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Re: Microphones for Zoom

Georgina Joyce
 

Hello Andy,

If you were able to watch a television would you want to stand back and get the whole picture with reasonable detail. Then you want a omnidirectional microphone that you can protect from the weather. As some condenser mics are easily destroyed by moisture. So on that logic you are looking at a dynamic omnidirectional. The quality is dependent upon the size of your wallet.

However, if you want more detailed image then you would get closer to the television and just focus upon a smaller area but at greater death and detail. The Shotguns would record birds in a small group of trees not one bird in a particular tree as others have suggested. The cardioid pattern is like imagining the mic has a funnel on the end of it. So the further from the mic the wider the spread. But never to its sides or back. Thus if you had a noisy road or farm machinery you could place the mic so those sources are behind the mic.

It is fun to try different microphones and see what harvests your fields. If you do use a quiet dynamic microphone you might want to consider using a fethead so that you don’t have to crank up those pre-amps. They are really terrible on the H6.

Regards,





On 12 May 2020, at 18:33, Andy via groups.io <meikle.aiden@...> wrote:

Hi all.

Getting more confused as the day goes on.

The Road NT1 is a no-no as I normally listen to sounds in sterio - it's just the way I am. Perhaps the NT1 is a fantastic Podcast microphone, but just about everything that I'm keen on recording requires a degree of width,

I'm totally not interested in recording a single bird, though I can see the attraction if making a collection of birds inone country or area.

Know, for a down chorus I'd be looking for a sterio outdoor microphone with a wide spread.

For example, here is a sample of my own International Dawn Chorus, recorded at my farm on the 3 May, using the Zoom H6 with the clip on right angle microphone.


Can you guess what is wrong with my recording?

https://www.sendspace.com/file/ox1jos

I have now purchased the newer Zoom F8n and wish a XLR sterio Microphone with a very good Dead Cat because my place is about 300 feet above the River Clyde, so is rather windy. - What do they use in Texas???

Hamit suggests that if the Nt1 is not for me, then perhaps I should look at the NT4. So I looked it up in Accessable Youtube .

It's about £600 and is a USB microphone, which I think would make it a good podcasting microphone, for a home studio computer.

So I'm at a bit of a loss at the moment and need to give it a lote more consideration.

Perhaps I can find out what I'm looking for using the link: How to Record Bird Songs and Calls - Nature Recording | Audubon, provided earlier today by Gena.



Very best wishes.

Andy.



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Original Message ----- From: "Georgina Joyce" <gena@...>
To: <all-audio@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom


Hello John,

Fare point, as Andrew had done some research and considered that a shotgun might be the solution I thought he was wanting to focus upon one bird or those birds in a small area. As I pointed out the pickup area is shown as a heart shape. The number of channels does not express the polar pattern. If Andrew wants to record a wide stage then that is an omnidirectional microphone he requires. Not a stereo unless it is omnidirectional. Of course, if andrew wants that binaural affect then again it is something else. Thus there are plenty of options for Andy and many choices and it is for him to decide what the end result is that he requires. i.e. What size stage does Andy want?

There is a youtube reviewer of microphones who dances around the microphones so you can hear the extent of the pattern.

Regards,
On 12 May 2020, at 15:43, John Gurd via groups.io <j.gurd@...> wrote:

I had a look at the link. Most bird watchers want to focus-record an individual bird song sometimes out of many background songs. A dawn Chorus is all the birds in the area - not just a single bird. As Hamit suggests a stereo mike might be more likely to do this successfully.

PS: last time I heard Andy was living in rural Scotland, so maybe not a big garden, but a lot of habitat. I know birds are territorial, but they tend to sing from adjoining gardens to, and I'm sure Andy isn't so possessive he only wants the birds singing in just his garden alone. You'll find a dawn chorus is just as big weather heard from a small garden or an estate for that very reason. 😉

John

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Georgina Joyce
Sent: 12 May 2020 14:41
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom

Hello John,

They don’t cut out sharply it’s usually shown as a heart shape tapering down to the point. Obviously, Andy has done some research and his post caused me to do so as I use a shotgun in the booth. Andy did not want ambient sound. He wanted to record bird song from his garden. Unless he lives in a huge estate it is not going to be that wide of a field. I found that bird watchers use a shotgun mic although this is with a camera. Even professional sound recordist uses a shotgun. See this:

https://www.audubon.org/news/a-beginners-guide-recording-bird-vocalizations

Regards,


On 12 May 2020, at 14:20, John Gurd via groups.io <j.gurd@...> wrote:

From what I've read a shot-gun mike is so directional that even being off-target a little will result in poor quality sound. I doubt it would be the best for ambient recordings.

John


-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Georgina Joyce
Sent: 11 May 2020 14:16
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom

Hello Andy,

It is down to you and how much you want to spend. I follow the Booth Junky who uses a shotgun microphone a lot. He uses the Sennheiser MKH-416. I haven’t been able to afford one of those but I do have the MKH-166 which I purchased used from eBay. I absolutely love it and is my mic of choice. I think that would really do the job.

Regards,




On 11 May 2020, at 13:25, Andy via groups.io <meikle.aiden@...> wrote:

Hi all.

I've got both the Zoom H6 and the F8n, but the only microphones I have are the 2 clip on ones that I origionally got with the H6.

I'm wanting to record the Dawn Chorus in my garden but don't have a clue as to which microphone , or best type, to buy and where to buy it.

I think I need a directional Shot-gun microphone with a large Dead-Cat windscreen, and also about 3 meters of cable with the appropriate XLR plugs.

Can anyone please give me some advice.

Also, My Zoom H6 is playing up. I think I've changed an inportant option within the menues. I tried recording bird calls and the recording was extremely poor. Is there perhaps a function within the H6 that Re-sets the device back to factory settings.

I hope you are all okay and enjoying this period of noise pelution silence to get very nice recordings. If so I'd love to here some samples.

Very best wishes and please take care of yourselves.

Andy Logue from Scotland.






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Re: Microphones for Zoom

Georgina Joyce
 

Hello Hamit,

Here’s a review of a Lewitt which he suggests is in competition with the AT2035. I am not sure about his expertise as he does not go into so much detail as The Booth Junky. But these videos are far more entertaining.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUbshNcBKP8

Regards,

On 12 May 2020, at 19:17, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

Who is this guy that dances around the mics?

On 5/12/2020 12:02 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
Hello John,

Fare point, as Andrew had done some research and considered that a shotgun might be the solution I thought he was wanting to focus upon one bird or those birds in a small area. As I pointed out the pickup area is shown as a heart shape. The number of channels does not express the polar pattern. If Andrew wants to record a wide stage then that is an omnidirectional microphone he requires. Not a stereo unless it is omnidirectional. Of course, if andrew wants that binaural affect then again it is something else. Thus there are plenty of options for Andy and many choices and it is for him to decide what the end result is that he requires. i.e. What size stage does Andy want?

There is a youtube reviewer of microphones who dances around the microphones so you can hear the extent of the pattern.

Regards,
On 12 May 2020, at 15:43, John Gurd via groups.io <j.gurd@...> wrote:

I had a look at the link. Most bird watchers want to focus-record an individual bird song sometimes out of many background songs. A dawn Chorus is all the birds in the area - not just a single bird. As Hamit suggests a stereo mike might be more likely to do this successfully.

PS: last time I heard Andy was living in rural Scotland, so maybe not a big garden, but a lot of habitat. I know birds are territorial, but they tend to sing from adjoining gardens to, and I'm sure Andy isn't so possessive he only wants the birds singing in just his garden alone. You'll find a dawn chorus is just as big weather heard from a small garden or an estate for that very reason. 😉

John

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Georgina Joyce
Sent: 12 May 2020 14:41
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom

Hello John,

They don’t cut out sharply it’s usually shown as a heart shape tapering down to the point. Obviously, Andy has done some research and his post caused me to do so as I use a shotgun in the booth. Andy did not want ambient sound. He wanted to record bird song from his garden. Unless he lives in a huge estate it is not going to be that wide of a field. I found that bird watchers use a shotgun mic although this is with a camera. Even professional sound recordist uses a shotgun. See this:

https://www.audubon.org/news/a-beginners-guide-recording-bird-vocalizations

Regards,


On 12 May 2020, at 14:20, John Gurd via groups.io <j.gurd@...> wrote:

From what I've read a shot-gun mike is so directional that even being off-target a little will result in poor quality sound. I doubt it would be the best for ambient recordings.

