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Re: Trying To Convert File To MP3

JM Casey
 

Hey Tom.
Well, it's a playlist. So if it can find the files the text points to -- it will play them. If not..then not.

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman
Sent: June 5, 2020 12:44 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3

But it can (if I understand right) play music; is this not correct? I did get it solved! Thanks!
Tom Kaufman

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2020 7:22 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3

Sounds like you got it solved. Just a bit of clarification of my own though; an m3u file is nothing more than a text file that contains a playlist.



-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman
Sent: June 4, 2020 1:56 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3

Hello list: Just to try and clarify things a little, one of the files is an Mp4 (not M4P) this Zoom client (when you use it to record meetings and such) apparently gives you three copies of a given recording: an MP4, an M4A and an M3U file. So I am trying to create a situation (and I'm going to try Barry's suggestion in a little while to see if what he recommends will work for me) just wanted to jump in and clarify what I am working with. Just to reiterate: the files do seem to convert; problem is that the converted files won't ply; not in Winamp or any other player I have tried, including Windows Media or VLC!
Tom Kaufman

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of DAVID
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2020 2:13 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3

Hey barry I tried that but it did not work for me.
Maybe it doh work with m4p files.


-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Barry Chapman
Sent: Thursday, 4 June 2020 1:26 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3

Hi Tom,

To get to the Winamp disk writer plugin:

1. Launch Winamp and open the file you wish to convert.
2. Press v to stop it playing.
3. Press ctrl+p for Winamp preferences.
4. Up or down arrow to plugins. If it is closed, press right arrow to open it.
5. Down arrow to output.
6. Press tab twice. You will probably be on Nullsoft DirectSound Output.
7. Down arrow to Nullsoft Disk Writer and press enter.
8. Press x and the file will be converted to wav rather than playing. By default, the converted file will be in your music folder under users and your name with a number such as 01 at the start. This can be changed in the plugin configuration.
9. Follow the steps above again to set the output plugin back to Nullsoft DirectSound Output. Otherwise, files will continue to be copied rather than played.

If you need any more detail, please let me know.

Regards,
Barry Chapman

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman
Sent: Thursday, 4 June 2020 1:24 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3

Barry: I did try converting the original M4A (which does play in Winamp) to WAV just now; no soap! It won't play! But tell me about this Winamp Disk Writer output and how I either "get to it" or install it or whatever I need to do? As I said in an earlier reply, I don't claim to know a whole lot about this kind of stuff; am trying to do a favor for a friend and am having no luck! If it's as simple as using this Winamp Disk Writer to convert it to WAV; then converting that Wav file to an MP3, then I should be able to do what I want to do, which is to take the part of the file that my friend doesn't need away. First, I need to know more about this Winamp Disk Writer Output plugin!

Thanks,
Tom Kaufman

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Barry Chapman
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 10:30 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3

Hi Tom,

If the original plays in Winamp, have you tried converting it to Wav using the Winamp Disk Writer output plugin. That works for me. You can then convert the wav to mp3 with Switch.

Regards,
Barry Chapman

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman
Sent: Thursday, 4 June 2020 11:19 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3

Georgina: I wasn't trying to criticize you (or anyone) am just simply stating what I have done so far! As for Error messages from Winamp, none; only thing is, Winamp isn't playing the converted version of the file. Admittedly, I am not as well-versed about these things as many who are on this list. However, to me, it seemed like converting the file in qu4estion to MP3; then using MP3 Direct Cut (a program that I have had good luck with for a long time now) seemed to be the way to go. But that's why I put this query here in hopes someone could point me in the right direction! I will check the bit rate of the convert file; for now, I have seen that the original file (non-converted) is 53KPBS. So next, I will look at the converted file and see what that says! Again...I'm not being critical of your assessments and apologize if I came off that way! Am sure that you (along with others on this list) have a much better understanding of these things than I do!
Tom Kaufman

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Georgina Joyce
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 6:43 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3

Hello Tom,

I was only trying to bring your attention to what it is you are doing and attempting to do. I don’t know these utilities that are obviously been created to simplify the process. You appear to be looking for a quick no fuss utility.

I cannot guess why your workflow didn’t work on this occasion. The only way you would establish why the file became corrupted. Or maybe it didn’t maybe there is something that has been done to the file that Winamp doesn’t like. Have you tried another player? Have you looked at the file-size to see how it differs from the original. There are so many things with what you are doing to the files that could cause Winamp to refuse to play it. What do Winamp error messages say.

Have you considered getting a copy of something like audacity and learning that? It will be a lot easier with such a program than taking the easy way of using these little utilities that mangle your files. But if they work for you sometimes and you are happy with that then fine. But you will have to investigate why it didn’t work this time. I don’t think anyone here could guess what has happened. Unless they understand how these utilities work and have been using these utilities for some time to know their little quirks. Have you wrote to the program suppliers for support?
Good luck,

On 3 Jun 2020, at 23:09, Tom Kaufman <tomcat53@...> wrote:

To Tony and Georgina: I forgot to mention that Zoom does create more than one file; one of the files is named Audio_Only; if I'm not mistaken, this particular file is the M4A and will play in Winamp! But if again, if I convert to MP3, then Winamp absolutely will not play it in its converted form!
Tom Kaufman

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of
Tony
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 5:53 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3

I have used Audio Converter Plus for M4a files. It will alsw convert M4B files if you rename them to M4A.

I also use Free M4A to MP3 Converter. It can split M4B books into chapter files.

Both can reduce the bit rate if the files are too large as long as you don't go too far and lose sound quality.

Tony

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of
Tom Kaufman
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 3:50 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3

Okay...I tried converting to WAV; same result: file won't play! One of the files in this group is "audio_only; this file in its original form is an M4A file. I need to make an MP3 file so I can then run it through MP3 Direct cut and take the unwanted stuff out! Can this not be done? I know that MP3 files definitely can be cut as I've done it often enough! So what is it I'm doing wrong here?
Thanks,
Tom Kaufman

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of
Georgina Joyce
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 4:28 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3

Hello,

You are working with 2 lossy formats. You should convert to wav or another lossless format make your cuts etc then convert to mp3. Because you might not know it but this is what switch would have been doing in the background. I am guessing that something wasn’t carried across to the mp3 file. This will cut down on the number of downward conversions. Which is important because each conversion further detail is lost, hence their name lossy formats.

HTH

Gena
On 3 Jun 2020, at 21:14, Tom Kaufman <tomcat53@...> wrote:

Hello list: Am attempting to convert an MP4 file to MP3; here's what
is
happening: I am using the program Switch to convert this MP4 file to
an MP3 file, so I then can running it through MP3 Direct Cut to trim
some parts off! However, while I have managed to convert to MP3,
then I find I have no file.at least, the file isn't playing in
Winamp; nor will it play in MP3 Direct Cut! What is it I am missing?
An doing this for a friend who needs this, so am hoping I can get a solution to this one!

Thanks,

Tom Kaufman



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Re: On Mics again

Aidan
 

Well, the phone mikes is good yes, but I wouldn't go as far as to say
rather have those instead of a recorder. And with many of them you
cannot here speech unless if they have a headphone out and sometimes
you want to use it without and then you have no speech so I won't rely
on that alone.

On 5/30/20, Georgina Joyce <gena@...> wrote:
Hello,

Well they talk about headphones in the video, why don’t you watch it. Free
earphones that come with the phone are not liked.

But what for? Best for music or evaluations of voice and music? This thread
is about assessing microphones. So you would want a good flat pair. Where as
if you want them to listen to music dependent upon what kind of music you
would want to use them for. You would want some headphones that are
engineered for that purpose.

Like mics, you can spend all kinds of silly money. Podcastage did mention
the good old Sony 7506.

Ask yourself:

How much do I want to spend?
What do I want to use them for?
What are my comfort requirements?

Good luck.

Regards,
On 30 May 2020, at 16:11, stewartross via groups.io
<stewartross=sky.com@groups.io> wrote:

don't no if this on the list
what is the best headphones and mic to get for an i fone 8?
from stew
----- Original Message ----- From: "Georgina Joyce" <gena@...>
To: <all-audio@groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2020 3:42 PM
Subject: [all-audio] On Mics again


Hello All,

Having just watched a booth Junky video where he points out that a phone
microphone is probably good enough and money should be spent on deadening
audio reflections rather than a mic. In respect of voice recording. He
refers to another video about reviewing mics by Curtis Jud and Bandrew
Scott from Podcastage. You might agree with me a well worth listen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pMS6UOGYl4

All the best

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Re: Major problems when attempting to record a stream

Colin Howard
 

Greetings,

I know nothing about audio cable, I am discussing a function in total
Recorder. This can be used to time shift a recording or immediate capture.
I believe GoldWave has a similar feature but never tried using it.

Not quite true, I did, ages ago but could not resolve exactly what format of
url it required.

On Thu, 4 Jun 2020 09:53:23 -0700, "Donald Roberts"
<donald_roberts_99@...> wrote:

-     Sincere thanks for your comprehensive response.  Sorry for my
-delayed response.  Yes indeed, Collin, I did receive that message and
-have saved it for future reference.
-
-
-The majority of streams which I record are not musical; therefore, I
-wasn't concerned about quality, and the stereo mix option suited my
-needs.  You mentioned background recording.  Are we talking about
-something like audio cable?
-
-
-Don Roberts
-
-
-On 6/4/2020 7:42 AM, Colin Howard wrote:
-> Greetings,
->
-> here is the message I sent to the group yesterday, to which, Donald, you
-> neither replied nor acknowledge on list or privately to me.
->
-> To: all-audio@groups.io
-> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Major problems when attempting to record a
stream
-> From: "Colin Howard" <Colin@...>
-> Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2020 08:33:46 +0100
->
-> Greetings,
->
-> I am surprised in TR you are using the stereo mix, I do not for live
-> streams, I capture the sound off the stream by using background
recording.
->
-> Then, again, what live streams are you taking?
->
-> I can supply you with direct links for all the BBC streams plus a few
others
-> such as The Ride Radio Etc.
->
-> Do you know how to use TR's background recording function?
->
-> I use it extensively and can take about five streams on the same machine
-> together and none interfere with each other, maybe I could have more,
think
-> this is rather dependent on my broadband capabilities.
->
-> I can have them all set to background mode, meaning I don't hear the
-> streams, I can go into any and play as it records, stopping play leaves
play
-> at the stop point and resuming picks up. You can wind back or forward
but
-> when you meet the point of recording, play goes back to the start.
->
-> If you want more info, please come back privately to me at:
->
-> colin@...
->
-> I've been using TR now for about ten or maybe even more years, my current
-> version is V8.3Pro, I do have V8.6Pro but being happy with the older one,
-> not installed it yet. I use TR on my old WXP laptop and my W7 desktop.
->
-> On Mon, 1 Jun 2020 20:01:51 -0700, "Donald Roberts"
-> <donald_roberts_99@...> wrote:
->
-> -I have two PCs, each of which is running Windows 10 version 1909.  The
-> -HP has the problem, the Dell does not.  I usually use Window-eyes
-> -9.5.4,  but use Jaws 18 when W E encounters an issue, though I am
-> -confident this is not relevant to my current issue.
-> -
-> -
-> -
-> -There are times when I wish to record a stream from the internet. So I
-> -fire up Total Recorder and set the source selection to stereo mix,
-> -having first gone into the sound card settings to make sure that stereo
-> -mix is selected.  But when I attempt to record, the sound is recorded
-> -but plays back at an extremely accelerated rate of speed.  Yes, I know
-> -that Total Recorder has a speed adjustment.  So I make sure that it is
-> -in the normal position, and to prove this, I play back a recording which
-> -was not made from streaming.  And this test recording plays at a normal
-> -speed.
-> -
-> -
-> -
-> -So in order to investigate further, I change to other recorders
-> -including Studio Recorder and Gold Wave, all of which exhibit the
-> -problem when I attempt to record a stream. There was a recent thread
-> -regarding something called Wave Max.  Unfortunately, I paid no attention
-> -to this thread but in retrospect wonder if Wave Max might be an issue.
-> -
-> -
-> -
-> -I am hoping that someone on list has encountered this issue and has
-> -found a solution.  If so, what is the solution?
-> -
-> -
-> -
-> -Thanks.
-> -     Don Roberts
->
->
-> ---
-> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
-> https://www.avg.com
->
->
->
->
-
-


