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Re: Trying To Convert File To MP3
JM Casey
My winamp (5.666) will play most .m4a files. I have downloaded a lot of plugins for it over the years to give it the ability to play different formats though and I can't recall if that was one. Maybe search around for winamp .m4a plugins on google if you want this to work.
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From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: June 3, 2020 11:24 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3 Barry: I did try converting the original M4A (which does play in Winamp) to WAV just now; no soap! It won't play! But tell me about this Winamp Disk Writer output and how I either "get to it" or install it or whatever I need to do? As I said in an earlier reply, I don't claim to know a whole lot about this kind of stuff; am trying to do a favor for a friend and am having no luck! If it's as simple as using this Winamp Disk Writer to convert it to WAV; then converting that Wav file to an MP3, then I should be able to do what I want to do, which is to take the part of the file that my friend doesn't need away. First, I need to know more about this Winamp Disk Writer Output plugin! Thanks, Tom Kaufman -----Original Message----- From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Barry Chapman Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 10:30 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3 Hi Tom, If the original plays in Winamp, have you tried converting it to Wav using the Winamp Disk Writer output plugin. That works for me. You can then convert the wav to mp3 with Switch. Regards, Barry Chapman -----Original Message----- From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: Thursday, 4 June 2020 11:19 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3 Georgina: I wasn't trying to criticize you (or anyone) am just simply stating what I have done so far! As for Error messages from Winamp, none; only thing is, Winamp isn't playing the converted version of the file. Admittedly, I am not as well-versed about these things as many who are on this list. However, to me, it seemed like converting the file in qu4estion to MP3; then using MP3 Direct Cut (a program that I have had good luck with for a long time now) seemed to be the way to go. But that's why I put this query here in hopes someone could point me in the right direction! I will check the bit rate of the convert file; for now, I have seen that the original file (non-converted) is 53KPBS. So next, I will look at the converted file and see what that says! Again...I'm not being critical of your assessments and apologize if I came off that way! Am sure that you (along with others on this list) have a much better understanding of these things than I do! Tom Kaufman -----Original Message----- From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Georgina Joyce Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 6:43 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3 Hello Tom, I was only trying to bring your attention to what it is you are doing and attempting to do. I don’t know these utilities that are obviously been created to simplify the process. You appear to be looking for a quick no fuss utility. I cannot guess why your workflow didn’t work on this occasion. The only way you would establish why the file became corrupted. Or maybe it didn’t maybe there is something that has been done to the file that Winamp doesn’t like. Have you tried another player? Have you looked at the file-size to see how it differs from the original. There are so many things with what you are doing to the files that could cause Winamp to refuse to play it. What do Winamp error messages say. Have you considered getting a copy of something like audacity and learning that? It will be a lot easier with such a program than taking the easy way of using these little utilities that mangle your files. But if they work for you sometimes and you are happy with that then fine. But you will have to investigate why it didn’t work this time. I don’t think anyone here could guess what has happened. Unless they understand how these utilities work and have been using these utilities for some time to know their little quirks. Have you wrote to the program suppliers for support? Good luck, On 3 Jun 2020, at 23:09, Tom Kaufman <tomcat53@comcast.net> wrote:Gena Call: M0EBP DMR ID: 2346259 Loc: IO83PS 73
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Re: Trying To Convert File To MP3
JM Casey
Sounds like you got it solved. Just a bit of clarification of my own though; an m3u file is nothing more than a text file that contains a playlist.
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From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: June 4, 2020 1:56 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3 Hello list: Just to try and clarify things a little, one of the files is an Mp4 (not M4P) this Zoom client (when you use it to record meetings and such) apparently gives you three copies of a given recording: an MP4, an M4A and an M3U file. So I am trying to create a situation (and I'm going to try Barry's suggestion in a little while to see if what he recommends will work for me) just wanted to jump in and clarify what I am working with. Just to reiterate: the files do seem to convert; problem is that the converted files won't ply; not in Winamp or any other player I have tried, including Windows Media or VLC! Tom Kaufman -----Original Message----- From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of DAVID Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2020 2:13 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3 Hey barry I tried that but it did not work for me. Maybe it doh work with m4p files. -----Original Message----- From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Barry Chapman Sent: Thursday, 4 June 2020 1:26 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3 Hi Tom, To get to the Winamp disk writer plugin: 1. Launch Winamp and open the file you wish to convert. 2. Press v to stop it playing. 3. Press ctrl+p for Winamp preferences. 4. Up or down arrow to plugins. If it is closed, press right arrow to open it. 5. Down arrow to output. 6. Press tab twice. You will probably be on Nullsoft DirectSound Output. 7. Down arrow to Nullsoft Disk Writer and press enter. 8. Press x and the file will be converted to wav rather than playing. By default, the converted file will be in your music folder under users and your name with a number such as 01 at the start. This can be changed in the plugin configuration. 9. Follow the steps above again to set the output plugin back to Nullsoft DirectSound Output. Otherwise, files will continue to be copied rather than played. If you need any more detail, please let me know. Regards, Barry Chapman -----Original Message----- From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: Thursday, 4 June 2020 1:24 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3 Barry: I did try converting the original M4A (which does play in Winamp) to WAV just now; no soap! It won't play! But tell me about this Winamp Disk Writer output and how I either "get to it" or install it or whatever I need to do? As I said in an earlier reply, I don't claim to know a whole lot about this kind of stuff; am trying to do a favor for a friend and am having no luck! If it's as simple as using this Winamp Disk Writer to convert it to WAV; then converting that Wav file to an MP3, then I should be able to do what I want to do, which is to take the part of the file that my friend doesn't need away. First, I need to know more about this Winamp Disk Writer Output plugin! Thanks, Tom Kaufman -----Original Message----- From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Barry Chapman Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 10:30 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3 Hi Tom, If the original plays in Winamp, have you tried converting it to Wav using the Winamp Disk Writer output plugin. That works for me. You can then convert the wav to mp3 with Switch. Regards, Barry Chapman -----Original Message----- From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: Thursday, 4 June 2020 11:19 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3 Georgina: I wasn't trying to criticize you (or anyone) am just simply stating what I have done so far! As for Error messages from Winamp, none; only thing is, Winamp isn't playing the converted version of the file. Admittedly, I am not as well-versed about these things as many who are on this list. However, to me, it seemed like converting the file in qu4estion to MP3; then using MP3 Direct Cut (a program that I have had good luck with for a long time now) seemed to be the way to go. But that's why I put this query here in hopes someone could point me in the right direction! I will check the bit rate of the convert file; for now, I have seen that the original file (non-converted) is 53KPBS. So next, I will look at the converted file and see what that says! Again...I'm not being critical of your assessments and apologize if I came off that way! Am sure that you (along with others on this list) have a much better understanding of these things than I do! Tom Kaufman -----Original Message----- From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Georgina Joyce Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 6:43 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3 Hello Tom, I was only trying to bring your attention to what it is you are doing and attempting to do. I don’t know these utilities that are obviously been created to simplify the process. You appear to be looking for a quick no fuss utility. I cannot guess why your workflow didn’t work on this occasion. The only way you would establish why the file became corrupted. Or maybe it didn’t maybe there is something that has been done to the file that Winamp doesn’t like. Have you tried another player? Have you looked at the file-size to see how it differs from the original. There are so many things with what you are doing to the files that could cause Winamp to refuse to play it. What do Winamp error messages say. Have you considered getting a copy of something like audacity and learning that? It will be a lot easier with such a program than taking the easy way of using these little utilities that mangle your files. But if they work for you sometimes and you are happy with that then fine. But you will have to investigate why it didn’t work this time. I don’t think anyone here could guess what has happened. Unless they understand how these utilities work and have been using these utilities for some time to know their little quirks. Have you wrote to the program suppliers for support? Good luck, On 3 Jun 2020, at 23:09, Tom Kaufman <tomcat53@comcast.net> wrote:Gena Call: M0EBP DMR ID: 2346259 Loc: IO83PS 73
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Re: Trying To Convert File To MP3
Barry Chapman
Thanks Tom. I'm pleased it worked.
