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Re: Microphones for Zoom

Hamit Campos
 

Sorry can't help much as I'm not sure how much 75 brit pounds is in dolars. Well actually let me ask Siri. Ah 91 bucks. It's an XLR mike Andy. Dude take it. I would if I could contact the guy. I don't know why 91 bucks for a $300 mike. But take it it's practically a gift. Maybe he just wants to rid himself of it for what ever reason. But yeah I said $600 for a factory electronically matched stereo pare of them. Meh something to do with faze matching and geeky audio file stuff which we could go into if you are interested. Don't wana geek out on ya if geekyness ain't your thing. But yeah dude take it it's a gift. Now remember it's only 1 so it's mono, but I'm just saying take it because the person is practically giving it away. I'd buy it if it were me. But here's something else to be carefull of. How good is this NT1-A? Do you know the person? How long has he had it? If you know it to be in good working order than yeah dude grabb it. It's my favorite of Neal's mics.

On 5/27/2020 9:53 AM, Andy via groups.io wrote:

Hi Hamit and Gena.

There is a guy over here in the UK selling a Road NT1 A microphone for £75.00

Is this the same microphone recently discussed on this list and if so, why so inexpensive?

Hamit suggested that a factory set, whatever that is, would cost him about £600.00

Also, is theNT1 a USB or  an XLR microphone?

As I'd bee wanting it for both of my Zooms, USB is no good.

Very best wishes.

Andy.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Hamit Campos" <hamitcampos@...>
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Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2020 10:29 PM
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom


Ah hahahahahaaha. So it wasn't you that mentioned the H1N in the thread about the sound markers then? Which by the way I did play arround with. Yeah like you said it adds a beep at the begining and end if you set it to do so of the file. I just don't understand how they help line up the Zoom audio with the DSLR video.

On 5/26/2020 5:23 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
Hello hamit,

Have you brought me a present and not told me? I haven’t received it yet? How exciting I haven’t seen a H1N before. LOL What a generous young man you are! LOL!

<Smiles>

Gena


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Re: Microphones for Zoom

Andy
 

Hi Hamit and Gena.

There is a guy over here in the UK selling a Road NT1 A microphone for £75.00

Is this the same microphone recently discussed on this list and if so, why so inexpensive?

Hamit suggested that a factory set, whatever that is, would cost him about £600.00

Also, is theNT1 a USB or an XLR microphone?

As I'd bee wanting it for both of my Zooms, USB is no good.

Very best wishes.

Andy.

----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2020 10:29 PM
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom


Ah hahahahahaaha. So it wasn't you that mentioned the H1N in the thread about the sound markers then? Which by the way I did play arround with. Yeah like you said it adds a beep at the begining and end if you set it to do so of the file. I just don't understand how they help line up the Zoom audio with the DSLR video.

On 5/26/2020 5:23 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
Hello hamit,

Have you brought me a present and not told me? I haven’t received it yet? How exciting I haven’t seen a H1N before. LOL What a generous young man you are! LOL!

<Smiles>

Gena


On 26 May 2020, at 21:06, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

H1N
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Re: Microphones for Zoom

Hamit Campos
 

Ah hahahahahaaha. So it wasn't you that mentioned the H1N in the thread about the sound markers then? Which by the way I did play arround with. Yeah like you said it adds a beep at the begining and end if you set it to do so of the file. I just don't understand how they help line up the Zoom audio with the DSLR video.

On 5/26/2020 5:23 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
Hello hamit,

Have you brought me a present and not told me? I haven’t received it yet? How exciting I haven’t seen a H1N before. LOL What a generous young man you are! LOL!

<Smiles>

Gena


On 26 May 2020, at 21:06, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

H1N
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Re: Microphones for Zoom

Georgina Joyce
 

Hello hamit,

Have you brought me a present and not told me? I haven’t received it yet? How exciting I haven’t seen a H1N before. LOL What a generous young man you are! LOL!

<Smiles>

Gena


On 26 May 2020, at 21:06, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

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Re: Microphones for Zoom

Hamit Campos
 

Ah cause this mic is also for mounting on a DSLR. OR like I said it's to give you the option to use it with somethign like Gena's H1N which doesn't have XLRs. But don't worry about that little cable if you don't want. Keep it handy though. Also you get a double A batery. Again for when using it with that 3.5 jack. Yeah I just meant t you could use it into the headphone jack like jack on the side of the XY H6. The main peace with the 2 barral like mics. How ever you don't have to nor do I. Just saying the option is there especially if you don't happen to have a sighted neighbor even to get the levels right. But when your wife is arround you should for best results ask her to put the nobs on the same number. Again this so that the panning is balanced.

On 5/26/2020 2:28 PM, Andy via groups.io wrote:
Hi again Hamit.

I thought that this particular microphone would meet my needs.

I still have your advice regarding twinning each XLR as one input.

Neil also explained this in his podcast.

However you said "It also comes with a
little mini XLR to headphone jack plug so you could use it with the X^Y H6 "
What do you mean by this?

The Zoom H6 has a headphone socket and I've enough XLR's to cope with this, but why this additional accessory?

Very best wishes.

Andy.




----- Original Message ----- From: "Hamit Campos" <hamitcampos@...>
To: <all-audio@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2020 4:13 PM
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom


It's an Audio-Technica. That's why the AT. It's a stereo mic so it's actually 2 XLRs that would go into the H6 or F8N in your case. Now you'd have to stereo link them like I told you on the H6 and however you stereo link on the F8N or any of the F recorders. It also comes with a little mini XLR to headphone jack plug so you could use it with the X^Y H6 peace too or on something like Gena's H1N.
On 5/26/2020 9:54 AM, Andy via groups.io wrote:
Hi Hamit.

this Road AT-8022, is it an Xlr or an USB mic.


I ask because on Accessible Youtube a guy was doing rather nice outdoor recordings in a city in America, and I've heard Neil say that he has the same mic, though I rather think he has a USB type.

If I'm correct and you can get both, then my problems are over for the AT-8022 as I can record bird calls and also indoor quire or my local band in my pub.

Also, is the NT1 an XLR or USB?

I ask because I like your setup of having 2 factory sets for my band and quire, though, I don't know how good it is for out of doors.

Very best wishes.

I simply don't have information to be confident in spending that amount of cash.


Andy.



----- Original Message ----- From: "Hamit Campos" <hamitcampos@...>
To: <all-audio@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 6:43 PM
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom


Ah then yeah depending on how much you can spend the NT1 or older and crisper NT1-A are a no go as you'd need 2 and you'd need to link them together on either zoom. I could tell you how and infact since then I'll recommend my AT-8022 since it is 1 mic with 2 modded AT-4021 capsels in it it'll show up as 2 seperate mics. So what you do is connect the left XLR into either the front left or right plug on the H6. The right 1 goes in the XLR towards the back of therecorder. So the XLR closer to the card reader if you wana use the left side. Closer to the lever for the menus if the right. Now you have to use the buttons that are numbered 1 threw 4. If you use the left side of the recorder you hold down the button 1 which is to the right of the R button. So it's the third button on the recorder. Whilst doing this press the 1 to it's right. Now you have linked them in stereo. Have someone to see? Because I recommend doing all this work so you use the XLRs and phantum power to get the most of the 8022.

