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Re: F6 reviews

Georgina Joyce
 

Hello Frank,

Better build quality and Android an IOS apps were stated. Along with having to buy an additional bluetooth dongle. Which prompted him to prefer the MixPre-3 II. Don’t forget he has both devices that he paid for out of his own money.

Furthermore, a selling point for the Zoom is that you get twice as many XLR’s for the same money. Just think what he is saying there.

Regards,






On 19 May 2020, at 00:52, frank cuta <cuta@bentonrea.com> wrote:

As I recall he liked both of them a lot and only chose the sound devices based on personal preference more than increased functionality.

Frank


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To: all-audio@groups.io <mailto:all-audio@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [all-audio] F6 reviews


Hello All,

You will note that Curtis favoured the Sound Devices MixPre-3 II over the Zoom F6. On build and the remote for the F6 is very expensive. The Sound Devices machine doesn’t have a dedicated one but several cheaper third party ones are available. Curtis found the F6 too small and the plastic knobs wobble and as he pointed out if they are mounted on a circuit board then it is a weak design. I have written to Sound Devices to see if their IOS and Android apps are accessible to screen readers.

Regards,


On 18 May 2020, at 12:59, Andy via groups.io <meikle.aiden=btinternet.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hi guys.

I wouldn't mind Johnaphins demo. I hear that the Mossion Explosion has done some very interesting podcasts.

Is there a subscrib link perhaps or a e-mail address available.

Andy.
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Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020 9:24 PM
Subject: Re: [all-audio] F6 reviews


Hi Frank. Ha that’s interesting. As over dubbing isn’t a thing I do I missed that. Strange as Zooms are musician based mostly. Did Curtis giv any reason why? I’ll have to listen to his review again. But bro me wants an F6. I know I’ll want it more after Neal demos his Rode NT1-A on it.
On May 17, 2020, at 4:17 PM, frank cuta <cuta@bentonrea.com> wrote:

After listening to the review of the F6 on mosen at large I was all ready to
sell my H6 and replace it. However after listening to the Curtis Judd
review on you tube I am having secondthoughts. Curtis claims that its not
a good primary deck for musicians because it will not permit you to overlay
tracks. I hope that I am misunderstanding something here. Why would anyone
build a multitrack recorder that would not let you do sound on sound.
Frank








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Re: Overall accessibility of Zoom H6

Georgina Joyce
 

Hello Hamit,
Yes, I have flashed many devices etc, so I had put a cable in even though the batteries are newish. I did get the prompts and it did state the update was complete.

Here’s the text from the notes but they don’t mean that much as the images have been stripped. I will get AIRA on the job later:
Outputting tone signals when starting and stopping recording (sound marker function)
When starting and stopping recording, the
When recording audio for video with the
can output tone signals (sound markers).
, by inputting tone signals into the camera recording, aligning the audio with the video will be easier.
Setting the "Mode"
Use to select the conditions for outputting sound markers and press
1. Press
2. Use
and press
3. Use
Marker" and press
4. Use to select a menu item and press
to select "REC"
NOTE
Markers will not be output when the overdubbing or voice memo functions is in use.
to select "Sound
Setting the "Sound"
Use to select the type of sound marker and press
Setting the "Level"
Use to set the sound marker level and press
07
ver.2.0 Outputting tone signals when starting and stopping recording (sound marker function)
--- 112 ---

On 19 May 2020, at 02:17, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Gena. Well then yes. Hold the play button as you boot up, When that menu comes up scroll to yes press that menu lever in and bingo. Just leave it be after that. The screen will let you know when it’s done. Oh plug it in by the way. John doesn’t say this but just to be safe and not take the chance of bricking the recorder. What demo of Neal’s are you asking about? If the H6 he did use the NT1-A in it mostly at the beginning but he used it most in this podcast. Now if the F6 well now rode NT1-A into an F6 would be super awesome. We’ll see what he does as he just got it a few days ago. Also his site is having a page repaired.
On May 18, 2020, at 2:51 PM, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Gena. Better YouTube it as John did a vid on how to do it. But here’s what I seem to remember John saying. As you pull the switch to power up hold the play button down. Wait until that upgrade screen comes up. use the menu lever to go to okay and then I guess just leave it be. Again best YouTube how to upgrade H6 to be safe.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 18, 2020, at 2:28 PM, Georgina Joyce <gena@gena-j.me.uk> wrote:

Hello,

Thanks for the heads up. Does anyone know what buttons are required? They have used graphics to show the button to be held while turning on and the button to be pressed to confirm.

Thanks,


On 18 May 2020, at 18:55, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@gmail.com> wrote:
Ah thanks for that. I haven’t checked the Zoom website in a wile. They must’ve written a new firmware at some point. When did you down load this? Well then for whom ever started this thread that’s 1 less worry my friend. Now we’ll know what the hell we’re doing with the thing. Lol! I’ll also have to give Zoom a congrats call. Yes I do that. I did when they did it with the F recorders.
I also said you’ve taken your first step. Like Olympus did. Hopefully you all can get to talking menus and settings at some point.
On May 18, 2020, at 12:56 PM, Aidan <aidan.smarttalk@gmail.com> wrote:
It is werth noticing that you must update the h6 firmware
Then you will find that there are beeps for recording/stopping.

