR2113 died so I'm now making arrangements to have that looked at. I had planned on an upgrade to an AVRX3400H or whatever was available around Christmas Time or early next years but you know what they say, the best laid plans are the ones to ruin.








Re: Denon AVRX3400 Is Here

Dane Trethowan <grtdane@...>
 

I believe this has iHeart Radio.
Certainly all the Play-Fi devices I have support it.
If it turns out the Denon AVRX3400H doesn’t have iHeart then I can always stream it from a device that has to the Receiver.

On 2 May 2018, at 11:58 pm, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

Yeah it probabally has TuneIn Title and all that kinda stuff. Most of the hi end AVRs do. They just don't seem to have I Heart Radio though for what ever reason.


On 5/2/2018 9:47 AM, Brian Olesen wrote:
HI Dane,
Does this fine beast have more power than the old you had, or is it the same?
Could it maybe have some internet Radio capabilities since it is equipped with wifi? Or could it be some other cool streaming stuff?
I'm really curious to know, what you find out about this good amplifier as I may go of the same route as you here.

Brian

Brian

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Emne: [all-audio] Denon AVRX3400 Is Here

Hi!

Obviously I've not had a chance to get this amp going yet so I can only tell you what I've observed from glancing at the unit, I hope to have a pair of eyeballs tomorrow to guide me through the setup process.

Anyway the AVRX3400h is of the same build as the AVR2113.

Cosmetically on the front they look a little different, on the AVR2113 the front USB port, HDMI port and audio/video RCA in jacks were found under a removable trapdoor.

In this model the audio/video RCA jacks have been removed and the USB and HDMI ports on the front - along with the Microphone and Headphone socket - are clearly visible.

The Microphone's purpose is for test measurements so the system can work out how best to adjust the speakers and their acoustic characteristics to your room and a microphone along with stand comes with the unit.

Front controls are very simple, a row of 10 below the display, a source selection dial on the left and a volume control on the right.

On the rear its a different story, connections and sockets all over the place though I'm glad to see that Denon have chosen to place all the speaker terminals - 14 in all - in one long row across the near bottom, they're out of the way and easy to get to not to mention wire up.

There are dozens of RCA'S about the place, two of those are digital inputs, 2 are preamp outputs, many will befor composet and component video inputs and outputs, two will be a fono input whilst the others will be analogue inputs for older equipment, the second zone and so on.

The 10 HDMI ports run across the near top rear panel, 8 in and 2 out.

The difference here over the older model is the addition of the "Audio Return" channel for the HDMI ports.

In the past I had to run two cables to my Television, a HDMI cable from the HDMI out of the receiver - to feed the TV with the video from other sources - and a toslink audio cable to take audio from the Television into the amplifier.

Now I only need that one output cable which - as well as feed the video output from the Amp to the Television - will return the audio from the Television to the receiver so I may here it, looking forward to trying that out.

Unlike the AVR2113 the AVRX3400H has an AM tuner along with the FM, FM was very good on the 2113 so I doubt whether I'll be disappointed with the AVRX3400H. I doubt the AM section will be much chop and I don't think I'll even bother wiring up the loop antenna given I already have a DAB/FM/AM tuner ready and waiting to plug into the system through one of the digital inputs - the AVRX3400H has 4 of those -.

If home automation is your thing then it seems Denon have put quite a bit of thought into this with the now all too familiar RS232 serial port making an appearance for full programming and control of the receivers functions, 12 volt triggering for compatibility etc.

Now to something I don't understand, why have Denon even bothered with Wi-Fi connectivity? I understand that not everyone has the ability to wire directly to Lan but frankly the two Wi-Fi antenna mounted on either side of the receiver just get in the way and I can't see any way of removing those antenna, if there were a way then I'd certainly be onto it as I prefer to hard wire.

The AVRX3400H can connect to either the 2.4GHZ or 5.0GHZ bands in a variety of ways so I'm going to take some time to read through the not so well written manual tonight to find out all about that.