Re: Trying To Convert File To MP3

Tom Kaufman
 

But it can (if I understand right) play music; is this not correct? I did get it solved! Thanks!
Tom Kaufman

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2020 7:22 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3

Sounds like you got it solved. Just a bit of clarification of my own though; an m3u file is nothing more than a text file that contains a playlist.



-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman
Sent: June 4, 2020 1:56 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3

Hello list: Just to try and clarify things a little, one of the files is an Mp4 (not M4P) this Zoom client (when you use it to record meetings and such) apparently gives you three copies of a given recording: an MP4, an M4A and an M3U file. So I am trying to create a situation (and I'm going to try Barry's suggestion in a little while to see if what he recommends will work for me) just wanted to jump in and clarify what I am working with. Just to reiterate: the files do seem to convert; problem is that the converted files won't ply; not in Winamp or any other player I have tried, including Windows Media or VLC!
Tom Kaufman

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of DAVID
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2020 2:13 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3

Hey barry I tried that but it did not work for me.
Maybe it doh work with m4p files.


-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Barry Chapman
Sent: Thursday, 4 June 2020 1:26 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3

Hi Tom,

To get to the Winamp disk writer plugin:

1. Launch Winamp and open the file you wish to convert.
2. Press v to stop it playing.
3. Press ctrl+p for Winamp preferences.
4. Up or down arrow to plugins. If it is closed, press right arrow to open it.
5. Down arrow to output.
6. Press tab twice. You will probably be on Nullsoft DirectSound Output.
7. Down arrow to Nullsoft Disk Writer and press enter.
8. Press x and the file will be converted to wav rather than playing. By default, the converted file will be in your music folder under users and your name with a number such as 01 at the start. This can be changed in the plugin configuration.
9. Follow the steps above again to set the output plugin back to Nullsoft DirectSound Output. Otherwise, files will continue to be copied rather than played.

If you need any more detail, please let me know.

Regards,
Barry Chapman

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman
Sent: Thursday, 4 June 2020 1:24 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3

Barry: I did try converting the original M4A (which does play in Winamp) to WAV just now; no soap! It won't play! But tell me about this Winamp Disk Writer output and how I either "get to it" or install it or whatever I need to do? As I said in an earlier reply, I don't claim to know a whole lot about this kind of stuff; am trying to do a favor for a friend and am having no luck! If it's as simple as using this Winamp Disk Writer to convert it to WAV; then converting that Wav file to an MP3, then I should be able to do what I want to do, which is to take the part of the file that my friend doesn't need away. First, I need to know more about this Winamp Disk Writer Output plugin!

Thanks,
Tom Kaufman

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Barry Chapman
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 10:30 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3

Hi Tom,

If the original plays in Winamp, have you tried converting it to Wav using the Winamp Disk Writer output plugin. That works for me. You can then convert the wav to mp3 with Switch.

Regards,
Barry Chapman

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman
Sent: Thursday, 4 June 2020 11:19 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3

Georgina: I wasn't trying to criticize you (or anyone) am just simply stating what I have done so far! As for Error messages from Winamp, none; only thing is, Winamp isn't playing the converted version of the file. Admittedly, I am not as well-versed about these things as many who are on this list. However, to me, it seemed like converting the file in qu4estion to MP3; then using MP3 Direct Cut (a program that I have had good luck with for a long time now) seemed to be the way to go. But that's why I put this query here in hopes someone could point me in the right direction! I will check the bit rate of the convert file; for now, I have seen that the original file (non-converted) is 53KPBS. So next, I will look at the converted file and see what that says! Again...I'm not being critical of your assessments and apologize if I came off that way! Am sure that you (along with others on this list) have a much better understanding of these things than I do!
Tom Kaufman

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Georgina Joyce
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 6:43 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3

Hello Tom,

I was only trying to bring your attention to what it is you are doing and attempting to do. I don’t know these utilities that are obviously been created to simplify the process. You appear to be looking for a quick no fuss utility.

I cannot guess why your workflow didn’t work on this occasion. The only way you would establish why the file became corrupted. Or maybe it didn’t maybe there is something that has been done to the file that Winamp doesn’t like. Have you tried another player? Have you looked at the file-size to see how it differs from the original. There are so many things with what you are doing to the files that could cause Winamp to refuse to play it. What do Winamp error messages say.

Have you considered getting a copy of something like audacity and learning that? It will be a lot easier with such a program than taking the easy way of using these little utilities that mangle your files. But if they work for you sometimes and you are happy with that then fine. But you will have to investigate why it didn’t work this time. I don’t think anyone here could guess what has happened. Unless they understand how these utilities work and have been using these utilities for some time to know their little quirks. Have you wrote to the program suppliers for support?
Good luck,

On 3 Jun 2020, at 23:09, Tom Kaufman <tomcat53@...> wrote:

To Tony and Georgina: I forgot to mention that Zoom does create more than one file; one of the files is named Audio_Only; if I'm not mistaken, this particular file is the M4A and will play in Winamp! But if again, if I convert to MP3, then Winamp absolutely will not play it in its converted form!
Tom Kaufman

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of
Tony
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 5:53 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3

I have used Audio Converter Plus for M4a files. It will alsw convert M4B files if you rename them to M4A.

I also use Free M4A to MP3 Converter. It can split M4B books into chapter files.

Both can reduce the bit rate if the files are too large as long as you don't go too far and lose sound quality.

Tony

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of
Tom Kaufman
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 3:50 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3

Okay...I tried converting to WAV; same result: file won't play! One of the files in this group is "audio_only; this file in its original form is an M4A file. I need to make an MP3 file so I can then run it through MP3 Direct cut and take the unwanted stuff out! Can this not be done? I know that MP3 files definitely can be cut as I've done it often enough! So what is it I'm doing wrong here?
Thanks,
Tom Kaufman

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of
Georgina Joyce
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 4:28 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3

Hello,

You are working with 2 lossy formats. You should convert to wav or another lossless format make your cuts etc then convert to mp3. Because you might not know it but this is what switch would have been doing in the background. I am guessing that something wasn’t carried across to the mp3 file. This will cut down on the number of downward conversions. Which is important because each conversion further detail is lost, hence their name lossy formats.

HTH

Gena
On 3 Jun 2020, at 21:14, Tom Kaufman <tomcat53@...> wrote:

Hello list: Am attempting to convert an MP4 file to MP3; here's what
is
happening: I am using the program Switch to convert this MP4 file to
an MP3 file, so I then can running it through MP3 Direct Cut to trim
some parts off! However, while I have managed to convert to MP3,
then I find I have no file.at least, the file isn't playing in
Winamp; nor will it play in MP3 Direct Cut! What is it I am missing?
An doing this for a friend who needs this, so am hoping I can get a solution to this one!

Thanks,

Tom Kaufman



Gena

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Re: Trying To Convert File To MP3

JM Casey
 

My winamp (5.666) will play most .m4a files. I have downloaded a lot of plugins for it over the years to give it the ability to play different formats though and I can't recall if that was one. Maybe search around for winamp .m4a plugins on google if you want this to work.

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman
Sent: June 3, 2020 11:24 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3

Barry: I did try converting the original M4A (which does play in Winamp) to WAV just now; no soap! It won't play! But tell me about this Winamp Disk Writer output and how I either "get to it" or install it or whatever I need to do? As I said in an earlier reply, I don't claim to know a whole lot about this kind of stuff; am trying to do a favor for a friend and am having no luck! If it's as simple as using this Winamp Disk Writer to convert it to WAV; then converting that Wav file to an MP3, then I should be able to do what I want to do, which is to take the part of the file that my friend doesn't need away. First, I need to know more about this Winamp Disk Writer Output plugin!

Thanks,
Tom Kaufman

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Barry Chapman
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 10:30 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3

Hi Tom,

If the original plays in Winamp, have you tried converting it to Wav using the Winamp Disk Writer output plugin. That works for me. You can then convert the wav to mp3 with Switch.

Regards,
Barry Chapman

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman
Sent: Thursday, 4 June 2020 11:19 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3

Georgina: I wasn't trying to criticize you (or anyone) am just simply stating what I have done so far! As for Error messages from Winamp, none; only thing is, Winamp isn't playing the converted version of the file. Admittedly, I am not as well-versed about these things as many who are on this list. However, to me, it seemed like converting the file in qu4estion to MP3; then using MP3 Direct Cut (a program that I have had good luck with for a long time now) seemed to be the way to go. But that's why I put this query here in hopes someone could point me in the right direction! I will check the bit rate of the convert file; for now, I have seen that the original file (non-converted) is 53KPBS. So next, I will look at the converted file and see what that says! Again...I'm not being critical of your assessments and apologize if I came off that way! Am sure that you (along with others on this list) have a much better understanding of these things than I do!
Tom Kaufman

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Georgina Joyce
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 6:43 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3

Hello Tom,

I was only trying to bring your attention to what it is you are doing and attempting to do. I don’t know these utilities that are obviously been created to simplify the process. You appear to be looking for a quick no fuss utility.