On Sat, 16 May 2020 at 15:10, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Mike. Well if you are like me and get totally lost without speach no
it ain't accessible but for arming and disarming and recording and
stopping. There are no beeps so if you pause your recording you'd better
remember you did to either re-start or not pause a recording by axident.
I've done just that. Now I don't wana sound like it's tottaly not usable
at all. I do have 1. It is unusable if you don't like to have headphones
on and again if menus not talking confuses you if you don't have someone
to read them. So tip 1 from me keep headphones handy. This way you can
hear the mics come on if you light them up. Or you can hear if you use
the XLRs weather they are stereo linked or not. I keep asking zoom to
please oh please at least have someone sit in a studio like Olympus did.
Because I think a speach synth would cost more no? Now the F6 is like
the older and at this point some of the cheeper Olympus recorders. It
does beep for starting pausing and stopping recordings, It beeps for low
batteries oh yeah and that's another thing no warning from the H6. It
just saves the file and dies. Yes obviously the screen shows the battery
but again these things don't speak. So in any event back to the F6 for a
second and the F8N for that matter. There's another beep for something
else that I can't remember right now but the point is that those at
least do those few beeps like the earlier before the DS recorders
Olympus. Now you can call the Aira people or use Be My Eyes. That's what
I've done. I also have my neice Abby help me too.

On 5/16/2020 8:24 AM, Mike Busboom wrote:
Hello everyone,

I have been noticing a lot of discussion about the Zoom H6, so I know
that it can be used by blind people. Does anyone know of a podcast which
specifically discusses the level of accessibility of this unit. Does the
unit have voice guidance such as many Olympus recorders, or is there a
different approach to use from a blindness perspective?

With thanks in advance,

Mike







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Re: Overall accessibility of Zoom H6

Hamit Campos
 

Hi Gena. Well then yes. Hold the play button as you boot up, When that menu comes up scroll to yes press that menu lever in and bingo. Just leave it be after that. The screen will let you know when it’s done. Oh plug it in by the way. John doesn’t say this but just to be safe and not take the chance of bricking the recorder. What demo of Neal’s are you asking about? If the H6 he did use the NT1-A in it mostly at the beginning but he used it most in this podcast. Now if the F6 well now rode NT1-A into an F6 would be super awesome. We’ll see what he does as he just got it a few days ago. Also his site is having a page repaired.

On May 18, 2020, at 2:51 PM, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Gena. Better YouTube it as John did a vid on how to do it. But here’s what I seem to remember John saying. As you pull the switch to power up hold the play button down. Wait until that upgrade screen comes up. use the menu lever to go to okay and then I guess just leave it be. Again best YouTube how to upgrade H6 to be safe.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 18, 2020, at 2:28 PM, Georgina Joyce <gena@gena-j.me.uk> wrote:

Hello,

Thanks for the heads up. Does anyone know what buttons are required? They have used graphics to show the button to be held while turning on and the button to be pressed to confirm.

Thanks,


On 18 May 2020, at 18:55, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@gmail.com> wrote:
Ah thanks for that. I haven’t checked the Zoom website in a wile. They must’ve written a new firmware at some point. When did you down load this? Well then for whom ever started this thread that’s 1 less worry my friend. Now we’ll know what the hell we’re doing with the thing. Lol! I’ll also have to give Zoom a congrats call. Yes I do that. I did when they did it with the F recorders.
I also said you’ve taken your first step. Like Olympus did. Hopefully you all can get to talking menus and settings at some point.
On May 18, 2020, at 12:56 PM, Aidan <aidan.smarttalk@gmail.com> wrote:
It is werth noticing that you must update the h6 firmware
Then you will find that there are beeps for recording/stopping.

On Sat, 16 May 2020 at 15:10, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Mike. Well if you are like me and get totally lost without speach no
it ain't accessible but for arming and disarming and recording and
stopping. There are no beeps so if you pause your recording you'd better
remember you did to either re-start or not pause a recording by axident.
I've done just that. Now I don't wana sound like it's tottaly not usable
at all. I do have 1. It is unusable if you don't like to have headphones
on and again if menus not talking confuses you if you don't have someone
to read them. So tip 1 from me keep headphones handy. This way you can
hear the mics come on if you light them up. Or you can hear if you use
the XLRs weather they are stereo linked or not. I keep asking zoom to
please oh please at least have someone sit in a studio like Olympus did.
Because I think a speach synth would cost more no? Now the F6 is like
the older and at this point some of the cheeper Olympus recorders. It
does beep for starting pausing and stopping recordings, It beeps for low
batteries oh yeah and that's another thing no warning from the H6. It
just saves the file and dies. Yes obviously the screen shows the battery
but again these things don't speak. So in any event back to the F6 for a
second and the F8N for that matter. There's another beep for something
else that I can't remember right now but the point is that those at
least do those few beeps like the earlier before the DS recorders
Olympus. Now you can call the Aira people or use Be My Eyes. That's what
I've done. I also have my neice Abby help me too.

