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Creating Daisy Audio

Andrea Sherry
 

There was one a program called Daisy490 or some such.

It wasn't really very sophisticated but did a quick and dirty conversion of audio to daisy.

Can find that Obi program but not the other one.

Anyone know where it might be.

Cheers

Andrea

Re: A couple of gold wave questions

Colin Howard
 

Greetings,

Sorry this is so late but have been suffering email and pc problems for the
last few weeks and only just seen your post.

I am using GW V5.70 but what I write applies equally to your version.

1. To enable jumping in small increments, you need to set the zoom level.
When GW opens a file, normally the screen shows in visual form the whole
length, hence moving markers / arrows, moves a percentage of the whole file.

In GW, go to the view menu, ensure scrollock (ctrl l) is checked, this
enables arrow / marker movements. Go down the menu, you will find loads of
zoom-related entries, zoom in is shift up, zoom out shift down, then there
are several presets, such as zoom to ten seconds, zoom to one secont . . .
what these mean is only the specified length of the file is shown on the
screen hence the arrow / marker values are appropriately changed. I mostly
tend to set my zoom rate at one second, which is alt with one.

To help, you may care also to set the edit field in the play tab, this
follows the rewind/wind forward settings and, certainly in versions before
any of the V6 ones, by default is set to 0.00, I have mine set to 0.15,
which means whenever I move a marker or arrow, I hear fifteen hundredths of
the zoom value, in most cases this is adequate for my editting and setting
this field increases both accuracy and speed of complex edits and use of
other effects.

2. The three play controls are intended to be used to access the file in
different ways. I have mine set as follows which gives me all the
flexibility I could desire.

Play1, executed by F2 is set to play all, meaning it starts at the beginning
of the file.

Play2, executed by F3, I have set to play selection, meaning I play anything
between start and end marker.

Play3, executed by F4 which, in versions below 6 is not set by default, I
have set to play view, meaning it plays whatever is showing on the screen.

These can be set in the play tab of control properties.

When GW first opens the file all these play controls start at the beginning
and play the file in it's entirity, their action is, thus, ruled by your
settings of zoom, you can, therefore, see how important setting the best
zoom rate for your needs is of the utmost importance.

Late though I am, hope the above explanations prove to be useful and if I
can assist further, having used GW in it's various forms since 2006, please
get in touch.

On Sat, 2 Nov 2019 00:33:14 -0400, "JOHN RIEHL via Groups.Io"
<REALMAN02=VERIZON.NET@groups.io> wrote:

-Hi. I'm using Gold wave v6.41 and JAWS 2020. I have lengthy MP3 files of
-lectures I'm trying to edit. I'm able to set beginning and end markers with
-the [ and ] keys and then delete portions I want to delete. However, when I
-press the right and left arrows to move through the cuts, I skip ahead or
-back at least five minutes, which is way too long a time. I'd like to set
-the time Gold wave skips ahead or back when I'm going through a lecture to,
-say, one minute. How do I do this? Changing the fields for play 1, 2 and 3
-in the play menu don't seem to have any effect. Thanks!
-
-
-
-Also, what do play 1, play 2 and play3 do, anyway?
-
-Thanks. John
-
-
-

Re: Routing my computer audio and/or Speech into a DAW or TeamTalk?

JM Casey
 

Not sure about TeamTalk, but you shouldn't need any more channels or even an
interface if the programme is set up to do this -- I know Zoom will let
others hear your sounds and presumably that could be recorded as well. DAWs
generally seem to have a loopback option of some kind (in some cases it used
to be called "what you hear") that will allow this. I have also heard of
Virtual Audio Cable, which might help you -- not really sure about this as I
haven't tried it, but others on the list probably know about its specific
usefulness.

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Sent: December 6, 2019 10:19 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: [all-audio] Routing my computer audio and/or Speech into a DAW or
TeamTalk?

Hello,

I've recently purchased a Scarlet Solo USB audio interface with the
intention of recording my mic and guitar. Using it as an input device in
Windows to record in my DAW with my mic or guitar is fine. The bit I'm
wondering about is if I wanted to record a demo and capture NVDA. I'd also
like to be able to route NVDA and other system audio through TeamTalk for
others to hear. Would I require an interface with more channels for this or
a program? On Mac I accomplish this with audio highjack to capture system
audio and loopback to play it through Skype or TeamTalk. Thanks in advance.
Best, Jesse

Routing my computer audio and/or Speech into a DAW or TeamTalk?

Jesse Tregarthen
 

Hello,

I've recently purchased a Scarlet Solo USB audio interface with the intention of recording my mic and guitar. Using it as an input device in Windows to record in my DAW with my mic or guitar is fine. The bit I'm wondering about is if I wanted to record a demo and capture NVDA. I'd also like to be able to route NVDA and other system audio through TeamTalk for others to hear. Would I require an interface with more channels for this or a program? On Mac I accomplish this with audio highjack to capture system audio and loopback to play it through Skype or TeamTalk. Thanks in advance. Best,
Jesse

22,050Hz stereo vs mono

Curtis Delzer
 

Is the frequency response the same in both stereo in mono for *.wav files? someone told me some years ago that if a stereo *.wav file, it is 11,025 per side of frequency response, which I believe is about half that number for the high end of treble, e.g. 5512Hz meaning 22050 should be better if, that is if the sides in stereo actually use 22,050Hz. Speech should be ok up to 11,000Hz, because most sibilence don't reach that or nearly that. We don't wish to use a strange bit rate, but again, that question. I am not discussing *.mp3 files which are compressions and have their own algorithm.

THANKS for ideas and straightening out my thinking.

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bluetooth speakers with eq controls?

goshawk on horseback
 

hello all,
by good luck, rather than judgement, I recently came across the Marshall range of bluetooth speakers, that feature actual bass and treble controls. with some of the internet old time radio stations I listen to, on my phone when I am not at home, this is super handy, as some of the recordings these stations play, are far from good quality.
I thought that I would enquire however, if anyone knows of any other such speakers, better still if there are any that feature a 3band, 5band, or more eq on them.

Simon

Re: The Complete Audio 2

Georgina Joyce
 

Hello Hamit,

Well ask about the drivers required. Sadly, some functionality is done via a driver on some devices. I wanted an ID22 the interface that the Booth Junky uses. But their support told me that some work was being done in terms of accessibility. But at this moment in time it was not and on the 22 a significant part of it’s functions are controlled by software.

Regards,

Gena
On 15 Nov 2019, at 18:53, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

I'm interested in anything that does full HD my friend. Again 139 bucks ain't bad. I'd get it totally.

On 11/15/2019 1:46 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
Hello Hamit,

The Zoom is a recorder so the cost is based on the cost of production. The interface part is a small part of it’s total.

A dedicated interface is going to have better pre-amps than a multiple function device like the Zoom.

Are you in the market for an interface?