John


-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Georgina Joyce
Sent: 11 May 2020 14:16
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom

Hello Andy,

It is down to you and how much you want to spend. I follow the Booth Junky who uses a shotgun microphone a lot. He uses the Sennheiser MKH-416. I haven’t been able to afford one of those but I do have the MKH-166 which I purchased used from eBay. I absolutely love it and is my mic of choice. I think that would really do the job.

Regards,




On 11 May 2020, at 13:25, Andy via groups.io <meikle.aiden@...> wrote:

Hi all.

I've got both the Zoom H6 and the F8n, but the only microphones I have are the 2 clip on ones that I origionally got with the H6.

I'm wanting to record the Dawn Chorus in my garden but don't have a clue as to which microphone , or best type, to buy and where to buy it.

I think I need a directional Shot-gun microphone with a large Dead-Cat windscreen, and also about 3 meters of cable with the appropriate XLR plugs.

Can anyone please give me some advice.

Also, My Zoom H6 is playing up. I think I've changed an inportant option within the menues. I tried recording bird calls and the recording was extremely poor. Is there perhaps a function within the H6 that Re-sets the device back to factory settings.

I hope you are all okay and enjoying this period of noise pelution silence to get very nice recordings. If so I'd love to here some samples.

Very best wishes and please take care of yourselves.

Andy Logue from Scotland.






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Re: recommendations for a mic for iPhone 8 ?

tim cumings
 

I would recommend the mxl mm-130. It is a handheld microphone which connects directly to your iphone and has both cardioid

and omni polar patterns.

On 5/12/2020 11:49 AM, Tony Sweeney wrote:
    Hi folk,


New to here from Ireland.


Forgive if this question was asked before.


I'm looking for a reasonably-priced mic (about 100 euro (dollar) for my iPhone 8 for one-to-one chats and possibly in time podcasts.


The recordings hopefully  will in time be going out on Facebook so I'm not sure if  a stereo or mono is what I need but open to suggestions as to type and make.


Thanks in advance,


Best,


Tony Sweeney

On 12/05/2020 16:35, Anders Holmberg wrote:
Hi!
Yeah i got a mic for my Iphone which is really cute and great.
I think you have to use the app that’s specially made for the mic but thats accessible so that’s not a big issue.
/A

11 maj 2020 kl. 23:43 skrev Georgina Joyce <gena@...>:

Hello,

Use a smart phone with a better mic.

Regards,
On 11 May 2020, at 21:47, David Mehler <dave.mehler@...> wrote:

Hello,

Mainly I'm looking for podcast creation/lecture recordings. I'm very
out of touch with newer recorders so I don't know features to ask for
or which I really wouldn't need, what features are on modern
recorders?

Thanks.
Dave.


On 5/11/20, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@... <mailto:hamitcampos@...>> wrote:
What would you like your new recorder to have or do? I don't know what
replaces the DS 50.

On 5/11/2020 11:24 AM, David Mehler wrote:
Hello,

My Olympus DS50 has given up the ghost. I am now in the market for a
new recorder and would appreciate recommendations.

Thanks.
Dave.



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Re: Microphones for Zoom

Hamit Campos
 

Who is this guy that dances around the mics?

On 5/12/2020 12:02 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
Hello John,

Fare point, as Andrew had done some research and considered that a shotgun might be the solution I thought he was wanting to focus upon one bird or those birds in a small area. As I pointed out the pickup area is shown as a heart shape. The number of channels does not express the polar pattern. If Andrew wants to record a wide stage then that is an omnidirectional microphone he requires. Not a stereo unless it is omnidirectional. Of course, if andrew wants that binaural affect then again it is something else. Thus there are plenty of options for Andy and many choices and it is for him to decide what the end result is that he requires. i.e. What size stage does Andy want?

There is a youtube reviewer of microphones who dances around the microphones so you can hear the extent of the pattern.

Regards,
On 12 May 2020, at 15:43, John Gurd via groups.io <j.gurd@...> wrote:

I had a look at the link. Most bird watchers want to focus-record an individual bird song sometimes out of many background songs. A dawn Chorus is all the birds in the area - not just a single bird. As Hamit suggests a stereo mike might be more likely to do this successfully.

PS: last time I heard Andy was living in rural Scotland, so maybe not a big garden, but a lot of habitat. I know birds are territorial, but they tend to sing from adjoining gardens to, and I'm sure Andy isn't so possessive he only wants the birds singing in just his garden alone. You'll find a dawn chorus is just as big weather heard from a small garden or an estate for that very reason. 😉

John

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Georgina Joyce
Sent: 12 May 2020 14:41
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom

Hello John,

They don’t cut out sharply it’s usually shown as a heart shape tapering down to the point. Obviously, Andy has done some research and his post caused me to do so as I use a shotgun in the booth. Andy did not want ambient sound. He wanted to record bird song from his garden. Unless he lives in a huge estate it is not going to be that wide of a field. I found that bird watchers use a shotgun mic although this is with a camera. Even professional sound recordist uses a shotgun. See this:

https://www.audubon.org/news/a-beginners-guide-recording-bird-vocalizations

Regards,


On 12 May 2020, at 14:20, John Gurd via groups.io <j.gurd@...> wrote:

From what I've read a shot-gun mike is so directional that even being off-target a little will result in poor quality sound. I doubt it would be the best for ambient recordings.

John


-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Georgina Joyce
Sent: 11 May 2020 14:16
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom

Hello Andy,

It is down to you and how much you want to spend. I follow the Booth Junky who uses a shotgun microphone a lot. He uses the Sennheiser MKH-416. I haven’t been able to afford one of those but I do have the MKH-166 which I purchased used from eBay. I absolutely love it and is my mic of choice. I think that would really do the job.

Regards,




On 11 May 2020, at 13:25, Andy via groups.io <meikle.aiden@...> wrote:

Hi all.

I've got both the Zoom H6 and the F8n, but the only microphones I have are the 2 clip on ones that I origionally got with the H6.

I'm wanting to record the Dawn Chorus in my garden but don't have a clue as to which microphone , or best type, to buy and where to buy it.

I think I need a directional Shot-gun microphone with a large Dead-Cat windscreen, and also about 3 meters of cable with the appropriate XLR plugs.

Can anyone please give me some advice.

Also, My Zoom H6 is playing up. I think I've changed an inportant option within the menues. I tried recording bird calls and the recording was extremely poor. Is there perhaps a function within the H6 that Re-sets the device back to factory settings.

I hope you are all okay and enjoying this period of noise pelution silence to get very nice recordings. If so I'd love to here some samples.

Very best wishes and please take care of yourselves.

Andy Logue from Scotland.






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Re: recommendations for a mic for iPhone 8 ?

Tony Sweeney <tonymsweeney@...>
 

Hi folk,


New to here from Ireland.


Forgive if this question was asked before.


I'm looking for a reasonably-priced mic (about 100 euro (dollar) for my iPhone 8 for one-to-one chats and possibly in time podcasts.


The recordings hopefully  will in time be going out on Facebook so I'm not sure if  a stereo or mono is what I need but open to suggestions as to type and make.


Thanks in advance,


Best,


Tony Sweeney

On 12/05/2020 16:35, Anders Holmberg wrote:
Hi!
Yeah i got a mic for my Iphone which is really cute and great.
I think you have to use the app that’s specially made for the mic but thats accessible so that’s not a big issue.
/A

11 maj 2020 kl. 23:43 skrev Georgina Joyce <gena@...>:

Hello,

Use a smart phone with a better mic.