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From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: Friday, 5 June 2020 7:32 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3 Hi Barry and list: You're the man; I did as you instructed and (thanks to you) was able to do with that file what I wanted to do! Thanks to you and to all on this list for responses and suggestions! Tom Kaufman -----Original Message----- From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Barry Chapman Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2020 1:26 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3 Hi Tom, To get to the Winamp disk writer plugin: 1. Launch Winamp and open the file you wish to convert. 2. Press v to stop it playing. 3. Press ctrl+p for Winamp preferences. 4. Up or down arrow to plugins. If it is closed, press right arrow to open it. 5. Down arrow to output. 6. Press tab twice. You will probably be on Nullsoft DirectSound Output. 7. Down arrow to Nullsoft Disk Writer and press enter. 8. Press x and the file will be converted to wav rather than playing. By default, the converted file will be in your music folder under users and your name with a number such as 01 at the start. This can be changed in the plugin configuration. 9. Follow the steps above again to set the output plugin back to Nullsoft DirectSound Output. Otherwise, files will continue to be copied rather than played. If you need any more detail, please let me know. Regards, Barry Chapman -----Original Message----- From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: Thursday, 4 June 2020 1:24 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3 Barry: I did try converting the original M4A (which does play in Winamp) to WAV just now; no soap! It won't play! But tell me about this Winamp Disk Writer output and how I either "get to it" or install it or whatever I need to do? As I said in an earlier reply, I don't claim to know a whole lot about this kind of stuff; am trying to do a favor for a friend and am having no luck! If it's as simple as using this Winamp Disk Writer to convert it to WAV; then converting that Wav file to an MP3, then I should be able to do what I want to do, which is to take the part of the file that my friend doesn't need away. First, I need to know more about this Winamp Disk Writer Output plugin! Thanks, Tom Kaufman -----Original Message----- From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Barry Chapman Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 10:30 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3 Hi Tom, If the original plays in Winamp, have you tried converting it to Wav using the Winamp Disk Writer output plugin. That works for me. You can then convert the wav to mp3 with Switch. Regards, Barry Chapman -----Original Message----- From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: Thursday, 4 June 2020 11:19 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3 Georgina: I wasn't trying to criticize you (or anyone) am just simply stating what I have done so far! As for Error messages from Winamp, none; only thing is, Winamp isn't playing the converted version of the file. Admittedly, I am not as well-versed about these things as many who are on this list. However, to me, it seemed like converting the file in qu4estion to MP3; then using MP3 Direct Cut (a program that I have had good luck with for a long time now) seemed to be the way to go. But that's why I put this query here in hopes someone could point me in the right direction! I will check the bit rate of the convert file; for now, I have seen that the original file (non-converted) is 53KPBS. So next, I will look at the converted file and see what that says! Again...I'm not being critical of your assessments and apologize if I came off that way! Am sure that you (along with others on this list) have a much better understanding of these things than I do! Tom Kaufman -----Original Message----- From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Georgina Joyce Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 6:43 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3 Hello Tom, I was only trying to bring your attention to what it is you are doing and attempting to do. I don’t know these utilities that are obviously been created to simplify the process. You appear to be looking for a quick no fuss utility. I cannot guess why your workflow didn’t work on this occasion. The only way you would establish why the file became corrupted. Or maybe it didn’t maybe there is something that has been done to the file that Winamp doesn’t like. Have you tried another player? Have you looked at the file-size to see how it differs from the original. There are so many things with what you are doing to the files that could cause Winamp to refuse to play it. What do Winamp error messages say. Have you considered getting a copy of something like audacity and learning that? It will be a lot easier with such a program than taking the easy way of using these little utilities that mangle your files. But if they work for you sometimes and you are happy with that then fine. But you will have to investigate why it didn’t work this time. I don’t think anyone here could guess what has happened. Unless they understand how these utilities work and have been using these utilities for some time to know their little quirks. Have you wrote to the program suppliers for support? Good luck, On 3 Jun 2020, at 23:09, Tom Kaufman <tomcat53@comcast.net> wrote:Gena Call: M0EBP DMR ID: 2346259 Loc: IO83PS 73
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Re: Trying To Convert File To MP3
Tom Kaufman
Hi Barry and list: You're the man; I did as you instructed and (thanks to you) was able to do with that file what I wanted to do! Thanks to you and to all on this list for responses and suggestions!