On 5/12/2020 1:33 PM, Andy via groups.io wrote:
Hi all.

Getting more confused as the day goes on.

The Road NT1 is a no-no as I normally listen to sounds in sterio - it's just the way I am. Perhaps the NT1 is a fantastic Podcast microphone, but just about everything that I'm keen on recording requires a degree of width,

I'm totally not interested in recording a single bird, though I can see the attraction if making a collection of birds inone country or area.

Know, for a down chorus I'd be looking for a sterio outdoor microphone with a wide spread.

For example, here is a sample of my own International Dawn Chorus, recorded at my farm on the 3 May, using the Zoom H6 with the clip on right angle microphone.


Can you guess what is wrong with my recording?

https://www.sendspace.com/file/ox1jos

I have now purchased the newer Zoom F8n and wish a XLR sterio Microphone with a very good Dead Cat because my place is about 300 feet above the River Clyde, so is rather windy. - What do they use in Texas???

Hamit suggests that if the Nt1 is not for me, then perhaps I should look at the NT4. So I looked it up in Accessable Youtube .

It's about £600 and is a USB microphone, which I think would make it a good podcasting microphone, for a home studio computer.

So I'm at a bit of a loss at the moment and need to give it a lote more consideration.

Perhaps I can find out what I'm looking for using the link: How to Record Bird Songs and Calls - Nature Recording | Audubon, provided earlier today by Gena.



Very best wishes.

Andy.



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Original Message ----- From: "Georgina Joyce" <gena@...>
To: <all-audio@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom


Hello John,

Fare point, as Andrew had done some research and considered that a shotgun might be the solution I thought he was wanting to focus upon one bird or those birds in a small area. As I pointed out the pickup area is shown as a heart shape. The number of channels does not express the polar pattern. If Andrew wants to record a wide stage then that is an omnidirectional microphone he requires. Not a stereo unless it is omnidirectional. Of course, if andrew wants that binaural affect then again it is something else. Thus there are plenty of options for Andy and many choices and it is for him to decide what the end result is that he requires. i.e. What size stage does Andy want?

There is a youtube reviewer of microphones who dances around the microphones so you can hear the extent of the pattern.

Regards,
On 12 May 2020, at 15:43, John Gurd via groups.io <j.gurd=ntlworld.com@groups.io> wrote:

I had a look at the link. Most bird watchers want to focus-record an individual bird song sometimes out of many background songs. A dawn Chorus is all the birds in the area - not just a single bird. As Hamit suggests a stereo mike might be more likely to do this successfully.

PS: last time I heard Andy was living in rural Scotland, so maybe not a big garden, but a lot of habitat. I know birds are territorial, but they tend to sing from adjoining gardens to, and I'm sure Andy isn't so possessive he only wants the birds singing in just his garden alone. You'll find a dawn chorus is just as big weather heard from a small garden or an estate for that very reason. 😉

John

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Georgina Joyce
Sent: 12 May 2020 14:41
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom

Hello John,

They don’t cut out sharply it’s usually shown as a heart shape tapering down to the point. Obviously, Andy has done some research and his post caused me to do so as I use a shotgun in the booth. Andy did not want ambient sound. He wanted to record bird song from his garden. Unless he lives in a huge estate it is not going to be that wide of a field. I found that bird watchers use a shotgun mic although this is with a camera. Even professional sound recordist uses a shotgun. See this:

https://www.audubon.org/news/a-beginners-guide-recording-bird-vocalizations

Regards,


On 12 May 2020, at 14:20, John Gurd via groups.io <j.gurd=ntlworld.com@groups.io> wrote:

From what I've read a shot-gun mike is so directional that even being off-target a little will result in poor quality sound. I doubt it would be the best for ambient recordings.

John


-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Georgina Joyce
Sent: 11 May 2020 14:16
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom

Hello Andy,

It is down to you and how much you want to spend. I follow the Booth Junky who uses a shotgun microphone a lot. He uses the Sennheiser MKH-416. I haven’t been able to afford one of those but I do have the MKH-166 which I purchased used from eBay. I absolutely love it and is my mic of choice. I think that would really do the job.

Regards,




On 11 May 2020, at 13:25, Andy via groups.io <meikle.aiden=btinternet.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hi all.

I've got both the Zoom H6 and the F8n, but the only microphones I have are the 2 clip on ones that I origionally got with the H6.

I'm wanting to record the Dawn Chorus in my garden but don't have a clue as to which microphone , or best type, to buy and where to buy it.

I think I need a directional Shot-gun microphone with a large Dead-Cat windscreen, and also about 3 meters of cable with the appropriate XLR plugs.

Can anyone please give me some advice.

Also, My Zoom H6 is playing up. I think I've changed an inportant option within the menues. I tried recording bird calls and the recording was extremely poor. Is there perhaps a function within the H6 that Re-sets the device back to factory settings.

I hope you are all okay and enjoying this period of noise pelution silence to get very nice recordings. If so I'd love to here some samples.

Very best wishes and please take care of yourselves.

Andy Logue from Scotland.






Gena

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Re: Microphones for Zoom

Andy
 

Hi again Hamit.

I thought that this particular microphone would meet my needs.

I still have your advice regarding twinning each XLR as one input.

Neil also explained this in his podcast.

However you said "It also comes with a
little mini XLR to headphone jack plug so you could use it with the X^Y H6 "
What do you mean by this?

The Zoom H6 has a headphone socket and I've enough XLR's to cope with this, but why this additional accessory?

Very best wishes.

Andy.




----- Original Message -----
From: "Hamit Campos" <hamitcampos@...>
To: <all-audio@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2020 4:13 PM
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom


It's an Audio-Technica. That's why the AT. It's a stereo mic so it's actually 2 XLRs that would go into the H6 or F8N in your case. Now you'd have to stereo link them like I told you on the H6 and however you stereo link on the F8N or any of the F recorders. It also comes with a little mini XLR to headphone jack plug so you could use it with the X^Y H6 peace too or on something like Gena's H1N.
On 5/26/2020 9:54 AM, Andy via groups.io wrote:
Hi Hamit.

this Road AT-8022, is it an Xlr or an USB mic.


I ask because on Accessible Youtube a guy was doing rather nice outdoor recordings in a city in America, and I've heard Neil say that he has the same mic, though I rather think he has a USB type.

If I'm correct and you can get both, then my problems are over for the AT-8022 as I can record bird calls and also indoor quire or my local band in my pub.

Also, is the NT1 an XLR or USB?

I ask because I like your setup of having 2 factory sets for my band and quire, though, I don't know how good it is for out of doors.