I cannot guess why your workflow didn’t work on this occasion. The only way you would establish why the file became corrupted. Or maybe it didn’t maybe there is something that has been done to the file that Winamp doesn’t like. Have you tried another player? Have you looked at the file-size to see how it differs from the original. There are so many things with what you are doing to the files that could cause Winamp to refuse to play it. What do Winamp error messages say.

Have you considered getting a copy of something like audacity and learning that? It will be a lot easier with such a program than taking the easy way of using these little utilities that mangle your files. But if they work for you sometimes and you are happy with that then fine. But you will have to investigate why it didn’t work this time. I don’t think anyone here could guess what has happened. Unless they understand how these utilities work and have been using these utilities for some time to know their little quirks. Have you wrote to the program suppliers for support?
Good luck,

On 3 Jun 2020, at 23:09, Tom Kaufman <tomcat53@...> wrote:

To Tony and Georgina: I forgot to mention that Zoom does create more than one file; one of the files is named Audio_Only; if I'm not mistaken, this particular file is the M4A and will play in Winamp! But if again, if I convert to MP3, then Winamp absolutely will not play it in its converted form!
Tom Kaufman

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of
Tony
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 5:53 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3

I have used Audio Converter Plus for M4a files. It will alsw convert M4B files if you rename them to M4A.

I also use Free M4A to MP3 Converter. It can split M4B books into chapter files.

Both can reduce the bit rate if the files are too large as long as you don't go too far and lose sound quality.

Tony

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of
Tom Kaufman
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 3:50 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3

Okay...I tried converting to WAV; same result: file won't play! One of the files in this group is "audio_only; this file in its original form is an M4A file. I need to make an MP3 file so I can then run it through MP3 Direct cut and take the unwanted stuff out! Can this not be done? I know that MP3 files definitely can be cut as I've done it often enough! So what is it I'm doing wrong here?
Thanks,
Tom Kaufman

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of
Georgina Joyce
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 4:28 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3

Hello,

You are working with 2 lossy formats. You should convert to wav or another lossless format make your cuts etc then convert to mp3. Because you might not know it but this is what switch would have been doing in the background. I am guessing that something wasn’t carried across to the mp3 file. This will cut down on the number of downward conversions. Which is important because each conversion further detail is lost, hence their name lossy formats.

HTH

Gena
On 3 Jun 2020, at 21:14, Tom Kaufman <tomcat53@...> wrote:

Hello list: Am attempting to convert an MP4 file to MP3; here's what
is
happening: I am using the program Switch to convert this MP4 file to
an MP3 file, so I then can running it through MP3 Direct Cut to trim
some parts off! However, while I have managed to convert to MP3,
then I find I have no file.at least, the file isn't playing in
Winamp; nor will it play in MP3 Direct Cut! What is it I am missing?
An doing this for a friend who needs this, so am hoping I can get a solution to this one!

Thanks,

Tom Kaufman



Gena

Call: M0EBP
DMR ID: 2346259
Loc: IO83PS
73















Gena

Call: M0EBP
DMR ID: 2346259
Loc: IO83PS
73


Re: Trying To Convert File To MP3

JM Casey
 

Sounds like you got it solved. Just a bit of clarification of my own though; an m3u file is nothing more than a text file that contains a playlist.

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman
Sent: June 4, 2020 1:56 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3

Hello list: Just to try and clarify things a little, one of the files is an Mp4 (not M4P) this Zoom client (when you use it to record meetings and such) apparently gives you three copies of a given recording: an MP4, an M4A and an M3U file. So I am trying to create a situation (and I'm going to try Barry's suggestion in a little while to see if what he recommends will work for me) just wanted to jump in and clarify what I am working with. Just to reiterate: the files do seem to convert; problem is that the converted files won't ply; not in Winamp or any other player I have tried, including Windows Media or VLC!
Tom Kaufman

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of DAVID
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2020 2:13 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3

Hey barry I tried that but it did not work for me.
Maybe it doh work with m4p files.


-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Barry Chapman
Sent: Thursday, 4 June 2020 1:26 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3

Hi Tom,

To get to the Winamp disk writer plugin:

1. Launch Winamp and open the file you wish to convert.
2. Press v to stop it playing.
3. Press ctrl+p for Winamp preferences.
4. Up or down arrow to plugins. If it is closed, press right arrow to open it.
5. Down arrow to output.
6. Press tab twice. You will probably be on Nullsoft DirectSound Output.
7. Down arrow to Nullsoft Disk Writer and press enter.
8. Press x and the file will be converted to wav rather than playing. By default, the converted file will be in your music folder under users and your name with a number such as 01 at the start. This can be changed in the plugin configuration.
9. Follow the steps above again to set the output plugin back to Nullsoft DirectSound Output. Otherwise, files will continue to be copied rather than played.

If you need any more detail, please let me know.

Regards,
Barry Chapman

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman
Sent: Thursday, 4 June 2020 1:24 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3

Barry: I did try converting the original M4A (which does play in Winamp) to WAV just now; no soap! It won't play! But tell me about this Winamp Disk Writer output and how I either "get to it" or install it or whatever I need to do? As I said in an earlier reply, I don't claim to know a whole lot about this kind of stuff; am trying to do a favor for a friend and am having no luck! If it's as simple as using this Winamp Disk Writer to convert it to WAV; then converting that Wav file to an MP3, then I should be able to do what I want to do, which is to take the part of the file that my friend doesn't need away. First, I need to know more about this Winamp Disk Writer Output plugin!

Thanks,
Tom Kaufman

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Barry Chapman
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 10:30 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3

Hi Tom,

If the original plays in Winamp, have you tried converting it to Wav using the Winamp Disk Writer output plugin. That works for me. You can then convert the wav to mp3 with Switch.

Regards,
Barry Chapman

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman
Sent: Thursday, 4 June 2020 11:19 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3

Georgina: I wasn't trying to criticize you (or anyone) am just simply stating what I have done so far! As for Error messages from Winamp, none; only thing is, Winamp isn't playing the converted version of the file. Admittedly, I am not as well-versed about these things as many who are on this list. However, to me, it seemed like converting the file in qu4estion to MP3; then using MP3 Direct Cut (a program that I have had good luck with for a long time now) seemed to be the way to go. But that's why I put this query here in hopes someone could point me in the right direction! I will check the bit rate of the convert file; for now, I have seen that the original file (non-converted) is 53KPBS. So next, I will look at the converted file and see what that says! Again...I'm not being critical of your assessments and apologize if I came off that way! Am sure that you (along with others on this list) have a much better understanding of these things than I do!
Tom Kaufman

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Georgina Joyce
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 6:43 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3

Hello Tom,

I was only trying to bring your attention to what it is you are doing and attempting to do. I don’t know these utilities that are obviously been created to simplify the process. You appear to be looking for a quick no fuss utility.

I cannot guess why your workflow didn’t work on this occasion. The only way you would establish why the file became corrupted. Or maybe it didn’t maybe there is something that has been done to the file that Winamp doesn’t like. Have you tried another player? Have you looked at the file-size to see how it differs from the original. There are so many things with what you are doing to the files that could cause Winamp to refuse to play it. What do Winamp error messages say.

Have you considered getting a copy of something like audacity and learning that? It will be a lot easier with such a program than taking the easy way of using these little utilities that mangle your files. But if they work for you sometimes and you are happy with that then fine. But you will have to investigate why it didn’t work this time. I don’t think anyone here could guess what has happened. Unless they understand how these utilities work and have been using these utilities for some time to know their little quirks. Have you wrote to the program suppliers for support?
Good luck,

On 3 Jun 2020, at 23:09, Tom Kaufman <tomcat53@...> wrote:

To Tony and Georgina: I forgot to mention that Zoom does create more than one file; one of the files is named Audio_Only; if I'm not mistaken, this particular file is the M4A and will play in Winamp! But if again, if I convert to MP3, then Winamp absolutely will not play it in its converted form!
Tom Kaufman

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of
Tony
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 5:53 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3

I have used Audio Converter Plus for M4a files. It will alsw convert M4B files if you rename them to M4A.

I also use Free M4A to MP3 Converter. It can split M4B books into chapter files.

Both can reduce the bit rate if the files are too large as long as you don't go too far and lose sound quality.

Tony

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of
Tom Kaufman
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 3:50 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3

Okay...I tried converting to WAV; same result: file won't play! One of the files in this group is "audio_only; this file in its original form is an M4A file. I need to make an MP3 file so I can then run it through MP3 Direct cut and take the unwanted stuff out! Can this not be done? I know that MP3 files definitely can be cut as I've done it often enough! So what is it I'm doing wrong here?
Thanks,
Tom Kaufman

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of
Georgina Joyce
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 4:28 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3

Hello,

You are working with 2 lossy formats. You should convert to wav or another lossless format make your cuts etc then convert to mp3. Because you might not know it but this is what switch would have been doing in the background. I am guessing that something wasn’t carried across to the mp3 file. This will cut down on the number of downward conversions. Which is important because each conversion further detail is lost, hence their name lossy formats.

HTH

Gena
On 3 Jun 2020, at 21:14, Tom Kaufman <tomcat53@...> wrote:

Hello list: Am attempting to convert an MP4 file to MP3; here's what
is
happening: I am using the program Switch to convert this MP4 file to
an MP3 file, so I then can running it through MP3 Direct Cut to trim
some parts off! However, while I have managed to convert to MP3,
then I find I have no file.at least, the file isn't playing in
Winamp; nor will it play in MP3 Direct Cut! What is it I am missing?
An doing this for a friend who needs this, so am hoping I can get a solution to this one!

Thanks,

Tom Kaufman



Gena

Call: M0EBP
DMR ID: 2346259
Loc: IO83PS
73















Gena

Call: M0EBP
DMR ID: 2346259
Loc: IO83PS
73


Re: Trying To Convert File To MP3

Barry Chapman
 

Thanks Tom. I'm pleased it worked.

Barry Chapman

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman
Sent: Friday, 5 June 2020 7:32 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3

Hi Barry and list: You're the man; I did as you instructed and (thanks to you) was able to do with that file what I wanted to do! Thanks to you and to all on this list for responses and suggestions!
Tom Kaufman

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Barry Chapman
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2020 1:26 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3

Hi Tom,

To get to the Winamp disk writer plugin:

1. Launch Winamp and open the file you wish to convert.
2. Press v to stop it playing.
3. Press ctrl+p for Winamp preferences.
4. Up or down arrow to plugins. If it is closed, press right arrow to open it.
5. Down arrow to output.
6. Press tab twice. You will probably be on Nullsoft DirectSound Output.
7. Down arrow to Nullsoft Disk Writer and press enter.
8. Press x and the file will be converted to wav rather than playing. By default, the converted file will be in your music folder under users and your name with a number such as 01 at the start. This can be changed in the plugin configuration.
9. Follow the steps above again to set the output plugin back to Nullsoft DirectSound Output. Otherwise, files will continue to be copied rather than played.