Regards,
On 11 May 2020, at 21:47, David Mehler <dave.mehler@...> wrote:

Hello,

Mainly I'm looking for podcast creation/lecture recordings. I'm very
out of touch with newer recorders so I don't know features to ask for
or which I really wouldn't need, what features are on modern
recorders?

Thanks.
Dave.


On 5/11/20, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@... <mailto:hamitcampos@...>> wrote:
What would you like your new recorder to have or do? I don't know what
replaces the DS 50.

On 5/11/2020 11:24 AM, David Mehler wrote:
Hello,

My Olympus DS50 has given up the ghost. I am now in the market for a
new recorder and would appreciate recommendations.

Thanks.
Dave.



Gena

Call: M0EBP
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Re: Microphones for Zoom

Hamit Campos
 

Ah then yeah depending on how much you can spend the NT1 or older and crisper NT1-A are a no go as you'd need 2 and you'd need to link them together on either zoom. I could tell you how and infact since then I'll recommend my AT-8022 since it is 1 mic with 2 modded AT-4021 capsels in it it'll show up as 2 seperate mics. So what you do is connect the left XLR into either the front left or right plug on the H6. The right 1 goes in the XLR towards the back of therecorder. So the XLR closer to the card reader if you wana use the left side. Closer to the lever for the menus if the right. Now you have to use the buttons that are numbered 1 threw 4. If you use the left side of the recorder you hold down the button 1 which is to the right of the R button. So it's the third button on the recorder. Whilst doing this press the 1 to it's right. Now you have linked them in stereo. Have someone to see? Because I recommend doing all this work so you use the XLRs and phantum power to get the most of the 8022.

On 5/12/2020 1:33 PM, Andy via groups.io wrote:
Hi all.

Getting more confused as the day goes on.

The Road NT1 is a no-no as I normally listen to sounds in sterio - it's just the way I am.  Perhaps the NT1 is a fantastic Podcast microphone, but just about everything that I'm keen on recording requires a degree of width,

I'm totally not interested in recording a single bird, though I can see the attraction if making a collection  of birds inone country or area.

Know, for a down chorus I'd be looking for a sterio outdoor microphone with a wide spread.

For example, here is a sample of my own International Dawn Chorus, recorded at my farm on the 3 May, using the Zoom H6 with the clip on right angle microphone.


Can you guess what is wrong with my  recording?

https://www.sendspace.com/file/ox1jos

I have now purchased the newer Zoom F8n and wish a XLR sterio Microphone with a very good Dead Cat because my place is about 300 feet above the River Clyde, so is rather windy.  -  What do they use in Texas???

Hamit suggests that if the Nt1 is not for me, then perhaps  I should look at the NT4.  So I looked it up in Accessable Youtube .

It's about £600 and is a USB microphone, which I think would make it a good podcasting microphone, for a  home studio computer.

So I'm at a bit of a loss at the moment and need to give it a lote more consideration.

Perhaps I can find out what I'm looking for using the link: How to Record Bird Songs and Calls - Nature Recording | Audubon, provided earlier today by Gena.



Very best wishes.

Andy.



for -----



Original Message ----- From: "Georgina Joyce" <gena@...>
To: <all-audio@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom


Hello John,

Fare point, as Andrew had done some research and considered that a shotgun might be the solution I thought he was wanting to focus upon one bird or those birds in a small area. As I pointed out the pickup area is shown as a heart shape. The number of channels does not express the polar pattern. If Andrew wants to record a wide stage then that is an omnidirectional microphone he requires. Not a stereo unless it is omnidirectional. Of course, if andrew wants that binaural affect then again it is something else. Thus there are plenty of options for Andy and many choices and it is for him to decide what the end result is that he requires. i.e. What size stage does Andy want?

There is a youtube reviewer of microphones who dances around the microphones so you can hear the extent of the pattern.

Regards,
On 12 May 2020, at 15:43, John Gurd via groups.io <j.gurd@...> wrote:

I had a look at the link. Most bird watchers want to focus-record an individual bird song  sometimes out of many background songs. A dawn Chorus is all the birds in the area - not just a single bird. As Hamit suggests a stereo mike might be more likely to do this successfully.

PS: last time I heard Andy was living in rural Scotland, so maybe not a big garden, but a lot of habitat. I know birds are territorial, but they tend to sing from adjoining gardens to, and I'm sure Andy isn't so possessive he only wants the birds singing in just his garden alone. You'll find a dawn chorus is just as big weather heard from a small garden or an estate for that very reason. 😉

John

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Georgina Joyce
Sent: 12 May 2020 14:41
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom

Hello John,

They don’t cut out sharply it’s usually shown as a heart shape tapering down to the point. Obviously, Andy has done some research and his post caused me to do so as I use a shotgun in the booth. Andy did not want ambient sound. He wanted to record bird song from his garden. Unless he lives in a huge estate it is not going to be that wide of a field. I found that bird watchers use a shotgun mic although this is with a camera. Even professional sound recordist uses a shotgun. See this:

https://www.audubon.org/news/a-beginners-guide-recording-bird-vocalizations

Regards,


On 12 May 2020, at 14:20, John Gurd via groups.io <j.gurd@...> wrote:

From what I've read a shot-gun mike is so directional that even being off-target a little will result in poor quality sound. I doubt it would be the best for ambient recordings.

John


-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Georgina Joyce
Sent: 11 May 2020 14:16
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom

Hello Andy,

It is down to you and how much you want to spend. I follow the Booth Junky who uses a shotgun microphone a lot. He uses the Sennheiser MKH-416. I haven’t been able to afford one of those but I do have the MKH-166 which I purchased used from eBay. I absolutely love it and is my mic of choice. I think that would really do the job.

Regards,




On 11 May 2020, at 13:25, Andy via groups.io <meikle.aiden@...> wrote:

Hi all.

I've got both the Zoom H6 and the F8n, but the only microphones I have are the 2 clip on ones that I origionally got with the H6.

I'm wanting to record the Dawn Chorus in my garden but don't have a clue as to which microphone , or best type, to buy and where to buy it.

I think I need a directional Shot-gun microphone with a large Dead-Cat windscreen, and also about 3 meters of cable with the appropriate XLR plugs.

Can anyone please give me some advice.

Also, My Zoom H6 is playing up.  I think I've changed an inportant option within the menues.  I tried recording bird calls and the recording was extremely poor.  Is there perhaps a function within the H6 that Re-sets the device back to factory settings.

I hope you are all okay and enjoying this period of noise pelution silence to get very nice recordings.  If so I'd love to here some samples.

Very best wishes and please take care of yourselves.

Andy Logue from Scotland.






Gena

Call: M0EBP
DMR ID: 2346259
Loc: IO83PS
73







Gena

Call: M0EBP
DMR ID: 2346259
Loc: IO83PS
73







Gena

Call: M0EBP
DMR ID: 2346259
Loc: IO83PS
73






Re: Microphones for Zoom

Andy
 

Hi all.

Getting more confused as the day goes on.

The Road NT1 is a no-no as I normally listen to sounds in sterio - it's just the way I am. Perhaps the NT1 is a fantastic Podcast microphone, but just about everything that I'm keen on recording requires a degree of width,

I'm totally not interested in recording a single bird, though I can see the attraction if making a collection of birds inone country or area.

Know, for a down chorus I'd be looking for a sterio outdoor microphone with a wide spread.

For example, here is a sample of my own International Dawn Chorus, recorded at my farm on the 3 May, using the Zoom H6 with the clip on right angle microphone.


Can you guess what is wrong with my recording?

https://www.sendspace.com/file/ox1jos

I have now purchased the newer Zoom F8n and wish a XLR sterio Microphone with a very good Dead Cat because my place is about 300 feet above the River Clyde, so is rather windy. - What do they use in Texas???

Hamit suggests that if the Nt1 is not for me, then perhaps I should look at the NT4. So I looked it up in Accessable Youtube .

It's about £600 and is a USB microphone, which I think would make it a good podcasting microphone, for a home studio computer.

So I'm at a bit of a loss at the moment and need to give it a lote more consideration.