Very best wishes.

I simply don't have information to be confident in spending that amount of cash.


Andy.



----- Original Message ----- From: "Hamit Campos" <hamitcampos@...>
To: <all-audio@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 6:43 PM
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom


Ah then yeah depending on how much you can spend the NT1 or older and crisper NT1-A are a no go as you'd need 2 and you'd need to link them together on either zoom. I could tell you how and infact since then I'll recommend my AT-8022 since it is 1 mic with 2 modded AT-4021 capsels in it it'll show up as 2 seperate mics. So what you do is connect the left XLR into either the front left or right plug on the H6. The right 1 goes in the XLR towards the back of therecorder. So the XLR closer to the card reader if you wana use the left side. Closer to the lever for the menus if the right. Now you have to use the buttons that are numbered 1 threw 4. If you use the left side of the recorder you hold down the button 1 which is to the right of the R button. So it's the third button on the recorder. Whilst doing this press the 1 to it's right. Now you have linked them in stereo. Have someone to see? Because I recommend doing all this work so you use the XLRs and phantum power to get the most of the 8022.

On 5/12/2020 1:33 PM, Andy via groups.io wrote:
Hi all.

Getting more confused as the day goes on.

The Road NT1 is a no-no as I normally listen to sounds in sterio - it's just the way I am. Perhaps the NT1 is a fantastic Podcast microphone, but just about everything that I'm keen on recording requires a degree of width,

I'm totally not interested in recording a single bird, though I can see the attraction if making a collection of birds inone country or area.

Know, for a down chorus I'd be looking for a sterio outdoor microphone with a wide spread.

For example, here is a sample of my own International Dawn Chorus, recorded at my farm on the 3 May, using the Zoom H6 with the clip on right angle microphone.


Can you guess what is wrong with my recording?

https://www.sendspace.com/file/ox1jos

I have now purchased the newer Zoom F8n and wish a XLR sterio Microphone with a very good Dead Cat because my place is about 300 feet above the River Clyde, so is rather windy. - What do they use in Texas???

Hamit suggests that if the Nt1 is not for me, then perhaps I should look at the NT4. So I looked it up in Accessable Youtube .

It's about £600 and is a USB microphone, which I think would make it a good podcasting microphone, for a home studio computer.

So I'm at a bit of a loss at the moment and need to give it a lote more consideration.

Perhaps I can find out what I'm looking for using the link: How to Record Bird Songs and Calls - Nature Recording | Audubon, provided earlier today by Gena.



Very best wishes.

Andy.



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Original Message ----- From: "Georgina Joyce" <gena@...>
To: <all-audio@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom


Hello John,

Fare point, as Andrew had done some research and considered that a shotgun might be the solution I thought he was wanting to focus upon one bird or those birds in a small area. As I pointed out the pickup area is shown as a heart shape. The number of channels does not express the polar pattern. If Andrew wants to record a wide stage then that is an omnidirectional microphone he requires. Not a stereo unless it is omnidirectional. Of course, if andrew wants that binaural affect then again it is something else. Thus there are plenty of options for Andy and many choices and it is for him to decide what the end result is that he requires. i.e. What size stage does Andy want?

There is a youtube reviewer of microphones who dances around the microphones so you can hear the extent of the pattern.

Regards,
On 12 May 2020, at 15:43, John Gurd via groups.io <j.gurd=ntlworld.com@groups.io> wrote:

I had a look at the link. Most bird watchers want to focus-record an individual bird song sometimes out of many background songs. A dawn Chorus is all the birds in the area - not just a single bird. As Hamit suggests a stereo mike might be more likely to do this successfully.

PS: last time I heard Andy was living in rural Scotland, so maybe not a big garden, but a lot of habitat. I know birds are territorial, but they tend to sing from adjoining gardens to, and I'm sure Andy isn't so possessive he only wants the birds singing in just his garden alone. You'll find a dawn chorus is just as big weather heard from a small garden or an estate for that very reason. 😉

John

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Georgina Joyce
Sent: 12 May 2020 14:41
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom

Hello John,

They don’t cut out sharply it’s usually shown as a heart shape tapering down to the point. Obviously, Andy has done some research and his post caused me to do so as I use a shotgun in the booth. Andy did not want ambient sound. He wanted to record bird song from his garden. Unless he lives in a huge estate it is not going to be that wide of a field. I found that bird watchers use a shotgun mic although this is with a camera. Even professional sound recordist uses a shotgun. See this:

https://www.audubon.org/news/a-beginners-guide-recording-bird-vocalizations

Regards,


On 12 May 2020, at 14:20, John Gurd via groups.io <j.gurd=ntlworld.com@groups.io> wrote:

From what I've read a shot-gun mike is so directional that even being off-target a little will result in poor quality sound. I doubt it would be the best for ambient recordings.

John


-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Georgina Joyce
Sent: 11 May 2020 14:16
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom

Hello Andy,

It is down to you and how much you want to spend. I follow the Booth Junky who uses a shotgun microphone a lot. He uses the Sennheiser MKH-416. I haven’t been able to afford one of those but I do have the MKH-166 which I purchased used from eBay. I absolutely love it and is my mic of choice. I think that would really do the job.

Regards,




On 11 May 2020, at 13:25, Andy via groups.io <meikle.aiden=btinternet.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hi all.

I've got both the Zoom H6 and the F8n, but the only microphones I have are the 2 clip on ones that I origionally got with the H6.

I'm wanting to record the Dawn Chorus in my garden but don't have a clue as to which microphone , or best type, to buy and where to buy it.

I think I need a directional Shot-gun microphone with a large Dead-Cat windscreen, and also about 3 meters of cable with the appropriate XLR plugs.

Can anyone please give me some advice.

Also, My Zoom H6 is playing up. I think I've changed an inportant option within the menues. I tried recording bird calls and the recording was extremely poor. Is there perhaps a function within the H6 that Re-sets the device back to factory settings.

I hope you are all okay and enjoying this period of noise pelution silence to get very nice recordings. If so I'd love to here some samples.

Very best wishes and please take care of yourselves.

Andy Logue from Scotland.






Gena

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DMR ID: 2346259
Loc: IO83PS
73







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Re: Microphones for Zoom

Hamit Campos
 

It's an Audio-Technica. That's why the AT. It's a stereo mic so it's actually 2 XLRs that would go into the H6 or F8N in your case. Now you'd have to stereo link them like I told you on the H6 and however you stereo link on the F8N or any of the F recorders. It also comes with a little mini XLR to headphone jack plug so you could use it with the X^Y H6 peace too or on something like Gena's H1N.

On 5/26/2020 9:54 AM, Andy via groups.io wrote:
       Hi Hamit.

this Road  AT-8022,  is it an Xlr or  an USB mic.


I ask because on Accessible Youtube  a guy was doing rather nice outdoor recordings in a city in America, and I've heard Neil say that he has the same mic, though I rather think he has a USB type.