On 5/16/2020 8:24 AM, Mike Busboom wrote:
Hello everyone,

I have been noticing a lot of discussion about the Zoom H6, so I know
that it can be used by blind people. Does anyone know of a podcast which
specifically discusses the level of accessibility of this unit. Does the
unit have voice guidance such as many Olympus recorders, or is there a
different approach to use from a blindness perspective?

With thanks in advance,

Mike







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Re: Olympus DM-720 impressions?

Hamit Campos
 

Oh yes I did forget something. I don’t have the DM 720 but if those that had the 420 or 520 used the podcast folder as I did know that’s this folder is now gone on the 720. This may affect playback. Because the recorder would remember where you left off even after shut down. This is 1 beef I do have with the LS-14 as well and in general I hate how it rewinds too far.

On May 18, 2020, at 3:09 PM, Howard Traxler <htraxler7@gmail.com> wrote:

Tom, have you ever had or had reason to know about the 520? I'm wondering how much like the 520 is the 720? I.E., the input jack is shared between mic and line and is located at the business end between the microphones; the audio output jack is 3.5MM and located on the side; the remote control jack is 2.5MM and also on the side; the USB port is also the charging connector and is on the end away from the mics; the power and key lock is a slider on the side near the record, stop and play buttons. This describes the 520.
.

On 5/18/2020 12:05 PM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
Hello David: I have the Olympus DM-720; it pretty much does what I needed to do; records in at least two formats MP3 and WAB (think it'll do others as well) has been a little while since I have used it! But as I said, it'll do what I need it to do!
Tom Kaufman

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of David Mehler
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2020 12:59 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: [all-audio] Olympus DM-720 impressions?

Hello,

Does anyone have the Olympus DM-720 recorder? If so what are your
impressions of it? What do you like and do not like?

Thanks.
Dave.








Re: F6 reviews

frank cuta
 

As I recall he liked both of them a lot and only chose the sound devices based on personal preference more than increased functionality.

Frank

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From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Georgina Joyce
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2020 5:15 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] F6 reviews


Hello All,

You will note that Curtis favoured the Sound Devices MixPre-3 II over the Zoom F6. On build and the remote for the F6 is very expensive. The Sound Devices machine doesn’t have a dedicated one but several cheaper third party ones are available. Curtis found the F6 too small and the plastic knobs wobble and as he pointed out if they are mounted on a circuit board then it is a weak design. I have written to Sound Devices to see if their IOS and Android apps are accessible to screen readers.

Regards,


On 18 May 2020, at 12:59, Andy via groups.io <meikle.aiden=btinternet.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hi guys.

I wouldn't mind Johnaphins demo. I hear that the Mossion Explosion has done some very interesting podcasts.

Is there a subscrib link perhaps or a e-mail address available.

Andy.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Hamit Campos" <hamitcampos@gmail.com>
To: <all-audio@groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020 9:24 PM
Subject: Re: [all-audio] F6 reviews


Hi Frank. Ha that’s interesting. As over dubbing isn’t a thing I do I missed that. Strange as Zooms are musician based mostly. Did Curtis giv any reason why? I’ll have to listen to his review again. But bro me wants an F6. I know I’ll want it more after Neal demos his Rode NT1-A on it.
On May 17, 2020, at 4:17 PM, frank cuta <cuta@bentonrea.com> wrote:

After listening to the review of the F6 on mosen at large I was all ready to
sell my H6 and replace it. However after listening to the Curtis Judd
review on you tube I am having secondthoughts. Curtis claims that its not
a good primary deck for musicians because it will not permit you to overlay
tracks. I hope that I am misunderstanding something here. Why would anyone
build a multitrack recorder that would not let you do sound on sound.
Frank








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Re: Overall accessibility of Zoom H6

Georgina Joyce
 

Hello Aidan,

Who told you this? I have updated and I don’t have any bleeps. It maybe that the update didn’t take. The sighted agent had difficulty in seeing the screen, so I will wait until daylight and get them to check the version. In reading the notes I see the bleeps are for when used in conjunction with a camera and they appear on the film.

I will clarify this tomorrow.

Regards,

On 18 May 2020, at 17:56, Aidan <aidan.smarttalk@gmail.com> wrote:

It is werth noticing that you must update the h6 firmware
Then you will find that there are beeps for recording/stopping.

On Sat, 16 May 2020 at 15:10, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Mike. Well if you are like me and get totally lost without speach no
it ain't accessible but for arming and disarming and recording and
stopping. There are no beeps so if you pause your recording you'd better
remember you did to either re-start or not pause a recording by axident.
I've done just that. Now I don't wana sound like it's tottaly not usable
at all. I do have 1. It is unusable if you don't like to have headphones
on and again if menus not talking confuses you if you don't have someone
to read them. So tip 1 from me keep headphones handy. This way you can
hear the mics come on if you light them up. Or you can hear if you use
the XLRs weather they are stereo linked or not. I keep asking zoom to
please oh please at least have someone sit in a studio like Olympus did.
Because I think a speach synth would cost more no? Now the F6 is like
the older and at this point some of the cheeper Olympus recorders. It
does beep for starting pausing and stopping recordings, It beeps for low
batteries oh yeah and that's another thing no warning from the H6. It
just saves the file and dies. Yes obviously the screen shows the battery
but again these things don't speak. So in any event back to the F6 for a
second and the F8N for that matter. There's another beep for something
else that I can't remember right now but the point is that those at
least do those few beeps like the earlier before the DS recorders
Olympus. Now you can call the Aira people or use Be My Eyes. That's what
I've done. I also have my neice Abby help me too.