Perhaps I can find out what I'm looking for using the link: How to Record Bird Songs and Calls - Nature Recording | Audubon, provided earlier today by Gena.



Very best wishes.

Andy.



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Original Message -----
From: "Georgina Joyce" <gena@...>
To: <all-audio@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom


Hello John,

Fare point, as Andrew had done some research and considered that a shotgun might be the solution I thought he was wanting to focus upon one bird or those birds in a small area. As I pointed out the pickup area is shown as a heart shape. The number of channels does not express the polar pattern. If Andrew wants to record a wide stage then that is an omnidirectional microphone he requires. Not a stereo unless it is omnidirectional. Of course, if andrew wants that binaural affect then again it is something else. Thus there are plenty of options for Andy and many choices and it is for him to decide what the end result is that he requires. i.e. What size stage does Andy want?

There is a youtube reviewer of microphones who dances around the microphones so you can hear the extent of the pattern.

Regards,
On 12 May 2020, at 15:43, John Gurd via groups.io <j.gurd@...> wrote:

I had a look at the link. Most bird watchers want to focus-record an individual bird song sometimes out of many background songs. A dawn Chorus is all the birds in the area - not just a single bird. As Hamit suggests a stereo mike might be more likely to do this successfully.

PS: last time I heard Andy was living in rural Scotland, so maybe not a big garden, but a lot of habitat. I know birds are territorial, but they tend to sing from adjoining gardens to, and I'm sure Andy isn't so possessive he only wants the birds singing in just his garden alone. You'll find a dawn chorus is just as big weather heard from a small garden or an estate for that very reason. 😉

John

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Georgina Joyce
Sent: 12 May 2020 14:41
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom

Hello John,

They don’t cut out sharply it’s usually shown as a heart shape tapering down to the point. Obviously, Andy has done some research and his post caused me to do so as I use a shotgun in the booth. Andy did not want ambient sound. He wanted to record bird song from his garden. Unless he lives in a huge estate it is not going to be that wide of a field. I found that bird watchers use a shotgun mic although this is with a camera. Even professional sound recordist uses a shotgun. See this:

https://www.audubon.org/news/a-beginners-guide-recording-bird-vocalizations

Regards,


On 12 May 2020, at 14:20, John Gurd via groups.io <j.gurd@...> wrote:

From what I've read a shot-gun mike is so directional that even being off-target a little will result in poor quality sound. I doubt it would be the best for ambient recordings.

John


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: 11 May 2020 14:16
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom

Hello Andy,

It is down to you and how much you want to spend. I follow the Booth Junky who uses a shotgun microphone a lot. He uses the Sennheiser MKH-416. I haven’t been able to afford one of those but I do have the MKH-166 which I purchased used from eBay. I absolutely love it and is my mic of choice. I think that would really do the job.

Regards,




On 11 May 2020, at 13:25, Andy via groups.io <meikle.aiden@...> wrote:

Hi all.

I've got both the Zoom H6 and the F8n, but the only microphones I have are the 2 clip on ones that I origionally got with the H6.

I'm wanting to record the Dawn Chorus in my garden but don't have a clue as to which microphone , or best type, to buy and where to buy it.

I think I need a directional Shot-gun microphone with a large Dead-Cat windscreen, and also about 3 meters of cable with the appropriate XLR plugs.

Can anyone please give me some advice.

Also, My Zoom H6 is playing up. I think I've changed an inportant option within the menues. I tried recording bird calls and the recording was extremely poor. Is there perhaps a function within the H6 that Re-sets the device back to factory settings.

I hope you are all okay and enjoying this period of noise pelution silence to get very nice recordings. If so I'd love to here some samples.

Very best wishes and please take care of yourselves.

Andy Logue from Scotland.






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Re: Microphones for Zoom

Georgina Joyce
 

Hello John,

Fare point, as Andrew had done some research and considered that a shotgun might be the solution I thought he was wanting to focus upon one bird or those birds in a small area. As I pointed out the pickup area is shown as a heart shape. The number of channels does not express the polar pattern. If Andrew wants to record a wide stage then that is an omnidirectional microphone he requires. Not a stereo unless it is omnidirectional. Of course, if andrew wants that binaural affect then again it is something else. Thus there are plenty of options for Andy and many choices and it is for him to decide what the end result is that he requires. i.e. What size stage does Andy want?

There is a youtube reviewer of microphones who dances around the microphones so you can hear the extent of the pattern.

Regards,
On 12 May 2020, at 15:43, John Gurd via groups.io <j.gurd@...> wrote:

I had a look at the link. Most bird watchers want to focus-record an individual bird song sometimes out of many background songs. A dawn Chorus is all the birds in the area - not just a single bird. As Hamit suggests a stereo mike might be more likely to do this successfully.

PS: last time I heard Andy was living in rural Scotland, so maybe not a big garden, but a lot of habitat. I know birds are territorial, but they tend to sing from adjoining gardens to, and I'm sure Andy isn't so possessive he only wants the birds singing in just his garden alone. You'll find a dawn chorus is just as big weather heard from a small garden or an estate for that very reason. 😉

John

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Georgina Joyce
Sent: 12 May 2020 14:41
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom

Hello John,

They don’t cut out sharply it’s usually shown as a heart shape tapering down to the point. Obviously, Andy has done some research and his post caused me to do so as I use a shotgun in the booth. Andy did not want ambient sound. He wanted to record bird song from his garden. Unless he lives in a huge estate it is not going to be that wide of a field. I found that bird watchers use a shotgun mic although this is with a camera. Even professional sound recordist uses a shotgun. See this:

https://www.audubon.org/news/a-beginners-guide-recording-bird-vocalizations

Regards,


On 12 May 2020, at 14:20, John Gurd via groups.io <j.gurd@...> wrote:

From what I've read a shot-gun mike is so directional that even being off-target a little will result in poor quality sound. I doubt it would be the best for ambient recordings.

John


-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Georgina Joyce
Sent: 11 May 2020 14:16
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom

Hello Andy,

It is down to you and how much you want to spend. I follow the Booth Junky who uses a shotgun microphone a lot. He uses the Sennheiser MKH-416. I haven’t been able to afford one of those but I do have the MKH-166 which I purchased used from eBay. I absolutely love it and is my mic of choice. I think that would really do the job.

Regards,




On 11 May 2020, at 13:25, Andy via groups.io <meikle.aiden@...> wrote:

Hi all.

I've got both the Zoom H6 and the F8n, but the only microphones I have are the 2 clip on ones that I origionally got with the H6.

I'm wanting to record the Dawn Chorus in my garden but don't have a clue as to which microphone , or best type, to buy and where to buy it.

I think I need a directional Shot-gun microphone with a large Dead-Cat windscreen, and also about 3 meters of cable with the appropriate XLR plugs.

Can anyone please give me some advice.

Also, My Zoom H6 is playing up. I think I've changed an inportant option within the menues. I tried recording bird calls and the recording was extremely poor. Is there perhaps a function within the H6 that Re-sets the device back to factory settings.

I hope you are all okay and enjoying this period of noise pelution silence to get very nice recordings. If so I'd love to here some samples.

Very best wishes and please take care of yourselves.

Andy Logue from Scotland.






Gena

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Re: recommendations for a new recorder?

Anders Holmberg
 

Hi!
Yeah i got a mic for my Iphone which is really cute and great.
I think you have to use the app that’s specially made for the mic but thats accessible so that’s not a big issue.
/A

11 maj 2020 kl. 23:43 skrev Georgina Joyce <gena@...>:

Hello,

Use a smart phone with a better mic.

Regards,
On 11 May 2020, at 21:47, David Mehler <dave.mehler@...> wrote:

Hello,

Mainly I'm looking for podcast creation/lecture recordings. I'm very
out of touch with newer recorders so I don't know features to ask for
or which I really wouldn't need, what features are on modern
recorders?

Thanks.
Dave.


On 5/11/20, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@... <mailto:hamitcampos@...>> wrote:
What would you like your new recorder to have or do? I don't know what
replaces the DS 50.