If I'm correct and you can get both, then my problems are over for the AT-8022  as I can record bird calls and also indoor quire or my local band in my pub.

Also, is the NT1 an XLR or USB?

I ask because I like your setup of having 2 factory sets for my band and quire, though, I don't know how good it is for out of doors.

Very best wishes.

I simply don't have information to be confident in spending that amount of cash.


Andy.



----- Original Message ----- From: "Hamit Campos" <hamitcampos@...>
To: <all-audio@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 6:43 PM
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom


Ah then yeah depending on how much you can spend the NT1 or older and crisper NT1-A are a no go as you'd need 2 and you'd need to link them together on either zoom. I could tell you how and infact since then I'll recommend my AT-8022 since it is 1 mic with 2 modded AT-4021 capsels in it it'll show up as 2 seperate mics. So what you do is connect the left XLR into either the front left or right plug on the H6. The right 1 goes in the XLR towards the back of therecorder. So the XLR closer to the card reader if you wana use the left side. Closer to the lever for the menus if the right. Now you have to use the buttons that are numbered 1 threw 4. If you use the left side of the recorder you hold down the button 1 which is to the right of the R button. So it's the third button on the recorder. Whilst doing this press the 1 to it's right. Now you have linked them in stereo. Have someone to see? Because I recommend doing all this work so you use the XLRs and phantum power to get the most of the 8022.

On 5/12/2020 1:33 PM, Andy via groups.io wrote:
Hi all.

Getting more confused as the day goes on.

The Road NT1 is a no-no as I normally listen to sounds in sterio - it's just the way I am. Perhaps the NT1 is a fantastic Podcast microphone, but just about everything that I'm keen on recording requires a degree of width,

I'm totally not interested in recording a single bird, though I can see the attraction if making a collection of birds inone country or area.

Know, for a down chorus I'd be looking for a sterio outdoor microphone with a wide spread.

For example, here is a sample of my own International Dawn Chorus, recorded at my farm on the 3 May, using the Zoom H6 with the clip on right angle microphone.


Can you guess what is wrong with my recording?

https://www.sendspace.com/file/ox1jos

I have now purchased the newer Zoom F8n and wish a XLR sterio Microphone with a very good Dead Cat because my place is about 300 feet above the River Clyde, so is rather windy. - What do they use in Texas???

Hamit suggests that if the Nt1 is not for me, then perhaps I should look at the NT4. So I looked it up in Accessable Youtube .

It's about £600 and is a USB microphone, which I think would make it a good podcasting microphone, for a home studio computer.

So I'm at a bit of a loss at the moment and need to give it a lote more consideration.

Perhaps I can find out what I'm looking for using the link: How to Record Bird Songs and Calls - Nature Recording | Audubon, provided earlier today by Gena.



Very best wishes.

Andy.



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Original Message ----- From: "Georgina Joyce" <gena@...>
To: <all-audio@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom


Hello John,

Fare point, as Andrew had done some research and considered that a shotgun might be the solution I thought he was wanting to focus upon one bird or those birds in a small area. As I pointed out the pickup area is shown as a heart shape. The number of channels does not express the polar pattern. If Andrew wants to record a wide stage then that is an omnidirectional microphone he requires. Not a stereo unless it is omnidirectional. Of course, if andrew wants that binaural affect then again it is something else. Thus there are plenty of options for Andy and many choices and it is for him to decide what the end result is that he requires. i.e. What size stage does Andy want?

There is a youtube reviewer of microphones who dances around the microphones so you can hear the extent of the pattern.

Regards,
On 12 May 2020, at 15:43, John Gurd via groups.io <j.gurd=ntlworld.com@groups.io> wrote:

I had a look at the link. Most bird watchers want to focus-record an individual bird song sometimes out of many background songs. A dawn Chorus is all the birds in the area - not just a single bird. As Hamit suggests a stereo mike might be more likely to do this successfully.

PS: last time I heard Andy was living in rural Scotland, so maybe not a big garden, but a lot of habitat. I know birds are territorial, but they tend to sing from adjoining gardens to, and I'm sure Andy isn't so possessive he only wants the birds singing in just his garden alone. You'll find a dawn chorus is just as big weather heard from a small garden or an estate for that very reason. 😉

John

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Georgina Joyce
Sent: 12 May 2020 14:41
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom

Hello John,

They don’t cut out sharply it’s usually shown as a heart shape tapering down to the point. Obviously, Andy has done some research and his post caused me to do so as I use a shotgun in the booth. Andy did not want ambient sound. He wanted to record bird song from his garden. Unless he lives in a huge estate it is not going to be that wide of a field. I found that bird watchers use a shotgun mic although this is with a camera. Even professional sound recordist uses a shotgun. See this:

https://www.audubon.org/news/a-beginners-guide-recording-bird-vocalizations

Regards,


On 12 May 2020, at 14:20, John Gurd via groups.io <j.gurd=ntlworld.com@groups.io> wrote:

From what I've read a shot-gun mike is so directional that even being off-target a little will result in poor quality sound. I doubt it would be the best for ambient recordings.

John


-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Georgina Joyce
Sent: 11 May 2020 14:16
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom

Hello Andy,

It is down to you and how much you want to spend. I follow the Booth Junky who uses a shotgun microphone a lot. He uses the Sennheiser MKH-416. I haven’t been able to afford one of those but I do have the MKH-166 which I purchased used from eBay. I absolutely love it and is my mic of choice. I think that would really do the job.

Regards,




On 11 May 2020, at 13:25, Andy via groups.io <meikle.aiden=btinternet.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hi all.

I've got both the Zoom H6 and the F8n, but the only microphones I have are the 2 clip on ones that I origionally got with the H6.

I'm wanting to record the Dawn Chorus in my garden but don't have a clue as to which microphone , or best type, to buy and where to buy it.

I think I need a directional Shot-gun microphone with a large Dead-Cat windscreen, and also about 3 meters of cable with the appropriate XLR plugs.

Can anyone please give me some advice.

Also, My Zoom H6 is playing up. I think I've changed an inportant option within the menues. I tried recording bird calls and the recording was extremely poor. Is there perhaps a function within the H6 that Re-sets the device back to factory settings.

I hope you are all okay and enjoying this period of noise pelution silence to get very nice recordings. If so I'd love to here some samples.

Very best wishes and please take care of yourselves.

Andy Logue from Scotland.






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Re: Microphones for Zoom

Andy
 

Hi Hamit.

this Road AT-8022, is it an Xlr or an USB mic.


I ask because on Accessible Youtube a guy was doing rather nice outdoor recordings in a city in America, and I've heard Neil say that he has the same mic, though I rather think he has a USB type.

If I'm correct and you can get both, then my problems are over for the AT-8022 as I can record bird calls and also indoor quire or my local band in my pub.

Also, is the NT1 an XLR or USB?