Gena
On 15 Nov 2019, at 18:28, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

Yeah same here. Sweet Water says they are hi quality. Not saying they're trash. Don't get me wrong. I was sympaly saying just cause of the price difference I'd assume something like the H6 though more than just an interface would have better guts. Like my brother Roger likes to bring up sure the interface is 139 bucks. But how good are the guts how much are those pre's how much is the dac and so on. In other words he kinda likes to say that just because something costs 139$ don't expect your take on what a 139$ device should sound like to be true. He said this when we were talking about the LS-14 of Olympus and I was saying to him that though it was okayish it didn't seem to me to be really the little brother of the 100 like Olympus seemed to wana cell it as.

On 11/15/2019 11:21 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
Hello Hamit,

I don’t know it would require deep reading. Oh yes, the advantage of boosting the source with a fethead lowers the noise floor for dynamic mics and the fethead fantom for condensers.

I have a collection of Audient ID and Focusrite Scarlett interfaces so not in the market for a new interface.

I didn’t understand your comments regarding the cost difference between the 2 very different devices.

I would like to know how good those pre-amps are on that range of interfaces.

Regards,

Gena

On 15 Nov 2019, at 13:45, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

Ah yes I do recall him saying that. Especially for dinamic mics. Also someone else demoed a cloud lifter to pump up an SM7B on an H6. In that case that video was an SM7B mic demo more than an H6 demo. So you're saying that the pre's in this interface might be quieter then the H6 ones? Interesting. Like I said I'll check out the demos later on today.

On 11/15/2019 6:23 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
Hello Hamit,

What you were looking at is an audio interface and the Zoom is a recorder. Yes the 6 can act as an interface but the Native Instruments Complete Audio is just the USB interface. What is important with interfaces is the noise floor on the pre-amps. As you use an extremely quiet mic it is important to use a pre-amp with a very low noise floor. You might be aware that the Booth Junky suggests using a fethead with the Zoom so that the pre-amps are not so noisy.

Regards,

Gena

On 15 Nov 2019, at 03:43, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

Wow just red about the Complete audio 2 on Sweet Water's page. It does 192 KHZ 24 bits full HD audio. For only $139. Awesome. I'll check out the demos tomorow because I can't think a 139$ thing would sound any better than a 400$ Zoom H6. Even if it does do full 192 KHZ. Still though Full HD for only 139 bucks, pretty good deal for someone starting out me thinks.



Gena

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Gena

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Gena

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Re: The Complete Audio 2

Hamit Campos
 

I'm interested in anything that does full HD my friend. Again 139 bucks ain't bad. I'd get it totally.

On 11/15/2019 1:46 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
Hello Hamit,

The Zoom is a recorder so the cost is based on the cost of production. The interface part is a small part of it’s total.

A dedicated interface is going to have better pre-amps than a multiple function device like the Zoom.

Are you in the market for an interface?

Gena
On 15 Nov 2019, at 18:28, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

Yeah same here. Sweet Water says they are hi quality. Not saying they're trash. Don't get me wrong. I was sympaly saying just cause of the price difference I'd assume something like the H6 though more than just an interface would have better guts. Like my brother Roger likes to bring up sure the interface is 139 bucks. But how good are the guts how much are those pre's how much is the dac and so on. In other words he kinda likes to say that just because something costs 139$ don't expect your take on what a 139$ device should sound like to be true. He said this when we were talking about the LS-14 of Olympus and I was saying to him that though it was okayish it didn't seem to me to be really the little brother of the 100 like Olympus seemed to wana cell it as.

On 11/15/2019 11:21 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
Hello Hamit,

I don’t know it would require deep reading. Oh yes, the advantage of boosting the source with a fethead lowers the noise floor for dynamic mics and the fethead fantom for condensers.

I have a collection of Audient ID and Focusrite Scarlett interfaces so not in the market for a new interface.

I didn’t understand your comments regarding the cost difference between the 2 very different devices.

I would like to know how good those pre-amps are on that range of interfaces.

Regards,

Gena

On 15 Nov 2019, at 13:45, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

Ah yes I do recall him saying that. Especially for dinamic mics. Also someone else demoed a cloud lifter to pump up an SM7B on an H6. In that case that video was an SM7B mic demo more than an H6 demo. So you're saying that the pre's in this interface might be quieter then the H6 ones? Interesting. Like I said I'll check out the demos later on today.

On 11/15/2019 6:23 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
Hello Hamit,

What you were looking at is an audio interface and the Zoom is a recorder. Yes the 6 can act as an interface but the Native Instruments Complete Audio is just the USB interface. What is important with interfaces is the noise floor on the pre-amps. As you use an extremely quiet mic it is important to use a pre-amp with a very low noise floor. You might be aware that the Booth Junky suggests using a fethead with the Zoom so that the pre-amps are not so noisy.

Regards,

Gena

On 15 Nov 2019, at 03:43, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

Wow just red about the Complete audio 2 on Sweet Water's page. It does 192 KHZ 24 bits full HD audio. For only $139. Awesome. I'll check out the demos tomorow because I can't think a 139$ thing would sound any better than a 400$ Zoom H6. Even if it does do full 192 KHZ. Still though Full HD for only 139 bucks, pretty good deal for someone starting out me thinks.



Gena

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Gena

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Gena

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Re: The Complete Audio 2

Georgina Joyce
 

Hello Hamit,

The Zoom is a recorder so the cost is based on the cost of production. The interface part is a small part of it’s total.

A dedicated interface is going to have better pre-amps than a multiple function device like the Zoom.

Are you in the market for an interface?

Gena
On 15 Nov 2019, at 18:28, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

Yeah same here. Sweet Water says they are hi quality. Not saying they're trash. Don't get me wrong. I was sympaly saying just cause of the price difference I'd assume something like the H6 though more than just an interface would have better guts. Like my brother Roger likes to bring up sure the interface is 139 bucks. But how good are the guts how much are those pre's how much is the dac and so on. In other words he kinda likes to say that just because something costs 139$ don't expect your take on what a 139$ device should sound like to be true. He said this when we were talking about the LS-14 of Olympus and I was saying to him that though it was okayish it didn't seem to me to be really the little brother of the 100 like Olympus seemed to wana cell it as.

On 11/15/2019 11:21 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
Hello Hamit,

I don’t know it would require deep reading. Oh yes, the advantage of boosting the source with a fethead lowers the noise floor for dynamic mics and the fethead fantom for condensers.

I have a collection of Audient ID and Focusrite Scarlett interfaces so not in the market for a new interface.

I didn’t understand your comments regarding the cost difference between the 2 very different devices.

I would like to know how good those pre-amps are on that range of interfaces.

Regards,

Gena

On 15 Nov 2019, at 13:45, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

Ah yes I do recall him saying that. Especially for dinamic mics. Also someone else demoed a cloud lifter to pump up an SM7B on an H6. In that case that video was an SM7B mic demo more than an H6 demo. So you're saying that the pre's in this interface might be quieter then the H6 ones? Interesting. Like I said I'll check out the demos later on today.

On 11/15/2019 6:23 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
Hello Hamit,

What you were looking at is an audio interface and the Zoom is a recorder. Yes the 6 can act as an interface but the Native Instruments Complete Audio is just the USB interface. What is important with interfaces is the noise floor on the pre-amps. As you use an extremely quiet mic it is important to use a pre-amp with a very low noise floor. You might be aware that the Booth Junky suggests using a fethead with the Zoom so that the pre-amps are not so noisy.