If you need any more detail, please let me know.

Regards,
Barry Chapman

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman
Sent: Thursday, 4 June 2020 1:24 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3

Barry: I did try converting the original M4A (which does play in Winamp) to WAV just now; no soap! It won't play! But tell me about this Winamp Disk Writer output and how I either "get to it" or install it or whatever I need to do? As I said in an earlier reply, I don't claim to know a whole lot about this kind of stuff; am trying to do a favor for a friend and am having no luck! If it's as simple as using this Winamp Disk Writer to convert it to WAV; then converting that Wav file to an MP3, then I should be able to do what I want to do, which is to take the part of the file that my friend doesn't need away. First, I need to know more about this Winamp Disk Writer Output plugin!

Thanks,
Tom Kaufman

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Barry Chapman
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 10:30 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3

Hi Tom,

If the original plays in Winamp, have you tried converting it to Wav using the Winamp Disk Writer output plugin. That works for me. You can then convert the wav to mp3 with Switch.

Regards,
Barry Chapman

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman
Sent: Thursday, 4 June 2020 11:19 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3

Georgina: I wasn't trying to criticize you (or anyone) am just simply stating what I have done so far! As for Error messages from Winamp, none; only thing is, Winamp isn't playing the converted version of the file. Admittedly, I am not as well-versed about these things as many who are on this list. However, to me, it seemed like converting the file in qu4estion to MP3; then using MP3 Direct Cut (a program that I have had good luck with for a long time now) seemed to be the way to go. But that's why I put this query here in hopes someone could point me in the right direction! I will check the bit rate of the convert file; for now, I have seen that the original file (non-converted) is 53KPBS. So next, I will look at the converted file and see what that says! Again...I'm not being critical of your assessments and apologize if I came off that way! Am sure that you (along with others on this list) have a much better understanding of these things than I do!
Tom Kaufman

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Georgina Joyce
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 6:43 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3

Hello Tom,

I was only trying to bring your attention to what it is you are doing and attempting to do. I don’t know these utilities that are obviously been created to simplify the process. You appear to be looking for a quick no fuss utility.

I cannot guess why your workflow didn’t work on this occasion. The only way you would establish why the file became corrupted. Or maybe it didn’t maybe there is something that has been done to the file that Winamp doesn’t like. Have you tried another player? Have you looked at the file-size to see how it differs from the original. There are so many things with what you are doing to the files that could cause Winamp to refuse to play it. What do Winamp error messages say.

Have you considered getting a copy of something like audacity and learning that? It will be a lot easier with such a program than taking the easy way of using these little utilities that mangle your files. But if they work for you sometimes and you are happy with that then fine. But you will have to investigate why it didn’t work this time. I don’t think anyone here could guess what has happened. Unless they understand how these utilities work and have been using these utilities for some time to know their little quirks. Have you wrote to the program suppliers for support?
Good luck,

On 3 Jun 2020, at 23:09, Tom Kaufman <tomcat53@...> wrote:

To Tony and Georgina: I forgot to mention that Zoom does create more than one file; one of the files is named Audio_Only; if I'm not mistaken, this particular file is the M4A and will play in Winamp! But if again, if I convert to MP3, then Winamp absolutely will not play it in its converted form!
Tom Kaufman

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Tony
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 5:53 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3

I have used Audio Converter Plus for M4a files. It will alsw convert M4B files if you rename them to M4A.

I also use Free M4A to MP3 Converter. It can split M4B books into chapter files.

Both can reduce the bit rate if the files are too large as long as you don't go too far and lose sound quality.

Tony

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 3:50 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3

Okay...I tried converting to WAV; same result: file won't play! One of the files in this group is "audio_only; this file in its original form is an M4A file. I need to make an MP3 file so I can then run it through MP3 Direct cut and take the unwanted stuff out! Can this not be done? I know that MP3 files definitely can be cut as I've done it often enough! So what is it I'm doing wrong here?
Thanks,
Tom Kaufman

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Georgina Joyce
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 4:28 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3

Hello,

You are working with 2 lossy formats. You should convert to wav or another lossless format make your cuts etc then convert to mp3. Because you might not know it but this is what switch would have been doing in the background. I am guessing that something wasn’t carried across to the mp3 file. This will cut down on the number of downward conversions. Which is important because each conversion further detail is lost, hence their name lossy formats.

HTH

Gena
On 3 Jun 2020, at 21:14, Tom Kaufman <tomcat53@...> wrote:

Hello list: Am attempting to convert an MP4 file to MP3; here's what is
happening: I am using the program Switch to convert this MP4 file to an MP3
file, so I then can running it through MP3 Direct Cut to trim some parts
off! However, while I have managed to convert to MP3, then I find I have no
file.at least, the file isn't playing in Winamp; nor will it play in MP3
Direct Cut! What is it I am missing? An doing this for a friend who needs
this, so am hoping I can get a solution to this one!

Thanks,

Tom Kaufman



Gena

Call: M0EBP
DMR ID: 2346259
Loc: IO83PS
73















Gena

Call: M0EBP
DMR ID: 2346259
Loc: IO83PS
73


Re: Trying To Convert File To MP3

Tom Kaufman
 

Hi Barry and list: You're the man; I did as you instructed and (thanks to you) was able to do with that file what I wanted to do! Thanks to you and to all on this list for responses and suggestions!
Tom Kaufman

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Barry Chapman
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2020 1:26 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3

Hi Tom,

To get to the Winamp disk writer plugin:

1. Launch Winamp and open the file you wish to convert.
2. Press v to stop it playing.
3. Press ctrl+p for Winamp preferences.
4. Up or down arrow to plugins. If it is closed, press right arrow to open it.
5. Down arrow to output.
6. Press tab twice. You will probably be on Nullsoft DirectSound Output.
7. Down arrow to Nullsoft Disk Writer and press enter.
8. Press x and the file will be converted to wav rather than playing. By default, the converted file will be in your music folder under users and your name with a number such as 01 at the start. This can be changed in the plugin configuration.
9. Follow the steps above again to set the output plugin back to Nullsoft DirectSound Output. Otherwise, files will continue to be copied rather than played.

If you need any more detail, please let me know.

Regards,
Barry Chapman

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman
Sent: Thursday, 4 June 2020 1:24 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3

Barry: I did try converting the original M4A (which does play in Winamp) to WAV just now; no soap! It won't play! But tell me about this Winamp Disk Writer output and how I either "get to it" or install it or whatever I need to do? As I said in an earlier reply, I don't claim to know a whole lot about this kind of stuff; am trying to do a favor for a friend and am having no luck! If it's as simple as using this Winamp Disk Writer to convert it to WAV; then converting that Wav file to an MP3, then I should be able to do what I want to do, which is to take the part of the file that my friend doesn't need away. First, I need to know more about this Winamp Disk Writer Output plugin!

Thanks,
Tom Kaufman

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Barry Chapman
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 10:30 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3

Hi Tom,

If the original plays in Winamp, have you tried converting it to Wav using the Winamp Disk Writer output plugin. That works for me. You can then convert the wav to mp3 with Switch.

Regards,
Barry Chapman

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman
Sent: Thursday, 4 June 2020 11:19 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3

Georgina: I wasn't trying to criticize you (or anyone) am just simply stating what I have done so far! As for Error messages from Winamp, none; only thing is, Winamp isn't playing the converted version of the file. Admittedly, I am not as well-versed about these things as many who are on this list. However, to me, it seemed like converting the file in qu4estion to MP3; then using MP3 Direct Cut (a program that I have had good luck with for a long time now) seemed to be the way to go. But that's why I put this query here in hopes someone could point me in the right direction! I will check the bit rate of the convert file; for now, I have seen that the original file (non-converted) is 53KPBS. So next, I will look at the converted file and see what that says! Again...I'm not being critical of your assessments and apologize if I came off that way! Am sure that you (along with others on this list) have a much better understanding of these things than I do!
Tom Kaufman

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Georgina Joyce
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 6:43 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3

Hello Tom,

I was only trying to bring your attention to what it is you are doing and attempting to do. I don’t know these utilities that are obviously been created to simplify the process. You appear to be looking for a quick no fuss utility.

I cannot guess why your workflow didn’t work on this occasion. The only way you would establish why the file became corrupted. Or maybe it didn’t maybe there is something that has been done to the file that Winamp doesn’t like. Have you tried another player? Have you looked at the file-size to see how it differs from the original. There are so many things with what you are doing to the files that could cause Winamp to refuse to play it. What do Winamp error messages say.

Have you considered getting a copy of something like audacity and learning that? It will be a lot easier with such a program than taking the easy way of using these little utilities that mangle your files. But if they work for you sometimes and you are happy with that then fine. But you will have to investigate why it didn’t work this time. I don’t think anyone here could guess what has happened. Unless they understand how these utilities work and have been using these utilities for some time to know their little quirks. Have you wrote to the program suppliers for support?
Good luck,

On 3 Jun 2020, at 23:09, Tom Kaufman <tomcat53@...> wrote:

To Tony and Georgina: I forgot to mention that Zoom does create more than one file; one of the files is named Audio_Only; if I'm not mistaken, this particular file is the M4A and will play in Winamp! But if again, if I convert to MP3, then Winamp absolutely will not play it in its converted form!
Tom Kaufman

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Tony
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 5:53 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3

I have used Audio Converter Plus for M4a files. It will alsw convert M4B files if you rename them to M4A.

I also use Free M4A to MP3 Converter. It can split M4B books into chapter files.

Both can reduce the bit rate if the files are too large as long as you don't go too far and lose sound quality.

Tony

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 3:50 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3

Okay...I tried converting to WAV; same result: file won't play! One of the files in this group is "audio_only; this file in its original form is an M4A file. I need to make an MP3 file so I can then run it through MP3 Direct cut and take the unwanted stuff out! Can this not be done? I know that MP3 files definitely can be cut as I've done it often enough! So what is it I'm doing wrong here?
Thanks,
Tom Kaufman

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Georgina Joyce
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 4:28 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3

Hello,

You are working with 2 lossy formats. You should convert to wav or another lossless format make your cuts etc then convert to mp3. Because you might not know it but this is what switch would have been doing in the background. I am guessing that something wasn’t carried across to the mp3 file. This will cut down on the number of downward conversions. Which is important because each conversion further detail is lost, hence their name lossy formats.