I ask because I like your setup of having 2 factory sets for my band and quire, though, I don't know how good it is for out of doors.

Very best wishes.

I simply don't have information to be confident in spending that amount of cash.


Andy.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Hamit Campos" <hamitcampos@...>
To: <all-audio@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 6:43 PM
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom


Ah then yeah depending on how much you can spend the NT1 or older and crisper NT1-A are a no go as you'd need 2 and you'd need to link them together on either zoom. I could tell you how and infact since then I'll recommend my AT-8022 since it is 1 mic with 2 modded AT-4021 capsels in it it'll show up as 2 seperate mics. So what you do is connect the left XLR into either the front left or right plug on the H6. The right 1 goes in the XLR towards the back of therecorder. So the XLR closer to the card reader if you wana use the left side. Closer to the lever for the menus if the right. Now you have to use the buttons that are numbered 1 threw 4. If you use the left side of the recorder you hold down the button 1 which is to the right of the R button. So it's the third button on the recorder. Whilst doing this press the 1 to it's right. Now you have linked them in stereo. Have someone to see? Because I recommend doing all this work so you use the XLRs and phantum power to get the most of the 8022.

On 5/12/2020 1:33 PM, Andy via groups.io wrote:
Hi all.

Getting more confused as the day goes on.

The Road NT1 is a no-no as I normally listen to sounds in sterio - it's just the way I am. Perhaps the NT1 is a fantastic Podcast microphone, but just about everything that I'm keen on recording requires a degree of width,

I'm totally not interested in recording a single bird, though I can see the attraction if making a collection of birds inone country or area.

Know, for a down chorus I'd be looking for a sterio outdoor microphone with a wide spread.

For example, here is a sample of my own International Dawn Chorus, recorded at my farm on the 3 May, using the Zoom H6 with the clip on right angle microphone.


Can you guess what is wrong with my recording?

https://www.sendspace.com/file/ox1jos

I have now purchased the newer Zoom F8n and wish a XLR sterio Microphone with a very good Dead Cat because my place is about 300 feet above the River Clyde, so is rather windy. - What do they use in Texas???

Hamit suggests that if the Nt1 is not for me, then perhaps I should look at the NT4. So I looked it up in Accessable Youtube .

It's about £600 and is a USB microphone, which I think would make it a good podcasting microphone, for a home studio computer.

So I'm at a bit of a loss at the moment and need to give it a lote more consideration.

Perhaps I can find out what I'm looking for using the link: How to Record Bird Songs and Calls - Nature Recording | Audubon, provided earlier today by Gena.



Very best wishes.

Andy.



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Original Message ----- From: "Georgina Joyce" <gena@...>
To: <all-audio@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom


Hello John,

Fare point, as Andrew had done some research and considered that a shotgun might be the solution I thought he was wanting to focus upon one bird or those birds in a small area. As I pointed out the pickup area is shown as a heart shape. The number of channels does not express the polar pattern. If Andrew wants to record a wide stage then that is an omnidirectional microphone he requires. Not a stereo unless it is omnidirectional. Of course, if andrew wants that binaural affect then again it is something else. Thus there are plenty of options for Andy and many choices and it is for him to decide what the end result is that he requires. i.e. What size stage does Andy want?

There is a youtube reviewer of microphones who dances around the microphones so you can hear the extent of the pattern.

Regards,
On 12 May 2020, at 15:43, John Gurd via groups.io <j.gurd=ntlworld.com@groups.io> wrote:

I had a look at the link. Most bird watchers want to focus-record an individual bird song sometimes out of many background songs. A dawn Chorus is all the birds in the area - not just a single bird. As Hamit suggests a stereo mike might be more likely to do this successfully.

PS: last time I heard Andy was living in rural Scotland, so maybe not a big garden, but a lot of habitat. I know birds are territorial, but they tend to sing from adjoining gardens to, and I'm sure Andy isn't so possessive he only wants the birds singing in just his garden alone. You'll find a dawn chorus is just as big weather heard from a small garden or an estate for that very reason. 😉

John

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Georgina Joyce
Sent: 12 May 2020 14:41
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom

Hello John,

They don’t cut out sharply it’s usually shown as a heart shape tapering down to the point. Obviously, Andy has done some research and his post caused me to do so as I use a shotgun in the booth. Andy did not want ambient sound. He wanted to record bird song from his garden. Unless he lives in a huge estate it is not going to be that wide of a field. I found that bird watchers use a shotgun mic although this is with a camera. Even professional sound recordist uses a shotgun. See this:

https://www.audubon.org/news/a-beginners-guide-recording-bird-vocalizations

Regards,


On 12 May 2020, at 14:20, John Gurd via groups.io <j.gurd=ntlworld.com@groups.io> wrote:

From what I've read a shot-gun mike is so directional that even being off-target a little will result in poor quality sound. I doubt it would be the best for ambient recordings.

John


-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Georgina Joyce
Sent: 11 May 2020 14:16
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom

Hello Andy,

It is down to you and how much you want to spend. I follow the Booth Junky who uses a shotgun microphone a lot. He uses the Sennheiser MKH-416. I haven’t been able to afford one of those but I do have the MKH-166 which I purchased used from eBay. I absolutely love it and is my mic of choice. I think that would really do the job.

Regards,




On 11 May 2020, at 13:25, Andy via groups.io <meikle.aiden=btinternet.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hi all.

I've got both the Zoom H6 and the F8n, but the only microphones I have are the 2 clip on ones that I origionally got with the H6.

I'm wanting to record the Dawn Chorus in my garden but don't have a clue as to which microphone , or best type, to buy and where to buy it.

I think I need a directional Shot-gun microphone with a large Dead-Cat windscreen, and also about 3 meters of cable with the appropriate XLR plugs.

Can anyone please give me some advice.

Also, My Zoom H6 is playing up. I think I've changed an inportant option within the menues. I tried recording bird calls and the recording was extremely poor. Is there perhaps a function within the H6 that Re-sets the device back to factory settings.

I hope you are all okay and enjoying this period of noise pelution silence to get very nice recordings. If so I'd love to here some samples.

Very best wishes and please take care of yourselves.

Andy Logue from Scotland.






Gena

Call: M0EBP
DMR ID: 2346259
Loc: IO83PS
73







Gena

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Re: Program to play and extract audio and video

Georgina Joyce
 

Hello John,

I understood that Reaper can do some work with video but viewing this video it is limited.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_zRGkO9-HQ

But as far as quality maintenance is concerned you are unlikely to do it. Because the way in which audio files are assembled. They have to be encoded to an editable format typically .wav which you can chop and cage as you wish. Then it has to be re-encoded.
Each of these processes loose quality. A compressed file is with parts of the audio removed to make the file smaller. No editing is going to be able to put back that was taken away by the producer.

Regards,

On 25 May 2020, at 20:15, JOHN RIEHL via groups.io <REALMAN02=VERIZON.NET@groups.io> wrote:

Hi. I want to play downloaded recordings of audio and video and extract and
save portions of the files, preserving both the sound and the picture.