On 5/11/2020 11:24 AM, David Mehler wrote:
Hello,

My Olympus DS50 has given up the ghost. I am now in the market for a
new recorder and would appreciate recommendations.

Thanks.
Dave.




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Re: Microphones for Zoom

Hamit Campos
 

Yes the NT1-A is a mono mic. The advantage of using 2 seprate mics is you can go as far apart as you wish. So I'd do ORTF with the 2 of them. But instead of the defacto 110 degree angle aiming i'd go 180 degrees. But if you do want a stereo mic the AT-8022 I have is epic. It's nice and wide. Now just so you are aware as it's home interview and home video focused it just like most speach mics can only hear up to 15 KHZ. There's also the Rode NT-4 but this thing's expensive. Well 200 dolars more than the 8022 and it can hear the full range from 20 Hz bass to the full 20 KHZ highs. This 1 is fixed in 90 degrees XY. You know what this looks like from the XY snap off of the H6.

On 5/12/2020 10:11 AM, Andy via groups.io wrote:
Hi all who have responded thus far.

I've loads of questions regarding the NT1 microphone.

hamit you said that you'd like a set of these, factory set!

Are you saying that the NT1 is a Mono microphone?  And for Sterio, you'd need 2 of these mics?

I've been listening, on the Accessible Youtube all morning and this microphone is considered to be one of the best Home Studio microphones.  As I like to record small bands at my local pub as well as recording my local quire, I thought that this microphone may work out well.

I was concerned however as to how to record Vocals and strings in the pub with up to 5 artists, with a single microphone.

Below is a very short recording that I found on Youtube this morning.

I think this is of interest as the hole recording was done using the FT1 alone.

Have a listen at the link below.

https://www.sendspace.com/file/zej5e6

I' sure you will agree with me that it covered quite a broad front of this wee band.

Tell me what you think folks .  Is this the mic I am looking for, though as I also like to record bird calls, I'd still need a second mic for out of doors with a shotgun and very high quality Dead Cat!

Up until now I was considering buying both the Sure 57 for strings and the Sure 58 for vokals.  Good for recording a single singer like Cat Stevens or david Gray, but how about a band of 5 artists with 5 instraments?


Very best wishes.

Andy.









Are you saying that the


----- Original Message ----- From: "Georgina Joyce" <gena@...>
To: <all-audio@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 11:27 AM
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom


Hello Hamit,

What the NT1 or the NT1A. Apparently there is a mod to fix some issue. It seemed to be an American thing. So I didn’t look into it further.

Regards,
On 12 May 2020, at 00:13, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

Yeah as does Curtis Jud by the way. He got 1 recently. He loves it. Mmmmmm maybe I should get 2 of those then.

On 5/11/2020 6:18 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
Hello Hamit,

You do know that the booth junky much prefers the NT1.

Regards,
On 11 May 2020, at 23:12, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

No need to save up the $600 for the stereo matched pair.

On 5/11/2020 6:10 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
Hello,

Haven’t you got one yet? It is actually the shock mount that is the weight.

Regards,

On 11 May 2020, at 22:45, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

Ah my favorite of the mics Neal Ewers has. Andy 1 thing to be aware with the NT1-A though it is a large diaphragm. Thus it's big and heavy. Gena you still here? What did you tell me like a pound or something? But yeah not discuraging. I want the factory stereo matched pair of NT1-A mics. It's been my fave ever since hearing it on Neal's Sound-devices 744-T recorder. Can't wait to hear what it sounds like on an F6. Or even the F8 if you get 1 Andy.

On 5/11/2020 4:50 PM, frank cuta wrote:
Your  clip on  microphones are actually very good mid range quality units.
As far as quality goes, any professional studio that you visit on either
coast will offer you a U87 or a 416 but you are not in a studio you are
outdoors.  Your best choice for outside ambiance is the NT1a because of its
extremely  low noise.  You can get either a new or used one on ebay for a
fraction of the cost of a 416.


Frank



-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Andy via
groups.io
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 5:25 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom


Hi all.

I've got both the Zoom H6 and the F8n, but the only microphones I have are
the 2 clip on ones that I origionally got with the H6.

I'm wanting to record the Dawn Chorus in my garden but don't have a clue as
to which microphone , or best type, to buy and where to buy it.

I think I need a directional Shot-gun microphone with a large Dead-Cat
windscreen, and also about 3 meters of cable with the appropriate XLR plugs.

Can anyone please give me some advice.

Also, My Zoom H6 is playing up.  I think I've changed an inportant option
within the menues.  I tried recording bird calls and the recording was
extremely poor.  Is there perhaps a function within the H6 that Re-sets the
device back to factory settings.

I hope you are all okay and enjoying this period of noise pelution silence
to get very nice recordings.  If so I'd love to here some samples.

Very best wishes and please take care of yourselves.

Andy Logue from Scotland.









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Re: Microphones for Zoom

Georgina Joyce
 

Hello Andy,

It would be useful if you provided the youtube link rather than a send space link. As I don’t have a send space account it demands I sign up.

Just a note about the Shure mics be very careful with them. There are a lot of counterfeit versions. See this link:

https://www.liveabout.com/spotting-a-fake-shure-microphone-1817723

As for the best mic. There is no such thing as the best mic. Because you would need the best pub as well. Every room is different, you add or take a chair away from that room or another person enters and the acoustics change. It really is down to price point. There are dedicated mics for drums, guitars etc. It also depends upon how much post processing you want to do. You need very good pre-amps that done’t introduce noise. Dynamic mics tend to give a low output so you have to crank up the pre-amp and the more you do that the more hiss and other noises are introduced into the recording. However, using a noise gate most of this is removed.

Regards,

Gena

On 12 May 2020, at 15:11, Andy via groups.io <meikle.aiden@...> wrote:

Hi all who have responded thus far.

I've loads of questions regarding the NT1 microphone.

hamit you said that you'd like a set of these, factory set!

Are you saying that the NT1 is a Mono microphone? And for Sterio, you'd need 2 of these mics?

I've been listening, on the Accessible Youtube all morning and this microphone is considered to be one of the best Home Studio microphones. As I like to record small bands at my local pub as well as recording my local quire, I thought that this microphone may work out well.

I was concerned however as to how to record Vocals and strings in the pub with up to 5 artists, with a single microphone.

Below is a very short recording that I found on Youtube this morning.

I think this is of interest as the hole recording was done using the FT1 alone.

Have a listen at the link below.

https://www.sendspace.com/file/zej5e6

I' sure you will agree with me that it covered quite a broad front of this wee band.

Tell me what you think folks . Is this the mic I am looking for, though as I also like to record bird calls, I'd still need a second mic for out of doors with a shotgun and very high quality Dead Cat!

Up until now I was considering buying both the Sure 57 for strings and the Sure 58 for vokals. Good for recording a single singer like Cat Stevens or david Gray, but how about a band of 5 artists with 5 instraments?


Very best wishes.

Andy.









Are you saying that the


----- Original Message ----- From: "Georgina Joyce" <gena@... <mailto:gena@...>>
To: <all-audio@groups.io <mailto:all-audio@groups.io>>
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 11:27 AM
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom


Hello Hamit,

What the NT1 or the NT1A. Apparently there is a mod to fix some issue. It seemed to be an American thing. So I didn’t look into it further.

Regards,
On 12 May 2020, at 00:13, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

Yeah as does Curtis Jud by the way. He got 1 recently. He loves it. Mmmmmm maybe I should get 2 of those then.

On 5/11/2020 6:18 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
Hello Hamit,

You do know that the booth junky much prefers the NT1.

Regards,
On 11 May 2020, at 23:12, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

No need to save up the $600 for the stereo matched pair.

On 5/11/2020 6:10 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
Hello,

Haven’t you got one yet? It is actually the shock mount that is the weight.