HTH

Gena
On 3 Jun 2020, at 21:14, Tom Kaufman <tomcat53@...> wrote:

Hello list: Am attempting to convert an MP4 file to MP3; here's what is
happening: I am using the program Switch to convert this MP4 file to an MP3
file, so I then can running it through MP3 Direct Cut to trim some parts
off! However, while I have managed to convert to MP3, then I find I have no
file.at least, the file isn't playing in Winamp; nor will it play in MP3
Direct Cut! What is it I am missing? An doing this for a friend who needs
this, so am hoping I can get a solution to this one!

Thanks,

Tom Kaufman



Gena

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Re: Trying To Convert File To MP3

Tom Kaufman
 

Hello list: Just to try and clarify things a little, one of the files is an Mp4 (not M4P) this Zoom client (when you use it to record meetings and such) apparently gives you three copies of a given recording: an MP4, an M4A and an M3U file. So I am trying to create a situation (and I'm going to try Barry's suggestion in a little while to see if what he recommends will work for me) just wanted to jump in and clarify what I am working with. Just to reiterate: the files do seem to convert; problem is that the converted files won't ply; not in Winamp or any other player I have tried, including Windows Media or VLC!
Tom Kaufman

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of DAVID
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2020 2:13 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3

Hey barry I tried that but it did not work for me.
Maybe it doh work with m4p files.


-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Barry Chapman
Sent: Thursday, 4 June 2020 1:26 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3

Hi Tom,

To get to the Winamp disk writer plugin:

1. Launch Winamp and open the file you wish to convert.
2. Press v to stop it playing.
3. Press ctrl+p for Winamp preferences.
4. Up or down arrow to plugins. If it is closed, press right arrow to open it.
5. Down arrow to output.
6. Press tab twice. You will probably be on Nullsoft DirectSound Output.
7. Down arrow to Nullsoft Disk Writer and press enter.
8. Press x and the file will be converted to wav rather than playing. By default, the converted file will be in your music folder under users and your name with a number such as 01 at the start. This can be changed in the plugin configuration.
9. Follow the steps above again to set the output plugin back to Nullsoft DirectSound Output. Otherwise, files will continue to be copied rather than played.

If you need any more detail, please let me know.

Regards,
Barry Chapman

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman
Sent: Thursday, 4 June 2020 1:24 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3

Barry: I did try converting the original M4A (which does play in Winamp) to WAV just now; no soap! It won't play! But tell me about this Winamp Disk Writer output and how I either "get to it" or install it or whatever I need to do? As I said in an earlier reply, I don't claim to know a whole lot about this kind of stuff; am trying to do a favor for a friend and am having no luck! If it's as simple as using this Winamp Disk Writer to convert it to WAV; then converting that Wav file to an MP3, then I should be able to do what I want to do, which is to take the part of the file that my friend doesn't need away. First, I need to know more about this Winamp Disk Writer Output plugin!

Thanks,
Tom Kaufman

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Barry Chapman
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 10:30 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3

Hi Tom,

If the original plays in Winamp, have you tried converting it to Wav using the Winamp Disk Writer output plugin. That works for me. You can then convert the wav to mp3 with Switch.

Regards,
Barry Chapman

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman
Sent: Thursday, 4 June 2020 11:19 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3

Georgina: I wasn't trying to criticize you (or anyone) am just simply stating what I have done so far! As for Error messages from Winamp, none; only thing is, Winamp isn't playing the converted version of the file. Admittedly, I am not as well-versed about these things as many who are on this list. However, to me, it seemed like converting the file in qu4estion to MP3; then using MP3 Direct Cut (a program that I have had good luck with for a long time now) seemed to be the way to go. But that's why I put this query here in hopes someone could point me in the right direction! I will check the bit rate of the convert file; for now, I have seen that the original file (non-converted) is 53KPBS. So next, I will look at the converted file and see what that says! Again...I'm not being critical of your assessments and apologize if I came off that way! Am sure that you (along with others on this list) have a much better understanding of these things than I do!
Tom Kaufman

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Georgina Joyce
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 6:43 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3

Hello Tom,

I was only trying to bring your attention to what it is you are doing and attempting to do. I don’t know these utilities that are obviously been created to simplify the process. You appear to be looking for a quick no fuss utility.

I cannot guess why your workflow didn’t work on this occasion. The only way you would establish why the file became corrupted. Or maybe it didn’t maybe there is something that has been done to the file that Winamp doesn’t like. Have you tried another player? Have you looked at the file-size to see how it differs from the original. There are so many things with what you are doing to the files that could cause Winamp to refuse to play it. What do Winamp error messages say.

Have you considered getting a copy of something like audacity and learning that? It will be a lot easier with such a program than taking the easy way of using these little utilities that mangle your files. But if they work for you sometimes and you are happy with that then fine. But you will have to investigate why it didn’t work this time. I don’t think anyone here could guess what has happened. Unless they understand how these utilities work and have been using these utilities for some time to know their little quirks. Have you wrote to the program suppliers for support?
Good luck,

On 3 Jun 2020, at 23:09, Tom Kaufman <tomcat53@...> wrote:

To Tony and Georgina: I forgot to mention that Zoom does create more than one file; one of the files is named Audio_Only; if I'm not mistaken, this particular file is the M4A and will play in Winamp! But if again, if I convert to MP3, then Winamp absolutely will not play it in its converted form!
Tom Kaufman

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of
Tony
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 5:53 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3

I have used Audio Converter Plus for M4a files. It will alsw convert M4B files if you rename them to M4A.

I also use Free M4A to MP3 Converter. It can split M4B books into chapter files.

Both can reduce the bit rate if the files are too large as long as you don't go too far and lose sound quality.

Tony

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of
Tom Kaufman
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 3:50 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3

Okay...I tried converting to WAV; same result: file won't play! One of the files in this group is "audio_only; this file in its original form is an M4A file. I need to make an MP3 file so I can then run it through MP3 Direct cut and take the unwanted stuff out! Can this not be done? I know that MP3 files definitely can be cut as I've done it often enough! So what is it I'm doing wrong here?
Thanks,
Tom Kaufman

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of
Georgina Joyce
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 4:28 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3

Hello,

You are working with 2 lossy formats. You should convert to wav or another lossless format make your cuts etc then convert to mp3. Because you might not know it but this is what switch would have been doing in the background. I am guessing that something wasn’t carried across to the mp3 file. This will cut down on the number of downward conversions. Which is important because each conversion further detail is lost, hence their name lossy formats.

HTH

Gena
On 3 Jun 2020, at 21:14, Tom Kaufman <tomcat53@...> wrote:

Hello list: Am attempting to convert an MP4 file to MP3; here's what
is
happening: I am using the program Switch to convert this MP4 file to
an MP3 file, so I then can running it through MP3 Direct Cut to trim
some parts off! However, while I have managed to convert to MP3,
then I find I have no file.at least, the file isn't playing in
Winamp; nor will it play in MP3 Direct Cut! What is it I am missing?
An doing this for a friend who needs this, so am hoping I can get a solution to this one!

Thanks,

Tom Kaufman



Gena

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Re: Major problems when attempting to record a stream

Donald Roberts
 

Sincere thanks for your comprehensive response.  Sorry for my delayed response.  Yes indeed, Collin, I did receive that message and have saved it for future reference.


The majority of streams which I record are not musical; therefore, I wasn't concerned about quality, and the stereo mix option suited my needs.  You mentioned background recording.  Are we talking about something like audio cable?


Don Roberts

On 6/4/2020 7:42 AM, Colin Howard wrote:
Greetings,

here is the message I sent to the group yesterday, to which, Donald, you
neither replied nor acknowledge on list or privately to me.

To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Major problems when attempting to record a stream
From: "Colin Howard" <Colin@...>
Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2020 08:33:46 +0100

Greetings,

I am surprised in TR you are using the stereo mix, I do not for live
streams, I capture the sound off the stream by using background recording.

Then, again, what live streams are you taking?

I can supply you with direct links for all the BBC streams plus a few others
such as The Ride Radio Etc.

Do you know how to use TR's background recording function?

I use it extensively and can take about five streams on the same machine
together and none interfere with each other, maybe I could have more, think
this is rather dependent on my broadband capabilities.

I can have them all set to background mode, meaning I don't hear the
streams, I can go into any and play as it records, stopping play leaves play
at the stop point and resuming picks up. You can wind back or forward but
when you meet the point of recording, play goes back to the start.

If you want more info, please come back privately to me at:

colin@...

I've been using TR now for about ten or maybe even more years, my current
version is V8.3Pro, I do have V8.6Pro but being happy with the older one,
not installed it yet. I use TR on my old WXP laptop and my W7 desktop.

On Mon, 1 Jun 2020 20:01:51 -0700, "Donald Roberts"
<donald_roberts_99@...> wrote:

-I have two PCs, each of which is running Windows 10 version 1909.  The
-HP has the problem, the Dell does not.  I usually use Window-eyes
-9.5.4,  but use Jaws 18 when W E encounters an issue, though I am
-confident this is not relevant to my current issue.
-
-
-
-There are times when I wish to record a stream from the internet. So I
-fire up Total Recorder and set the source selection to stereo mix,
-having first gone into the sound card settings to make sure that stereo
-mix is selected.  But when I attempt to record, the sound is recorded
-but plays back at an extremely accelerated rate of speed.  Yes, I know
-that Total Recorder has a speed adjustment.  So I make sure that it is
-in the normal position, and to prove this, I play back a recording which
-was not made from streaming.  And this test recording plays at a normal
-speed.
-
-
-
-So in order to investigate further, I change to other recorders
-including Studio Recorder and Gold Wave, all of which exhibit the
-problem when I attempt to record a stream. There was a recent thread
-regarding something called Wave Max.  Unfortunately, I paid no attention
-to this thread but in retrospect wonder if Wave Max might be an issue.
-
-
-
-I am hoping that someone on list has encountered this issue and has
-found a solution.  If so, what is the solution?
-
-
-
-Thanks.
-     Don Roberts


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Re: Major problems when attempting to record a stream

Colin Howard
 

Greetings,

as, no doubt you have noted, not GoldWave, but Total Recorder! Senior
moment, too many pieces of software doing similar jobs!