What's the best tool/tools to do this?

Thanks. John







Gena

Call: M0EBP
DMR ID: 2346259
Loc: IO83PS
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program to play and extract audio and video

JOHN RIEHL
 

Hi. I want to play downloaded recordings of audio and video and extract and
save portions of the files, preserving both the sound and the picture.



What's the best tool/tools to do this?



Thanks. John


Program to play and extract audio and video

JOHN RIEHL
 

Hi. I want to play downloaded recordings of audio and video and extract and
save portions of the files, preserving both the sound and the picture.

What's the best tool/tools to do this?

Thanks. John


Re: Zoom marker function in firmware 2.30

Hamit Campos
 

Yeah they could. As they did with the F recorders. Now I don't know how up to date Andy's F8N is because actually it will beep. He could let us know if they get incoded to the file. I could try Neal but we'll see as he's not been answering dirrect email for a wile. I don't have Jonathan's other wize he's someone else to ask about the F6 to get an idea as to what they do. I'll test it out for myself first and see. But yes I usually congratulate them on takeing steps towards accessibility than suggest stuff. I even let them know that they are almost there. They are but for some instances where Olympus was before the DS recorders that talked. Recorders pryor to the first 3 DS 1s that spoke already did all the beeps and things. Don't know if they did the little music when you boot up or shut down. Which I've told I think that time it was Sam about.

On 5/21/2020 5:13 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
Hello Hamit,

You will have to bend John’s ear. They could easily put bleeps in for us as they have done it for camera users.

Regards,


On 21 May 2020, at 21:22, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

Ah mad annoying. Is there a toen for pausing though? But yeah that's going to be something to consider then. Oh well. At least it's something. Not what I'd thought it was but oh well.

On 5/21/2020 4:19 PM, Aidan wrote:
Well, yes they actually appear in the file. Even if pre record is
turned off, as soon as the sound marker is turned on, then you get
them in the file. I tested that by not having headphones plugged in,
then press record on h1n, I heard nothing but when stopt a few seconds
later and played I can here them loud and clear also just before you
press stop they also appear.

On 5/21/20, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:
Ah interesting that doesn't add up. But I guess again as you said maybe
they are in the file for lining up with the video. So do you get them in
the file even if you don't have pre record on? From what you're
suggesting I guess perhaps but let me know. But yeah that is odd. Sounds
like it's actually incoding them into the file and not just making
beeping sounds like the Olympus recorders. I don't know if the F 1s do
what you're describing. Hope not. Well we'll see I guess when I first
get the thing to write to the card again. But yes I'll ask Abby to turn
it on.

On 5/21/2020 3:53 PM, Aidan wrote:
It seems to behave the same as on the h1n, wich I do have, and there
its much easyer to turn them on/off, but I don't like the fact that
they appear in the file. Yes, its fru the headphones only, but when
playback the file the beeps are in there. So you have to cut them out.

On 5/21/20, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:
Ah you found it Gena. So I was right then you have to set them then.
Where was it? I'll see if Abby can help me turn them on. Now you said
something about it's all over your recordings. Does it come over the
speaker as well then? Because again compairing with the F recorders on
those you get it in the headphone jack. Only over the headphones as I've
been lead to understand.

On 5/21/2020 3:37 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
Hello All,

I can confirm that beeps do sound on record and stop with the 2.30
firmware installed, while wearing headphones.

After installing the firmware as Hamit suggested it is in the Recording
menu. The bottom of the list is Sound markers. When you enter that menu
there are strange options which didn’t make any sense to me initially.
Then I found in the mode menu option there are 3 options. Off which is
the
default. Then Record and the bottom option Recorde and stop. They are
quite long loud beeps by default. But the menu has configurable
options.

But is it useful to us? The stop only works when stopping a recording
not
playback. As its function is to synchronise filming. The recording
starts
with the loud bleep. So all recordings will need editing. So you can
make
up your mind if it is of value to you.

Regards,


Gena

Call: M0EBP
DMR ID: 2346259
Loc: IO83PS
73



Gena

Call: M0EBP
DMR ID: 2346259
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73



Re: Zoom marker function in firmware 2.30

Hamit Campos
 

Ah okay. Wow yeah then it's coded right into the file then. That could be mad annoying as I said before.

On 5/21/2020 5:10 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
Hello Hamit,

I should imagine that pre record is off. I have not even looked at that setting, so it is at its default. setting.

Regards,


On 21 May 2020, at 20:59, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

Ah interesting that doesn't add up. But I guess again as you said maybe they are in the file for lining up with the video. So do you get them in the file even if you don't have pre record on? From what you're suggesting I guess perhaps but let me know. But yeah that is odd. Sounds like it's actually incoding them into the file and not just making beeping sounds like the Olympus recorders. I don't know if the F 1s do what you're describing. Hope not. Well we'll see I guess when I first get the thing to write to the card again. But yes I'll ask Abby to turn it on.

On 5/21/2020 3:53 PM, Aidan wrote:
It seems to behave the same as on the h1n, wich I do have, and there
its much easyer to turn them on/off, but I don't like the fact that
they appear in the file. Yes, its fru the headphones only, but when
playback the file the beeps are in there. So you have to cut them out.

On 5/21/20, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:
Ah you found it Gena. So I was right then you have to set them then.
Where was it? I'll see if Abby can help me turn them on. Now you said
something about it's all over your recordings. Does it come over the
speaker as well then? Because again compairing with the F recorders on
those you get it in the headphone jack. Only over the headphones as I've
been lead to understand.

On 5/21/2020 3:37 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
Hello All,

I can confirm that beeps do sound on record and stop with the 2.30
firmware installed, while wearing headphones.

After installing the firmware as Hamit suggested it is in the Recording
menu. The bottom of the list is Sound markers. When you enter that menu
there are strange options which didn’t make any sense to me initially.
Then I found in the mode menu option there are 3 options. Off which is the
default. Then Record and the bottom option Recorde and stop. They are
quite long loud beeps by default. But the menu has configurable options.

But is it useful to us? The stop only works when stopping a recording not
playback. As its function is to synchronise filming. The recording starts
with the loud bleep. So all recordings will need editing. So you can make
up your mind if it is of value to you.

Regards,


Gena

Call: M0EBP
DMR ID: 2346259
Loc: IO83PS
73



Gena

Call: M0EBP
DMR ID: 2346259
Loc: IO83PS
73



Re: Zoom marker function in firmware 2.30

Georgina Joyce
 

Hello Hamit,

You will have to bend John’s ear. They could easily put bleeps in for us as they have done it for camera users.

Regards,


On 21 May 2020, at 21:22, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

Ah mad annoying. Is there a toen for pausing though? But yeah that's going to be something to consider then. Oh well. At least it's something. Not what I'd thought it was but oh well.