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From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Barry Chapman Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2020 1:26 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3 Hi Tom, To get to the Winamp disk writer plugin: 1. Launch Winamp and open the file you wish to convert. 2. Press v to stop it playing. 3. Press ctrl+p for Winamp preferences. 4. Up or down arrow to plugins. If it is closed, press right arrow to open it. 5. Down arrow to output. 6. Press tab twice. You will probably be on Nullsoft DirectSound Output. 7. Down arrow to Nullsoft Disk Writer and press enter. 8. Press x and the file will be converted to wav rather than playing. By default, the converted file will be in your music folder under users and your name with a number such as 01 at the start. This can be changed in the plugin configuration. 9. Follow the steps above again to set the output plugin back to Nullsoft DirectSound Output. Otherwise, files will continue to be copied rather than played. If you need any more detail, please let me know. Regards, Barry Chapman -----Original Message----- From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: Thursday, 4 June 2020 1:24 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3 Barry: I did try converting the original M4A (which does play in Winamp) to WAV just now; no soap! It won't play! But tell me about this Winamp Disk Writer output and how I either "get to it" or install it or whatever I need to do? As I said in an earlier reply, I don't claim to know a whole lot about this kind of stuff; am trying to do a favor for a friend and am having no luck! If it's as simple as using this Winamp Disk Writer to convert it to WAV; then converting that Wav file to an MP3, then I should be able to do what I want to do, which is to take the part of the file that my friend doesn't need away. First, I need to know more about this Winamp Disk Writer Output plugin! Thanks, Tom Kaufman -----Original Message----- From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Barry Chapman Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 10:30 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3 Hi Tom, If the original plays in Winamp, have you tried converting it to Wav using the Winamp Disk Writer output plugin. That works for me. You can then convert the wav to mp3 with Switch. Regards, Barry Chapman -----Original Message----- From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: Thursday, 4 June 2020 11:19 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3 Georgina: I wasn't trying to criticize you (or anyone) am just simply stating what I have done so far! As for Error messages from Winamp, none; only thing is, Winamp isn't playing the converted version of the file. Admittedly, I am not as well-versed about these things as many who are on this list. However, to me, it seemed like converting the file in qu4estion to MP3; then using MP3 Direct Cut (a program that I have had good luck with for a long time now) seemed to be the way to go. But that's why I put this query here in hopes someone could point me in the right direction! I will check the bit rate of the convert file; for now, I have seen that the original file (non-converted) is 53KPBS. So next, I will look at the converted file and see what that says! Again...I'm not being critical of your assessments and apologize if I came off that way! Am sure that you (along with others on this list) have a much better understanding of these things than I do! Tom Kaufman -----Original Message----- From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Georgina Joyce Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 6:43 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3 Hello Tom, I was only trying to bring your attention to what it is you are doing and attempting to do. I don’t know these utilities that are obviously been created to simplify the process. You appear to be looking for a quick no fuss utility. I cannot guess why your workflow didn’t work on this occasion. The only way you would establish why the file became corrupted. Or maybe it didn’t maybe there is something that has been done to the file that Winamp doesn’t like. Have you tried another player? Have you looked at the file-size to see how it differs from the original. There are so many things with what you are doing to the files that could cause Winamp to refuse to play it. What do Winamp error messages say. Have you considered getting a copy of something like audacity and learning that? It will be a lot easier with such a program than taking the easy way of using these little utilities that mangle your files. But if they work for you sometimes and you are happy with that then fine. But you will have to investigate why it didn’t work this time. I don’t think anyone here could guess what has happened. Unless they understand how these utilities work and have been using these utilities for some time to know their little quirks. Have you wrote to the program suppliers for support? Good luck, On 3 Jun 2020, at 23:09, Tom Kaufman <tomcat53@comcast.net> wrote:Gena Call: M0EBP DMR ID: 2346259 Loc: IO83PS 73
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Re: Trying To Convert File To MP3
Tom Kaufman
Hello list: Just to try and clarify things a little, one of the files is an Mp4 (not M4P) this Zoom client (when you use it to record meetings and such) apparently gives you three copies of a given recording: an MP4, an M4A and an M3U file. So I am trying to create a situation (and I'm going to try Barry's suggestion in a little while to see if what he recommends will work for me) just wanted to jump in and clarify what I am working with. Just to reiterate: the files do seem to convert; problem is that the converted files won't ply; not in Winamp or any other player I have tried, including Windows Media or VLC!
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From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of DAVID Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2020 2:13 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3 Hey barry I tried that but it did not work for me. Maybe it doh work with m4p files. -----Original Message----- From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Barry Chapman Sent: Thursday, 4 June 2020 1:26 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3 Hi Tom, To get to the Winamp disk writer plugin: 1. Launch Winamp and open the file you wish to convert. 2. Press v to stop it playing. 3. Press ctrl+p for Winamp preferences. 4. Up or down arrow to plugins. If it is closed, press right arrow to open it. 5. Down arrow to output. 6. Press tab twice. You will probably be on Nullsoft DirectSound Output. 7. Down arrow to Nullsoft Disk Writer and press enter. 8. Press x and the file will be converted to wav rather than playing. By default, the converted file will be in your music folder under users and your name with a number such as 01 at the start. This can be changed in the plugin configuration. 9. Follow the steps above again to set the output plugin back to Nullsoft DirectSound Output. Otherwise, files will continue to be copied rather than played. If you need any more detail, please let me know. Regards, Barry Chapman -----Original Message----- From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: Thursday, 4 June 2020 1:24 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3 Barry: I did try converting the original M4A (which does play in Winamp) to WAV just now; no soap! It won't play! But tell me about this Winamp Disk Writer output and how I either "get to it" or install it or whatever I need to do? As I said in an earlier reply, I don't claim to know a whole lot about this kind of stuff; am trying to do a favor for a friend and am having no luck! If it's as simple as using this Winamp Disk Writer to convert it to WAV; then converting that Wav file to an MP3, then I should be able to do what I want to do, which is to take the part of the file that my friend doesn't need away. First, I need to know more about this Winamp Disk Writer Output plugin! Thanks, Tom Kaufman -----Original Message----- From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Barry Chapman Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 10:30 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3 Hi Tom, If the original plays in Winamp, have you tried converting it to Wav using the Winamp Disk Writer output plugin. That works for me. You can then convert the wav to mp3 with Switch. Regards, Barry Chapman -----Original Message----- From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: Thursday, 4 June 2020 11:19 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3 Georgina: I wasn't trying to criticize you (or anyone) am just simply stating what I have done so far! As for Error messages from Winamp, none; only thing is, Winamp isn't playing the converted version of the file. Admittedly, I am not as well-versed about these things as many who are on this list. However, to me, it seemed like converting the file in qu4estion to MP3; then using MP3 Direct Cut (a program that I have had good luck with for a long time now) seemed to be the way to go. But that's why I put this query here in hopes someone could point me in the right direction! I will check the bit rate of the convert file; for now, I have seen that the original file (non-converted) is 53KPBS. So next, I will look at the converted file and see what that says! Again...I'm not being critical of your assessments and apologize if I came off that way! Am sure that you (along with others on this list) have a much better understanding of these things than I do! Tom Kaufman -----Original Message----- From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Georgina Joyce Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 6:43 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3 Hello Tom, I was only trying to bring your attention to what it is you are doing and attempting to do. I don’t know these utilities that are obviously been created to simplify the process. You appear to be looking for a quick no fuss utility. I cannot guess why your workflow didn’t work on this occasion. The only way you would establish why the file became corrupted. Or maybe it didn’t maybe there is something that has been done to the file that Winamp doesn’t like. Have you tried another player? Have you looked at the file-size to see how it differs from the original. There are so many things with what you are doing to the files that could cause Winamp to refuse to play it. What do Winamp error messages say. Have you considered getting a copy of something like audacity and learning that? It will be a lot easier with such a program than taking the easy way of using these little utilities that mangle your files. But if they work for you sometimes and you are happy with that then fine. But you will have to investigate why it didn’t work this time. I don’t think anyone here could guess what has happened. Unless they understand how these utilities work and have been using these utilities for some time to know their little quirks. Have you wrote to the program suppliers for support? Good luck, On 3 Jun 2020, at 23:09, Tom Kaufman <tomcat53@comcast.net> wrote:Gena Call: M0EBP DMR ID: 2346259 Loc: IO83PS 73
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Re: Major problems when attempting to record a stream
Donald Roberts
Sincere thanks for your comprehensive response. Sorry for my delayed response. Yes indeed, Collin, I did receive that message and have saved it for future reference.
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The majority of streams which I record are not musical; therefore, I wasn't concerned about quality, and the stereo mix option suited my needs. You mentioned background recording. Are we talking about something like audio cable? Don Roberts
On 6/4/2020 7:42 AM, Colin Howard wrote:
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Re: Major problems when attempting to record a stream
Colin Howard
Greetings,
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as, no doubt you have noted, not GoldWave, but Total Recorder! Senior moment, too many pieces of software doing similar jobs!