On 5/16/2020 8:24 AM, Mike Busboom wrote:
Hello everyone,

I have been noticing a lot of discussion about the Zoom H6, so I know
that it can be used by blind people. Does anyone know of a podcast which
specifically discusses the level of accessibility of this unit. Does the
unit have voice guidance such as many Olympus recorders, or is there a
different approach to use from a blindness perspective?

With thanks in advance,

Mike






Gena

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Re: A Zoom question.

Colin Howard
 

Joe,

thanks.

I'll look it up but am aware of possible delays.

Meantime, I received the following email which would seem to answer most, if
not all my needs. A friend has an amazon account I don't, will ask them to
purchase for me. I've written back to the original sender to ask if the
system needs power or can obtain enough if plugged into an USB un-powered
hub.

Email follows:

********************
Possible WebCam for Zoom.

From: Mike <mike@sauchenford.plus.com>
Date: Mon, 18 May 2020 13:49:10 +0100

Hi Colin

I recently bought this camera from Amazon for about £50 (link below).

https://amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07FNB2KDQ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Very easy to use, USB connection, no set up or drivers required, it just
works when plugged in, on a Windows 10 machine anyway.

It includes an integrated microphone and no switches required. Zoom uses
Alt + A to switch mike on or off and Alt + V to switch video on or off.

The camera is designed to hook over a monitor but will stand on a flat
surface with tilt and also has a standard threaded hole in the base to
accept a camera tripod or similar.

I'm sure there are cheaper but this one is good quality and provides HD
video.

Hope that helps, good luck

Kind Regards,
Mike
Chair
ROCKTALK TN Stirling
mike@rocktalk.org.uk

On Mon, 18 May 2020 14:50:05 +0100, "Joe Paton" <joe@vi-ability.org.uk>
wrote:

-Colin,
-I think it was called the life-cam, from Microsoft.
-You will be verry lucky to buy anything in U K outlets at present.
-
-A big shortage due to the accelleration of online meetings and so on.
-requiring camera and mic kits.
-So much so, that a company we work with, have bought there employees
-laptops, and are using the in-built web cams and microphones because
-they can not locate any camera's or microphones for remote working.
-But when available, The Microsoft Life-cam, retailed for about 28 uk
-pounds, and really easy to set up, clips to the top edge of your monitor.
-Plug and play, beeing microsoft, drivers already on most windows 7, 8
-and windows 10 systems.
-Good luck.
-
-A reasonable microphone for the job you want it to do.
-
-
-
-
-
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Re: Overall accessibility of Zoom H6

Georgina Joyce
 

Hello Hamit,

You are correct. Although he doesn’t say exactly what key to press for selecting OK or as the manual states Yes,. He says scroll to continue. It will be clear as mud, when I try it.

Did you say Neil has done a demo with your favourite mic? Is this for public consumption or did he do it for you.

Regards,


On 18 May 2020, at 19:51, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Gena. Better YouTube it as John did a vid on how to do it. But here’s what I seem to remember John saying. As you pull the switch to power up hold the play button down. Wait until that upgrade screen comes up. use the menu lever to go to okay and then I guess just leave it be. Again best YouTube how to upgrade H6 to be safe.
On May 18, 2020, at 2:28 PM, Georgina Joyce <gena@gena-j.me.uk> wrote:

Hello,

Thanks for the heads up. Does anyone know what buttons are required? They have used graphics to show the button to be held while turning on and the button to be pressed to confirm.

Thanks,


On 18 May 2020, at 18:55, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@gmail.com> wrote:

Ah thanks for that. I haven’t checked the Zoom website in a wile. They must’ve written a new firmware at some point. When did you down load this? Well then for whom ever started this thread that’s 1 less worry my friend. Now we’ll know what the hell we’re doing with the thing. Lol! I’ll also have to give Zoom a congrats call. Yes I do that. I did when they did it with the F recorders.
I also said you’ve taken your first step. Like Olympus did. Hopefully you all can get to talking menus and settings at some point.
On May 18, 2020, at 12:56 PM, Aidan <aidan.smarttalk@gmail.com> wrote:
It is werth noticing that you must update the h6 firmware
Then you will find that there are beeps for recording/stopping.