Regards,

On 11 May 2020, at 22:45, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

Ah my favorite of the mics Neal Ewers has. Andy 1 thing to be aware with the NT1-A though it is a large diaphragm. Thus it's big and heavy. Gena you still here? What did you tell me like a pound or something? But yeah not discuraging. I want the factory stereo matched pair of NT1-A mics. It's been my fave ever since hearing it on Neal's Sound-devices 744-T recorder. Can't wait to hear what it sounds like on an F6. Or even the F8 if you get 1 Andy.

On 5/11/2020 4:50 PM, frank cuta wrote:
Your clip on microphones are actually very good mid range quality units.
As far as quality goes, any professional studio that you visit on either
coast will offer you a U87 or a 416 but you are not in a studio you are
outdoors. Your best choice for outside ambiance is the NT1a because of its
extremely low noise. You can get either a new or used one on ebay for a
fraction of the cost of a 416.


Frank



-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Andy via
groups.io
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 5:25 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom


Hi all.

I've got both the Zoom H6 and the F8n, but the only microphones I have are
the 2 clip on ones that I origionally got with the H6.

I'm wanting to record the Dawn Chorus in my garden but don't have a clue as
to which microphone , or best type, to buy and where to buy it.

I think I need a directional Shot-gun microphone with a large Dead-Cat
windscreen, and also about 3 meters of cable with the appropriate XLR plugs.

Can anyone please give me some advice.

Also, My Zoom H6 is playing up. I think I've changed an inportant option
within the menues. I tried recording bird calls and the recording was
extremely poor. Is there perhaps a function within the H6 that Re-sets the
device back to factory settings.

I hope you are all okay and enjoying this period of noise pelution silence
to get very nice recordings. If so I'd love to here some samples.

Very best wishes and please take care of yourselves.

Andy Logue from Scotland.









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Re: Microphones for Zoom

Hamit Campos
 

Yeah man. Now if it were me and I were in Andy's place I'd get a whole bunch of mics 8 to be exact as he says he has the Zoom F8 to do 7.1 surround sound. Which is what I'd truely love to do. Hence why the H6 over the H5 which is what people grab when they buy the AT-8022 stereo mic I have. It's based on the AT-4021 by the way.

On 5/12/2020 10:43 AM, John Gurd via groups.io wrote:
I had a look at the link. Most bird watchers want to focus-record an individual bird song sometimes out of many background songs. A dawn Chorus is all the birds in the area - not just a single bird. As Hamit suggests a stereo mike might be more likely to do this successfully.

PS: last time I heard Andy was living in rural Scotland, so maybe not a big garden, but a lot of habitat. I know birds are territorial, but they tend to sing from adjoining gardens to, and I'm sure Andy isn't so possessive he only wants the birds singing in just his garden alone. You'll find a dawn chorus is just as big weather heard from a small garden or an estate for that very reason. 😉

John

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Georgina Joyce
Sent: 12 May 2020 14:41
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom

Hello John,

They don’t cut out sharply it’s usually shown as a heart shape tapering down to the point. Obviously, Andy has done some research and his post caused me to do so as I use a shotgun in the booth. Andy did not want ambient sound. He wanted to record bird song from his garden. Unless he lives in a huge estate it is not going to be that wide of a field. I found that bird watchers use a shotgun mic although this is with a camera. Even professional sound recordist uses a shotgun. See this:

https://www.audubon.org/news/a-beginners-guide-recording-bird-vocalizations

Regards,


On 12 May 2020, at 14:20, John Gurd via groups.io <j.gurd@...> wrote:

From what I've read a shot-gun mike is so directional that even being off-target a little will result in poor quality sound. I doubt it would be the best for ambient recordings.

John


-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Georgina Joyce
Sent: 11 May 2020 14:16
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom

Hello Andy,

It is down to you and how much you want to spend. I follow the Booth Junky who uses a shotgun microphone a lot. He uses the Sennheiser MKH-416. I haven’t been able to afford one of those but I do have the MKH-166 which I purchased used from eBay. I absolutely love it and is my mic of choice. I think that would really do the job.

Regards,




On 11 May 2020, at 13:25, Andy via groups.io <meikle.aiden@...> wrote:

Hi all.

I've got both the Zoom H6 and the F8n, but the only microphones I have are the 2 clip on ones that I origionally got with the H6.

I'm wanting to record the Dawn Chorus in my garden but don't have a clue as to which microphone , or best type, to buy and where to buy it.

I think I need a directional Shot-gun microphone with a large Dead-Cat windscreen, and also about 3 meters of cable with the appropriate XLR plugs.

Can anyone please give me some advice.

Also, My Zoom H6 is playing up. I think I've changed an inportant option within the menues. I tried recording bird calls and the recording was extremely poor. Is there perhaps a function within the H6 that Re-sets the device back to factory settings.

I hope you are all okay and enjoying this period of noise pelution silence to get very nice recordings. If so I'd love to here some samples.

Very best wishes and please take care of yourselves.

Andy Logue from Scotland.






Gena

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Re: Microphones for Zoom

John Gurd <j.gurd@...>
 

I had a look at the link. Most bird watchers want to focus-record an individual bird song sometimes out of many background songs. A dawn Chorus is all the birds in the area - not just a single bird. As Hamit suggests a stereo mike might be more likely to do this successfully.

PS: last time I heard Andy was living in rural Scotland, so maybe not a big garden, but a lot of habitat. I know birds are territorial, but they tend to sing from adjoining gardens to, and I'm sure Andy isn't so possessive he only wants the birds singing in just his garden alone. You'll find a dawn chorus is just as big weather heard from a small garden or an estate for that very reason. 😉

John

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Georgina Joyce
Sent: 12 May 2020 14:41
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom

Hello John,

They don’t cut out sharply it’s usually shown as a heart shape tapering down to the point. Obviously, Andy has done some research and his post caused me to do so as I use a shotgun in the booth. Andy did not want ambient sound. He wanted to record bird song from his garden. Unless he lives in a huge estate it is not going to be that wide of a field. I found that bird watchers use a shotgun mic although this is with a camera. Even professional sound recordist uses a shotgun. See this:

https://www.audubon.org/news/a-beginners-guide-recording-bird-vocalizations

Regards,


On 12 May 2020, at 14:20, John Gurd via groups.io <j.gurd@...> wrote:

From what I've read a shot-gun mike is so directional that even being off-target a little will result in poor quality sound. I doubt it would be the best for ambient recordings.

John


-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Georgina Joyce
Sent: 11 May 2020 14:16
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom

Hello Andy,

It is down to you and how much you want to spend. I follow the Booth Junky who uses a shotgun microphone a lot. He uses the Sennheiser MKH-416. I haven’t been able to afford one of those but I do have the MKH-166 which I purchased used from eBay. I absolutely love it and is my mic of choice. I think that would really do the job.

Regards,




On 11 May 2020, at 13:25, Andy via groups.io <meikle.aiden@...> wrote:

Hi all.

I've got both the Zoom H6 and the F8n, but the only microphones I have are the 2 clip on ones that I origionally got with the H6.

I'm wanting to record the Dawn Chorus in my garden but don't have a clue as to which microphone , or best type, to buy and where to buy it.

I think I need a directional Shot-gun microphone with a large Dead-Cat windscreen, and also about 3 meters of cable with the appropriate XLR plugs.

Can anyone please give me some advice.

Also, My Zoom H6 is playing up. I think I've changed an inportant option within the menues. I tried recording bird calls and the recording was extremely poor. Is there perhaps a function within the H6 that Re-sets the device back to factory settings.

I hope you are all okay and enjoying this period of noise pelution silence to get very nice recordings. If so I'd love to here some samples.

Very best wishes and please take care of yourselves.

Andy Logue from Scotland.






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Re: Microphones for Zoom

Andy
 

Hi all who have responded thus far.

I've loads of questions regarding the NT1 microphone.

hamit you said that you'd like a set of these, factory set!

Are you saying that the NT1 is a Mono microphone? And for Sterio, you'd need 2 of these mics?

I've been listening, on the Accessible Youtube all morning and this microphone is considered to be one of the best Home Studio microphones. As I like to record small bands at my local pub as well as recording my local quire, I thought that this microphone may work out well.