On Thu, 04 Jun 2020 12:45:44 +0100, "Colin Howard" <Colin@pobox.com> wrote:
-Donald, - -I find it unbelievable you've not managed to sort this speed problem, I sent -you concise and clear instructions how to go about it in GoldWave, did you -ever receive them? - -If not, I'll look up the original post again and resend to the list. - -On Wed, 3 Jun 2020 07:40:04 -0700, "Donald Roberts" -<donald_roberts_99@hotmail.com> wrote: - --Studio Recorder works well with any screen reader. I usually use --Window-Eyes, but Jaws also works very well with it. -- -- --Don Roberts -- -- --On 6/3/2020 4:40 AM, stewartross via groups.io wrote: --> is studio recorder jaws user friendly? --> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donald Roberts" --> <donald_roberts_99@hotmail.com> --> To: <all-audio@groups.io> --> Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2020 7:44 PM --> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Major problems when attempting to record a --> stream --> --> -->> Thank you so much, Georgina, for your prompt response. What you -->> suggest makes sense. But suggest places to check. For example, I know -->> how to check sample rates in the various recording programs such as -->> Total Recorder, GoldWave, and Studio Recorder; but where would I -->> check sample rate settings in the sound card? When I look at those -->> settings, all I see are volume, balance, and whether or not to listen -->> while recording. -->> -->> -->> Thanks. -->> -->> -->> Don Roberts -->> -->> -->> On 6/2/2020 8:23 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote: -->>> Hello, -->>> -->>> It sounds like you are mixing sample rates. Check that every listing -->>> matches. whether it be 44,100 or whatever, the hardware can handle. -->>> -->>> Regards -->>>> On 2 Jun 2020, at 04:01, Donald Roberts -->>>> <donald_roberts_99@hotmail.com> wrote: -->>>> -->>>> I have two PCs, each of which is running Windows 10 version 1909. -->>>> The HP has the problem, the Dell does not. I usually use -->>>> Window-eyes 9.5.4, but use Jaws 18 when W E encounters an issue, -->>>> though I am confident this is not relevant to my current issue. -->>>> -->>>> -->>>> -->>>> There are times when I wish to record a stream from the internet. -->>>> So I fire up Total Recorder and set the source selection to stereo -->>>> mix, having first gone into the sound card settings to make sure -->>>> that stereo mix is selected. But when I attempt to record, the -->>>> sound is recorded but plays back at an extremely accelerated rate -->>>> of speed. Yes, I know that Total Recorder has a speed adjustment. -->>>> So I make sure that it is in the normal position, and to prove -->>>> this, I play back a recording which was not made from streaming. -->>>> And this test recording plays at a normal speed. -->>>> -->>>> -->>>> -->>>> So in order to investigate further, I change to other recorders -->>>> including Studio Recorder and Gold Wave, all of which exhibit the -->>>> problem when I attempt to record a stream. There was a recent -->>>> thread regarding something called Wave Max. Unfortunately, I paid -->>>> no attention to this thread but in retrospect wonder if Wave Max -->>>> might be an issue. -->>>> -->>>> -->>>> -->>>> I am hoping that someone on list has encountered this issue and has -->>>> found a solution. If so, what is the solution? -->>>> -->>>> -->>>> -->>>> Thanks. -->>>> Don Roberts -->>>> -->>>> -->>>> -->>>> -->>> Gena -->>> -->>> Call: M0EBP -->>> DMR ID: 2346259 -->>> Loc: IO83PS -->>> 73 -->>> -->>> -->>> -->> -->> -->> --> --> --> --> -- -- - - ---- -This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. -https://www.avg.com - - -
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Re: Increasing the Speed of a WAV File
Colin Howard
Darran,
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Pleased it worked for you. There are other values in the tabs but not altogether sure how these can be used, maybe more trials experimenting with these setting could produce better quality sound. As, no doubt, you have noticed, there are other algorythms available, but I have found the first one, similarity, gives consistently the best results.
On Thu, 4 Jun 2020 15:51:20 +0100, "Darran Ross via groups.io"
<darran.ross=talktalk.net@groups.io> wrote: -Many thanks Colin, this worked a treat! - --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com
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Re: Increasing the Speed of a WAV File
Darran Ross
Many thanks Colin, this worked a treat!
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Darran
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From: "Colin Howard" <Colin@pobox.com> To: <all-audio@groups.io> Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2020 12:41 PM Subject: Re: [all-audio] Increasing the Speed of a WAV File Greetings, GoldWave's time warp facility will achieve this. Go to menu and effects, to time warp, go to first preset which is similarity, tab across to specify change in length or percent, mine is by default set to percent, decide which you need, tab again and you will see an appropriate value, amend as desired, tab round to ok, enter, job complete. Suggest try on a small sample first, if happy, undo and apply to required total of audio. Be aware, as this is quite a complex algorythm, it may take a fairly long time and also be aware make several small changes rather than one large change. Make sure your undo scheme can cope with a largish numbers of ctrl-z, I have mine set to 15, on my system, the maximum allowed seems to be 20, not sure if this is a GoldWave or system limit. It can be found under options then go down to file storage, on my system is labelled undo lefels. I am still using GW V5.70, on both WXP laptop and W7 desktop. On Wed, 3 Jun 2020 20:05:36 +0100, "Darran Ross via groups.io" <darran.ross=talktalk.net@groups.io> wrote: -Hi list. - -I've got a folder of wav files that I'd like to increase the speed of without effecting the pitch. - -Can anyone recommend a program to do same? - -Thanks to anyone who can help. - -Darran - - - - --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com __________ ESET Internet Security __________ This email was scanned, no threats were found. Detection engine version: 21439 (20200604) https://www.eset.com
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Re: Major problems when attempting to record a stream
Colin Howard
Greetings,
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here is the message I sent to the group yesterday, to which, Donald, you neither replied nor acknowledge on list or privately to me. To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Major problems when attempting to record a stream From: "Colin Howard" <Colin@pobox.com> Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2020 08:33:46 +0100 Greetings, I am surprised in TR you are using the stereo mix, I do not for live streams, I capture the sound off the stream by using background recording. Then, again, what live streams are you taking? I can supply you with direct links for all the BBC streams plus a few others such as The Ride Radio Etc. Do you know how to use TR's background recording function? I use it extensively and can take about five streams on the same machine together and none interfere with each other, maybe I could have more, think this is rather dependent on my broadband capabilities. I can have them all set to background mode, meaning I don't hear the streams, I can go into any and play as it records, stopping play leaves play at the stop point and resuming picks up. You can wind back or forward but when you meet the point of recording, play goes back to the start. If you want more info, please come back privately to me at: colin@pobox.com I've been using TR now for about ten or maybe even more years, my current version is V8.3Pro, I do have V8.6Pro but being happy with the older one, not installed it yet. I use TR on my old WXP laptop and my W7 desktop.