On 5/21/2020 4:19 PM, Aidan wrote:
Well, yes they actually appear in the file. Even if pre record is
turned off, as soon as the sound marker is turned on, then you get
them in the file. I tested that by not having headphones plugged in,
then press record on h1n, I heard nothing but when stopt a few seconds
later and played I can here them loud and clear also just before you
press stop they also appear.

On 5/21/20, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:
Ah interesting that doesn't add up. But I guess again as you said maybe
they are in the file for lining up with the video. So do you get them in
the file even if you don't have pre record on? From what you're
suggesting I guess perhaps but let me know. But yeah that is odd. Sounds
like it's actually incoding them into the file and not just making
beeping sounds like the Olympus recorders. I don't know if the F 1s do
what you're describing. Hope not. Well we'll see I guess when I first
get the thing to write to the card again. But yes I'll ask Abby to turn
it on.

On 5/21/2020 3:53 PM, Aidan wrote:
It seems to behave the same as on the h1n, wich I do have, and there
its much easyer to turn them on/off, but I don't like the fact that
they appear in the file. Yes, its fru the headphones only, but when
playback the file the beeps are in there. So you have to cut them out.

On 5/21/20, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:
Ah you found it Gena. So I was right then you have to set them then.
Where was it? I'll see if Abby can help me turn them on. Now you said
something about it's all over your recordings. Does it come over the
speaker as well then? Because again compairing with the F recorders on
those you get it in the headphone jack. Only over the headphones as I've
been lead to understand.

On 5/21/2020 3:37 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
Hello All,

I can confirm that beeps do sound on record and stop with the 2.30
firmware installed, while wearing headphones.

After installing the firmware as Hamit suggested it is in the Recording
menu. The bottom of the list is Sound markers. When you enter that menu
there are strange options which didn’t make any sense to me initially.
Then I found in the mode menu option there are 3 options. Off which is
the
default. Then Record and the bottom option Recorde and stop. They are
quite long loud beeps by default. But the menu has configurable
options.

But is it useful to us? The stop only works when stopping a recording
not
playback. As its function is to synchronise filming. The recording
starts
with the loud bleep. So all recordings will need editing. So you can
make
up your mind if it is of value to you.

Regards,


Gena

Call: M0EBP
DMR ID: 2346259
Loc: IO83PS
73





Gena

Call: M0EBP
DMR ID: 2346259
Loc: IO83PS
73


Re: Zoom marker function in firmware 2.30

Georgina Joyce
 

Hello Hamit,

I should imagine that pre record is off. I have not even looked at that setting, so it is at its default. setting.

Regards,


On 21 May 2020, at 20:59, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

Ah interesting that doesn't add up. But I guess again as you said maybe they are in the file for lining up with the video. So do you get them in the file even if you don't have pre record on? From what you're suggesting I guess perhaps but let me know. But yeah that is odd. Sounds like it's actually incoding them into the file and not just making beeping sounds like the Olympus recorders. I don't know if the F 1s do what you're describing. Hope not. Well we'll see I guess when I first get the thing to write to the card again. But yes I'll ask Abby to turn it on.

On 5/21/2020 3:53 PM, Aidan wrote:
It seems to behave the same as on the h1n, wich I do have, and there
its much easyer to turn them on/off, but I don't like the fact that
they appear in the file. Yes, its fru the headphones only, but when
playback the file the beeps are in there. So you have to cut them out.

On 5/21/20, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:
Ah you found it Gena. So I was right then you have to set them then.
Where was it? I'll see if Abby can help me turn them on. Now you said
something about it's all over your recordings. Does it come over the
speaker as well then? Because again compairing with the F recorders on
those you get it in the headphone jack. Only over the headphones as I've
been lead to understand.

On 5/21/2020 3:37 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
Hello All,

I can confirm that beeps do sound on record and stop with the 2.30
firmware installed, while wearing headphones.

After installing the firmware as Hamit suggested it is in the Recording
menu. The bottom of the list is Sound markers. When you enter that menu
there are strange options which didn’t make any sense to me initially.
Then I found in the mode menu option there are 3 options. Off which is the
default. Then Record and the bottom option Recorde and stop. They are
quite long loud beeps by default. But the menu has configurable options.

But is it useful to us? The stop only works when stopping a recording not
playback. As its function is to synchronise filming. The recording starts
with the loud bleep. So all recordings will need editing. So you can make
up your mind if it is of value to you.

Regards,


Gena

Call: M0EBP
DMR ID: 2346259
Loc: IO83PS
73





Gena

Call: M0EBP
DMR ID: 2346259
Loc: IO83PS
73


Re: Zoom marker function in firmware 2.30

Hamit Campos
 

Ah mad annoying. Is there a toen for pausing though? But yeah that's going to be something to consider then. Oh well. At least it's something. Not what I'd thought it was but oh well.

On 5/21/2020 4:19 PM, Aidan wrote:
Well, yes they actually appear in the file. Even if pre record is
turned off, as soon as the sound marker is turned on, then you get
them in the file. I tested that by not having headphones plugged in,
then press record on h1n, I heard nothing but when stopt a few seconds
later and played I can here them loud and clear also just before you
press stop they also appear.

On 5/21/20, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:
Ah interesting that doesn't add up. But I guess again as you said maybe
they are in the file for lining up with the video. So do you get them in
the file even if you don't have pre record on? From what you're
suggesting I guess perhaps but let me know. But yeah that is odd. Sounds
like it's actually incoding them into the file and not just making
beeping sounds like the Olympus recorders. I don't know if the F 1s do
what you're describing. Hope not. Well we'll see I guess when I first
get the thing to write to the card again. But yes I'll ask Abby to turn
it on.

On 5/21/2020 3:53 PM, Aidan wrote:
It seems to behave the same as on the h1n, wich I do have, and there
its much easyer to turn them on/off, but I don't like the fact that
they appear in the file. Yes, its fru the headphones only, but when
playback the file the beeps are in there. So you have to cut them out.

On 5/21/20, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:
Ah you found it Gena. So I was right then you have to set them then.
Where was it? I'll see if Abby can help me turn them on. Now you said
something about it's all over your recordings. Does it come over the
speaker as well then? Because again compairing with the F recorders on
those you get it in the headphone jack. Only over the headphones as I've
been lead to understand.

On 5/21/2020 3:37 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
Hello All,

I can confirm that beeps do sound on record and stop with the 2.30
firmware installed, while wearing headphones.

After installing the firmware as Hamit suggested it is in the Recording
menu. The bottom of the list is Sound markers. When you enter that menu
there are strange options which didn’t make any sense to me initially.
Then I found in the mode menu option there are 3 options. Off which is
the
default. Then Record and the bottom option Recorde and stop. They are
quite long loud beeps by default. But the menu has configurable
options.

But is it useful to us? The stop only works when stopping a recording
not
playback. As its function is to synchronise filming. The recording
starts
with the loud bleep. So all recordings will need editing. So you can
make
up your mind if it is of value to you.