So yep I'm inpatient for tomorrow to come to get this thing going.
I really didn't want to upgrade to the AVRX3400H at this point.
Unfortunately the AVR2113 died so I'm now making arrangements to have that looked at. I had planned on an upgrade to an AVRX3400H or whatever was available around Christmas Time or early next years but you know what they say, the best laid plans are the ones to ruin.




Re: Denon AVRX3400 Is Here

Dane Trethowan <grtdane@...>
 

Yes, its more powerful than the older model I had.
Actually the 3400H wasn’t my model of choice, I wanted the model down which is the 2400H however the place I got the Receiver from had the 3400H on special and thus it was only $200 more expensive than what I would have paid fro the 2400H so quite a bargain was to be had <smile>.
Oh yes, this receiver is built around streaming and around a network thus Internet Radio is a part of all that along with just about every music subscription service you can think of.
My older amp had quite a few streaming options but nowhere near as many as presented in the 3400H.
We have to remember too that the older model - the avr2113 - is now 6 years old and technology has marched along without stopping in those 6 years.

On 2 May 2018, at 11:47 pm, Brian Olesen <brian@...> wrote:

HI Dane,
Does this fine beast have more power than the old you had, or is it the same?
Could it maybe have some internet Radio capabilities since it is equipped with wifi? Or could it be some other cool streaming stuff?
I'm really curious to know, what you find out about this good amplifier as I may go of the same route as you here.

Brian

Brian

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Emne: [all-audio] Denon AVRX3400 Is Here

Hi!

Obviously I've not had a chance to get this amp going yet so I can only tell you what I've observed from glancing at the unit, I hope to have a pair of eyeballs tomorrow to guide me through the setup process.

Anyway the AVRX3400h is of the same build as the AVR2113.

Cosmetically on the front they look a little different, on the AVR2113 the front USB port, HDMI port and audio/video RCA in jacks were found under a removable trapdoor.

In this model the audio/video RCA jacks have been removed and the USB and HDMI ports on the front - along with the Microphone and Headphone socket - are clearly visible.

The Microphone's purpose is for test measurements so the system can work out how best to adjust the speakers and their acoustic characteristics to your room and a microphone along with stand comes with the unit.

Front controls are very simple, a row of 10 below the display, a source selection dial on the left and a volume control on the right.

On the rear its a different story, connections and sockets all over the place though I'm glad to see that Denon have chosen to place all the speaker terminals - 14 in all - in one long row across the near bottom, they're out of the way and easy to get to not to mention wire up.

There are dozens of RCA'S about the place, two of those are digital inputs, 2 are preamp outputs, many will befor composet and component video inputs and outputs, two will be a fono input whilst the others will be analogue inputs for older equipment, the second zone and so on.

The 10 HDMI ports run across the near top rear panel, 8 in and 2 out.

The difference here over the older model is the addition of the "Audio Return" channel for the HDMI ports.

In the past I had to run two cables to my Television, a HDMI cable from the HDMI out of the receiver - to feed the TV with the video from other sources - and a toslink audio cable to take audio from the Television into the amplifier.

Now I only need that one output cable which - as well as feed the video output from the Amp to the Television - will return the audio from the Television to the receiver so I may here it, looking forward to trying that out.

Unlike the AVR2113 the AVRX3400H has an AM tuner along with the FM, FM was very good on the 2113 so I doubt whether I'll be disappointed with the AVRX3400H. I doubt the AM section will be much chop and I don't think I'll even bother wiring up the loop antenna given I already have a DAB/FM/AM tuner ready and waiting to plug into the system through one of the digital inputs - the AVRX3400H has 4 of those -.

If home automation is your thing then it seems Denon have put quite a bit of thought into this with the now all too familiar RS232 serial port making an appearance for full programming and control of the receivers functions, 12 volt triggering for compatibility etc.

Now to something I don't understand, why have Denon even bothered with Wi-Fi connectivity? I understand that not everyone has the ability to wire directly to Lan but frankly the two Wi-Fi antenna mounted on either side of the receiver just get in the way and I can't see any way of removing those antenna, if there were a way then I'd certainly be onto it as I prefer to hard wire.

