Date   

Re: A rather strange sound problem

Yusuf Osman
 

Yes. With my old PC it worked without a problem.

Although I'm seriously thinking about moving from Bluetooth wireless to Wi-Fi wireless for headphones as in addition to this problem I'm also noticing a slight popping sound when using my Screenreader. I've read somewhere that this is due to the headphones going off when nothing is being transmitted and then back on again each time Jaws tries to say something. It is a little annoying.
Yusuf

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
Sent: 09 September 2019 14:07
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] A rather strange sound problem

Ah than something is up there now. That's not good. Is this the only PC it does this with?

On 9/9/2019 9:02 AM, Yusuf Osman wrote:
Sorry, your right, we did and I completely forgot. The problem is the second USB port did the same thing as the first after the first removal.
Yusuf

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Hamit
Campos
Sent: 09 September 2019 13:53
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] A rather strange sound problem

Wait didn't we just figure this out a few days ago? Or was that someone else. But in any case. I'd suggest trying the dongle on another port.
Like I said that last time my H6 does a similar thing with laptops. I figure that in my case it's that the H6 doesn't like that USB port that is active so you can charge your phone and stuff.

On 9/9/2019 5:41 AM, Yusuf Osman wrote:
Hi all, please bear with me whilst I describe the situation.

My desktop has an in-built sound card (NVIDIA) and a separate sound card (Strix). The former is used for my Screenreader (Jaws or NVDA) and the latter for recording via the line-in from sounds coming from my Amp.

I often like to listen to what I am recording whilst I am cooking in the kitchen, and in order to do this I connect a pair of Plantronics headphones via a Bluetooth dongle.

When these are plugged in and turned on, all the sounds from my in-built sound card I.E. Jaws and Windows come via the headphones. If I go in to the recording tab sheet of the sounds dialogue in windows no sound is heard at all. This only happens in that tab sheet and in no other. Additionally it only happens when the Plantronics headphones are connected. Luckily I have a braille display and am able to select the line-in and via it's properties select the listen checkbox. Once I've left that dialogue and the recording tab sheet Jaws, windows and the sound from the line-in all start playing over the headphones without an issue.

If anyone is still reading thanks. Does anyone know why sounds disappear when in the recording tab sheet but nowhere else? I used to have a similar setup with my previous computer and this didn't happen. I'm running Windows10.
Thanks
Yusuf








Re: A rather strange sound problem

Hamit Campos
 

Ah than something is up there now. That's not good. Is this the only PC it does this with?

On 9/9/2019 9:02 AM, Yusuf Osman wrote:
Sorry, your right, we did and I completely forgot. The problem is the second USB port did the same thing as the first after the first removal.
Yusuf

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
Sent: 09 September 2019 13:53
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] A rather strange sound problem

Wait didn't we just figure this out a few days ago? Or was that someone else. But in any case. I'd suggest trying the dongle on another port.
Like I said that last time my H6 does a similar thing with laptops. I figure that in my case it's that the H6 doesn't like that USB port that is active so you can charge your phone and stuff.

On 9/9/2019 5:41 AM, Yusuf Osman wrote:
Hi all, please bear with me whilst I describe the situation.

My desktop has an in-built sound card (NVIDIA) and a separate sound card (Strix). The former is used for my Screenreader (Jaws or NVDA) and the latter for recording via the line-in from sounds coming from my Amp.

I often like to listen to what I am recording whilst I am cooking in the kitchen, and in order to do this I connect a pair of Plantronics headphones via a Bluetooth dongle.

When these are plugged in and turned on, all the sounds from my in-built sound card I.E. Jaws and Windows come via the headphones. If I go in to the recording tab sheet of the sounds dialogue in windows no sound is heard at all. This only happens in that tab sheet and in no other. Additionally it only happens when the Plantronics headphones are connected. Luckily I have a braille display and am able to select the line-in and via it's properties select the listen checkbox. Once I've left that dialogue and the recording tab sheet Jaws, windows and the sound from the line-in all start playing over the headphones without an issue.