Regards,

Gena

On 15 Nov 2019, at 03:43, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

Wow just red about the Complete audio 2 on Sweet Water's page. It does 192 KHZ 24 bits full HD audio. For only $139. Awesome. I'll check out the demos tomorow because I can't think a 139$ thing would sound any better than a 400$ Zoom H6. Even if it does do full 192 KHZ. Still though Full HD for only 139 bucks, pretty good deal for someone starting out me thinks.



Gena

Call: M0EBP
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Gena

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Gena

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Re: The Complete Audio 2

Hamit Campos
 

Yeah same here. Sweet Water says they are hi quality. Not saying they're trash. Don't get me wrong. I was sympaly saying just cause of the price difference I'd assume something like the H6 though more than just an interface would have better guts. Like my brother Roger likes to bring up sure the interface is 139 bucks. But how good are the guts how much are those pre's how much is the dac and so on. In other words he kinda likes to say that just because something costs 139$ don't expect your take on what a 139$ device should sound like to be true. He said this when we were talking about the LS-14 of Olympus and I was saying to him that though it was okayish it didn't seem to me to be really the little brother of the 100 like Olympus seemed to wana cell it as.

On 11/15/2019 11:21 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
Hello Hamit,

I don’t know it would require deep reading. Oh yes, the advantage of boosting the source with a fethead lowers the noise floor for dynamic mics and the fethead fantom for condensers.

I have a collection of Audient ID and Focusrite Scarlett interfaces so not in the market for a new interface.

I didn’t understand your comments regarding the cost difference between the 2 very different devices.

I would like to know how good those pre-amps are on that range of interfaces.

Regards,

Gena

On 15 Nov 2019, at 13:45, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

Ah yes I do recall him saying that. Especially for dinamic mics. Also someone else demoed a cloud lifter to pump up an SM7B on an H6. In that case that video was an SM7B mic demo more than an H6 demo. So you're saying that the pre's in this interface might be quieter then the H6 ones? Interesting. Like I said I'll check out the demos later on today.

On 11/15/2019 6:23 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
Hello Hamit,

What you were looking at is an audio interface and the Zoom is a recorder. Yes the 6 can act as an interface but the Native Instruments Complete Audio is just the USB interface. What is important with interfaces is the noise floor on the pre-amps. As you use an extremely quiet mic it is important to use a pre-amp with a very low noise floor. You might be aware that the Booth Junky suggests using a fethead with the Zoom so that the pre-amps are not so noisy.

Regards,

Gena

On 15 Nov 2019, at 03:43, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

Wow just red about the Complete audio 2 on Sweet Water's page. It does 192 KHZ 24 bits full HD audio. For only $139. Awesome. I'll check out the demos tomorow because I can't think a 139$ thing would sound any better than a 400$ Zoom H6. Even if it does do full 192 KHZ. Still though Full HD for only 139 bucks, pretty good deal for someone starting out me thinks.



Gena

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Gena

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Re: The Complete Audio 2

Georgina Joyce
 

Hello Hamit,

I don’t know it would require deep reading. Oh yes, the advantage of boosting the source with a fethead lowers the noise floor for dynamic mics and the fethead fantom for condensers.

I have a collection of Audient ID and Focusrite Scarlett interfaces so not in the market for a new interface.

I didn’t understand your comments regarding the cost difference between the 2 very different devices.

I would like to know how good those pre-amps are on that range of interfaces.

Regards,

Gena

On 15 Nov 2019, at 13:45, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

Ah yes I do recall him saying that. Especially for dinamic mics. Also someone else demoed a cloud lifter to pump up an SM7B on an H6. In that case that video was an SM7B mic demo more than an H6 demo. So you're saying that the pre's in this interface might be quieter then the H6 ones? Interesting. Like I said I'll check out the demos later on today.

On 11/15/2019 6:23 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
Hello Hamit,

What you were looking at is an audio interface and the Zoom is a recorder. Yes the 6 can act as an interface but the Native Instruments Complete Audio is just the USB interface. What is important with interfaces is the noise floor on the pre-amps. As you use an extremely quiet mic it is important to use a pre-amp with a very low noise floor. You might be aware that the Booth Junky suggests using a fethead with the Zoom so that the pre-amps are not so noisy.

Regards,

Gena

On 15 Nov 2019, at 03:43, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

Wow just red about the Complete audio 2 on Sweet Water's page. It does 192 KHZ 24 bits full HD audio. For only $139. Awesome. I'll check out the demos tomorow because I can't think a 139$ thing would sound any better than a 400$ Zoom H6. Even if it does do full 192 KHZ. Still though Full HD for only 139 bucks, pretty good deal for someone starting out me thinks.



Gena

Call: M0EBP
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Gena

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Re: The Complete Audio 2

Hamit Campos
 

Ah yes I do recall him saying that. Especially for dinamic mics. Also someone else demoed a cloud lifter to pump up an SM7B on an H6. In that case that video was an SM7B mic demo more than an H6 demo. So you're saying that the pre's in this interface might be quieter then the H6 ones? Interesting. Like I said I'll check out the demos later on today.

On 11/15/2019 6:23 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
Hello Hamit,

What you were looking at is an audio interface and the Zoom is a recorder. Yes the 6 can act as an interface but the Native Instruments Complete Audio is just the USB interface. What is important with interfaces is the noise floor on the pre-amps. As you use an extremely quiet mic it is important to use a pre-amp with a very low noise floor. You might be aware that the Booth Junky suggests using a fethead with the Zoom so that the pre-amps are not so noisy.

Regards,

Gena

On 15 Nov 2019, at 03:43, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

Wow just red about the Complete audio 2 on Sweet Water's page. It does 192 KHZ 24 bits full HD audio. For only $139. Awesome. I'll check out the demos tomorow because I can't think a 139$ thing would sound any better than a 400$ Zoom H6. Even if it does do full 192 KHZ. Still though Full HD for only 139 bucks, pretty good deal for someone starting out me thinks.



Gena

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Re: The Complete Audio 2

Brian Olesen
 

Hi,
Exactly! I'm recommending it too.

Brian

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Emne: [all-audio] The Complete Audio 2

Wow just red about the Complete audio 2 on Sweet Water's page. It does
192 KHZ 24 bits full HD audio. For only $139. Awesome. I'll check out the demos tomorow because I can't think a 139$ thing would sound any better than a 400$ Zoom H6. Even if it does do full 192 KHZ. Still though Full HD for only 139 bucks, pretty good deal for someone starting out me thinks.

Re: The Complete Audio 2

Georgina Joyce
 

Hello Hamit,

What you were looking at is an audio interface and the Zoom is a recorder. Yes the 6 can act as an interface but the Native Instruments Complete Audio is just the USB interface. What is important with interfaces is the noise floor on the pre-amps. As you use an extremely quiet mic it is important to use a pre-amp with a very low noise floor. You might be aware that the Booth Junky suggests using a fethead with the Zoom so that the pre-amps are not so noisy.