On Sat, 16 May 2020 at 15:10, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Mike. Well if you are like me and get totally lost without speach no
it ain't accessible but for arming and disarming and recording and
stopping. There are no beeps so if you pause your recording you'd better
remember you did to either re-start or not pause a recording by axident.
I've done just that. Now I don't wana sound like it's tottaly not usable
at all. I do have 1. It is unusable if you don't like to have headphones
on and again if menus not talking confuses you if you don't have someone
to read them. So tip 1 from me keep headphones handy. This way you can
hear the mics come on if you light them up. Or you can hear if you use
the XLRs weather they are stereo linked or not. I keep asking zoom to
please oh please at least have someone sit in a studio like Olympus did.
Because I think a speach synth would cost more no? Now the F6 is like
the older and at this point some of the cheeper Olympus recorders. It
does beep for starting pausing and stopping recordings, It beeps for low
batteries oh yeah and that's another thing no warning from the H6. It
just saves the file and dies. Yes obviously the screen shows the battery
but again these things don't speak. So in any event back to the F6 for a
second and the F8N for that matter. There's another beep for something
else that I can't remember right now but the point is that those at
least do those few beeps like the earlier before the DS recorders
Olympus. Now you can call the Aira people or use Be My Eyes. That's what
I've done. I also have my neice Abby help me too.

On 5/16/2020 8:24 AM, Mike Busboom wrote:
Hello everyone,

I have been noticing a lot of discussion about the Zoom H6, so I know
that it can be used by blind people. Does anyone know of a podcast which
specifically discusses the level of accessibility of this unit. Does the
unit have voice guidance such as many Olympus recorders, or is there a
different approach to use from a blindness perspective?

With thanks in advance,

Mike







Gena

Call: M0EBP
DMR ID: 2346259
Loc: IO83PS
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Gena

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Re: Olympus DM-720 impressions?

Howard Traxler
 

Tom, have you ever had or had reason to know about the 520?  I'm wondering how much like the 520 is the 720?  I.E., the input jack is shared between mic and line and is located at the business end between the microphones; the audio output jack is 3.5MM and located on the side; the remote control jack is 2.5MM and also on the side; the USB port is also the charging connector and is on the end away from the mics; the power and key lock is a slider on the side near the record, stop and play buttons.  This describes the 520.
.

On 5/18/2020 12:05 PM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
Hello David: I have the Olympus DM-720; it pretty much does what I needed to do; records in at least two formats MP3 and WAB (think it'll do others as well) has been a little while since I have used it! But as I said, it'll do what I need it to do!
Tom Kaufman

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of David Mehler
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2020 12:59 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: [all-audio] Olympus DM-720 impressions?

Hello,

Does anyone have the Olympus DM-720 recorder? If so what are your
impressions of it? What do you like and do not like?

Thanks.
Dave.






Re: Overall accessibility of Zoom H6

Hamit Campos
 

Hi Gena. Better YouTube it as John did a vid on how to do it. But here’s what I seem to remember John saying. As you pull the switch to power up hold the play button down. Wait until that upgrade screen comes up. use the menu lever to go to okay and then I guess just leave it be. Again best YouTube how to upgrade H6 to be safe.

On May 18, 2020, at 2:28 PM, Georgina Joyce <gena@gena-j.me.uk> wrote:

Hello,

Thanks for the heads up. Does anyone know what buttons are required? They have used graphics to show the button to be held while turning on and the button to be pressed to confirm.

Thanks,


On 18 May 2020, at 18:55, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@gmail.com> wrote:

Ah thanks for that. I haven’t checked the Zoom website in a wile. They must’ve written a new firmware at some point. When did you down load this? Well then for whom ever started this thread that’s 1 less worry my friend. Now we’ll know what the hell we’re doing with the thing. Lol! I’ll also have to give Zoom a congrats call. Yes I do that. I did when they did it with the F recorders.
I also said you’ve taken your first step. Like Olympus did. Hopefully you all can get to talking menus and settings at some point.
On May 18, 2020, at 12:56 PM, Aidan <aidan.smarttalk@gmail.com> wrote:
It is werth noticing that you must update the h6 firmware
Then you will find that there are beeps for recording/stopping.

On Sat, 16 May 2020 at 15:10, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Mike. Well if you are like me and get totally lost without speach no
it ain't accessible but for arming and disarming and recording and
stopping. There are no beeps so if you pause your recording you'd better
remember you did to either re-start or not pause a recording by axident.
I've done just that. Now I don't wana sound like it's tottaly not usable
at all. I do have 1. It is unusable if you don't like to have headphones
on and again if menus not talking confuses you if you don't have someone
to read them. So tip 1 from me keep headphones handy. This way you can
hear the mics come on if you light them up. Or you can hear if you use
the XLRs weather they are stereo linked or not. I keep asking zoom to
please oh please at least have someone sit in a studio like Olympus did.
Because I think a speach synth would cost more no? Now the F6 is like
the older and at this point some of the cheeper Olympus recorders. It
does beep for starting pausing and stopping recordings, It beeps for low
batteries oh yeah and that's another thing no warning from the H6. It
just saves the file and dies. Yes obviously the screen shows the battery
but again these things don't speak. So in any event back to the F6 for a
second and the F8N for that matter. There's another beep for something
else that I can't remember right now but the point is that those at
least do those few beeps like the earlier before the DS recorders
Olympus. Now you can call the Aira people or use Be My Eyes. That's what
I've done. I also have my neice Abby help me too.