If anyone is still reading thanks. Does anyone know why sounds disappear when in the recording tab sheet but nowhere else? I used to have a similar setup with my previous computer and this didn't happen. I'm running Windows10.
Thanks
Yusuf







Re: A rather strange sound problem

Yusuf Osman
 

Sorry, your right, we did and I completely forgot. The problem is the second USB port did the same thing as the first after the first removal.
Yusuf

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
Sent: 09 September 2019 13:53
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] A rather strange sound problem

Wait didn't we just figure this out a few days ago? Or was that someone else. But in any case. I'd suggest trying the dongle on another port.
Like I said that last time my H6 does a similar thing with laptops. I figure that in my case it's that the H6 doesn't like that USB port that is active so you can charge your phone and stuff.

On 9/9/2019 5:41 AM, Yusuf Osman wrote:
Hi all, please bear with me whilst I describe the situation.

My desktop has an in-built sound card (NVIDIA) and a separate sound card (Strix). The former is used for my Screenreader (Jaws or NVDA) and the latter for recording via the line-in from sounds coming from my Amp.

I often like to listen to what I am recording whilst I am cooking in the kitchen, and in order to do this I connect a pair of Plantronics headphones via a Bluetooth dongle.

When these are plugged in and turned on, all the sounds from my in-built sound card I.E. Jaws and Windows come via the headphones. If I go in to the recording tab sheet of the sounds dialogue in windows no sound is heard at all. This only happens in that tab sheet and in no other. Additionally it only happens when the Plantronics headphones are connected. Luckily I have a braille display and am able to select the line-in and via it's properties select the listen checkbox. Once I've left that dialogue and the recording tab sheet Jaws, windows and the sound from the line-in all start playing over the headphones without an issue.

If anyone is still reading thanks. Does anyone know why sounds disappear when in the recording tab sheet but nowhere else? I used to have a similar setup with my previous computer and this didn't happen. I'm running Windows10.
Thanks
Yusuf




Re: A rather strange sound problem

Hamit Campos
 

Wait didn't we just figure this out a few days ago? Or was that someone else. But in any case. I'd suggest trying the dongle on another port. Like I said that last time my H6 does a similar thing with laptops. I figure that in my case it's that the H6 doesn't like that USB port that is active so you can charge your phone and stuff.

On 9/9/2019 5:41 AM, Yusuf Osman wrote:
Hi all, please bear with me whilst I describe the situation.

My desktop has an in-built sound card (NVIDIA) and a separate sound card (Strix). The former is used for my Screenreader (Jaws or NVDA) and the latter for recording via the line-in from sounds coming from my Amp.

I often like to listen to what I am recording whilst I am cooking in the kitchen, and in order to do this I connect a pair of Plantronics headphones via a Bluetooth dongle.

When these are plugged in and turned on, all the sounds from my in-built sound card I.E. Jaws and Windows come via the headphones. If I go in to the recording tab sheet of the sounds dialogue in windows no sound is heard at all. This only happens in that tab sheet and in no other. Additionally it only happens when the Plantronics headphones are connected. Luckily I have a braille display and am able to select the line-in and via it's properties select the listen checkbox. Once I've left that dialogue and the recording tab sheet Jaws, windows and the sound from the line-in all start playing over the headphones without an issue.

If anyone is still reading thanks. Does anyone know why sounds disappear when in the recording tab sheet but nowhere else? I used to have a similar setup with my previous computer and this didn't happen. I'm running Windows10.
Thanks
Yusuf



Re: digital audio recorders: looking for a specific type

Brian Olesen
 

HI,
Agree. The LS-p4 is being praysed all over the place.

Brian

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> På vegne af Dane Trethowan
Sendt: 9. september 2019 13:20
Til: all-audio@groups.io
Emne: Re: [all-audio] digital audio recorders: looking for a specific type

I can’t honestly be sure but I can say that the LS-P4 is far better than the LS14 for recording quiet scenes.
I think the “Look Ahead” buffer in the LS-P4 is a far better idea than that of the “Smart Level” function of the LS14.

On 9 Sep 2019, at 7:36 pm, Aidan <aidan.smarttalk@...> wrote:

I mean for recording. Is it more quiet than the ls14?