On Mon, 1 Jun 2020 20:01:51 -0700, "Donald Roberts"
<donald_roberts_99@hotmail.com> wrote: -I have two PCs, each of which is running Windows 10 version 1909. The -HP has the problem, the Dell does not. I usually use Window-eyes -9.5.4, but use Jaws 18 when W E encounters an issue, though I am -confident this is not relevant to my current issue. - - - -There are times when I wish to record a stream from the internet. So I -fire up Total Recorder and set the source selection to stereo mix, -having first gone into the sound card settings to make sure that stereo -mix is selected. But when I attempt to record, the sound is recorded -but plays back at an extremely accelerated rate of speed. Yes, I know -that Total Recorder has a speed adjustment. So I make sure that it is -in the normal position, and to prove this, I play back a recording which -was not made from streaming. And this test recording plays at a normal -speed. - - - -So in order to investigate further, I change to other recorders -including Studio Recorder and Gold Wave, all of which exhibit the -problem when I attempt to record a stream. There was a recent thread -regarding something called Wave Max. Unfortunately, I paid no attention -to this thread but in retrospect wonder if Wave Max might be an issue. - - - -I am hoping that someone on list has encountered this issue and has -found a solution. If so, what is the solution? - - - -Thanks. - Don Roberts --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com
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Re: Trying To Convert File To MP3
Colin Howard
Greetings,
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I agree, I've converted .mp4 files using my GW V5.70 without problems. One way in GW to do this is, create a new file and save it to the name and format required using ctrl+s, delete it's contents, switch to the file you want to convert, select the whole thing and paste into the other file. Save the resulting file, this stops at least one unnecessary conversion hence loss of fidelity. I've been using GW since V5.12 over about the last fourteen or so years.
On Wed, 3 Jun 2020 16:31:14 -0400, "JOHN RIEHL via groups.io"
<REALMAN02=VERIZON.NET@groups.io> wrote: -My recommendation is to use goldwave. Tha tprogram will do everything you are trying to do but much more easily - - ------Original Message----- -From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Georgina Joyce -Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2020 4:28 PM -To: all-audio@groups.io -Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3 - -Hello, - -You are working with 2 lossy formats. You should convert to wav or another lossless format make your cuts etc then convert to mp3. Because you might not know it but this is what switch would have been doing in the background I am guessing that something wasn’t carried across to the mp3 file. This will cut down on the number of downward conversions. Which is important because each conversion further detail is lost, hence their name lossy formats. - -HTH - -Gena -> On 3 Jun 2020, at 21:14, Tom Kaufman <tomcat53@comcast.net> wrote: -> -> Hello list: Am attempting to convert an MP4 file to MP3; here's what -> is -> happening: I am using the program Switch to convert this MP4 file to -> an MP3 file, so I then can running it through MP3 Direct Cut to trim -> some parts off! However, while I have managed to convert to MP3, then -> I find I have no file.at least, the file isn't playing in Winamp; nor -> will it play in MP3 Direct Cut! What is it I am missing? An doing -> this for a friend who needs this, so am hoping I can get a solution to this one! -> -> Thanks, -> -> Tom Kaufman -> -> -> -> - -Gena - -Call: M0EBP -DMR ID: 2346259 -Loc: IO83PS -73 - - - - - - --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com
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Re: Major problems when attempting to record a stream
Colin Howard
Donald,
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I find it unbelievable you've not managed to sort this speed problem, I sent you concise and clear instructions how to go about it in GoldWave, did you ever receive them? If not, I'll look up the original post again and resend to the list.
On Wed, 3 Jun 2020 07:40:04 -0700, "Donald Roberts"
<donald_roberts_99@hotmail.com> wrote: -Studio Recorder works well with any screen reader. I usually use -Window-Eyes, but Jaws also works very well with it. - - -Don Roberts - - -On 6/3/2020 4:40 AM, stewartross via groups.io wrote: -> is studio recorder jaws user friendly? -> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donald Roberts" -> <donald_roberts_99@hotmail.com> -> To: <all-audio@groups.io> -> Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2020 7:44 PM -> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Major problems when attempting to record a -> stream -> -> ->> Thank you so much, Georgina, for your prompt response. What you ->> suggest makes sense. But suggest places to check. For example, I know ->> how to check sample rates in the various recording programs such as ->> Total Recorder, GoldWave, and Studio Recorder; but where would I ->> check sample rate settings in the sound card? When I look at those ->> settings, all I see are volume, balance, and whether or not to listen ->> while recording. ->> ->> ->> Thanks. ->> ->> ->> Don Roberts ->> ->> ->> On 6/2/2020 8:23 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote: ->>> Hello, ->>> ->>> It sounds like you are mixing sample rates. Check that every listing ->>> matches. whether it be 44,100 or whatever, the hardware can handle. ->>> ->>> Regards ->>>> On 2 Jun 2020, at 04:01, Donald Roberts ->>>> <donald_roberts_99@hotmail.com> wrote: ->>>> ->>>> I have two PCs, each of which is running Windows 10 version 1909. ->>>> The HP has the problem, the Dell does not. I usually use ->>>> Window-eyes 9.5.4, but use Jaws 18 when W E encounters an issue, ->>>> though I am confident this is not relevant to my current issue. ->>>> ->>>> ->>>> ->>>> There are times when I wish to record a stream from the internet. ->>>> So I fire up Total Recorder and set the source selection to stereo ->>>> mix, having first gone into the sound card settings to make sure ->>>> that stereo mix is selected. But when I attempt to record, the ->>>> sound is recorded but plays back at an extremely accelerated rate ->>>> of speed. Yes, I know that Total Recorder has a speed adjustment. ->>>> So I make sure that it is in the normal position, and to prove ->>>> this, I play back a recording which was not made from streaming. ->>>> And this test recording plays at a normal speed. ->>>> ->>>> ->>>> ->>>> So in order to investigate further, I change to other recorders ->>>> including Studio Recorder and Gold Wave, all of which exhibit the ->>>> problem when I attempt to record a stream. There was a recent ->>>> thread regarding something called Wave Max. Unfortunately, I paid ->>>> no attention to this thread but in retrospect wonder if Wave Max ->>>> might be an issue. ->>>> ->>>> ->>>> ->>>> I am hoping that someone on list has encountered this issue and has ->>>> found a solution. If so, what is the solution? ->>>> ->>>> ->>>> ->>>> Thanks. ->>>> Don Roberts ->>>> ->>>> ->>>> ->>>> ->>> Gena ->>> ->>> Call: M0EBP ->>> DMR ID: 2346259 ->>> Loc: IO83PS ->>> 73 ->>> ->>> ->>> ->> ->> ->> -> -> -> -> - - --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com
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Re: Increasing the Speed of a WAV File
Colin Howard
Greetings,
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GoldWave's time warp facility will achieve this. Go to menu and effects, to time warp, go to first preset which is similarity, tab across to specify change in length or percent, mine is by default set to percent, decide which you need, tab again and you will see an appropriate value, amend as desired, tab round to ok, enter, job complete. Suggest try on a small sample first, if happy, undo and apply to required total of audio. Be aware, as this is quite a complex algorythm, it may take a fairly long time and also be aware make several small changes rather than one large change. Make sure your undo scheme can cope with a largish numbers of ctrl-z, I have mine set to 15, on my system, the maximum allowed seems to be 20, not sure if this is a GoldWave or system limit. It can be found under options then go down to file storage, on my system is labelled undo lefels. I am still using GW V5.70, on both WXP laptop and W7 desktop.