Regards,

Gena

On 15 Nov 2019, at 03:43, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

Wow just red about the Complete audio 2 on Sweet Water's page. It does 192 KHZ 24 bits full HD audio. For only $139. Awesome. I'll check out the demos tomorow because I can't think a 139$ thing would sound any better than a 400$ Zoom H6. Even if it does do full 192 KHZ. Still though Full HD for only 139 bucks, pretty good deal for someone starting out me thinks.



Gena

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The Complete Audio 2

Hamit Campos
 

Wow just red about the Complete audio 2 on Sweet Water's page. It does 192 KHZ 24 bits full HD audio. For only $139. Awesome. I'll check out the demos tomorow because I can't think a 139$ thing would sound any better than a 400$ Zoom H6. Even if it does do full 192 KHZ. Still though Full HD for only 139 bucks, pretty good deal for someone starting out me thinks.

Re: Bluetooth Headphone Recommendations for listening to Lossless Music Files?

Hamit Campos
 

Ah so it's small than. I thought it was some AVR kinda thing. Like I said and thanks Gena for reminding me of it but I've heard of it ages and ages ago on Home Theater Geeks I think it was. Because though it was a home theater show Scott also talked about headphones and things every so often. HD Audio which is what this here thread is parcially about was a thing on Home Theater Geeks as well. So I think it was on some of those eppisodes perhaps that the draggon fly came up. Again thanks for reminding me of it Gena.

On 11/14/2019 5:39 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
Hello,

I am waiting for mine to be delivered. I understand that you buy a few adapters to connect to any kind of device. You can use Apples camera connection kit to use the fly on IOS devices. I believe you can buy an USB C tail to play from USB devices. Most of these do not require drivers. I saw on eBay there were high quality 3.5 to RCA silver leads if you want to have the best.

I am struggling to rip my CD’s again in lossless. It is not easy on a Mac and on Windows is not as easy as it was in the 90’s. I don’t see the point of using a dragon fly on compressed files as the DACs in devices will do the job. But if you have a good source then it is beneficial to have a good playback system. Start with a good source then follow it through.

To answer the question what is a Dragon Fly if research has not all ready been done. It’s the quicker way <smiles>. Here are a couple of youtube reviews:

This review is for the red which is the middle one of the range:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYTcoF6VAzo

A more technical review of the top of the range:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E32-o4oonME


Regards,
On 14 Nov 2019, at 19:26, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

Ah yes I've heard of the dragonfly. I've forgotten to see if I could hear 1 when we've gone to bestbuy. Do you have 1? What is it hooked up to?

On 11/14/2019 1:39 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
Hello,


If you were to push the limits and want to hear the sound as the artists intended you wouldn’t play lossless files through a computer’s sound system. You would use a dedicated DAC and the most popular for audiophiles is the Audio Quest Dragon Fly. Great way to listen to high quality lossless files.

Regards,


On 14 Nov 2019, at 13:44, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

Ah that's true too. Meh I'm a teck geek so I get into speks. But I just was saying something similar to what you were saying because I think Gena was saying how studio headphones are pretty clinical. So I was just saying that though that maybe true and if true I'd love a pair of studio cans but how clinical is the device to be used? Like I said PC wize I like Dell audio better than HP. Dells are brighter. Meh HP is improving. But also even with Dells my 2007 Enspiron has better left center and right immaging in it's stereo panning. But meh it's bass is wimpy. There is good middle frequency infact it does sound pretty natural but it does lac that bass. Also the super Rode NT1-A like brightness is missing too. Now to be fair I don't have it's drivers installed. So who knows I'd have to downgrade it to Vista to truely hear once again what an Enspiron 530S really sounds like. As for my 2014 3847 desktop meh there's gimics Realtek uses in the drivers for that 1 I couldn't care for. But love the brightness and bass to it. The stereo can be too rediculous wide and unatral but meh that's those Realtek gimics me thinks. But oh wells. So yeah I boot up the good old trusty 530S for stereo panning mostly. Though it is mad slow. I say again I wish I had the $2900 for the MSI Trident. That thing sounds glorious.

On 11/14/2019 7:41 AM, Brian Olesen wrote:
Hi,
I think any one, who really loves music should stick to their ears rather than be blown out of their socks by the technical specifications.
We all listen to so very different sound sources and music genres, and no single set of cans do provide a universal approach to this. I mean some likes a very tight bass, where others loves very soft sounding gentle headphones.
Others again likes a screaming high pitched sound, where some feels the same sound makes them believe they've tinnitus. Grin
There for. If the headphone you're seeking really should suit your needs then you'd want to give them a listen first, and decide what color of sound you want.
They can be so darn wild on the paper specs, but it won't matter, if you simply just don't like their sound, or should we say, if your ears don't fit their specific sound profile.
For example I have a relatively cheap pair of Yamahas I truly love, and I mean really love!
I think they're just about $ 120 or so, and they sound really good to me. Then I also have a $ 500 plus pair of Bayer dynamics that well kind of sounds good, but don't knocks me off the chair, if you know what I mean.
So what does it help to have a pair of cans that can communicate with bats using ultra sound, if you don't like their low-end sound?
Smile

Best regards
Brian



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Emne: Re: [all-audio] Bluetooth Headphone Recommendations for listening to Lossless Music Files?

Ah well if we go down this rode you also have to consider your computer phone or aVR or what ever other device. Different PCs and even from the same company depending on model give you a different flavor. I suppose you will get with studio headphones or studio monitoring speakers a more honest sound but how honest is the device? For stereo spread I love my
2007 slim Enspiron 530S. But it's bass is wimpy and there's none of that real bright condencer like crispness. My 2014 3847 tower does that better but there are sound effect gimics I don't like to it's sound. Man it's another reason I wish I had $2500 for an MSI Trident. That PC is pure epicness.

On 11/13/2019 2:38 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
Hello,

OK, no problem. But realise you are not experiencing the full benefits of lossless. Headphone manufacturers tune headphones with their own equaliser settings. Studio headphones affect the sound less and represent the sound as published.

I accept your desire but as for me I like to hear the sound the artists want to present. I can add base or treble if I wished for me that is the beauty of high res lossless. Starting with the pure unadulterated sound. There is no law to say that studio headphones cannot be used for casual listening. I would suggest that they are built for comfort too.

Different horses for different courses. Enjoy your new headphones and I hope you get them for a good price.

Good luck.


On 13 Nov 2019, at 15:52, Kenny <kwashingtonbox@...> wrote:

Thanks for your recommendation.


The problem I want to avoid is choosing a pair of headphones meant for audio monitoring, not casual listening.


I don't plan on doing any mixing, DJaying or instrument recordings, so I definitely want to avoid audio/studio monitoring headphones.


Casual, relaxed listening is what I want my headphones to excel in.