On 9/9/19, Dane Trethowan <grtdane@...> wrote:
So what aspect of sound are you referring to, playback sound?
If so then the LS-P4 has a smaller internal speaker than the LS-14
and the
LS-P4 on playback through the internal speaker sounds compressed so
again, wise to use headphones or another speaker of some sort.
The whole point of internal speakers to me is totally irrelevant as
I’ve never believed portable recorders should have them anyway - and
most of the better quality recorders don’t -, I’d rather a top
quality speaker or no speaker at all.


On 9 Sep 2019, at 7:27 pm, Aidan <aidan.smarttalk@...> wrote:

The dm7 is also just as accessible as the dm4, and it seem to be
gone, but what I like to know, is how does the sound of the lsp4
compair to the ls14? Also the auto gain. I normally like olympus
auto gain, but on the ls14 they didn't do a good jog there.

On 9/9/19, Dane Trethowan <grtdane@...> wrote:
I guess the DM initials made me think the DM720 had disappeared, I
had a
DM4
years ago.


On 9 Sep 2019, at 12:12 pm, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

What made you think this was gone? I thought it came out along
with either the P2 or P4. I should look into the 620 either on
EBay or Amazon. More as an MP3 player than a recorder. Because my
mile stone died and I don't like how the 14 doesn't hold your
place and goes too far back or forward when you rewind or fast
forward.

On 9/8/2019 9:33 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Speaking of Olympus recorders I just picked up a DM-720.
I thought the DM-720 had long been discontinued.
I plan to use this recorder for general dictation work and note
taking.


On 9 Sep 2019, at 11:22 am, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...>
wrote:

Yeah the LS-14 design is cool. I love the rubber down the sides.
Reminds
me of the Zoom H2. I haven't felt up an H2N or an H5 which I
recall Neal meantioning has rubber like stuff on it. In the case
of the 100 though I've never felt 1 up I do find that there's
something questionable wiht it what whith how wind gets into the
side. Something must not be seeled right.

On 9/8/2019 8:16 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
I don't know anything about the LS-7.
I have an Ls-14 which I also like a lot but it is radically
different than the LS-P4 and the LS-100 units I have.
In my opinion the LS-14 is the best built of all the Olympus
recorders with a tough plastic body and good rubber feet.
The feet of the LS-P4 are one of the recorders weaknesses and
won't last too long.


-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of
Hamit Campos
Sent: Monday, 9 September 2019 10:08 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] digital audio recorders: looking for a
specific type

Does the P4 look like the LS 7? Which the P2 apparently did. I
kinda liked that razer look.

On 9/8/2019 7:53 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Okay you said what I meant to say in my earlier post.
The Olympus LS-P4 isn’t a professional audio recorder and was
never intended to be.
If you want a professional audio recorder then you’re better
off starting with the Zoom H1N and working your way up from there.
For most audio recording jobs however the Olympus LS-P4 can
really shine.
Line-In jobs are a bit of a pain but can be done with the use
of an attenuation patch cord.
The other remarkable thing about the LS-P4 is the amount of
recording time you can get out of 1 AAA rechargeable battery.
Obviously the higher the sample and bit rate then the more
battery power is used but battery life can be improved
significantly if you choose to record in MP3 which may be all
you need of you’re recording lectures or other voice content.
The Olympus recorders offer plenty of scope for power saving
including the turning off or dimming of lights and as some of
us have no vision anyway lights are something we don’t really
need.


On 9 Sep 2019, at 9:42 am, Hamit Campos
<hamitcampos@...>
wrote:

Ah if ya want perfect than 1 must get the 744-T or what ever
the new thing is now. Hmmmmmmmmm maybe it's the 788-T. But in
any case yeah the points you made are all true and I agree. I
also like that zoom wide feature that even the DMs had. It
does make the stereo panning wider on your files. I know it
adds more floor as Neal pointed out with the P-2 but still an
epic feature. The fact they talk makes it so symple to do
stuff on the fly.