On Wed, 3 Jun 2020 20:05:36 +0100, "Darran Ross via groups.io"
<darran.ross=talktalk.net@groups.io> wrote: -Hi list. - -I've got a folder of wav files that I'd like to increase the speed of without effecting the pitch. - -Can anyone recommend a program to do same? - -Thanks to anyone who can help. - -Darran - - - - --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com
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Re: Trying To Convert File To MP3
Barry Chapman
I understood he was trying to convert an M4A file. I don't have any M4P files to try it with.
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Regards, Barry Chapman
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From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of DAVID Sent: Thursday, 4 June 2020 4:13 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3 Hey barry I tried that but it did not work for me. Maybe it doh work with m4p files. -----Original Message----- From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Barry Chapman Sent: Thursday, 4 June 2020 1:26 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3 Hi Tom, To get to the Winamp disk writer plugin: 1. Launch Winamp and open the file you wish to convert. 2. Press v to stop it playing. 3. Press ctrl+p for Winamp preferences. 4. Up or down arrow to plugins. If it is closed, press right arrow to open it. 5. Down arrow to output. 6. Press tab twice. You will probably be on Nullsoft DirectSound Output. 7. Down arrow to Nullsoft Disk Writer and press enter. 8. Press x and the file will be converted to wav rather than playing. By default, the converted file will be in your music folder under users and your name with a number such as 01 at the start. This can be changed in the plugin configuration. 9. Follow the steps above again to set the output plugin back to Nullsoft DirectSound Output. Otherwise, files will continue to be copied rather than played. If you need any more detail, please let me know. Regards, Barry Chapman -----Original Message----- From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: Thursday, 4 June 2020 1:24 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3 Barry: I did try converting the original M4A (which does play in Winamp) to WAV just now; no soap! It won't play! But tell me about this Winamp Disk Writer output and how I either "get to it" or install it or whatever I need to do? As I said in an earlier reply, I don't claim to know a whole lot about this kind of stuff; am trying to do a favor for a friend and am having no luck! If it's as simple as using this Winamp Disk Writer to convert it to WAV; then converting that Wav file to an MP3, then I should be able to do what I want to do, which is to take the part of the file that my friend doesn't need away. First, I need to know more about this Winamp Disk Writer Output plugin! Thanks, Tom Kaufman -----Original Message----- From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Barry Chapman Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 10:30 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3 Hi Tom, If the original plays in Winamp, have you tried converting it to Wav using the Winamp Disk Writer output plugin. That works for me. You can then convert the wav to mp3 with Switch. Regards, Barry Chapman -----Original Message----- From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: Thursday, 4 June 2020 11:19 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3 Georgina: I wasn't trying to criticize you (or anyone) am just simply stating what I have done so far! As for Error messages from Winamp, none; only thing is, Winamp isn't playing the converted version of the file. Admittedly, I am not as well-versed about these things as many who are on this list. However, to me, it seemed like converting the file in qu4estion to MP3; then using MP3 Direct Cut (a program that I have had good luck with for a long time now) seemed to be the way to go. But that's why I put this query here in hopes someone could point me in the right direction! I will check the bit rate of the convert file; for now, I have seen that the original file (non-converted) is 53KPBS. So next, I will look at the converted file and see what that says! Again...I'm not being critical of your assessments and apologize if I came off that way! Am sure that you (along with others on this list) have a much better understanding of these things than I do! Tom Kaufman -----Original Message----- From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Georgina Joyce Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 6:43 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3 Hello Tom, I was only trying to bring your attention to what it is you are doing and attempting to do. I don’t know these utilities that are obviously been created to simplify the process. You appear to be looking for a quick no fuss utility. I cannot guess why your workflow didn’t work on this occasion. The only way you would establish why the file became corrupted. Or maybe it didn’t maybe there is something that has been done to the file that Winamp doesn’t like. Have you tried another player? Have you looked at the file-size to see how it differs from the original. There are so many things with what you are doing to the files that could cause Winamp to refuse to play it. What do Winamp error messages say. Have you considered getting a copy of something like audacity and learning that? It will be a lot easier with such a program than taking the easy way of using these little utilities that mangle your files. But if they work for you sometimes and you are happy with that then fine. But you will have to investigate why it didn’t work this time. I don’t think anyone here could guess what has happened. Unless they understand how these utilities work and have been using these utilities for some time to know their little quirks. Have you wrote to the program suppliers for support? Good luck, On 3 Jun 2020, at 23:09, Tom Kaufman <tomcat53@comcast.net> wrote:Gena Call: M0EBP DMR ID: 2346259 Loc: IO83PS 73
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Re: Trying To Convert File To MP3
DAVID
Hey barry I tried that but it did not work for me.
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Maybe it doh work with m4p files.
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From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Barry Chapman Sent: Thursday, 4 June 2020 1:26 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3 Hi Tom, To get to the Winamp disk writer plugin: 1. Launch Winamp and open the file you wish to convert. 2. Press v to stop it playing. 3. Press ctrl+p for Winamp preferences. 4. Up or down arrow to plugins. If it is closed, press right arrow to open it. 5. Down arrow to output. 6. Press tab twice. You will probably be on Nullsoft DirectSound Output. 7. Down arrow to Nullsoft Disk Writer and press enter. 8. Press x and the file will be converted to wav rather than playing. By default, the converted file will be in your music folder under users and your name with a number such as 01 at the start. This can be changed in the plugin configuration. 9. Follow the steps above again to set the output plugin back to Nullsoft DirectSound Output. Otherwise, files will continue to be copied rather than played. If you need any more detail, please let me know. Regards, Barry Chapman -----Original Message----- From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: Thursday, 4 June 2020 1:24 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3 Barry: I did try converting the original M4A (which does play in Winamp) to WAV just now; no soap! It won't play! But tell me about this Winamp Disk Writer output and how I either "get to it" or install it or whatever I need to do? As I said in an earlier reply, I don't claim to know a whole lot about this kind of stuff; am trying to do a favor for a friend and am having no luck! If it's as simple as using this Winamp Disk Writer to convert it to WAV; then converting that Wav file to an MP3, then I should be able to do what I want to do, which is to take the part of the file that my friend doesn't need away. First, I need to know more about this Winamp Disk Writer Output plugin! Thanks, Tom Kaufman -----Original Message----- From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Barry Chapman Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 10:30 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3 Hi Tom, If the original plays in Winamp, have you tried converting it to Wav using the Winamp Disk Writer output plugin. That works for me. You can then convert the wav to mp3 with Switch. Regards, Barry