The AVRX3400H can connect to either the 2.4GHZ or 5.0GHZ bands in a variety of ways so I'm going to take some time to read through the not so well written manual tonight to find out all about that.

So yep I'm inpatient for tomorrow to come to get this thing going.
I really didn't want to upgrade to the AVRX3400H at this point.
Unfortunately the AVR2113 died so I'm now making arrangements to have that looked at. I had planned on an upgrade to an AVRX3400H or whatever was available around Christmas Time or early next years but you know what they say, the best laid plans are the ones to ruin.


--

**********
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**********







Re: Denon AVRX3400 Is Here

Brian Olesen
 

HI,
Here in Denmark we now have the dab plus system, which is a fantastic successor to FM.
We live in the country, but we can easily receive these digital signals, and it really sounds nice and clear.
Brian

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Emne: Re: [all-audio] Denon AVRX3400 Is Here

Yeah it probabally has TuneIn Title and all that kinda stuff. Most of the hi end AVRs do. They just don't seem to have I Heart Radio though for what ever reason.

On 5/2/2018 9:47 AM, Brian Olesen wrote:
HI Dane,
Does this fine beast have more power than the old you had, or is it the same?
Could it maybe have some internet Radio capabilities since it is equipped with wifi? Or could it be some other cool streaming stuff?
I'm really curious to know, what you find out about this good amplifier as I may go of the same route as you here.

Brian

Brian

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Emne: [all-audio] Denon AVRX3400 Is Here

Hi!

Obviously I've not had a chance to get this amp going yet so I can only tell you what I've observed from glancing at the unit, I hope to have a pair of eyeballs tomorrow to guide me through the setup process.

Anyway the AVRX3400h is of the same build as the AVR2113.

Cosmetically on the front they look a little different, on the AVR2113 the front USB port, HDMI port and audio/video RCA in jacks were found under a removable trapdoor.

In this model the audio/video RCA jacks have been removed and the USB and HDMI ports on the front - along with the Microphone and Headphone socket - are clearly visible.

The Microphone's purpose is for test measurements so the system can work out how best to adjust the speakers and their acoustic characteristics to your room and a microphone along with stand comes with the unit.

Front controls are very simple, a row of 10 below the display, a source selection dial on the left and a volume control on the right.

On the rear its a different story, connections and sockets all over the place though I'm glad to see that Denon have chosen to place all the speaker terminals - 14 in all - in one long row across the near bottom, they're out of the way and easy to get to not to mention wire up.

There are dozens of RCA'S about the place, two of those are digital inputs, 2 are preamp outputs, many will befor composet and component video inputs and outputs, two will be a fono input whilst the others will be analogue inputs for older equipment, the second zone and so on.

The 10 HDMI ports run across the near top rear panel, 8 in and 2 out.

The difference here over the older model is the addition of the "Audio Return" channel for the HDMI ports.

In the past I had to run two cables to my Television, a HDMI cable from the HDMI out of the receiver - to feed the TV with the video from other sources - and a toslink audio cable to take audio from the Television into the amplifier.

Now I only need that one output cable which - as well as feed the video output from the Amp to the Television - will return the audio from the Television to the receiver so I may here it, looking forward to trying that out.

Unlike the AVR2113 the AVRX3400H has an AM tuner along with the FM, FM was very good on the 2113 so I doubt whether I'll be disappointed with the AVRX3400H. I doubt the AM section will be much chop and I don't think I'll even bother wiring up the loop antenna given I already have a DAB/FM/AM tuner ready and waiting to plug into the system through one of the digital inputs - the AVRX3400H has 4 of those -.

If home automation is your thing then it seems Denon have put quite a bit of thought into this with the now all too familiar RS232 serial port making an appearance for full programming and control of the receivers functions, 12 volt triggering for compatibility etc.

Now to something I don't understand, why have Denon even bothered with Wi-Fi connectivity? I understand that not everyone has the ability to wire directly to Lan but frankly the two Wi-Fi antenna mounted on either side of the receiver just get in the way and I can't see any way of removing those antenna, if there were a way then I'd certainly be onto it as I prefer to hard wire.