On 11/13/2019 9:16 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
Hello,

I didn’t keep the original post. But if the post sender is looking for the best out of Lossless. Would they not better from a studio headphone? Something that is not going to colour the audio, changing the producer’s mix. I don’t know what version of bluetooth is available with studio headphones. I have the Audio Technica ATH-M50X which are amazing and highly rated. If the list member serious about audio quality then they need to look at how headphones attempt to pump up the base or treble. Or as I suggest look for studio quality. Here’s the link for the bluetooth version of the Audio Technica ATH-M50X:

https://smile.amazon.co.uk/Audio-Technica-ATH-M50XBT-Wireless-Over-E
ar-Headphones/dp/B07HKVCVSY/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=Audio+Technica+ATH-M
50X+bluetooth&qid=1573653273&sr=8-1

Regards,

Gena

On 13 Nov 2019, at 13:50, Anders Holmberg <anders@...> wrote:

Hi!
I found a pair called Argon soul2 which sounds intresting.
I haven’t tried them yet but i will do that on monday hopefully.
/A

13 nov. 2019 kl. 12:52 skrev Brian Olesen <brian@...>:

Hi,
Sony are amonst the best, if you don't want to spend thousands!

Brian

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Emne: [all-audio] Bluetooth Headphone Recommendations for listening to Lossless Music Files?

Hello,


Getting my list ready for Black Friday.


I'm looking to purchase a good pair of 5.0 high-resolution Bluetooth headphones for getting the most out of my collection of Lossless .FLAC Jazz collection.


Don't care about price. Just want a pair of headphones that literally place me in audio heaven when I set them on my ears, and listen to Louis Armstrong, Nina Simone, Count Basie and Grover Washington Jr. through them.


Any recommendations?







Gena

Call: M0EBP
DMR ID: 2346259
Loc: IO83PS
73


Gena

Call: M0EBP
DMR ID: 2346259
Loc: IO83PS
73




Gena

Call: M0EBP
DMR ID: 2346259
Loc: IO83PS
73



Gena

Call: M0EBP
DMR ID: 2346259
Loc: IO83PS
73


Re: Bluetooth Headphone Recommendations for listening to Lossless Music Files?

Georgina Joyce
 

Hello,

I am waiting for mine to be delivered. I understand that you buy a few adapters to connect to any kind of device. You can use Apples camera connection kit to use the fly on IOS devices. I believe you can buy an USB C tail to play from USB devices. Most of these do not require drivers. I saw on eBay there were high quality 3.5 to RCA silver leads if you want to have the best.

I am struggling to rip my CD’s again in lossless. It is not easy on a Mac and on Windows is not as easy as it was in the 90’s. I don’t see the point of using a dragon fly on compressed files as the DACs in devices will do the job. But if you have a good source then it is beneficial to have a good playback system. Start with a good source then follow it through.

To answer the question what is a Dragon Fly if research has not all ready been done. It’s the quicker way <smiles>. Here are a couple of youtube reviews:

This review is for the red which is the middle one of the range:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYTcoF6VAzo

A more technical review of the top of the range:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E32-o4oonME


Regards,
On 14 Nov 2019, at 19:26, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

Ah yes I've heard of the dragonfly. I've forgotten to see if I could hear 1 when we've gone to bestbuy. Do you have 1? What is it hooked up to?

On 11/14/2019 1:39 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
Hello,


If you were to push the limits and want to hear the sound as the artists intended you wouldn’t play lossless files through a computer’s sound system. You would use a dedicated DAC and the most popular for audiophiles is the Audio Quest Dragon Fly. Great way to listen to high quality lossless files.

Regards,


On 14 Nov 2019, at 13:44, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

Ah that's true too. Meh I'm a teck geek so I get into speks. But I just was saying something similar to what you were saying because I think Gena was saying how studio headphones are pretty clinical. So I was just saying that though that maybe true and if true I'd love a pair of studio cans but how clinical is the device to be used? Like I said PC wize I like Dell audio better than HP. Dells are brighter. Meh HP is improving. But also even with Dells my 2007 Enspiron has better left center and right immaging in it's stereo panning. But meh it's bass is wimpy. There is good middle frequency infact it does sound pretty natural but it does lac that bass. Also the super Rode NT1-A like brightness is missing too. Now to be fair I don't have it's drivers installed. So who knows I'd have to downgrade it to Vista to truely hear once again what an Enspiron 530S really sounds like. As for my 2014 3847 desktop meh there's gimics Realtek uses in the drivers for that 1 I couldn't care for. But love the brightness and bass to it. The stereo can be too rediculous wide and unatral but meh that's those Realtek gimics me thinks. But oh wells. So yeah I boot up the good old trusty 530S for stereo panning mostly. Though it is mad slow. I say again I wish I had the $2900 for the MSI Trident. That thing sounds glorious.

On 11/14/2019 7:41 AM, Brian Olesen wrote:
Hi,
I think any one, who really loves music should stick to their ears rather than be blown out of their socks by the technical specifications.
We all listen to so very different sound sources and music genres, and no single set of cans do provide a universal approach to this. I mean some likes a very tight bass, where others loves very soft sounding gentle headphones.
Others again likes a screaming high pitched sound, where some feels the same sound makes them believe they've tinnitus. Grin
There for. If the headphone you're seeking really should suit your needs then you'd want to give them a listen first, and decide what color of sound you want.
They can be so darn wild on the paper specs, but it won't matter, if you simply just don't like their sound, or should we say, if your ears don't fit their specific sound profile.
For example I have a relatively cheap pair of Yamahas I truly love, and I mean really love!
I think they're just about $ 120 or so, and they sound really good to me. Then I also have a $ 500 plus pair of Bayer dynamics that well kind of sounds good, but don't knocks me off the chair, if you know what I mean.
So what does it help to have a pair of cans that can communicate with bats using ultra sound, if you don't like their low-end sound?
Smile

Best regards
Brian



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Emne: Re: [all-audio] Bluetooth Headphone Recommendations for listening to Lossless Music Files?

Ah well if we go down this rode you also have to consider your computer phone or aVR or what ever other device. Different PCs and even from the same company depending on model give you a different flavor. I suppose you will get with studio headphones or studio monitoring speakers a more honest sound but how honest is the device? For stereo spread I love my
2007 slim Enspiron 530S. But it's bass is wimpy and there's none of that real bright condencer like crispness. My 2014 3847 tower does that better but there are sound effect gimics I don't like to it's sound. Man it's another reason I wish I had $2500 for an MSI Trident. That PC is pure epicness.

On 11/13/2019 2:38 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
Hello,

OK, no problem. But realise you are not experiencing the full benefits of lossless. Headphone manufacturers tune headphones with their own equaliser settings. Studio headphones affect the sound less and represent the sound as published.

I accept your desire but as for me I like to hear the sound the artists want to present. I can add base or treble if I wished for me that is the beauty of high res lossless. Starting with the pure unadulterated sound. There is no law to say that studio headphones cannot be used for casual listening. I would suggest that they are built for comfort too.

Different horses for different courses. Enjoy your new headphones and I hope you get them for a good price.

Good luck.


On 13 Nov 2019, at 15:52, Kenny <kwashingtonbox@...> wrote:

Thanks for your recommendation.


The problem I want to avoid is choosing a pair of headphones meant for audio monitoring, not casual listening.


I don't plan on doing any mixing, DJaying or instrument recordings, so I definitely want to avoid audio/studio monitoring headphones.


Casual, relaxed listening is what I want my headphones to excel in.