Chapman -----Original Message----- From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: Thursday, 4 June 2020 11:19 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3 Georgina: I wasn't trying to criticize you (or anyone) am just simply stating what I have done so far! As for Error messages from Winamp, none; only thing is, Winamp isn't playing the converted version of the file. Admittedly, I am not as well-versed about these things as many who are on this list. However, to me, it seemed like converting the file in qu4estion to MP3; then using MP3 Direct Cut (a program that I have had good luck with for a long time now) seemed to be the way to go. But that's why I put this query here in hopes someone could point me in the right direction! I will check the bit rate of the convert file; for now, I have seen that the original file (non-converted) is 53KPBS. So next, I will look at the converted file and see what that says! Again...I'm not being critical of your assessments and apologize if I came off that way! Am sure that you (along with others on this list) have a much better understanding of these things than I do! Tom Kaufman -----Original Message----- From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Georgina Joyce Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 6:43 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3 Hello Tom, I was only trying to bring your attention to what it is you are doing and attempting to do. I don’t know these utilities that are obviously been created to simplify the process. You appear to be looking for a quick no fuss utility. I cannot guess why your workflow didn’t work on this occasion. The only way you would establish why the file became corrupted. Or maybe it didn’t maybe there is something that has been done to the file that Winamp doesn’t like. Have you tried another player? Have you looked at the file-size to see how it differs from the original. There are so many things with what you are doing to the files that could cause Winamp to refuse to play it. What do Winamp error messages say. Have you considered getting a copy of something like audacity and learning that? It will be a lot easier with such a program than taking the easy way of using these little utilities that mangle your files. But if they work for you sometimes and you are happy with that then fine. But you will have to investigate why it didn’t work this time. I don’t think anyone here could guess what has happened. Unless they understand how these utilities work and have been using these utilities for some time to know their little quirks. Have you wrote to the program suppliers for support? Good luck, On 3 Jun 2020, at 23:09, Tom Kaufman <tomcat53@comcast.net> wrote:Gena Call: M0EBP DMR ID: 2346259 Loc: IO83PS 73
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Re: Trying To Convert File To MP3
Barry Chapman
Hi Tom,
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To get to the Winamp disk writer plugin: 1. Launch Winamp and open the file you wish to convert. 2. Press v to stop it playing. 3. Press ctrl+p for Winamp preferences. 4. Up or down arrow to plugins. If it is closed, press right arrow to open it. 5. Down arrow to output. 6. Press tab twice. You will probably be on Nullsoft DirectSound Output. 7. Down arrow to Nullsoft Disk Writer and press enter. 8. Press x and the file will be converted to wav rather than playing. By default, the converted file will be in your music folder under users and your name with a number such as 01 at the start. This can be changed in the plugin configuration. 9. Follow the steps above again to set the output plugin back to Nullsoft DirectSound Output. Otherwise, files will continue to be copied rather than played. If you need any more detail, please let me know. Regards, Barry Chapman
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From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: Thursday, 4 June 2020 1:24 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3 Barry: I did try converting the original M4A (which does play in Winamp) to WAV just now; no soap! It won't play! But tell me about this Winamp Disk Writer output and how I either "get to it" or install it or whatever I need to do? As I said in an earlier reply, I don't claim to know a whole lot about this kind of stuff; am trying to do a favor for a friend and am having no luck! If it's as simple as using this Winamp Disk Writer to convert it to WAV; then converting that Wav file to an MP3, then I should be able to do what I want to do, which is to take the part of the file that my friend doesn't need away. First, I need to know more about this Winamp Disk Writer Output plugin! Thanks, Tom Kaufman -----Original Message----- From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Barry Chapman Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 10:30 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3 Hi Tom, If the original plays in Winamp, have you tried converting it to Wav using the Winamp Disk Writer output plugin. That works for me. You can then convert the wav to mp3 with Switch. Regards, Barry Chapman -----Original Message----- From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: Thursday, 4 June 2020 11:19 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3 Georgina: I wasn't trying to criticize you (or anyone) am just simply stating what I have done so far! As for Error messages from Winamp, none; only thing is, Winamp isn't playing the converted version of the file. Admittedly, I am not as well-versed about these things as many who are on this list. However, to me, it seemed like converting the file in qu4estion to MP3; then using MP3 Direct Cut (a program that I have had good luck with for a long time now) seemed to be the way to go. But that's why I put this query here in hopes someone could point me in the right direction! I will check the bit rate of the convert file; for now, I have seen that the original file (non-converted) is 53KPBS. So next, I will look at the converted file and see what that says! Again...I'm not being critical of your assessments and apologize if I came off that way! Am sure that you (along with others on this list) have a much better understanding of these things than I do! Tom Kaufman -----Original Message----- From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Georgina Joyce Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 6:43 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3 Hello Tom, I was only trying to bring your attention to what it is you are doing and attempting to do. I don’t know these utilities that are obviously been created to simplify the process. You appear to be looking for a quick no fuss utility. I cannot guess why your workflow didn’t work on this occasion. The only way you would establish why the file became corrupted. Or maybe it didn’t maybe there is something that has been done to the file that Winamp doesn’t like. Have you tried another player? Have you looked at the file-size to see how it differs from the original. There are so many things with what you are doing to the files that could cause Winamp to refuse to play it. What do Winamp error messages say. Have you considered getting a copy of something like audacity and learning that? It will be a lot easier with such a program than taking the easy way of using these little utilities that mangle your files. But if they work for you sometimes and you are happy with that then fine. But you will have to investigate why it didn’t work this time. I don’t think anyone here could guess what has happened. Unless they understand how these utilities work and have been using these utilities for some time to know their little quirks. Have you wrote to the program suppliers for support? Good luck, On 3 Jun 2020, at 23:09, Tom Kaufman <tomcat53@comcast.net> wrote:Gena Call: M0EBP DMR ID: 2346259 Loc: IO83PS 73
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Tom Kaufman
Barry: I did try converting the original M4A (which does play in Winamp) to WAV just now; no soap! It won't play! But tell me about this Winamp Disk Writer output and how I either "get to it" or install it or whatever I need to do? As I said in an earlier reply, I don't claim to know a whole lot about this kind of stuff; am trying to do a favor for a friend and am having no luck! If it's as simple as using this Winamp Disk Writer to convert it to WAV; then converting that Wav file to an MP3, then I should be able to do what I want to do, which is to take the part of the file that my friend doesn't need away. First, I need to know more about this Winamp Disk Writer Output plugin!