Regards,


Gena

Call: M0EBP
DMR ID: 2346259
Loc: IO83PS
73





Re: Zoom marker function in firmware 2.30

Aidan
 

Well, yes they actually appear in the file. Even if pre record is
turned off, as soon as the sound marker is turned on, then you get
them in the file. I tested that by not having headphones plugged in,
then press record on h1n, I heard nothing but when stopt a few seconds
later and played I can here them loud and clear also just before you
press stop they also appear.

On 5/21/20, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:
Ah interesting that doesn't add up. But I guess again as you said maybe
they are in the file for lining up with the video. So do you get them in
the file even if you don't have pre record on? From what you're
suggesting I guess perhaps but let me know. But yeah that is odd. Sounds
like it's actually incoding them into the file and not just making
beeping sounds like the Olympus recorders. I don't know if the F 1s do
what you're describing. Hope not. Well we'll see I guess when I first
get the thing to write to the card again. But yes I'll ask Abby to turn
it on.

On 5/21/2020 3:53 PM, Aidan wrote:
It seems to behave the same as on the h1n, wich I do have, and there
its much easyer to turn them on/off, but I don't like the fact that
they appear in the file. Yes, its fru the headphones only, but when
playback the file the beeps are in there. So you have to cut them out.

On 5/21/20, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:
Ah you found it Gena. So I was right then you have to set them then.
Where was it? I'll see if Abby can help me turn them on. Now you said
something about it's all over your recordings. Does it come over the
speaker as well then? Because again compairing with the F recorders on
those you get it in the headphone jack. Only over the headphones as I've
been lead to understand.

On 5/21/2020 3:37 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
Hello All,

I can confirm that beeps do sound on record and stop with the 2.30
firmware installed, while wearing headphones.

After installing the firmware as Hamit suggested it is in the Recording
menu. The bottom of the list is Sound markers. When you enter that menu
there are strange options which didn’t make any sense to me initially.
Then I found in the mode menu option there are 3 options. Off which is
the
default. Then Record and the bottom option Recorde and stop. They are
quite long loud beeps by default. But the menu has configurable
options.

But is it useful to us? The stop only works when stopping a recording
not
playback. As its function is to synchronise filming. The recording
starts
with the loud bleep. So all recordings will need editing. So you can
make
up your mind if it is of value to you.

Regards,


Gena

Call: M0EBP
DMR ID: 2346259
Loc: IO83PS
73







Re: Zoom marker function in firmware 2.30

Hamit Campos
 

Ah interesting that doesn't add up. But I guess again as you said maybe they are in the file for lining up with the video. So do you get them in the file even if you don't have pre record on? From what you're suggesting I guess perhaps but let me know. But yeah that is odd. Sounds like it's actually incoding them into the file and not just making beeping sounds like the Olympus recorders. I don't know if the F 1s do what you're describing. Hope not. Well we'll see I guess when I first get the thing to write to the card again. But yes I'll ask Abby to turn it on.

On 5/21/2020 3:53 PM, Aidan wrote:
It seems to behave the same as on the h1n, wich I do have, and there
its much easyer to turn them on/off, but I don't like the fact that
they appear in the file. Yes, its fru the headphones only, but when
playback the file the beeps are in there. So you have to cut them out.

On 5/21/20, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:
Ah you found it Gena. So I was right then you have to set them then.
Where was it? I'll see if Abby can help me turn them on. Now you said
something about it's all over your recordings. Does it come over the
speaker as well then? Because again compairing with the F recorders on
those you get it in the headphone jack. Only over the headphones as I've
been lead to understand.

On 5/21/2020 3:37 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
Hello All,

I can confirm that beeps do sound on record and stop with the 2.30
firmware installed, while wearing headphones.

After installing the firmware as Hamit suggested it is in the Recording
menu. The bottom of the list is Sound markers. When you enter that menu
there are strange options which didn’t make any sense to me initially.
Then I found in the mode menu option there are 3 options. Off which is the
default. Then Record and the bottom option Recorde and stop. They are
quite long loud beeps by default. But the menu has configurable options.

But is it useful to us? The stop only works when stopping a recording not
playback. As its function is to synchronise filming. The recording starts
with the loud bleep. So all recordings will need editing. So you can make
up your mind if it is of value to you.

Regards,


Gena

Call: M0EBP
DMR ID: 2346259
Loc: IO83PS
73





Re: Zoom marker function in firmware 2.30

Aidan
 

It seems to behave the same as on the h1n, wich I do have, and there
its much easyer to turn them on/off, but I don't like the fact that
they appear in the file. Yes, its fru the headphones only, but when
playback the file the beeps are in there. So you have to cut them out.

On 5/21/20, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:
Ah you found it Gena. So I was right then you have to set them then.
Where was it? I'll see if Abby can help me turn them on. Now you said
something about it's all over your recordings. Does it come over the
speaker as well then? Because again compairing with the F recorders on
those you get it in the headphone jack. Only over the headphones as I've
been lead to understand.

On 5/21/2020 3:37 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
Hello All,

I can confirm that beeps do sound on record and stop with the 2.30
firmware installed, while wearing headphones.

After installing the firmware as Hamit suggested it is in the Recording
menu. The bottom of the list is Sound markers. When you enter that menu
there are strange options which didn’t make any sense to me initially.
Then I found in the mode menu option there are 3 options. Off which is the
default. Then Record and the bottom option Recorde and stop. They are
quite long loud beeps by default. But the menu has configurable options.

But is it useful to us? The stop only works when stopping a recording not
playback. As its function is to synchronise filming. The recording starts
with the loud bleep. So all recordings will need editing. So you can make
up your mind if it is of value to you.

Regards,


Gena

Call: M0EBP
DMR ID: 2346259
Loc: IO83PS
73






Re: Zoom marker function in firmware 2.30

Hamit Campos
 

Ah you found it Gena. So I was right then you have to set them then. Where was it? I'll see if Abby can help me turn them on. Now you said something about it's all over your recordings. Does it come over the speaker as well then? Because again compairing with the F recorders on those you get it in the headphone jack. Only over the headphones as I've been lead to understand.

On 5/21/2020 3:37 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
Hello All,

I can confirm that beeps do sound on record and stop with the 2.30 firmware installed, while wearing headphones.

After installing the firmware as Hamit suggested it is in the Recording menu. The bottom of the list is Sound markers. When you enter that menu there are strange options which didn’t make any sense to me initially. Then I found in the mode menu option there are 3 options. Off which is the default. Then Record and the bottom option Recorde and stop. They are quite long loud beeps by default. But the menu has configurable options.

But is it useful to us? The stop only works when stopping a recording not playback. As its function is to synchronise filming. The recording starts with the loud bleep. So all recordings will need editing. So you can make up your mind if it is of value to you.

Regards,


Gena

Call: M0EBP
DMR ID: 2346259
Loc: IO83PS
73