On 5/16/2020 8:24 AM, Mike Busboom wrote:
Hello everyone,

I have been noticing a lot of discussion about the Zoom H6, so I know
that it can be used by blind people. Does anyone know of a podcast which
specifically discusses the level of accessibility of this unit. Does the
unit have voice guidance such as many Olympus recorders, or is there a
different approach to use from a blindness perspective?

With thanks in advance,

Mike







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Re: Overall accessibility of Zoom H6

Georgina Joyce
 

Hello,

Thanks for the heads up. Does anyone know what buttons are required? They have used graphics to show the button to be held while turning on and the button to be pressed to confirm.

Thanks,


On 18 May 2020, at 18:55, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@gmail.com> wrote:

Ah thanks for that. I haven’t checked the Zoom website in a wile. They must’ve written a new firmware at some point. When did you down load this? Well then for whom ever started this thread that’s 1 less worry my friend. Now we’ll know what the hell we’re doing with the thing. Lol! I’ll also have to give Zoom a congrats call. Yes I do that. I did when they did it with the F recorders.
I also said you’ve taken your first step. Like Olympus did. Hopefully you all can get to talking menus and settings at some point.
On May 18, 2020, at 12:56 PM, Aidan <aidan.smarttalk@gmail.com> wrote:

It is werth noticing that you must update the h6 firmware
Then you will find that there are beeps for recording/stopping.

On Sat, 16 May 2020 at 15:10, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Mike. Well if you are like me and get totally lost without speach no
it ain't accessible but for arming and disarming and recording and
stopping. There are no beeps so if you pause your recording you'd better
remember you did to either re-start or not pause a recording by axident.
I've done just that. Now I don't wana sound like it's tottaly not usable
at all. I do have 1. It is unusable if you don't like to have headphones
on and again if menus not talking confuses you if you don't have someone
to read them. So tip 1 from me keep headphones handy. This way you can
hear the mics come on if you light them up. Or you can hear if you use
the XLRs weather they are stereo linked or not. I keep asking zoom to
please oh please at least have someone sit in a studio like Olympus did.
Because I think a speach synth would cost more no? Now the F6 is like
the older and at this point some of the cheeper Olympus recorders. It
does beep for starting pausing and stopping recordings, It beeps for low
batteries oh yeah and that's another thing no warning from the H6. It
just saves the file and dies. Yes obviously the screen shows the battery
but again these things don't speak. So in any event back to the F6 for a
second and the F8N for that matter. There's another beep for something
else that I can't remember right now but the point is that those at
least do those few beeps like the earlier before the DS recorders
Olympus. Now you can call the Aira people or use Be My Eyes. That's what
I've done. I also have my neice Abby help me too.

On 5/16/2020 8:24 AM, Mike Busboom wrote:
Hello everyone,

I have been noticing a lot of discussion about the Zoom H6, so I know
that it can be used by blind people. Does anyone know of a podcast which
specifically discusses the level of accessibility of this unit. Does the
unit have voice guidance such as many Olympus recorders, or is there a
different approach to use from a blindness perspective?

With thanks in advance,

Mike







Gena

Call: M0EBP
DMR ID: 2346259
Loc: IO83PS
73


Re: Overall accessibility of Zoom H6

Hamit Campos
 

Ah thanks for that. I haven’t checked the Zoom website in a wile. They must’ve written a new firmware at some point. When did you down load this? Well then for whom ever started this thread that’s 1 less worry my friend. Now we’ll know what the hell we’re doing with the thing. Lol! I’ll also have to give Zoom a congrats call. Yes I do that. I did when they did it with the F recorders.
I also said you’ve taken your first step. Like Olympus did. Hopefully you all can get to talking menus and settings at some point.

On May 18, 2020, at 12:56 PM, Aidan <aidan.smarttalk@gmail.com> wrote:

It is werth noticing that you must update the h6 firmware
Then you will find that there are beeps for recording/stopping.

On Sat, 16 May 2020 at 15:10, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Mike. Well if you are like me and get totally lost without speach no
it ain't accessible but for arming and disarming and recording and
stopping. There are no beeps so if you pause your recording you'd better
remember you did to either re-start or not pause a recording by axident.
I've done just that. Now I don't wana sound like it's tottaly not usable
at all. I do have 1. It is unusable if you don't like to have headphones
on and again if menus not talking confuses you if you don't have someone
to read them. So tip 1 from me keep headphones handy. This way you can
hear the mics come on if you light them up. Or you can hear if you use
the XLRs weather they are stereo linked or not. I keep asking zoom to
please oh please at least have someone sit in a studio like Olympus did.
Because I think a speach synth would cost more no? Now the F6 is like
the older and at this point some of the cheeper Olympus recorders. It
does beep for starting pausing and stopping recordings, It beeps for low
batteries oh yeah and that's another thing no warning from the H6. It
just saves the file and dies. Yes obviously the screen shows the battery
but again these things don't speak. So in any event back to the F6 for a
second and the F8N for that matter. There's another beep for something
else that I can't remember right now but the point is that those at
least do those few beeps like the earlier before the DS recorders
Olympus. Now you can call the Aira people or use Be My Eyes. That's what
I've done. I also have my neice Abby help me too.