On 11/13/2019 9:16 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
Hello,

I didn’t keep the original post. But if the post sender is looking for the best out of Lossless. Would they not better from a studio headphone? Something that is not going to colour the audio, changing the producer’s mix. I don’t know what version of bluetooth is available with studio headphones. I have the Audio Technica ATH-M50X which are amazing and highly rated. If the list member serious about audio quality then they need to look at how headphones attempt to pump up the base or treble. Or as I suggest look for studio quality. Here’s the link for the bluetooth version of the Audio Technica ATH-M50X:

https://smile.amazon.co.uk/Audio-Technica-ATH-M50XBT-Wireless-Over-E
ar-Headphones/dp/B07HKVCVSY/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=Audio+Technica+ATH-M
50X+bluetooth&qid=1573653273&sr=8-1

Regards,

Gena

On 13 Nov 2019, at 13:50, Anders Holmberg <anders@...> wrote:

Hi!
I found a pair called Argon soul2 which sounds intresting.
I haven’t tried them yet but i will do that on monday hopefully.
/A

13 nov. 2019 kl. 12:52 skrev Brian Olesen <brian@...>:

Hi,
Sony are amonst the best, if you don't want to spend thousands!

Brian

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Emne: [all-audio] Bluetooth Headphone Recommendations for listening to Lossless Music Files?

Hello,


Getting my list ready for Black Friday.


I'm looking to purchase a good pair of 5.0 high-resolution Bluetooth headphones for getting the most out of my collection of Lossless .FLAC Jazz collection.


Don't care about price. Just want a pair of headphones that literally place me in audio heaven when I set them on my ears, and listen to Louis Armstrong, Nina Simone, Count Basie and Grover Washington Jr. through them.


Any recommendations?







Gena

Call: M0EBP
DMR ID: 2346259
Loc: IO83PS
73


Gena

Call: M0EBP
DMR ID: 2346259
Loc: IO83PS
73





Gena

Call: M0EBP
DMR ID: 2346259
Loc: IO83PS
73




Gena

Call: M0EBP
DMR ID: 2346259
Loc: IO83PS
73

Re: Bluetooth Headphone Recommendations for listening to Lossless Music Files?

John Heath
 

May I ask: what is a dragonfly? Thanks!

-----Original Message-----
From: Hamit Campos
Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2019 2:26 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Bluetooth Headphone Recommendations for listening to Lossless Music Files?

Ah yes I've heard of the dragonfly. I've forgotten to see if I could
hear 1 when we've gone to bestbuy. Do you have 1? What is it hooked up to?

On 11/14/2019 1:39 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
Hello,


If you were to push the limits and want to hear the sound as the artists intended you wouldn’t play lossless files through a computer’s sound system. You would use a dedicated DAC and the most popular for audiophiles is the Audio Quest Dragon Fly. Great way to listen to high quality lossless files.

Regards,


On 14 Nov 2019, at 13:44, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

Ah that's true too. Meh I'm a teck geek so I get into speks. But I just was saying something similar to what you were saying because I think Gena was saying how studio headphones are pretty clinical. So I was just saying that though that maybe true and if true I'd love a pair of studio cans but how clinical is the device to be used? Like I said PC wize I like Dell audio better than HP. Dells are brighter. Meh HP is improving. But also even with Dells my 2007 Enspiron has better left center and right immaging in it's stereo panning. But meh it's bass is wimpy. There is good middle frequency infact it does sound pretty natural but it does lac that bass. Also the super Rode NT1-A like brightness is missing too. Now to be fair I don't have it's drivers installed. So who knows I'd have to downgrade it to Vista to truely hear once again what an Enspiron 530S really sounds like. As for my 2014 3847 desktop meh there's gimics Realtek uses in the drivers for that 1 I couldn't care for. But love the brightness and bass to it. The stereo can be too rediculous wide and unatral but meh that's those Realtek gimics me thinks. But oh wells. So yeah I boot up the good old trusty 530S for stereo panning mostly. Though it is mad slow. I say again I wish I had the $2900 for the MSI Trident. That thing sounds glorious.

On 11/14/2019 7:41 AM, Brian Olesen wrote:
Hi,
I think any one, who really loves music should stick to their ears rather than be blown out of their socks by the technical specifications.
We all listen to so very different sound sources and music genres, and no single set of cans do provide a universal approach to this. I mean some likes a very tight bass, where others loves very soft sounding gentle headphones.
Others again likes a screaming high pitched sound, where some feels the same sound makes them believe they've tinnitus. Grin
There for. If the headphone you're seeking really should suit your needs then you'd want to give them a listen first, and decide what color of sound you want.
They can be so darn wild on the paper specs, but it won't matter, if you simply just don't like their sound, or should we say, if your ears don't fit their specific sound profile.
For example I have a relatively cheap pair of Yamahas I truly love, and I mean really love!
I think they're just about $ 120 or so, and they sound really good to me. Then I also have a $ 500 plus pair of Bayer dynamics that well kind of sounds good, but don't knocks me off the chair, if you know what I mean.
So what does it help to have a pair of cans that can communicate with bats using ultra sound, if you don't like their low-end sound?
Smile

Best regards
Brian



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Emne: Re: [all-audio] Bluetooth Headphone Recommendations for listening to Lossless Music Files?

Ah well if we go down this rode you also have to consider your computer phone or aVR or what ever other device. Different PCs and even from the same company depending on model give you a different flavor. I suppose you will get with studio headphones or studio monitoring speakers a more honest sound but how honest is the device? For stereo spread I love my
2007 slim Enspiron 530S. But it's bass is wimpy and there's none of that real bright condencer like crispness. My 2014 3847 tower does that better but there are sound effect gimics I don't like to it's sound. Man it's another reason I wish I had $2500 for an MSI Trident. That PC is pure epicness.

On 11/13/2019 2:38 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
Hello,

OK, no problem. But realise you are not experiencing the full benefits of lossless. Headphone manufacturers tune headphones with their own equaliser settings. Studio headphones affect the sound less and represent the sound as published.

I accept your desire but as for me I like to hear the sound the artists want to present. I can add base or treble if I wished for me that is the beauty of high res lossless. Starting with the pure unadulterated sound. There is no law to say that studio headphones cannot be used for casual listening. I would suggest that they are built for comfort too.

Different horses for different courses. Enjoy your new headphones and I hope you get them for a good price.

Good luck.


On 13 Nov 2019, at 15:52, Kenny <kwashingtonbox@...> wrote:

Thanks for your recommendation.


The problem I want to avoid is choosing a pair of headphones meant for audio monitoring, not casual listening.


I don't plan on doing any mixing, DJaying or instrument recordings, so I definitely want to avoid audio/studio monitoring headphones.


Casual, relaxed listening is what I want my headphones to excel in.