On 9/8/2019 4:31 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
I like many things about the LS-P4.
First is its size which is of that of a small candy bar.
Yes the menus talk and you can also set the clock however
the file listing doesn’t talk though that would be the only
thing.
The recorder handles up to 96K/24 Bit sampling and can also
record in FLAC as well as the usual MP3 and Wave formats.
The LS-P4 handles Bluetooth so you can stream the audio of
the recorder to a set of headphones, speakers and so on.
The recorder isn’t perfect but for less than $200 Australian
the Olympus is an absolute bargain for those wanting a handy
recorder to record.. well.. just about anything.


On 9 Sep 2019, at 4:16 am, Curtis Delzer
<curtis@...>
wrote:

what is it you particularly like about the ls-p4? does it
have menus which talk, etc.

THANKS!

Curtis Delzer
HS
K 6 V F O
Rialto, CA

curtis@...

On 9/2/2019 4:41 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
The problems with wind and the Olympus LS-100 are
incredibly bad, you just have to breathe on the machine to
hear the noise.
My favourite Olympous recorder by far is the LS-P4, at
last Olympus have something which perfectly fits into the
recorder range and does everything well except for playing
back audio through the internal speabut as people know
I've never judged recorders by their dreadful internal speakers anyway.
Its possible in my view that we won't see another Olympus
recorder with XLR inputs and Olympus will just cater for
the market it knows, the voice recorder and camera market.


-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf
Of Hamit Campos
Sent: Tuesday, 3 September 2019 9:19 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] digital audio recorders: looking
for a specific type

Oh yeah the wind into the buttons thing. I've never felt
up an
LS-100 but that sounds like there are openings someware
whre the wind is going into. I remember Neal mentioning
and demoing this.
I
didn't worry about it as much as had I got 1 like I do
with my
H6
I'd mostly use my AT-8022. Sure I did consider the issue
because for run and gunn quick out doors stuff it would be
a problem.
As
is the over censitivity of the XY H6 to wind. Dude those
guys can't take wind at all. Shocked me it did that the
LS-14 mics can handle more wind.

On 9/2/2019 6:38 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Unfortunately - as good as the LS-100 is - the recorder
has its share of problems.
Rule number one with the LS-100 recorder seems to be,
"Don't do any outdoor field recording".
Wind gets into this recorder even if the recorder is
dressed in a windscreen, that shouldn't happen with a
recorder supposedly as good as the LS-100 is.


-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf
Of Aidan
Sent: Tuesday, 3 September 2019 7:23 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] digital audio recorders: looking
for a specific type

But why did olympus stop the ls100, why did they not make
a new model improved? I am worried because they seem to
have less models now and the american site is not up rite
now. Hope they won't faid away, but even though, they
stil didn't get to the level zoom did, and its defnitly
wundering why not enough blind people use these? I mean
half of them might not even no what fantum power is.

On 9/2/19, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:
Actually as an adendum they being Olympus must've at 1
point because they did make the DM-4. So maybe they
figured it out even if when the first 3 DS recorders
that spoke only did for what ever ease of use reason they did to start with.

On 9/2/2019 4:40 PM, Hamit Campos via Groups.Io wrote:
Well for general recording it's usable enough. the only
real problems are that 1 no talking so you will need
help when menu diving. Then 2 no beeps music or nothing
like the PTRs or Olympus's so you'll need headphones to
know what is armed what's not and how many tracks are
armed. But for grabbing and going meh once you've
gotten the menu diving and track arming out of the way
you good. I have 1 and love it.
I got it because it's a 6 channal recorder and it has a
brighter sound than the LS 100. I only meantioned teh
100 because you asked for a "blind friendly" recorder.
Sad ain't it? That there's nothing that's
PTR2 accessible but with XLRs phantum and that is
studio grade.
Could it be that it's supposed that blind people either
don't care for studio gear or don't know enough to do
so? Sorry if that offends anyone but 1 does have to
wander why there's no true studio grade blind friendly
gear. Remember friends who knows why the Olympus DS
50 even spoke in the first place. Did olympus know or
care blind people used them? Who even knows.

On 9/2/2019 3:55 PM, Christopher Wright wrote:
How accessible is the h6?