On 5/16/2020 8:24 AM, Mike Busboom wrote:
Hello everyone,

I have been noticing a lot of discussion about the Zoom H6, so I know
that it can be used by blind people. Does anyone know of a podcast which
specifically discusses the level of accessibility of this unit. Does the
unit have voice guidance such as many Olympus recorders, or is there a
different approach to use from a blindness perspective?

With thanks in advance,

Mike







Re: Olympus DM-720 impressions?

David Mehler
 

Hello,

Thanks, you wouldn't happen to have a demo of it's sound quality would you?

Thanks.
Dave.

On 5/18/20, Tom Kaufman <tomcat53@comcast.net> wrote:
Hello David: I have the Olympus DM-720; it pretty much does what I needed
to do; records in at least two formats MP3 and WAB (think it'll do others as
well) has been a little while since I have used it! But as I said, it'll do
what I need it to do!
Tom Kaufman

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of David
Mehler
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2020 12:59 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: [all-audio] Olympus DM-720 impressions?

Hello,

Does anyone have the Olympus DM-720 recorder? If so what are your
impressions of it? What do you like and do not like?

Thanks.
Dave.








Re: Olympus DM-720 impressions?

Tom Kaufman
 

Hello David: I have the Olympus DM-720; it pretty much does what I needed to do; records in at least two formats MP3 and WAB (think it'll do others as well) has been a little while since I have used it! But as I said, it'll do what I need it to do!
Tom Kaufman

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of David Mehler
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2020 12:59 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: [all-audio] Olympus DM-720 impressions?

Hello,

Does anyone have the Olympus DM-720 recorder? If so what are your
impressions of it? What do you like and do not like?

Thanks.
Dave.


Olympus DM-720 impressions?

David Mehler
 

Hello,

Does anyone have the Olympus DM-720 recorder? If so what are your
impressions of it? What do you like and do not like?

Thanks.
Dave.


Re: Overall accessibility of Zoom H6

Aidan
 

It is werth noticing that you must update the h6 firmware
Then you will find that there are beeps for recording/stopping.

On Sat, 16 May 2020 at 15:10, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Mike. Well if you are like me and get totally lost without speach no
it ain't accessible but for arming and disarming and recording and
stopping. There are no beeps so if you pause your recording you'd better
remember you did to either re-start or not pause a recording by axident.
I've done just that. Now I don't wana sound like it's tottaly not usable
at all. I do have 1. It is unusable if you don't like to have headphones
on and again if menus not talking confuses you if you don't have someone
to read them. So tip 1 from me keep headphones handy. This way you can
hear the mics come on if you light them up. Or you can hear if you use
the XLRs weather they are stereo linked or not. I keep asking zoom to
please oh please at least have someone sit in a studio like Olympus did.
Because I think a speach synth would cost more no? Now the F6 is like
the older and at this point some of the cheeper Olympus recorders. It
does beep for starting pausing and stopping recordings, It beeps for low
batteries oh yeah and that's another thing no warning from the H6. It
just saves the file and dies. Yes obviously the screen shows the battery
but again these things don't speak. So in any event back to the F6 for a
second and the F8N for that matter. There's another beep for something
else that I can't remember right now but the point is that those at
least do those few beeps like the earlier before the DS recorders
Olympus. Now you can call the Aira people or use Be My Eyes. That's what
I've done. I also have my neice Abby help me too.

On 5/16/2020 8:24 AM, Mike Busboom wrote:
Hello everyone,

I have been noticing a lot of discussion about the Zoom H6, so I know
that it can be used by blind people. Does anyone know of a podcast which
specifically discusses the level of accessibility of this unit. Does the
unit have voice guidance such as many Olympus recorders, or is there a
different approach to use from a blindness perspective?

With thanks in advance,

Mike






Re: olympus recorders

Aidan
 

Yes i love the ls100 and also wish i got it. I do have the ls14 though, and
its a very unique recorder because it have the ability to make use of both
standby recording and instant recording when using auto gain moad. It also
can split files when recording in wave in realtime dearing recording. I
also like it that it have a seprit line in jack.
One thing of the ls100 wich is great is that although the multi track
functions didn't speak, it is very possible to use them.

On Sun, 17 May 2020 at 02:29, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@gmail.com> wrote:

Whom is this distributor? I wander if they would know why Olympus got
rid of the 100. It was so epic! If only it had the smart mode of the
ls-14. Smrt mode by the way is this mode where you go into recording
stand buy. But the mics come on super low because they are listening for
something loud. So you then make the loudest noise you are going to
record and hit the recored button as you do this. The recorder now opens
the mics fully but at a level that should be propper for what you are
recording.

On 5/16/2020 2:23 PM, Howard Traxler wrote:
Thank you Hamit, for your thoughts. Talking with the Olympus
distributor, I got the impression that the 720 was just like the 520.
Any time I used the 520 for music, I either transferred the files to
my computer or just connected the 520 directly to my stereo. To my
old ears, it sounded as good as I could want.