The AVRX3400H can connect to either the 2.4GHZ or 5.0GHZ bands in a variety of ways so I'm going to take some time to read through the not so well written manual tonight to find out all about that.

So yep I'm inpatient for tomorrow to come to get this thing going.
I really didn't want to upgrade to the AVRX3400H at this point.
Unfortunately the AVR2113 died so I'm now making arrangements to have that looked at. I had planned on an upgrade to an AVRX3400H or whatever was available around Christmas Time or early next years but you know what they say, the best laid plans are the ones to ruin.

Re: Denon AVRX3400 Is Here

Hamit Campos
 

Yeah it probabally has TuneIn Title and all that kinda stuff. Most of the hi end AVRs do. They just don't seem to have I Heart Radio though for what ever reason.

On 5/2/2018 9:47 AM, Brian Olesen wrote:
HI Dane,
Does this fine beast have more power than the old you had, or is it the same?
Could it maybe have some internet Radio capabilities since it is equipped with wifi? Or could it be some other cool streaming stuff?
I'm really curious to know, what you find out about this good amplifier as I may go of the same route as you here.

Brian

Brian

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Emne: [all-audio] Denon AVRX3400 Is Here

Hi!

Obviously I've not had a chance to get this amp going yet so I can only tell you what I've observed from glancing at the unit, I hope to have a pair of eyeballs tomorrow to guide me through the setup process.

Anyway the AVRX3400h is of the same build as the AVR2113.

Cosmetically on the front they look a little different, on the AVR2113 the front USB port, HDMI port and audio/video RCA in jacks were found under a removable trapdoor.

In this model the audio/video RCA jacks have been removed and the USB and HDMI ports on the front - along with the Microphone and Headphone socket - are clearly visible.

The Microphone's purpose is for test measurements so the system can work out how best to adjust the speakers and their acoustic characteristics to your room and a microphone along with stand comes with the unit.

Front controls are very simple, a row of 10 below the display, a source selection dial on the left and a volume control on the right.

On the rear its a different story, connections and sockets all over the place though I'm glad to see that Denon have chosen to place all the speaker terminals - 14 in all - in one long row across the near bottom, they're out of the way and easy to get to not to mention wire up.

There are dozens of RCA'S about the place, two of those are digital inputs, 2 are preamp outputs, many will befor composet and component video inputs and outputs, two will be a fono input whilst the others will be analogue inputs for older equipment, the second zone and so on.

The 10 HDMI ports run across the near top rear panel, 8 in and 2 out.

The difference here over the older model is the addition of the "Audio Return" channel for the HDMI ports.

In the past I had to run two cables to my Television, a HDMI cable from the HDMI out of the receiver - to feed the TV with the video from other sources - and a toslink audio cable to take audio from the Television into the amplifier.

Now I only need that one output cable which - as well as feed the video output from the Amp to the Television - will return the audio from the Television to the receiver so I may here it, looking forward to trying that out.

Unlike the AVR2113 the AVRX3400H has an AM tuner along with the FM, FM was very good on the 2113 so I doubt whether I'll be disappointed with the AVRX3400H. I doubt the AM section will be much chop and I don't think I'll even bother wiring up the loop antenna given I already have a DAB/FM/AM tuner ready and waiting to plug into the system through one of the digital inputs - the AVRX3400H has 4 of those -.

If home automation is your thing then it seems Denon have put quite a bit of thought into this with the now all too familiar RS232 serial port making an appearance for full programming and control of the receivers functions, 12 volt triggering for compatibility etc.

Now to something I don't understand, why have Denon even bothered with Wi-Fi connectivity? I understand that not everyone has the ability to wire directly to Lan but frankly the two Wi-Fi antenna mounted on either side of the receiver just get in the way and I can't see any way of removing those antenna, if there were a way then I'd certainly be onto it as I prefer to hard wire.

The AVRX3400H can connect to either the 2.4GHZ or 5.0GHZ bands in a variety of ways so I'm going to take some time to read through the not so well written manual tonight to find out all about that.