On 9/2/2019 3:50 PM, Aidan wrote:
Yes, just keep in mind that ls100 cannot record from
2 or more inputs at the same time, only one at a
time. Whereas the zoom h6 can, and to turn each input
on/off, is very easy.

On 9/2/19, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:
There use to be, the Olympus LS-100. So if you can
find 1 on EBay or Amazon go for it.

On 9/2/2019 3:29 PM, Christopher Wright wrote:
Hi,

Is there a blind-user-friendly audio recorder that
has dual XLR/1/4″ combo inputs or one XLR input and
a 3.5mm input that goes to a separate channel?

This question was inspired by the following blog post:

https://thepodcastersstudio.com/recording-skype-wit
h-no-mix
er-or
-
software/


















Re: digital audio recorders: looking for a specific type

Dane Trethowan <grtdane@...>
 

I can’t honestly be sure but I can say that the LS-P4 is far better than the LS14 for recording quiet scenes.
I think the “Look Ahead” buffer in the LS-P4 is a far better idea than that of the “Smart Level” function of the LS14.

On 9 Sep 2019, at 7:36 pm, Aidan <aidan.smarttalk@...> wrote:

I mean for recording. Is it more quiet than the ls14?

On 9/9/19, Dane Trethowan <grtdane@...> wrote:
So what aspect of sound are you referring to, playback sound?
If so then the LS-P4 has a smaller internal speaker than the LS-14 and the
LS-P4 on playback through the internal speaker sounds compressed so again,
wise to use headphones or another speaker of some sort.
The whole point of internal speakers to me is totally irrelevant as I’ve
never believed portable recorders should have them anyway - and most of the
better quality recorders don’t -, I’d rather a top quality speaker or no
speaker at all.


On 9 Sep 2019, at 7:27 pm, Aidan <aidan.smarttalk@...> wrote:

The dm7 is also just as accessible as the dm4, and it seem to be gone,
but what I like to know, is how does the sound of the lsp4 compair to
the ls14? Also the auto gain. I normally like olympus auto gain, but
on the ls14 they didn't do a good jog there.

On 9/9/19, Dane Trethowan <grtdane@...> wrote:
I guess the DM initials made me think the DM720 had disappeared, I had a
DM4
years ago.


On 9 Sep 2019, at 12:12 pm, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

What made you think this was gone? I thought it came out along with
either
the P2 or P4. I should look into the 620 either on EBay or Amazon. More
as
an MP3 player than a recorder. Because my mile stone died and I don't
like
how the 14 doesn't hold your place and goes too far back or forward
when
you rewind or fast forward.

On 9/8/2019 9:33 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Speaking of Olympus recorders I just picked up a DM-720.
I thought the DM-720 had long been discontinued.
I plan to use this recorder for general dictation work and note
taking.


On 9 Sep 2019, at 11:22 am, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...>
wrote:

Yeah the LS-14 design is cool. I love the rubber down the sides.
Reminds
me of the Zoom H2. I haven't felt up an H2N or an H5 which I recall
Neal
meantioning has rubber like stuff on it. In the case of the 100
though
I've never felt 1 up I do find that there's something questionable
wiht
it what whith how wind gets into the side. Something must not be
seeled
right.

On 9/8/2019 8:16 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
I don't know anything about the LS-7.
I have an Ls-14 which I also like a lot but it is radically
different
than the LS-P4 and the LS-100 units I have.
In my opinion the LS-14 is the best built of all the Olympus
recorders
with a tough plastic body and good rubber feet.
The feet of the LS-P4 are one of the recorders weaknesses and won't
last too long.


-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Hamit
Campos
Sent: Monday, 9 September 2019 10:08 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] digital audio recorders: looking for a
specific type

Does the P4 look like the LS 7? Which the P2 apparently did. I kinda
liked that razer look.