On Thu, 04 Jun 2020 12:45:44 +0100, "Colin Howard" <Colin@...> wrote:

-Donald,
-
-I find it unbelievable you've not managed to sort this speed problem, I
sent
-you concise and clear instructions how to go about it in GoldWave, did you
-ever receive them?
-
-If not, I'll look up the original post again and resend to the list.
-
-On Wed, 3 Jun 2020 07:40:04 -0700, "Donald Roberts"
-<donald_roberts_99@...> wrote:
-
--Studio Recorder works well with any screen reader.  I usually use
--Window-Eyes, but Jaws also works very well with it.
--
--
--Don Roberts
--
--
--On 6/3/2020 4:40 AM, stewartross via groups.io wrote:
--> is studio recorder jaws user friendly?
--> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donald Roberts"
--> <donald_roberts_99@...>
--> To: <all-audio@groups.io>
--> Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2020 7:44 PM
--> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Major problems when attempting to record a
--> stream
-->
-->
-->> Thank you so much, Georgina, for your prompt response. What you
-->> suggest makes sense. But suggest places to check. For example, I know
-->> how to check sample rates in the various recording programs such as
-->> Total Recorder, GoldWave, and Studio Recorder; but where would I
-->> check sample rate settings in the sound card? When I look at those
-->> settings, all I see are volume, balance, and whether or not to listen
-->> while recording.
-->>
-->>
-->> Thanks.
-->>
-->>
-->> Don Roberts
-->>
-->>
-->> On 6/2/2020 8:23 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
-->>> Hello,
-->>>
-->>> It sounds like you are mixing sample rates. Check that every listing
-->>> matches. whether it be 44,100 or whatever, the hardware can handle.
-->>>
-->>> Regards
-->>>> On 2 Jun 2020, at 04:01, Donald Roberts
-->>>> <donald_roberts_99@...> wrote:
-->>>>
-->>>> I have two PCs, each of which is running Windows 10 version 1909. 
-->>>> The HP has the problem, the Dell does not.  I usually use
-->>>> Window-eyes 9.5.4,  but use Jaws 18 when W E encounters an issue,
-->>>> though I am confident this is not relevant to my current issue.
-->>>>
-->>>>
-->>>>
-->>>> There are times when I wish to record a stream from the internet.
-->>>> So I fire up Total Recorder and set the source selection to stereo
-->>>> mix, having first gone into the sound card settings to make sure
-->>>> that stereo mix is selected.  But when I attempt to record, the
-->>>> sound is recorded but plays back at an extremely accelerated rate
-->>>> of speed.  Yes, I know that Total Recorder has a speed adjustment. 
-->>>> So I make sure that it is in the normal position, and to prove
-->>>> this, I play back a recording which was not made from streaming. 
-->>>> And this test recording plays at a normal speed.
-->>>>
-->>>>
-->>>>
-->>>> So in order to investigate further, I change to other recorders
-->>>> including Studio Recorder and Gold Wave, all of which exhibit the
-->>>> problem when I attempt to record a stream. There was a recent
-->>>> thread regarding something called Wave Max.  Unfortunately, I paid
-->>>> no attention to this thread but in retrospect wonder if Wave Max
-->>>> might be an issue.
-->>>>
-->>>>
-->>>>
-->>>> I am hoping that someone on list has encountered this issue and has
-->>>> found a solution.  If so, what is the solution?
-->>>>
-->>>>
-->>>>
-->>>> Thanks.
-->>>>      Don Roberts
-->>>>
-->>>>
-->>>>
-->>>>
-->>> Gena
-->>>
-->>> Call: M0EBP
-->>> DMR ID: 2346259
-->>> Loc: IO83PS
-->>> 73
-->>>
-->>>
-->>>
-->>
-->>
-->>
-->
-->
-->
-->
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Re: Increasing the Speed of a WAV File

Colin Howard
 

Darran,

Pleased it worked for you.

There are other values in the tabs but not altogether sure how these can be
used, maybe more trials experimenting with these setting could produce
better quality sound.

As, no doubt, you have noticed, there are other algorythms available, but I
have found the first one, similarity, gives consistently the best results.

On Thu, 4 Jun 2020 15:51:20 +0100, "Darran Ross via groups.io"
<darran.ross=talktalk.net@groups.io> wrote:

-Many thanks Colin, this worked a treat!
-


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Re: Increasing the Speed of a WAV File

Darran Ross
 

Many thanks Colin, this worked a treat!

Darran

----- Original Message -----
From: "Colin Howard" <Colin@...>
To: <all-audio@groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2020 12:41 PM
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Increasing the Speed of a WAV File


Greetings,

GoldWave's time warp facility will achieve this. Go to menu and effects, to
time warp, go to first preset which is similarity, tab across to specify
change in length or percent, mine is by default set to percent, decide
which you need, tab again and you will see an appropriate value, amend as
desired, tab round to ok, enter, job complete. Suggest try on a small
sample first, if happy, undo and apply to required total of audio.

Be aware, as this is quite a complex algorythm, it may take a fairly long
time and also be aware make several small changes rather than one large
change. Make sure your undo scheme can cope with a largish numbers of
ctrl-z, I have mine set to 15, on my system, the maximum allowed seems to be
20, not sure if this is a GoldWave or system limit. It can be found under
options then go down to file storage, on my system is labelled undo lefels.

I am still using GW V5.70, on both WXP laptop and W7 desktop.

On Wed, 3 Jun 2020 20:05:36 +0100, "Darran Ross via groups.io"
<darran.ross=talktalk.net@groups.io> wrote:

-Hi list.
-
-I've got a folder of wav files that I'd like to increase the speed of
without effecting the pitch.
-
-Can anyone recommend a program to do same?
-
-Thanks to anyone who can help.
-
-Darran
-
-
-
-


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Re: Major problems when attempting to record a stream

Colin Howard
 

Greetings,

here is the message I sent to the group yesterday, to which, Donald, you
neither replied nor acknowledge on list or privately to me.

To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Major problems when attempting to record a stream
From: "Colin Howard" <Colin@...>
Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2020 08:33:46 +0100

Greetings,

I am surprised in TR you are using the stereo mix, I do not for live
streams, I capture the sound off the stream by using background recording.

Then, again, what live streams are you taking?

I can supply you with direct links for all the BBC streams plus a few others
such as The Ride Radio Etc.

Do you know how to use TR's background recording function?

I use it extensively and can take about five streams on the same machine
together and none interfere with each other, maybe I could have more, think
this is rather dependent on my broadband capabilities.

I can have them all set to background mode, meaning I don't hear the
streams, I can go into any and play as it records, stopping play leaves play
at the stop point and resuming picks up. You can wind back or forward but
when you meet the point of recording, play goes back to the start.

If you want more info, please come back privately to me at:

colin@...

I've been using TR now for about ten or maybe even more years, my current
version is V8.3Pro, I do have V8.6Pro but being happy with the older one,
not installed it yet. I use TR on my old WXP laptop and my W7 desktop.

On Mon, 1 Jun 2020 20:01:51 -0700, "Donald Roberts"
<donald_roberts_99@...> wrote:

-I have two PCs, each of which is running Windows 10 version 1909.  The
-HP has the problem, the Dell does not.  I usually use Window-eyes 
-9.5.4,  but use Jaws 18 when W E encounters an issue, though I am
-confident this is not relevant to my current issue.
-
-
-
-There are times when I wish to record a stream from the internet. So I
-fire up Total Recorder and set the source selection to stereo mix,
-having first gone into the sound card settings to make sure that stereo
-mix is selected.  But when I attempt to record, the sound is recorded
-but plays back at an extremely accelerated rate of speed.  Yes, I know
-that Total Recorder has a speed adjustment.  So I make sure that it is
-in the normal position, and to prove this, I play back a recording which
-was not made from streaming.  And this test recording plays at a normal
-speed.
-
-
-
-So in order to investigate further, I change to other recorders
-including Studio Recorder and Gold Wave, all of which exhibit the
-problem when I attempt to record a stream. There was a recent thread
-regarding something called Wave Max.  Unfortunately, I paid no attention
-to this thread but in retrospect wonder if Wave Max might be an issue.
-
-
-
-I am hoping that someone on list has encountered this issue and has
-found a solution.  If so, what is the solution?
-
-
-
-Thanks.
-     Don Roberts


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Re: Trying To Convert File To MP3

Colin Howard
 

Greetings,

I agree, I've converted .mp4 files using my GW V5.70 without problems.

One way in GW to do this is, create a new file and save it to the name and
format required using ctrl+s, delete it's contents, switch to the file you
want to convert, select the whole thing and paste into the other file. Save
the resulting file, this stops at least one unnecessary conversion hence
loss of fidelity.

I've been using GW since V5.12 over about the last fourteen or so years.

On Wed, 3 Jun 2020 16:31:14 -0400, "JOHN RIEHL via groups.io"
<REALMAN02=VERIZON.NET@groups.io> wrote:

-My recommendation is to use goldwave. Tha tprogram will do everything you
are trying to do but much more easily
-
-
------Original Message-----
-From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Georgina Joyce
-Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2020 4:28 PM
-To: all-audio@groups.io
-Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3
-
-Hello,
-
-You are working with 2 lossy formats. You should convert to wav or another
lossless format make your cuts etc then convert to mp3. Because you might
not know it but this is what switch would have been doing in the background
I am guessing that something wasn’t carried across to the mp3 file. This
will cut down on the number of downward conversions. Which is important
because each conversion further detail is lost, hence their name lossy
formats.
-
-HTH
-
-Gena
-> On 3 Jun 2020, at 21:14, Tom Kaufman <tomcat53@...> wrote:
->
-> Hello list: Am attempting to convert an MP4 file to MP3; here's what
-> is
-> happening: I am using the program Switch to convert this MP4 file to
-> an MP3 file, so I then can running it through MP3 Direct Cut to trim
-> some parts off! However, while I have managed to convert to MP3, then
-> I find I have no file.at least, the file isn't playing in Winamp; nor
-> will it play in MP3 Direct Cut! What is it I am missing? An doing
-> this for a friend who needs this, so am hoping I can get a solution to
this one!
->
-> Thanks,
->
-> Tom Kaufman
->
->
->
->
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-DMR ID: 2346259
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Re: Major problems when attempting to record a stream

Colin Howard
 

Donald,

I find it unbelievable you've not managed to sort this speed problem, I sent
you concise and clear instructions how to go about it in GoldWave, did you
ever receive them?

If not, I'll look up the original post again and resend to the list.