On 5/16/2020 12:29 PM, Hamit Campos wrote:
Ah hi Howard. Ah the good old trusty DM-520. I too had 1. I had the
420 before. Meh I don't know why Olympus made 2. They were basically
the same thing but the 520 did a few more things and the reason I
prefered it is that it did LPCM WAV. Of course only at CD or DVD
quality. But hay DVD is better then your usual Olympus stuff. The 720
like the P-4 takes 1 triple A and is small. The sound of the 720 and
the LS-p4 is too mini me for my liking. I'm sure 1 can get these
older recorders on Ebay. Hell I've even seen the DM-620 on Amazon.

On 5/16/2020 1:24 PM, Howard Traxler wrote:
I bought an Olympus DM-520 (I think was the number) about ten years
ago. It was a great tiny device and I used it to record everything.
Recently, the power slide switch has stopped working. It's a
mechanical switch with some sort of spring to make it return to a
center position. Contacting the Olympus distribution point, I found
that they no longer support that model and they suggest I purchase a
DM-720 as a replacement. After the covid thing goes away, I will
have a friend take a look at the switch. If he can't do anything
with it, I'll see if I can justify buying the newer model.

Howard

On 5/16/2020 11:38 AM, David Mehler wrote:
Hello,

I am still in the market for a new recorder. I did look at zooms but
I'm needing menu accessibility with my recorder, I'm not really
needing an app or anything like that I am just looking for a
standalone recorder.

What are opinions on current Olympus recorders?

Thanks.
Dave.






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Re: A Zoom question.

Joe Paton
 

Colin,
I think it was called the life-cam, from Microsoft.
You will be verry lucky to buy anything in U K outlets at present.

A big shortage due to the accelleration of online meetings and so on.
requiring camera and mic kits.
So much so, that a company we work with, have bought there employees
laptops, and are using the in-built web cams and microphones because
they can not locate any camera's or microphones for remote working.
But when available, The Microsoft Life-cam, retailed for about 28 uk
pounds, and really easy to set up, clips to the top edge of your monitor.
Plug and play, beeing microsoft, drivers already on most windows 7, 8
and windows 10 systems.
Good luck.

A reasonable microphone for the job you want it to do.


Re: F6 reviews

Georgina Joyce
 

Hello All,

You will note that Curtis favoured the Sound Devices MixPre-3 II over the Zoom F6. On build and the remote for the F6 is very expensive. The Sound Devices machine doesn’t have a dedicated one but several cheaper third party ones are available. Curtis found the F6 too small and the plastic knobs wobble and as he pointed out if they are mounted on a circuit board then it is a weak design. I have written to Sound Devices to see if their IOS and Android apps are accessible to screen readers.

Regards,


On 18 May 2020, at 12:59, Andy via groups.io <meikle.aiden=btinternet.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hi guys.

I wouldn't mind Johnaphins demo. I hear that the Mossion Explosion has done some very interesting podcasts.

Is there a subscrib link perhaps or a e-mail address available.

Andy.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Hamit Campos" <hamitcampos@gmail.com>
To: <all-audio@groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020 9:24 PM
Subject: Re: [all-audio] F6 reviews


Hi Frank. Ha that’s interesting. As over dubbing isn’t a thing I do I missed that. Strange as Zooms are musician based mostly. Did Curtis giv any reason why? I’ll have to listen to his review again. But bro me wants an F6. I know I’ll want it more after Neal demos his Rode NT1-A on it.
On May 17, 2020, at 4:17 PM, frank cuta <cuta@bentonrea.com> wrote:

After listening to the review of the F6 on mosen at large I was all ready to
sell my H6 and replace it. However after listening to the Curtis Judd
review on you tube I am having secondthoughts. Curtis claims that its not
a good primary deck for musicians because it will not permit you to overlay
tracks. I hope that I am misunderstanding something here. Why would anyone
build a multitrack recorder that would not let you do sound on sound.
Frank








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Re: F6 reviews

Georgina Joyce
 

Hello,

http://TheBlindSide.libsyn.com/rss <http://theblindside.libsyn.com/rss>

Read about it:

https://mosen.org/mosenatlarge/

The review is issue 35.


On 18 May 2020, at 12:59, Andy via groups.io <meikle.aiden=btinternet.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hi guys.

I wouldn't mind Johnaphins demo. I hear that the Mossion Explosion has done some very interesting podcasts.

Is there a subscrib link perhaps or a e-mail address available.

Andy.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Hamit Campos" <hamitcampos@gmail.com>
To: <all-audio@groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020 9:24 PM
Subject: Re: [all-audio] F6 reviews


Hi Frank. Ha that’s interesting. As over dubbing isn’t a thing I do I missed that. Strange as Zooms are musician based mostly. Did Curtis giv any reason why? I’ll have to listen to his review again. But bro me wants an F6. I know I’ll want it more after Neal demos his Rode NT1-A on it.
On May 17, 2020, at 4:17 PM, frank cuta <cuta@bentonrea.com> wrote:

After listening to the review of the F6 on mosen at large I was all ready to
sell my H6 and replace it. However after listening to the Curtis Judd
review on you tube I am having secondthoughts. Curtis claims that its not
a good primary deck for musicians because it will not permit you to overlay
tracks. I hope that I am misunderstanding something here. Why would anyone
build a multitrack recorder that would not let you do sound on sound.
Frank








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