So yep I'm inpatient for tomorrow to come to get this thing going.
I really didn't want to upgrade to the AVRX3400H at this point.
Unfortunately the AVR2113 died so I'm now making arrangements to have that looked at. I had planned on an upgrade to an AVRX3400H or whatever was available around Christmas Time or early next years but you know what they say, the best laid plans are the ones to ruin.

Re: Denon AVRX3400 Is Here

Brian Olesen
 

HI Dane,
Does this fine beast have more power than the old you had, or is it the same?
Could it maybe have some internet Radio capabilities since it is equipped with wifi? Or could it be some other cool streaming stuff?
I'm really curious to know, what you find out about this good amplifier as I may go of the same route as you here.

Brian

Brian

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Fra: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> På vegne af Dane Trethowan
Sendt: 2. maj 2018 11:31
Til: all-audio@groups.io
Emne: [all-audio] Denon AVRX3400 Is Here

Hi!

Obviously I've not had a chance to get this amp going yet so I can only tell you what I've observed from glancing at the unit, I hope to have a pair of eyeballs tomorrow to guide me through the setup process.

Anyway the AVRX3400h is of the same build as the AVR2113.

Cosmetically on the front they look a little different, on the AVR2113 the front USB port, HDMI port and audio/video RCA in jacks were found under a removable trapdoor.

In this model the audio/video RCA jacks have been removed and the USB and HDMI ports on the front - along with the Microphone and Headphone socket - are clearly visible.

The Microphone's purpose is for test measurements so the system can work out how best to adjust the speakers and their acoustic characteristics to your room and a microphone along with stand comes with the unit.

Front controls are very simple, a row of 10 below the display, a source selection dial on the left and a volume control on the right.

On the rear its a different story, connections and sockets all over the place though I'm glad to see that Denon have chosen to place all the speaker terminals - 14 in all - in one long row across the near bottom, they're out of the way and easy to get to not to mention wire up.

There are dozens of RCA'S about the place, two of those are digital inputs, 2 are preamp outputs, many will befor composet and component video inputs and outputs, two will be a fono input whilst the others will be analogue inputs for older equipment, the second zone and so on.

The 10 HDMI ports run across the near top rear panel, 8 in and 2 out.

The difference here over the older model is the addition of the "Audio Return" channel for the HDMI ports.

In the past I had to run two cables to my Television, a HDMI cable from the HDMI out of the receiver - to feed the TV with the video from other sources - and a toslink audio cable to take audio from the Television into the amplifier.

Now I only need that one output cable which - as well as feed the video output from the Amp to the Television - will return the audio from the Television to the receiver so I may here it, looking forward to trying that out.

Unlike the AVR2113 the AVRX3400H has an AM tuner along with the FM, FM was very good on the 2113 so I doubt whether I'll be disappointed with the AVRX3400H. I doubt the AM section will be much chop and I don't think I'll even bother wiring up the loop antenna given I already have a DAB/FM/AM tuner ready and waiting to plug into the system through one of the digital inputs - the AVRX3400H has 4 of those -.

If home automation is your thing then it seems Denon have put quite a bit of thought into this with the now all too familiar RS232 serial port making an appearance for full programming and control of the receivers functions, 12 volt triggering for compatibility etc.

Now to something I don't understand, why have Denon even bothered with Wi-Fi connectivity? I understand that not everyone has the ability to wire directly to Lan but frankly the two Wi-Fi antenna mounted on either side of the receiver just get in the way and I can't see any way of removing those antenna, if there were a way then I'd certainly be onto it as I prefer to hard wire.

The AVRX3400H can connect to either the 2.4GHZ or 5.0GHZ bands in a variety of ways so I'm going to take some time to read through the not so well written manual tonight to find out all about that.

So yep I'm inpatient for tomorrow to come to get this thing going.
I really didn't want to upgrade to the AVRX3400H at this point.
Unfortunately the AVR2113 died so I'm now making arrangements to have that looked at. I had planned on an upgrade to an AVRX3400H or whatever was available around Christmas Time or early next years but you know what they say, the best laid plans are the ones to ruin.


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