On 11/13/2019 9:16 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
Hello,

I didn’t keep the original post. But if the post sender is looking for the best out of Lossless. Would they not better from a studio headphone? Something that is not going to colour the audio, changing the producer’s mix. I don’t know what version of bluetooth is available with studio headphones. I have the Audio Technica ATH-M50X which are amazing and highly rated. If the list member serious about audio quality then they need to look at how headphones attempt to pump up the base or treble. Or as I suggest look for studio quality. Here’s the link for the bluetooth version of the Audio Technica ATH-M50X:

https://smile.amazon.co.uk/Audio-Technica-ATH-M50XBT-Wireless-Over-E
ar-Headphones/dp/B07HKVCVSY/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=Audio+Technica+ATH-M
50X+bluetooth&qid=1573653273&sr=8-1

Regards,

Gena

On 13 Nov 2019, at 13:50, Anders Holmberg <anders@...> wrote:

Hi!
I found a pair called Argon soul2 which sounds intresting.
I haven’t tried them yet but i will do that on monday hopefully.
/A

13 nov. 2019 kl. 12:52 skrev Brian Olesen <brian@...>:

Hi,
Sony are amonst the best, if you don't want to spend thousands!

Brian

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Emne: [all-audio] Bluetooth Headphone Recommendations for listening to Lossless Music Files?

Hello,


Getting my list ready for Black Friday.


I'm looking to purchase a good pair of 5.0 high-resolution Bluetooth headphones for getting the most out of my collection of Lossless .FLAC Jazz collection.


Don't care about price. Just want a pair of headphones that literally place me in audio heaven when I set them on my ears, and listen to Louis Armstrong, Nina Simone, Count Basie and Grover Washington Jr. through them.


Any recommendations?







Gena

Call: M0EBP
DMR ID: 2346259
Loc: IO83PS
73


Gena

Call: M0EBP
DMR ID: 2346259
Loc: IO83PS
73





Gena

Call: M0EBP
DMR ID: 2346259
Loc: IO83PS
73



Re: Bluetooth Headphone Recommendations for listening to Lossless Music Files?

Hamit Campos
 

Ah yes I've heard of the dragonfly. I've forgotten to see if I could hear 1 when we've gone to bestbuy. Do you have 1? What is it hooked up to?

On 11/14/2019 1:39 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
Hello,


If you were to push the limits and want to hear the sound as the artists intended you wouldn’t play lossless files through a computer’s sound system. You would use a dedicated DAC and the most popular for audiophiles is the Audio Quest Dragon Fly. Great way to listen to high quality lossless files.

Regards,


On 14 Nov 2019, at 13:44, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

Ah that's true too. Meh I'm a teck geek so I get into speks. But I just was saying something similar to what you were saying because I think Gena was saying how studio headphones are pretty clinical. So I was just saying that though that maybe true and if true I'd love a pair of studio cans but how clinical is the device to be used? Like I said PC wize I like Dell audio better than HP. Dells are brighter. Meh HP is improving. But also even with Dells my 2007 Enspiron has better left center and right immaging in it's stereo panning. But meh it's bass is wimpy. There is good middle frequency infact it does sound pretty natural but it does lac that bass. Also the super Rode NT1-A like brightness is missing too. Now to be fair I don't have it's drivers installed. So who knows I'd have to downgrade it to Vista to truely hear once again what an Enspiron 530S really sounds like. As for my 2014 3847 desktop meh there's gimics Realtek uses in the drivers for that 1 I couldn't care for. But love the brightness and bass to it. The stereo can be too rediculous wide and unatral but meh that's those Realtek gimics me thinks. But oh wells. So yeah I boot up the good old trusty 530S for stereo panning mostly. Though it is mad slow. I say again I wish I had the $2900 for the MSI Trident. That thing sounds glorious.

On 11/14/2019 7:41 AM, Brian Olesen wrote:
Hi,
I think any one, who really loves music should stick to their ears rather than be blown out of their socks by the technical specifications.
We all listen to so very different sound sources and music genres, and no single set of cans do provide a universal approach to this. I mean some likes a very tight bass, where others loves very soft sounding gentle headphones.
Others again likes a screaming high pitched sound, where some feels the same sound makes them believe they've tinnitus. Grin
There for. If the headphone you're seeking really should suit your needs then you'd want to give them a listen first, and decide what color of sound you want.
They can be so darn wild on the paper specs, but it won't matter, if you simply just don't like their sound, or should we say, if your ears don't fit their specific sound profile.
For example I have a relatively cheap pair of Yamahas I truly love, and I mean really love!
I think they're just about $ 120 or so, and they sound really good to me. Then I also have a $ 500 plus pair of Bayer dynamics that well kind of sounds good, but don't knocks me off the chair, if you know what I mean.
So what does it help to have a pair of cans that can communicate with bats using ultra sound, if you don't like their low-end sound?
Smile

Best regards
Brian



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Sendt: 14. november 2019 04:29
Til: all-audio@groups.io
Emne: Re: [all-audio] Bluetooth Headphone Recommendations for listening to Lossless Music Files?

Ah well if we go down this rode you also have to consider your computer phone or aVR or what ever other device. Different PCs and even from the same company depending on model give you a different flavor. I suppose you will get with studio headphones or studio monitoring speakers a more honest sound but how honest is the device? For stereo spread I love my
2007 slim Enspiron 530S. But it's bass is wimpy and there's none of that real bright condencer like crispness. My 2014 3847 tower does that better but there are sound effect gimics I don't like to it's sound. Man it's another reason I wish I had $2500 for an MSI Trident. That PC is pure epicness.

On 11/13/2019 2:38 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
Hello,

OK, no problem. But realise you are not experiencing the full benefits of lossless. Headphone manufacturers tune headphones with their own equaliser settings. Studio headphones affect the sound less and represent the sound as published.

I accept your desire but as for me I like to hear the sound the artists want to present. I can add base or treble if I wished for me that is the beauty of high res lossless. Starting with the pure unadulterated sound. There is no law to say that studio headphones cannot be used for casual listening. I would suggest that they are built for comfort too.

Different horses for different courses. Enjoy your new headphones and I hope you get them for a good price.

Good luck.


On 13 Nov 2019, at 15:52, Kenny <kwashingtonbox@...> wrote:

Thanks for your recommendation.


The problem I want to avoid is choosing a pair of headphones meant for audio monitoring, not casual listening.


I don't plan on doing any mixing, DJaying or instrument recordings, so I definitely want to avoid audio/studio monitoring headphones.


Casual, relaxed listening is what I want my headphones to excel in.


On 11/13/2019 9:16 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
Hello,

I didn’t keep the original post. But if the post sender is looking for the best out of Lossless. Would they not better from a studio headphone? Something that is not going to colour the audio, changing the producer’s mix. I don’t know what version of bluetooth is available with studio headphones. I have the Audio Technica ATH-M50X which are amazing and highly rated. If the list member serious about audio quality then they need to look at how headphones attempt to pump up the base or treble. Or as I suggest look for studio quality. Here’s the link for the bluetooth version of the Audio Technica ATH-M50X:

https://smile.amazon.co.uk/Audio-Technica-ATH-M50XBT-Wireless-Over-E
ar-Headphones/dp/B07HKVCVSY/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=Audio+Technica+ATH-M
50X+bluetooth&qid=1573653273&sr=8-1

Regards,

Gena

On 13 Nov 2019, at 13:50, Anders Holmberg <anders@...> wrote:

Hi!
I found a pair called Argon soul2 which sounds intresting.
I haven’t tried them yet but i will do that on monday hopefully.
/A

13 nov. 2019 kl. 12:52 skrev Brian Olesen <brian@...>:

Hi,
Sony are amonst the best, if you don't want to spend thousands!