I was concerned however as to how to record Vocals and strings in the pub with up to 5 artists, with a single microphone.

Below is a very short recording that I found on Youtube this morning.

I think this is of interest as the hole recording was done using the FT1 alone.

Have a listen at the link below.

https://www.sendspace.com/file/zej5e6

I' sure you will agree with me that it covered quite a broad front of this wee band.

Tell me what you think folks . Is this the mic I am looking for, though as I also like to record bird calls, I'd still need a second mic for out of doors with a shotgun and very high quality Dead Cat!

Up until now I was considering buying both the Sure 57 for strings and the Sure 58 for vokals. Good for recording a single singer like Cat Stevens or david Gray, but how about a band of 5 artists with 5 instraments?


Very best wishes.

Andy.









Are you saying that the

----- Original Message -----
From: "Georgina Joyce" <gena@...>
To: <all-audio@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 11:27 AM
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom


Hello Hamit,

What the NT1 or the NT1A. Apparently there is a mod to fix some issue. It seemed to be an American thing. So I didn’t look into it further.

Regards,
On 12 May 2020, at 00:13, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

Yeah as does Curtis Jud by the way. He got 1 recently. He loves it. Mmmmmm maybe I should get 2 of those then.

On 5/11/2020 6:18 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
Hello Hamit,

You do know that the booth junky much prefers the NT1.

Regards,
On 11 May 2020, at 23:12, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

No need to save up the $600 for the stereo matched pair.

On 5/11/2020 6:10 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
Hello,

Haven’t you got one yet? It is actually the shock mount that is the weight.

Regards,

On 11 May 2020, at 22:45, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

Ah my favorite of the mics Neal Ewers has. Andy 1 thing to be aware with the NT1-A though it is a large diaphragm. Thus it's big and heavy. Gena you still here? What did you tell me like a pound or something? But yeah not discuraging. I want the factory stereo matched pair of NT1-A mics. It's been my fave ever since hearing it on Neal's Sound-devices 744-T recorder. Can't wait to hear what it sounds like on an F6. Or even the F8 if you get 1 Andy.

On 5/11/2020 4:50 PM, frank cuta wrote:
Your clip on microphones are actually very good mid range quality units.
As far as quality goes, any professional studio that you visit on either
coast will offer you a U87 or a 416 but you are not in a studio you are
outdoors. Your best choice for outside ambiance is the NT1a because of its
extremely low noise. You can get either a new or used one on ebay for a
fraction of the cost of a 416.


Frank



-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Andy via
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Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 5:25 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom


Hi all.

I've got both the Zoom H6 and the F8n, but the only microphones I have are
the 2 clip on ones that I origionally got with the H6.

I'm wanting to record the Dawn Chorus in my garden but don't have a clue as
to which microphone , or best type, to buy and where to buy it.

I think I need a directional Shot-gun microphone with a large Dead-Cat
windscreen, and also about 3 meters of cable with the appropriate XLR plugs.

Can anyone please give me some advice.

Also, My Zoom H6 is playing up. I think I've changed an inportant option
within the menues. I tried recording bird calls and the recording was
extremely poor. Is there perhaps a function within the H6 that Re-sets the
device back to factory settings.

I hope you are all okay and enjoying this period of noise pelution silence
to get very nice recordings. If so I'd love to here some samples.

Very best wishes and please take care of yourselves.

Andy Logue from Scotland.









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Re: Microphones for Zoom

Georgina Joyce
 

Hello John,

They don’t cut out sharply it’s usually shown as a heart shape tapering down to the point. Obviously, Andy has done some research and his post caused me to do so as I use a shotgun in the booth. Andy did not want ambient sound. He wanted to record bird song from his garden. Unless he lives in a huge estate it is not going to be that wide of a field. I found that bird watchers use a shotgun mic although this is with a camera. Even professional sound recordist uses a shotgun. See this:

https://www.audubon.org/news/a-beginners-guide-recording-bird-vocalizations

Regards,


On 12 May 2020, at 14:20, John Gurd via groups.io <j.gurd@...> wrote:

From what I've read a shot-gun mike is so directional that even being off-target a little will result in poor quality sound. I doubt it would be the best for ambient recordings.

John


-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Georgina Joyce
Sent: 11 May 2020 14:16
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom

Hello Andy,

It is down to you and how much you want to spend. I follow the Booth Junky who uses a shotgun microphone a lot. He uses the Sennheiser MKH-416. I haven’t been able to afford one of those but I do have the MKH-166 which I purchased used from eBay. I absolutely love it and is my mic of choice. I think that would really do the job.

Regards,




On 11 May 2020, at 13:25, Andy via groups.io <meikle.aiden@...> wrote:

Hi all.

I've got both the Zoom H6 and the F8n, but the only microphones I have are the 2 clip on ones that I origionally got with the H6.

I'm wanting to record the Dawn Chorus in my garden but don't have a clue as to which microphone , or best type, to buy and where to buy it.

I think I need a directional Shot-gun microphone with a large Dead-Cat windscreen, and also about 3 meters of cable with the appropriate XLR plugs.

Can anyone please give me some advice.

Also, My Zoom H6 is playing up. I think I've changed an inportant option within the menues. I tried recording bird calls and the recording was extremely poor. Is there perhaps a function within the H6 that Re-sets the device back to factory settings.

I hope you are all okay and enjoying this period of noise pelution silence to get very nice recordings. If so I'd love to here some samples.

Very best wishes and please take care of yourselves.

Andy Logue from Scotland.






Gena

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Re: recommendations for a new recorder?

Hamit Campos
 

Neal Ewers did but I don't know what he did to that page. There are demos on youtube though too. We'll see though if someone can suggest some.

On 5/11/2020 11:09 PM, David Mehler wrote:
Hello,

Thanks, anyone have any podcasts of these or other recorders, demos so
I can get an idea what I am getting sound and feature wise?

Thanks.
Dave.


On 5/11/20, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:
Hmmmmm than maybe even the Olympus LS-P2 would do. Note it's a little
mini me recorder. Only uses 1 triple A but it's totally for that. Yes
there's the consumer DM-7 which again a little mini me but it's part of
the DM-series which apparently though they can record up to DVD quality
they are more MP3 WAV players than recorders. Actually take back the P2
I think P4 is the current moddle. I just meantion they are little mini
me things cause they will have a little mini me sound to them. Hmmmm
there are podcasts if you want to hear them first. Even youtube videos.

On 5/11/2020 4:47 PM, David Mehler wrote:
Hello,

Mainly I'm looking for podcast creation/lecture recordings. I'm very
out of touch with newer recorders so I don't know features to ask for
or which I really wouldn't need, what features are on modern
recorders?

Thanks.
Dave.


On 5/11/20, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:
What would you like your new recorder to have or do? I don't know what
replaces the DS 50.

On 5/11/2020 11:24 AM, David Mehler wrote:
Hello,

My Olympus DS50 has given up the ghost. I am now in the market for a
new recorder and would appreciate recommendations.

Thanks.
Dave.




Re: Microphones for Zoom

Hamit Campos
 

Yeah unless yoou are recording a particular thing. It's used in film because since it's long it can be far a bit and off camera. But for the reason you just said too. It'll only capture what you want it to. I think a stereo pair of mics would be better. Unless he's gona be far away. Wander why he thought of a shot gun in the first place.

On 5/12/2020 9:20 AM, John Gurd via groups.io wrote:
From what I've read a shot-gun mike is so directional that even being off-target a little will result in poor quality sound. I doubt it would be the best for ambient recordings.

John


-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Georgina Joyce
Sent: 11 May 2020 14:16
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom

Hello Andy,

It is down to you and how much you want to spend. I follow the Booth Junky who uses a shotgun microphone a lot. He uses the Sennheiser MKH-416. I haven’t been able to afford one of those but I do have the MKH-166 which I purchased used from eBay. I absolutely love it and is my mic of choice. I think that would really do the job.

Regards,




On 11 May 2020, at 13:25, Andy via groups.io <meikle.aiden@...> wrote:

Hi all.