On Wed, 3 Jun 2020 07:40:04 -0700, "Donald Roberts"
<donald_roberts_99@...> wrote:

-Studio Recorder works well with any screen reader.  I usually use
-Window-Eyes, but Jaws also works very well with it.
-
-
-Don Roberts
-
-
-On 6/3/2020 4:40 AM, stewartross via groups.io wrote:
-> is studio recorder jaws user friendly?
-> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donald Roberts"
-> <donald_roberts_99@...>
-> To: <all-audio@groups.io>
-> Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2020 7:44 PM
-> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Major problems when attempting to record a
-> stream
->
->
->> Thank you so much, Georgina, for your prompt response. What you
->> suggest makes sense. But suggest places to check. For example, I know
->> how to check sample rates in the various recording programs such as
->> Total Recorder, GoldWave, and Studio Recorder; but where would I
->> check sample rate settings in the sound card? When I look at those
->> settings, all I see are volume, balance, and whether or not to listen
->> while recording.
->>
->>
->> Thanks.
->>
->>
->> Don Roberts
->>
->>
->> On 6/2/2020 8:23 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
->>> Hello,
->>>
->>> It sounds like you are mixing sample rates. Check that every listing
->>> matches. whether it be 44,100 or whatever, the hardware can handle.
->>>
->>> Regards
->>>> On 2 Jun 2020, at 04:01, Donald Roberts
->>>> <donald_roberts_99@...> wrote:
->>>>
->>>> I have two PCs, each of which is running Windows 10 version 1909. 
->>>> The HP has the problem, the Dell does not.  I usually use
->>>> Window-eyes 9.5.4,  but use Jaws 18 when W E encounters an issue,
->>>> though I am confident this is not relevant to my current issue.
->>>>
->>>>
->>>>
->>>> There are times when I wish to record a stream from the internet.
->>>> So I fire up Total Recorder and set the source selection to stereo
->>>> mix, having first gone into the sound card settings to make sure
->>>> that stereo mix is selected.  But when I attempt to record, the
->>>> sound is recorded but plays back at an extremely accelerated rate
->>>> of speed.  Yes, I know that Total Recorder has a speed adjustment. 
->>>> So I make sure that it is in the normal position, and to prove
->>>> this, I play back a recording which was not made from streaming. 
->>>> And this test recording plays at a normal speed.
->>>>
->>>>
->>>>
->>>> So in order to investigate further, I change to other recorders
->>>> including Studio Recorder and Gold Wave, all of which exhibit the
->>>> problem when I attempt to record a stream. There was a recent
->>>> thread regarding something called Wave Max.  Unfortunately, I paid
->>>> no attention to this thread but in retrospect wonder if Wave Max
->>>> might be an issue.
->>>>
->>>>
->>>>
->>>> I am hoping that someone on list has encountered this issue and has
->>>> found a solution.  If so, what is the solution?
->>>>
->>>>
->>>>
->>>> Thanks.
->>>>      Don Roberts
->>>>
->>>>
->>>>
->>>>
->>> Gena
->>>
->>> Call: M0EBP
->>> DMR ID: 2346259
->>> Loc: IO83PS
->>> 73
->>>
->>>
->>>
->>
->>
->>
->
->
->
->
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Re: Increasing the Speed of a WAV File

Colin Howard
 

Greetings,

GoldWave's time warp facility will achieve this. Go to menu and effects, to
time warp, go to first preset which is similarity, tab across to specify
change in length or percent, mine is by default set to percent, decide
which you need, tab again and you will see an appropriate value, amend as
desired, tab round to ok, enter, job complete. Suggest try on a small
sample first, if happy, undo and apply to required total of audio.

Be aware, as this is quite a complex algorythm, it may take a fairly long
time and also be aware make several small changes rather than one large
change. Make sure your undo scheme can cope with a largish numbers of
ctrl-z, I have mine set to 15, on my system, the maximum allowed seems to be
20, not sure if this is a GoldWave or system limit. It can be found under
options then go down to file storage, on my system is labelled undo lefels.

I am still using GW V5.70, on both WXP laptop and W7 desktop.

On Wed, 3 Jun 2020 20:05:36 +0100, "Darran Ross via groups.io"
<darran.ross=talktalk.net@groups.io> wrote:

-Hi list.
-
-I've got a folder of wav files that I'd like to increase the speed of
without effecting the pitch.
-
-Can anyone recommend a program to do same?
-
-Thanks to anyone who can help.
-
-Darran
-
-
-
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Re: Trying To Convert File To MP3

Barry Chapman
 

I understood he was trying to convert an M4A file. I don't have any M4P files to try it with.

Regards,
Barry Chapman

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of DAVID
Sent: Thursday, 4 June 2020 4:13 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3

Hey barry I tried that but it did not work for me.
Maybe it doh work with m4p files.


-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Barry Chapman
Sent: Thursday, 4 June 2020 1:26 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3

Hi Tom,

To get to the Winamp disk writer plugin:

1. Launch Winamp and open the file you wish to convert.
2. Press v to stop it playing.
3. Press ctrl+p for Winamp preferences.
4. Up or down arrow to plugins. If it is closed, press right arrow to open it.
5. Down arrow to output.
6. Press tab twice. You will probably be on Nullsoft DirectSound Output.
7. Down arrow to Nullsoft Disk Writer and press enter.
8. Press x and the file will be converted to wav rather than playing. By default, the converted file will be in your music folder under users and your name with a number such as 01 at the start. This can be changed in the plugin configuration.
9. Follow the steps above again to set the output plugin back to Nullsoft DirectSound Output. Otherwise, files will continue to be copied rather than played.

If you need any more detail, please let me know.

Regards,
Barry Chapman

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman
Sent: Thursday, 4 June 2020 1:24 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3

Barry: I did try converting the original M4A (which does play in Winamp) to WAV just now; no soap! It won't play! But tell me about this Winamp Disk Writer output and how I either "get to it" or install it or whatever I need to do? As I said in an earlier reply, I don't claim to know a whole lot about this kind of stuff; am trying to do a favor for a friend and am having no luck! If it's as simple as using this Winamp Disk Writer to convert it to WAV; then converting that Wav file to an MP3, then I should be able to do what I want to do, which is to take the part of the file that my friend doesn't need away. First, I need to know more about this Winamp Disk Writer Output plugin!

Thanks,
Tom Kaufman

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Barry Chapman
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 10:30 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3

Hi Tom,

If the original plays in Winamp, have you tried converting it to Wav using the Winamp Disk Writer output plugin. That works for me. You can then convert the wav to mp3 with Switch.

Regards,
Barry Chapman

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman
Sent: Thursday, 4 June 2020 11:19 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3

Georgina: I wasn't trying to criticize you (or anyone) am just simply stating what I have done so far! As for Error messages from Winamp, none; only thing is, Winamp isn't playing the converted version of the file. Admittedly, I am not as well-versed about these things as many who are on this list. However, to me, it seemed like converting the file in qu4estion to MP3; then using MP3 Direct Cut (a program that I have had good luck with for a long time now) seemed to be the way to go. But that's why I put this query here in hopes someone could point me in the right direction! I will check the bit rate of the convert file; for now, I have seen that the original file (non-converted) is 53KPBS. So next, I will look at the converted file and see what that says! Again...I'm not being critical of your assessments and apologize if I came off that way! Am sure that you (along with others on this list) have a much better understanding of these things than I do!
Tom Kaufman

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Georgina Joyce
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 6:43 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3

Hello Tom,

I was only trying to bring your attention to what it is you are doing and attempting to do. I don’t know these utilities that are obviously been created to simplify the process. You appear to be looking for a quick no fuss utility.

I cannot guess why your workflow didn’t work on this occasion. The only way you would establish why the file became corrupted. Or maybe it didn’t maybe there is something that has been done to the file that Winamp doesn’t like. Have you tried another player? Have you looked at the file-size to see how it differs from the original. There are so many things with what you are doing to the files that could cause Winamp to refuse to play it. What do Winamp error messages say.

Have you considered getting a copy of something like audacity and learning that? It will be a lot easier with such a program than taking the easy way of using these little utilities that mangle your files. But if they work for you sometimes and you are happy with that then fine. But you will have to investigate why it didn’t work this time. I don’t think anyone here could guess what has happened. Unless they understand how these utilities work and have been using these utilities for some time to know their little quirks. Have you wrote to the program suppliers for support?
Good luck,

On 3 Jun 2020, at 23:09, Tom Kaufman <tomcat53@...> wrote:

To Tony and Georgina: I forgot to mention that Zoom does create more than one file; one of the files is named Audio_Only; if I'm not mistaken, this particular file is the M4A and will play in Winamp! But if again, if I convert to MP3, then Winamp absolutely will not play it in its converted form!
Tom Kaufman

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of
Tony
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 5:53 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3

I have used Audio Converter Plus for M4a files. It will alsw convert M4B files if you rename them to M4A.

I also use Free M4A to MP3 Converter. It can split M4B books into chapter files.

Both can reduce the bit rate if the files are too large as long as you don't go too far and lose sound quality.

Tony

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of
Tom Kaufman
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 3:50 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3

Okay...I tried converting to WAV; same result: file won't play! One of the files in this group is "audio_only; this file in its original form is an M4A file. I need to make an MP3 file so I can then run it through MP3 Direct cut and take the unwanted stuff out! Can this not be done? I know that MP3 files definitely can be cut as I've done it often enough! So what is it I'm doing wrong here?
Thanks,
Tom Kaufman

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of
Georgina Joyce
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 4:28 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3

Hello,

You are working with 2 lossy formats. You should convert to wav or another lossless format make your cuts etc then convert to mp3. Because you might not know it but this is what switch would have been doing in the background. I am guessing that something wasn’t carried across to the mp3 file. This will cut down on the number of downward conversions. Which is important because each conversion further detail is lost, hence their name lossy formats.

HTH

Gena
On 3 Jun 2020, at 21:14, Tom Kaufman <tomcat53@...> wrote:

Hello list: Am attempting to convert an MP4 file to MP3; here's what
is
happening: I am using the program Switch to convert this MP4 file to
an MP3 file, so I then can running it through MP3 Direct Cut to trim
some parts off! However, while I have managed to convert to MP3,
then I find I have no file.at least, the file isn't playing in
Winamp; nor will it play in MP3 Direct Cut! What is it I am missing?
An doing this for a friend who needs this, so am hoping I can get a solution to this one!

Thanks,

Tom Kaufman



Gena

Call: M0EBP
DMR ID: 2346259
Loc: IO83PS
73















Gena

Call: M0EBP
DMR ID: 2346259
Loc: IO83PS
73


Re: Trying To Convert File To MP3

DAVID
 

Hey barry I tried that but it did not work for me.
Maybe it doh work with m4p files.

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Barry Chapman
Sent: Thursday, 4 June 2020 1:26 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3

Hi Tom,

To get to the Winamp disk writer plugin:

1. Launch Winamp and open the file you wish to convert.
2. Press v to stop it playing.
3. Press ctrl+p for Winamp preferences.
4. Up or down arrow to plugins. If it is closed, press right arrow to open it.
5. Down arrow to output.
6. Press tab twice. You will probably be on Nullsoft DirectSound Output.
7. Down arrow to Nullsoft Disk Writer and press enter.
8. Press x and the file will be converted to wav rather than playing. By default, the converted file will be in your music folder under users and your name with a number such as 01 at the start. This can be changed in the plugin configuration.
9. Follow the steps above again to set the output plugin back to Nullsoft DirectSound Output. Otherwise, files will continue to be copied rather than played.

If you need any more detail, please let me know.