Brian

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Emne: [all-audio] Bluetooth Headphone Recommendations for listening to Lossless Music Files?

Hello,


Getting my list ready for Black Friday.


I'm looking to purchase a good pair of 5.0 high-resolution Bluetooth headphones for getting the most out of my collection of Lossless .FLAC Jazz collection.


Don't care about price. Just want a pair of headphones that literally place me in audio heaven when I set them on my ears, and listen to Louis Armstrong, Nina Simone, Count Basie and Grover Washington Jr. through them.


Any recommendations?







Gena

Call: M0EBP
DMR ID: 2346259
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Gena

Call: M0EBP
DMR ID: 2346259
Loc: IO83PS
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Gena

Call: M0EBP
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Loc: IO83PS
73


Re: Bluetooth Headphone Recommendations for listening to Lossless Music Files?

Georgina Joyce
 

Hello,


If you were to push the limits and want to hear the sound as the artists intended you wouldn’t play lossless files through a computer’s sound system. You would use a dedicated DAC and the most popular for audiophiles is the Audio Quest Dragon Fly. Great way to listen to high quality lossless files.

Regards,


On 14 Nov 2019, at 13:44, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

Ah that's true too. Meh I'm a teck geek so I get into speks. But I just was saying something similar to what you were saying because I think Gena was saying how studio headphones are pretty clinical. So I was just saying that though that maybe true and if true I'd love a pair of studio cans but how clinical is the device to be used? Like I said PC wize I like Dell audio better than HP. Dells are brighter. Meh HP is improving. But also even with Dells my 2007 Enspiron has better left center and right immaging in it's stereo panning. But meh it's bass is wimpy. There is good middle frequency infact it does sound pretty natural but it does lac that bass. Also the super Rode NT1-A like brightness is missing too. Now to be fair I don't have it's drivers installed. So who knows I'd have to downgrade it to Vista to truely hear once again what an Enspiron 530S really sounds like. As for my 2014 3847 desktop meh there's gimics Realtek uses in the drivers for that 1 I couldn't care for. But love the brightness and bass to it. The stereo can be too rediculous wide and unatral but meh that's those Realtek gimics me thinks. But oh wells. So yeah I boot up the good old trusty 530S for stereo panning mostly. Though it is mad slow. I say again I wish I had the $2900 for the MSI Trident. That thing sounds glorious.

On 11/14/2019 7:41 AM, Brian Olesen wrote:
Hi,
I think any one, who really loves music should stick to their ears rather than be blown out of their socks by the technical specifications.
We all listen to so very different sound sources and music genres, and no single set of cans do provide a universal approach to this. I mean some likes a very tight bass, where others loves very soft sounding gentle headphones.
Others again likes a screaming high pitched sound, where some feels the same sound makes them believe they've tinnitus. Grin
There for. If the headphone you're seeking really should suit your needs then you'd want to give them a listen first, and decide what color of sound you want.
They can be so darn wild on the paper specs, but it won't matter, if you simply just don't like their sound, or should we say, if your ears don't fit their specific sound profile.
For example I have a relatively cheap pair of Yamahas I truly love, and I mean really love!
I think they're just about $ 120 or so, and they sound really good to me. Then I also have a $ 500 plus pair of Bayer dynamics that well kind of sounds good, but don't knocks me off the chair, if you know what I mean.
So what does it help to have a pair of cans that can communicate with bats using ultra sound, if you don't like their low-end sound?
Smile

Best regards
Brian



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Emne: Re: [all-audio] Bluetooth Headphone Recommendations for listening to Lossless Music Files?

Ah well if we go down this rode you also have to consider your computer phone or aVR or what ever other device. Different PCs and even from the same company depending on model give you a different flavor. I suppose you will get with studio headphones or studio monitoring speakers a more honest sound but how honest is the device? For stereo spread I love my
2007 slim Enspiron 530S. But it's bass is wimpy and there's none of that real bright condencer like crispness. My 2014 3847 tower does that better but there are sound effect gimics I don't like to it's sound. Man it's another reason I wish I had $2500 for an MSI Trident. That PC is pure epicness.

On 11/13/2019 2:38 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
Hello,

OK, no problem. But realise you are not experiencing the full benefits of lossless. Headphone manufacturers tune headphones with their own equaliser settings. Studio headphones affect the sound less and represent the sound as published.

I accept your desire but as for me I like to hear the sound the artists want to present. I can add base or treble if I wished for me that is the beauty of high res lossless. Starting with the pure unadulterated sound. There is no law to say that studio headphones cannot be used for casual listening. I would suggest that they are built for comfort too.

Different horses for different courses. Enjoy your new headphones and I hope you get them for a good price.

Good luck.


On 13 Nov 2019, at 15:52, Kenny <kwashingtonbox@...> wrote:

Thanks for your recommendation.


The problem I want to avoid is choosing a pair of headphones meant for audio monitoring, not casual listening.


I don't plan on doing any mixing, DJaying or instrument recordings, so I definitely want to avoid audio/studio monitoring headphones.


Casual, relaxed listening is what I want my headphones to excel in.


On 11/13/2019 9:16 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
Hello,

I didn’t keep the original post. But if the post sender is looking for the best out of Lossless. Would they not better from a studio headphone? Something that is not going to colour the audio, changing the producer’s mix. I don’t know what version of bluetooth is available with studio headphones. I have the Audio Technica ATH-M50X which are amazing and highly rated. If the list member serious about audio quality then they need to look at how headphones attempt to pump up the base or treble. Or as I suggest look for studio quality. Here’s the link for the bluetooth version of the Audio Technica ATH-M50X:

https://smile.amazon.co.uk/Audio-Technica-ATH-M50XBT-Wireless-Over-E
ar-Headphones/dp/B07HKVCVSY/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=Audio+Technica+ATH-M
50X+bluetooth&qid=1573653273&sr=8-1

Regards,

Gena

On 13 Nov 2019, at 13:50, Anders Holmberg <anders@...> wrote:

Hi!
I found a pair called Argon soul2 which sounds intresting.
I haven’t tried them yet but i will do that on monday hopefully.
/A

13 nov. 2019 kl. 12:52 skrev Brian Olesen <brian@...>:

Hi,
Sony are amonst the best, if you don't want to spend thousands!

Brian

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Emne: [all-audio] Bluetooth Headphone Recommendations for listening to Lossless Music Files?

Hello,


Getting my list ready for Black Friday.


I'm looking to purchase a good pair of 5.0 high-resolution Bluetooth headphones for getting the most out of my collection of Lossless .FLAC Jazz collection.


Don't care about price. Just want a pair of headphones that literally place me in audio heaven when I set them on my ears, and listen to Louis Armstrong, Nina Simone, Count Basie and Grover Washington Jr. through them.


Any recommendations?







Gena

Call: M0EBP
DMR ID: 2346259
Loc: IO83PS
73


Gena

Call: M0EBP
DMR ID: 2346259
Loc: IO83PS
73







Gena

Call: M0EBP
DMR ID: 2346259
Loc: IO83PS
73