On 9/8/2019 7:53 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Okay you said what I meant to say in my earlier post.
The Olympus LS-P4 isn’t a professional audio recorder and was never
intended to be.
If you want a professional audio recorder then you’re better off
starting with the Zoom H1N and working your way up from there.
For most audio recording jobs however the Olympus LS-P4 can really
shine.
Line-In jobs are a bit of a pain but can be done with the use of an
attenuation patch cord.
The other remarkable thing about the LS-P4 is the amount of
recording
time you can get out of 1 AAA rechargeable battery.
Obviously the higher the sample and bit rate then the more battery
power is used but battery life can be improved significantly if you
choose to record in MP3 which may be all you need of you’re
recording
lectures or other voice content.
The Olympus recorders offer plenty of scope for power saving
including
the turning off or dimming of lights and as some of us have no
vision
anyway lights are something we don’t really need.


On 9 Sep 2019, at 9:42 am, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...>
wrote:

Ah if ya want perfect than 1 must get the 744-T or what ever the
new
thing is now. Hmmmmmmmmm maybe it's the 788-T. But in any case
yeah
the points you made are all true and I agree. I also like that
zoom
wide feature that even the DMs had. It does make the stereo
panning
wider on your files. I know it adds more floor as Neal pointed out
with the P-2 but still an epic feature. The fact they talk makes
it
so symple to do stuff on the fly.

On 9/8/2019 4:31 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
I like many things about the LS-P4.
First is its size which is of that of a small candy bar.
Yes the menus talk and you can also set the clock however the
file
listing doesn’t talk though that would be the only thing.
The recorder handles up to 96K/24 Bit sampling and can also
record
in FLAC as well as the usual MP3 and Wave formats.
The LS-P4 handles Bluetooth so you can stream the audio of the
recorder to a set of headphones, speakers and so on.
The recorder isn’t perfect but for less than $200 Australian the
Olympus is an absolute bargain for those wanting a handy recorder
to
record.. well.. just about anything.


On 9 Sep 2019, at 4:16 am, Curtis Delzer <curtis@...>
wrote:

what is it you particularly like about the ls-p4? does it have
menus which talk, etc.

THANKS!

Curtis Delzer
HS
K 6 V F O
Rialto, CA

curtis@...

On 9/2/2019 4:41 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
The problems with wind and the Olympus LS-100 are incredibly
bad,
you just have to breathe on the machine to hear the noise.
My favourite Olympous recorder by far is the LS-P4, at last
Olympus have something which perfectly fits into the recorder
range and does everything well except for playing back audio
through the internal speabut as people know I've never judged
recorders by their dreadful internal speakers anyway.
Its possible in my view that we won't see another Olympus
recorder
with XLR inputs and Olympus will just cater for the market it
knows, the voice recorder and camera market.


-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of
Hamit
Campos
Sent: Tuesday, 3 September 2019 9:19 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] digital audio recorders: looking for a
specific type

Oh yeah the wind into the buttons thing. I've never felt up an
LS-100 but that sounds like there are openings someware whre
the
wind is going into. I remember Neal mentioning and demoing this.
I
didn't worry about it as much as had I got 1 like I do with my
H6
I'd mostly use my AT-8022. Sure I did consider the issue
because
for run and gunn quick out doors stuff it would be a problem.
As
is the over censitivity of the XY H6 to wind. Dude those guys
can't take wind at all. Shocked me it did that the LS-14 mics
can
handle more wind.

On 9/2/2019 6:38 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Unfortunately - as good as the LS-100 is - the recorder has
its
share of problems.
Rule number one with the LS-100 recorder seems to be, "Don't
do
any outdoor field recording".
Wind gets into this recorder even if the recorder is dressed in
a
windscreen, that shouldn't happen with a recorder supposedly
as
good as the LS-100 is.


-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of
Aidan
Sent: Tuesday, 3 September 2019 7:23 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] digital audio recorders: looking for
a
specific type

But why did olympus stop the ls100, why did they not make a
new
model improved? I am worried because they seem to have less
models now and the american site is not up rite now. Hope they
won't faid away, but even though, they stil didn't get to the
level zoom did, and its defnitly wundering why not enough
blind
people use these? I mean half of them might not even no what
fantum power is.

On 9/2/19, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:
Actually as an adendum they being Olympus must've at 1 point
because they did make the DM-4. So maybe they figured it out
even if when the first 3 DS recorders that spoke only did for
what ever ease of use reason they did to start with.