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From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Barry Chapman Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 10:30 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3 Hi Tom, If the original plays in Winamp, have you tried converting it to Wav using the Winamp Disk Writer output plugin. That works for me. You can then convert the wav to mp3 with Switch. Regards, Barry Chapman -----Original Message----- From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: Thursday, 4 June 2020 11:19 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3 Georgina: I wasn't trying to criticize you (or anyone) am just simply stating what I have done so far! As for Error messages from Winamp, none; only thing is, Winamp isn't playing the converted version of the file. Admittedly, I am not as well-versed about these things as many who are on this list. However, to me, it seemed like converting the file in qu4estion to MP3; then using MP3 Direct Cut (a program that I have had good luck with for a long time now) seemed to be the way to go. But that's why I put this query here in hopes someone could point me in the right direction! I will check the bit rate of the convert file; for now, I have seen that the original file (non-converted) is 53KPBS. So next, I will look at the converted file and see what that says! Again...I'm not being critical of your assessments and apologize if I came off that way! Am sure that you (along with others on this list) have a much better understanding of these things than I do! Tom Kaufman -----Original Message----- From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Georgina Joyce Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 6:43 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3 Hello Tom, I was only trying to bring your attention to what it is you are doing and attempting to do. I don’t know these utilities that are obviously been created to simplify the process. You appear to be looking for a quick no fuss utility. I cannot guess why your workflow didn’t work on this occasion. The only way you would establish why the file became corrupted. Or maybe it didn’t maybe there is something that has been done to the file that Winamp doesn’t like. Have you tried another player? Have you looked at the file-size to see how it differs from the original. There are so many things with what you are doing to the files that could cause Winamp to refuse to play it. What do Winamp error messages say. Have you considered getting a copy of something like audacity and learning that? It will be a lot easier with such a program than taking the easy way of using these little utilities that mangle your files. But if they work for you sometimes and you are happy with that then fine. But you will have to investigate why it didn’t work this time. I don’t think anyone here could guess what has happened. Unless they understand how these utilities work and have been using these utilities for some time to know their little quirks. Have you wrote to the program suppliers for support? Good luck, On 3 Jun 2020, at 23:09, Tom Kaufman <tomcat53@comcast.net> wrote:Gena Call: M0EBP DMR ID: 2346259 Loc: IO83PS 73
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Hi Tom,
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If the original plays in Winamp, have you tried converting it to Wav using the Winamp Disk Writer output plugin. That works for me. You can then convert the wav to mp3 with Switch. Regards, Barry Chapman
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From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: Thursday, 4 June 2020 11:19 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3 Georgina: I wasn't trying to criticize you (or anyone) am just simply stating what I have done so far! As for Error messages from Winamp, none; only thing is, Winamp isn't playing the converted version of the file. Admittedly, I am not as well-versed about these things as many who are on this list. However, to me, it seemed like converting the file in qu4estion to MP3; then using MP3 Direct Cut (a program that I have had good luck with for a long time now) seemed to be the way to go. But that's why I put this query here in hopes someone could point me in the right direction! I will check the bit rate of the convert file; for now, I have seen that the original file (non-converted) is 53KPBS. So next, I will look at the converted file and see what that says! Again...I'm not being critical of your assessments and apologize if I came off that way! Am sure that you (along with others on this list) have a much better understanding of these things than I do! Tom Kaufman -----Original Message----- From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Georgina Joyce Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 6:43 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3 Hello Tom, I was only trying to bring your attention to what it is you are doing and attempting to do. I don’t know these utilities that are obviously been created to simplify the process. You appear to be looking for a quick no fuss utility. I cannot guess why your workflow didn’t work on this occasion. The only way you would establish why the file became corrupted. Or maybe it didn’t maybe there is something that has been done to the file that Winamp doesn’t like. Have you tried another player? Have you looked at the file-size to see how it differs from the original. There are so many things with what you are doing to the files that could cause Winamp to refuse to play it. What do Winamp error messages say. Have you considered getting a copy of something like audacity and learning that? It will be a lot easier with such a program than taking the easy way of using these little utilities that mangle your files. But if they work for you sometimes and you are happy with that then fine. But you will have to investigate why it didn’t work this time. I don’t think anyone here could guess what has happened. Unless they understand how these utilities work and have been using these utilities for some time to know their little quirks. Have you wrote to the program suppliers for support? Good luck, On 3 Jun 2020, at 23:09, Tom Kaufman <tomcat53@comcast.net> wrote:Gena Call: M0EBP DMR ID: 2346259 Loc: IO83PS 73
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Tom Kaufman
Georgina: I wasn't trying to criticize you (or anyone) am just simply stating what I have done so far! As for Error messages from Winamp, none; only thing is, Winamp isn't playing the converted version of the file. Admittedly, I am not as well-versed about these things as many who are on this list. However, to me, it seemed like converting the file in qu4estion to MP3; then using MP3 Direct Cut (a program that I have had good luck with for a long time now) seemed to be the way to go. But that's why I put this query here in hopes someone could point me in the right direction! I will check the bit rate of the convert file; for now, I have seen that the original file (non-converted) is 53KPBS. So next, I will look at the converted file and see what that says! Again...I'm not being critical of your assessments and apologize if I came off that way! Am sure that you (along with others on this list) have a much better understanding of these things than I do!
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From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Georgina Joyce Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 6:43 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3 Hello Tom, I was only trying to bring your attention to what it is you are doing and attempting to do. I don’t know these utilities that are obviously been created to simplify the process. You appear to be looking for a quick no fuss utility. I cannot guess why your workflow didn’t work on this occasion. The only way you would establish why the file became corrupted. Or maybe it didn’t maybe there is something that has been done to the file that Winamp doesn’t like. Have you tried another player? Have you looked at the file-size to see how it differs from the original. There are so many things with what you are doing to the files that could cause Winamp to refuse to play it. What do Winamp error messages say. Have you considered getting a copy of something like audacity and learning that? It will be a lot easier with such a program than taking the easy way of using these little utilities that mangle your files. But if they work for you sometimes and you are happy with that then fine. But you will have to investigate why it didn’t work this time. I don’t think anyone here could guess what has happened. Unless they understand how these utilities work and have been using these utilities for some time to know their little quirks. Have you wrote to the program suppliers for support? Good luck, On 3 Jun 2020, at 23:09, Tom Kaufman <tomcat53@comcast.net> wrote:Gena Call: M0EBP DMR ID: 2346259 Loc: IO83PS 73
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Tony
I have not had that problem but it might have to do with the MP3 settings. The encoder used in the conversion may not be supported by WinAmp. The programs I mentioned as well as others are free. You might want to try a different program to see if that helps.
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From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 5:09 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3 To Tony and Georgina: I forgot to mention that Zoom does create more than one file; one of the files is named Audio_Only; if I'm not mistaken, this particular file is the M4A and will play in Winamp! But if again, if I convert to MP3, then Winamp absolutely will not play it in its converted form! Tom Kaufman -----Original Message----- From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Tony Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 5:53 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3 I have used Audio Converter Plus for M4a files. It will alsw convert M4B files if you rename them to M4A. I also use Free M4A to MP3 Converter. It can split M4B books into chapter files. Both can reduce the bit rate if the files are too large as long as you don't go too far and lose sound quality. Tony -----Original Message----- From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 3:50 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3 Okay...I tried converting to WAV; same result: file won't play! One of the files in this group is "audio_only; this file in its original form is an M4A file. I need to make an MP3 file so I can then run it through MP3 Direct cut and take the unwanted stuff out! Can this not be done? I know that MP3 files definitely can be cut as I've done it often enough! So what is it I'm doing wrong here? Thanks, Tom Kaufman -----Original Message----- From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Georgina Joyce Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 4:28 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Trying To Convert File To MP3 Hello, You are working with 2 lossy formats. You should convert to wav or another lossless format make your cuts etc then convert to mp3. Because you might not know it but this is what switch would have been doing in the background. I am guessing that something wasn’t carried across to the mp3 file. This will cut down on the number of downward conversions. Which is important because each conversion further detail is lost, hence their name lossy formats. HTH Gena On 3 Jun 2020, at 21:14, Tom Kaufman <tomcat53@comcast.net> wrote:Gena Call: M0EBP DMR ID: 2346259 Loc: IO83PS 73
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