I've got both the Zoom H6 and the F8n, but the only microphones I have are the 2 clip on ones that I origionally got with the H6.

I'm wanting to record the Dawn Chorus in my garden but don't have a clue as to which microphone , or best type, to buy and where to buy it.

I think I need a directional Shot-gun microphone with a large Dead-Cat windscreen, and also about 3 meters of cable with the appropriate XLR plugs.

Can anyone please give me some advice.

Also, My Zoom H6 is playing up. I think I've changed an inportant option within the menues. I tried recording bird calls and the recording was extremely poor. Is there perhaps a function within the H6 that Re-sets the device back to factory settings.

I hope you are all okay and enjoying this period of noise pelution silence to get very nice recordings. If so I'd love to here some samples.

Very best wishes and please take care of yourselves.

Andy Logue from Scotland.






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Re: Microphones for Zoom

Georgina Joyce
 

Hello Hamit,

Listen to this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9vjx0yYgbU

Yes the mic has a boost at the high end.

Regards,

On 12 May 2020, at 14:03, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

Well the NT1 first of all is just a

On 5/12/2020 6:27 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
Hello Hamit,

What the NT1 or the NT1A. Apparently there is a mod to fix some issue. It seemed to be an Amer-fresh. What it in air quotes fixes though is that for some people and this is where your statement of it's an american thing confused me for a bit. But for some people the 1-A was too crisp ican thing. So I didn’t look into it further.

Regards,
On 12 May 2020, at 00:13, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

Yeah as does Curtis Jud by the way. He got 1 recently. He loves it. Mmmmmm maybe I should get 2 of those then.

On 5/11/2020 6:18 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
Hello Hamit,

You do know that the booth junky much prefers the NT1.

Regards,
On 11 May 2020, at 23:12, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

No need to save up the $600 for the stereo matched pair.

On 5/11/2020 6:10 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
Hello,

Haven’t you got one yet? It is actually the shock mount that is the weight.

Regards,

On 11 May 2020, at 22:45, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

Ah my favorite of the mics Neal Ewers has. Andy 1 thing to be aware with the NT1-A though it is a large diaphragm. Thus it's big and heavy. Gena you still here? What did you tell me like a pound or something? But yeah not discuraging. I want the factory stereo matched pair of NT1-A mics. It's been my fave ever since hearing it on Neal's Sound-devices 744-T recorder. Can't wait to hear what it sounds like on an F6. Or even the F8 if you get 1 Andy.

On 5/11/2020 4:50 PM, frank cuta wrote:
Your clip on microphones are actually very good mid range quality units.
As far as quality goes, any professional studio that you visit on either
coast will offer you a U87 or a 416 but you are not in a studio you are
outdoors. Your best choice for outside ambiance is the NT1a because of its
extremely low noise. You can get either a new or used one on ebay for a
fraction of the cost of a 416.


Frank



-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Andy via
groups.io
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 5:25 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom


Hi all.

I've got both the Zoom H6 and the F8n, but the only microphones I have are
the 2 clip on ones that I origionally got with the H6.

I'm wanting to record the Dawn Chorus in my garden but don't have a clue as
to which microphone , or best type, to buy and where to buy it.

I think I need a directional Shot-gun microphone with a large Dead-Cat
windscreen, and also about 3 meters of cable with the appropriate XLR plugs.

Can anyone please give me some advice.

Also, My Zoom H6 is playing up. I think I've changed an inportant option
within the menues. I tried recording bird calls and the recording was
extremely poor. Is there perhaps a function within the H6 that Re-sets the
device back to factory settings.

I hope you are all okay and enjoying this period of noise pelution silence
to get very nice recordings. If so I'd love to here some samples.

Very best wishes and please take care of yourselves.

Andy Logue from Scotland.









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Re: Microphones for Zoom

John Gurd <j.gurd@...>
 

From what I've read a shot-gun mike is so directional that even being off-target a little will result in poor quality sound. I doubt it would be the best for ambient recordings.

John

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Georgina Joyce
Sent: 11 May 2020 14:16
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom

Hello Andy,

It is down to you and how much you want to spend. I follow the Booth Junky who uses a shotgun microphone a lot. He uses the Sennheiser MKH-416. I haven’t been able to afford one of those but I do have the MKH-166 which I purchased used from eBay. I absolutely love it and is my mic of choice. I think that would really do the job.

Regards,




On 11 May 2020, at 13:25, Andy via groups.io <meikle.aiden@...> wrote:

Hi all.

I've got both the Zoom H6 and the F8n, but the only microphones I have are the 2 clip on ones that I origionally got with the H6.

I'm wanting to record the Dawn Chorus in my garden but don't have a clue as to which microphone , or best type, to buy and where to buy it.

I think I need a directional Shot-gun microphone with a large Dead-Cat windscreen, and also about 3 meters of cable with the appropriate XLR plugs.

Can anyone please give me some advice.

Also, My Zoom H6 is playing up. I think I've changed an inportant option within the menues. I tried recording bird calls and the recording was extremely poor. Is there perhaps a function within the H6 that Re-sets the device back to factory settings.

I hope you are all okay and enjoying this period of noise pelution silence to get very nice recordings. If so I'd love to here some samples.

Very best wishes and please take care of yourselves.

Andy Logue from Scotland.






Gena

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Re: Microphones for Zoom

Hamit Campos
 

Well the NT1 first of all is just a

On 5/12/2020 6:27 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
Hello Hamit,

What the NT1 or the NT1A. Apparently there is a mod to fix some issue. It seemed to be an Amer-fresh. What it in air quotes fixes though is that for some people and this is where your statement of it's an american thing confused me for a bit. But for some people the 1-A was too crisp ican thing. So I didn’t look into it further.

Regards,
On 12 May 2020, at 00:13, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

Yeah as does Curtis Jud by the way. He got 1 recently. He loves it. Mmmmmm maybe I should get 2 of those then.

On 5/11/2020 6:18 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
Hello Hamit,

You do know that the booth junky much prefers the NT1.

Regards,
On 11 May 2020, at 23:12, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

No need to save up the $600 for the stereo matched pair.

On 5/11/2020 6:10 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
Hello,

Haven’t you got one yet? It is actually the shock mount that is the weight.

Regards,

On 11 May 2020, at 22:45, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

Ah my favorite of the mics Neal Ewers has. Andy 1 thing to be aware with the NT1-A though it is a large diaphragm. Thus it's big and heavy. Gena you still here? What did you tell me like a pound or something? But yeah not discuraging. I want the factory stereo matched pair of NT1-A mics. It's been my fave ever since hearing it on Neal's Sound-devices 744-T recorder. Can't wait to hear what it sounds like on an F6. Or even the F8 if you get 1 Andy.

On 5/11/2020 4:50 PM, frank cuta wrote:
Your clip on microphones are actually very good mid range quality units.
As far as quality goes, any professional studio that you visit on either
coast will offer you a U87 or a 416 but you are not in a studio you are
outdoors. Your best choice for outside ambiance is the NT1a because of its
extremely low noise. You can get either a new or used one on ebay for a
fraction of the cost of a 416.


Frank



-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Andy via
groups.io
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 5:25 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom


Hi all.

I've got both the Zoom H6 and the F8n, but the only microphones I have are
the 2 clip on ones that I origionally got with the H6.

I'm wanting to record the Dawn Chorus in my garden but don't have a clue as
to which microphone , or best type, to buy and where to buy it.

I think I need a directional Shot-gun microphone with a large Dead-Cat
windscreen, and also about 3 meters of cable with the appropriate XLR plugs.

Can anyone please give me some advice.

Also, My Zoom H6 is playing up. I think I've changed an inportant option
within the menues. I tried recording bird calls and the recording was
extremely poor. Is there perhaps a function within the H6 that Re-sets the
device back to factory settings.

I hope you are all okay and enjoying this period of noise pelution silence
to get very nice recordings. If so I'd love to here some samples.

Very best wishes and please take care of yourselves.

Andy Logue from Scotland.









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