Regards,
Barry Chapman

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman
Sent: Thursday, 4 June 2020 1:24 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3

Barry: I did try converting the original M4A (which does play in Winamp) to WAV just now; no soap! It won't play! But tell me about this Winamp Disk Writer output and how I either "get to it" or install it or whatever I need to do? As I said in an earlier reply, I don't claim to know a whole lot about this kind of stuff; am trying to do a favor for a friend and am having no luck! If it's as simple as using this Winamp Disk Writer to convert it to WAV; then converting that Wav file to an MP3, then I should be able to do what I want to do, which is to take the part of the file that my friend doesn't need away. First, I need to know more about this Winamp Disk Writer Output plugin!

Thanks,
Tom Kaufman

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Barry Chapman
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 10:30 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3

Hi Tom,

If the original plays in Winamp, have you tried converting it to Wav using the Winamp Disk Writer output plugin. That works for me. You can then convert the wav to mp3 with Switch.

Regards,
Barry Chapman

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman
Sent: Thursday, 4 June 2020 11:19 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3

Georgina: I wasn't trying to criticize you (or anyone) am just simply stating what I have done so far! As for Error messages from Winamp, none; only thing is, Winamp isn't playing the converted version of the file. Admittedly, I am not as well-versed about these things as many who are on this list. However, to me, it seemed like converting the file in qu4estion to MP3; then using MP3 Direct Cut (a program that I have had good luck with for a long time now) seemed to be the way to go. But that's why I put this query here in hopes someone could point me in the right direction! I will check the bit rate of the convert file; for now, I have seen that the original file (non-converted) is 53KPBS. So next, I will look at the converted file and see what that says! Again...I'm not being critical of your assessments and apologize if I came off that way! Am sure that you (along with others on this list) have a much better understanding of these things than I do!
Tom Kaufman

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Georgina Joyce
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 6:43 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3

Hello Tom,

I was only trying to bring your attention to what it is you are doing and attempting to do. I don’t know these utilities that are obviously been created to simplify the process. You appear to be looking for a quick no fuss utility.

I cannot guess why your workflow didn’t work on this occasion. The only way you would establish why the file became corrupted. Or maybe it didn’t maybe there is something that has been done to the file that Winamp doesn’t like. Have you tried another player? Have you looked at the file-size to see how it differs from the original. There are so many things with what you are doing to the files that could cause Winamp to refuse to play it. What do Winamp error messages say.

Have you considered getting a copy of something like audacity and learning that? It will be a lot easier with such a program than taking the easy way of using these little utilities that mangle your files. But if they work for you sometimes and you are happy with that then fine. But you will have to investigate why it didn’t work this time. I don’t think anyone here could guess what has happened. Unless they understand how these utilities work and have been using these utilities for some time to know their little quirks. Have you wrote to the program suppliers for support?
Good luck,

On 3 Jun 2020, at 23:09, Tom Kaufman <tomcat53@...> wrote:

To Tony and Georgina: I forgot to mention that Zoom does create more than one file; one of the files is named Audio_Only; if I'm not mistaken, this particular file is the M4A and will play in Winamp! But if again, if I convert to MP3, then Winamp absolutely will not play it in its converted form!
Tom Kaufman

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of
Tony
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 5:53 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3

I have used Audio Converter Plus for M4a files. It will alsw convert M4B files if you rename them to M4A.

I also use Free M4A to MP3 Converter. It can split M4B books into chapter files.

Both can reduce the bit rate if the files are too large as long as you don't go too far and lose sound quality.

Tony

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of
Tom Kaufman
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 3:50 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3

Okay...I tried converting to WAV; same result: file won't play! One of the files in this group is "audio_only; this file in its original form is an M4A file. I need to make an MP3 file so I can then run it through MP3 Direct cut and take the unwanted stuff out! Can this not be done? I know that MP3 files definitely can be cut as I've done it often enough! So what is it I'm doing wrong here?
Thanks,
Tom Kaufman

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of
Georgina Joyce
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 4:28 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3

Hello,

You are working with 2 lossy formats. You should convert to wav or another lossless format make your cuts etc then convert to mp3. Because you might not know it but this is what switch would have been doing in the background. I am guessing that something wasn’t carried across to the mp3 file. This will cut down on the number of downward conversions. Which is important because each conversion further detail is lost, hence their name lossy formats.

HTH

Gena
On 3 Jun 2020, at 21:14, Tom Kaufman <tomcat53@...> wrote:

Hello list: Am attempting to convert an MP4 file to MP3; here's what
is
happening: I am using the program Switch to convert this MP4 file to
an MP3 file, so I then can running it through MP3 Direct Cut to trim
some parts off! However, while I have managed to convert to MP3,
then I find I have no file.at least, the file isn't playing in
Winamp; nor will it play in MP3 Direct Cut! What is it I am missing?
An doing this for a friend who needs this, so am hoping I can get a solution to this one!

Thanks,

Tom Kaufman



Gena

Call: M0EBP
DMR ID: 2346259
Loc: IO83PS
73















Gena

Call: M0EBP
DMR ID: 2346259
Loc: IO83PS
73


Re: Trying To Convert File To MP3

Barry Chapman
 

Hi Tom,

To get to the Winamp disk writer plugin:

1. Launch Winamp and open the file you wish to convert.
2. Press v to stop it playing.
3. Press ctrl+p for Winamp preferences.
4. Up or down arrow to plugins. If it is closed, press right arrow to open it.
5. Down arrow to output.
6. Press tab twice. You will probably be on Nullsoft DirectSound Output.
7. Down arrow to Nullsoft Disk Writer and press enter.
8. Press x and the file will be converted to wav rather than playing. By default, the converted file will be in your music folder under users and your name with a number such as 01 at the start. This can be changed in the plugin configuration.
9. Follow the steps above again to set the output plugin back to Nullsoft DirectSound Output. Otherwise, files will continue to be copied rather than played.

If you need any more detail, please let me know.

Regards,
Barry Chapman

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman
Sent: Thursday, 4 June 2020 1:24 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3

Barry: I did try converting the original M4A (which does play in Winamp) to WAV just now; no soap! It won't play! But tell me about this Winamp Disk Writer output and how I either "get to it" or install it or whatever I need to do? As I said in an earlier reply, I don't claim to know a whole lot about this kind of stuff; am trying to do a favor for a friend and am having no luck! If it's as simple as using this Winamp Disk Writer to convert it to WAV; then converting that Wav file to an MP3, then I should be able to do what I want to do, which is to take the part of the file that my friend doesn't need away. First, I need to know more about this Winamp Disk Writer Output plugin!

Thanks,
Tom Kaufman

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Barry Chapman
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 10:30 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3

Hi Tom,

If the original plays in Winamp, have you tried converting it to Wav using the Winamp Disk Writer output plugin. That works for me. You can then convert the wav to mp3 with Switch.

Regards,
Barry Chapman

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman
Sent: Thursday, 4 June 2020 11:19 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3

Georgina: I wasn't trying to criticize you (or anyone) am just simply stating what I have done so far! As for Error messages from Winamp, none; only thing is, Winamp isn't playing the converted version of the file. Admittedly, I am not as well-versed about these things as many who are on this list. However, to me, it seemed like converting the file in qu4estion to MP3; then using MP3 Direct Cut (a program that I have had good luck with for a long time now) seemed to be the way to go. But that's why I put this query here in hopes someone could point me in the right direction! I will check the bit rate of the convert file; for now, I have seen that the original file (non-converted) is 53KPBS. So next, I will look at the converted file and see what that says! Again...I'm not being critical of your assessments and apologize if I came off that way! Am sure that you (along with others on this list) have a much better understanding of these things than I do!
Tom Kaufman

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Georgina Joyce
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 6:43 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3

Hello Tom,

I was only trying to bring your attention to what it is you are doing and attempting to do. I don’t know these utilities that are obviously been created to simplify the process. You appear to be looking for a quick no fuss utility.

I cannot guess why your workflow didn’t work on this occasion. The only way you would establish why the file became corrupted. Or maybe it didn’t maybe there is something that has been done to the file that Winamp doesn’t like. Have you tried another player? Have you looked at the file-size to see how it differs from the original. There are so many things with what you are doing to the files that could cause Winamp to refuse to play it. What do Winamp error messages say.

Have you considered getting a copy of something like audacity and learning that? It will be a lot easier with such a program than taking the easy way of using these little utilities that mangle your files. But if they work for you sometimes and you are happy with that then fine. But you will have to investigate why it didn’t work this time. I don’t think anyone here could guess what has happened. Unless they understand how these utilities work and have been using these utilities for some time to know their little quirks. Have you wrote to the program suppliers for support?
Good luck,

On 3 Jun 2020, at 23:09, Tom Kaufman <tomcat53@...> wrote:

To Tony and Georgina: I forgot to mention that Zoom does create more than one file; one of the files is named Audio_Only; if I'm not mistaken, this particular file is the M4A and will play in Winamp! But if again, if I convert to MP3, then Winamp absolutely will not play it in its converted form!
Tom Kaufman

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Tony
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 5:53 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3

I have used Audio Converter Plus for M4a files. It will alsw convert M4B files if you rename them to M4A.

I also use Free M4A to MP3 Converter. It can split M4B books into chapter files.

Both can reduce the bit rate if the files are too large as long as you don't go too far and lose sound quality.

Tony

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From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 3:50 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3

Okay...I tried converting to WAV; same result: file won't play! One of the files in this group is "audio_only; this file in its original form is an M4A file. I need to make an MP3 file so I can then run it through MP3 Direct cut and take the unwanted stuff out! Can this not be done? I know that MP3 files definitely can be cut as I've done it often enough! So what is it I'm doing wrong here?
Thanks,
Tom Kaufman

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Georgina Joyce
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 4:28 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3

Hello,

You are working with 2 lossy formats. You should convert to wav or another lossless format make your cuts etc then convert to mp3. Because you might not know it but this is what switch would have been doing in the background. I am guessing that something wasn’t carried across to the mp3 file. This will cut down on the number of downward conversions. Which is important because each conversion further detail is lost, hence their name lossy formats.

HTH

Gena
On 3 Jun 2020, at 21:14, Tom Kaufman <tomcat53@...> wrote:

Hello list: Am attempting to convert an MP4 file to MP3; here's what is
happening: I am using the program Switch to convert this MP4 file to an MP3
file, so I then can running it through MP3 Direct Cut to trim some parts
off! However, while I have managed to convert to MP3, then I find I have no
file.at least, the file isn't playing in Winamp; nor will it play in MP3
Direct Cut! What is it I am missing? An doing this for a friend who needs
this, so am hoping I can get a solution to this one!

Thanks,

Tom Kaufman



Gena

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