On 9/2/2019 4:40 PM, Hamit Campos via Groups.Io wrote:
Well for general recording it's usable enough. the only real
problems are that 1 no talking so you will need help when
menu
diving. Then 2 no beeps music or nothing like the PTRs or
Olympus's so you'll need headphones to know what is armed
what's not and how many tracks are armed. But for grabbing
and
going meh once you've gotten the menu diving and track
arming
out of the way you good. I have 1 and love it.
I got it because it's a 6 channal recorder and it has a
brighter sound than the LS 100. I only meantioned teh 100
because you asked for a "blind friendly" recorder. Sad ain't
it? That there's nothing that's
PTR2 accessible but with XLRs phantum and that is studio
grade.
Could it be that it's supposed that blind people either
don't
care for studio gear or don't know enough to do so? Sorry if
that offends anyone but 1 does have to wander why there's no
true studio grade blind friendly gear. Remember friends who
knows why the Olympus DS
50 even spoke in the first place. Did olympus know or care
blind people used them? Who even knows.

On 9/2/2019 3:55 PM, Christopher Wright wrote:
How accessible is the h6?

On 9/2/2019 3:50 PM, Aidan wrote:
Yes, just keep in mind that ls100 cannot record from 2 or
more inputs at the same time, only one at a time. Whereas
the
zoom h6 can, and to turn each input on/off, is very easy.

On 9/2/19, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:
There use to be, the Olympus LS-100. So if you can find 1
on
EBay or Amazon go for it.

On 9/2/2019 3:29 PM, Christopher Wright wrote:
Hi,

Is there a blind-user-friendly audio recorder that has
dual
XLR/1/4″ combo inputs or one XLR input and a 3.5mm input
that goes to a separate channel?

This question was inspired by the following blog post:

https://thepodcastersstudio.com/recording-skype-with-no-mix
er-or
-
software/


















h1n furder findings not discussed yet by anyone

Aidan
 

Ok, I got one of these for a few days now, and now hope to answer
stuff that were still remained unclear.
When working with the four buttons, audio format, LowCut, limiter, and
auto gain, its best to give each to quick presses to ensure that you
actually toggle a setting, because the first press only give status as
to the current setting value.
The formats in sequence, are to my knoledge:
wave 44.1/16bit. Wave 48/16bit, wave 48/24bit, wave 96/24bit, mp3
128kbps, mp3 192 kbps, mp3 256kbps, mp3 320kbps.
You can here the LowCut and limiter when they on/off when having
headphones connected.
To access the extra recording features, there is no menu button.
You must hold down the stop button, then while holding down, the for
buttons become the following from left to rite.
Auto record, pre record, self timer, and sound marker.

This makes it very easy to change settings.
So while holding down stop, you press the auto gain button for
example, twice, and it will turn on/off the sound marker.
When doing playback, this is what happens.
After pressing play, the back and forward buttons will skip files, and
to forward/rewind you must hold them down.
But dearing playback the four buttons shows the following.
from left to rite:
Mark, info, repeat, and moad.
And the marks you create when pressing the mark button only once per
time, will be usable in goldwave/soundforge.
I don't manage to see the marks in total recorder.
When pressing the LowCut wich become info dearing playbac, you enter a
file info screen wich you must navigate, and don't have much use to us
normally, so I didn't play there really.
Repeat also is working by pressing the button twice quickly to change
between, repeat one, repeat all, and off.
When pressing the auto gain button wich became moad dearing playback,
a new screen appears.
Then you find that the buttons from left to rite become:
Speed, Sound/EQ a - b repeat, and return to previous screen.
As the file play you will here as you change speed with the audio
format button, or the EQ with the LowCut button.
Same with A B repeat. And also while in that screen, the forward and
back buttons will move more rapitly fru the file when pressed and let
go as suppose to holding them down.
If you stop playback you can exit that screen or just press the auto
gain button wich will take you to the first playback screen you get
when pressing play, wich contain mark, info, repeat, and mode.
When connecting to pc this is what you get,
the USB screen each time a cable is connected, will lands on audio
interface mode or whatever they call it.
You then need to press the limiter once to move to card reader and
then press the auto gain button wich will act as enter, and mass
storage will connect.
When disconnecting from pc, and this was never discussed, I guess
there could be more than one way to do it, I don't no, but this is
what I found.
I press and hold down the stop button, then the format button becomes
direct monitor on/off, and the auto gain button becomes exit.
So while holding stop I press auto gain once, then the exit screen
comes up, then I press LowCut wich is up arrow, and auto gain for
enter, then it will return to the main screen and you will here pc
disconnect.
If you don't interact with it after removing the cable it won't return
to your file list or recording screen.

As for sound card mode, this is what you get.
When inserting the cable, it will move to audio interface mode each time.
Now you press auto gain to enter, then you can choose between pc/mac or ios.
It will land on pc/mac each time you press enter on the audio interface option.
So you can just press enter again, then it will ask for wich sorce you
want to use for power, Buss power or batteries?
It lands on buss power each time that promt is accessed, so you can
just press enter again. Only then your inputs and outputs will appear
in windows/mac.
I stil have to figure out ios mode.
When deleting a file you press delete, then LowCut for up arrow, then
enter/auto gain to except/confirm.
I stil have to figure out how to delete marks on the recorder.
Currently I delete them from GoldWave.
Lastly, to access the setting screen, (sited help is well needed here)
you hold down delete while powering on.
to update the firmware after copyed the bin file to the SD card, you
hold down the play/pause button while powering on.

And to overdub, you hold play/pause and then press record.
Just keep format set to wave.

Hope this can help as only some things were breethly mentioned and the
manual not well rittin.

Aidan


A rather strange sound problem

Yusuf Osman
 

Hi all, please bear with me whilst I describe the situation.

My desktop has an in-built sound card (NVIDIA) and a separate sound card (Strix). The former is used for my Screenreader (Jaws or NVDA) and the latter for recording via the line-in from sounds coming from my Amp.

I often like to listen to what I am recording whilst I am cooking in the kitchen, and in order to do this I connect a pair of Plantronics headphones via a Bluetooth dongle.

When these are plugged in and turned on, all the sounds from my in-built sound card I.E. Jaws and Windows come via the headphones. If I go in to the recording tab sheet of the sounds dialogue in windows no sound is heard at all. This only happens in that tab sheet and in no other. Additionally it only happens when the Plantronics headphones are connected. Luckily I have a braille display and am able to select the line-in and via it's properties select the listen checkbox. Once I've left that dialogue and the recording tab sheet Jaws, windows and the sound from the line-in all start playing over the headphones without an issue.

If anyone is still reading thanks. Does anyone know why sounds disappear when in the recording tab sheet but nowhere else? I used to have a similar setup with my previous computer and this didn't happen. I'm running Windows10.
Thanks
Yusuf


Re: digital audio recorders: looking for a specific type

Aidan
 

I mean for recording. Is it more quiet than the ls14?

On 9/9/19, Dane Trethowan <grtdane@...> wrote:
So what aspect of sound are you referring to, playback sound?
If so then the LS-P4 has a smaller internal speaker than the LS-14 and the
LS-P4 on playback through the internal speaker sounds compressed so again,
wise to use headphones or another speaker of some sort.
The whole point of internal speakers to me is totally irrelevant as I’ve
never believed portable recorders should have them anyway - and most of the
better quality recorders don’t -, I’d rather a top quality speaker or no
speaker at all.


On 9 Sep 2019, at 7:27 pm, Aidan <aidan.smarttalk@...> wrote:

The dm7 is also just as accessible as the dm4, and it seem to be gone,
but what I like to know, is how does the sound of the lsp4 compair to
the ls14? Also the auto gain. I normally like olympus auto gain, but
on the ls14 they didn't do a good jog there.

On 9/9/19, Dane Trethowan <grtdane@...> wrote:
I guess the DM initials made me think the DM720 had disappeared, I had a
DM4
years ago.


On 9 Sep 2019, at 12:12 pm, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

What made you think this was gone? I thought it came out along with
either
the P2 or P4. I should look into the 620 either on EBay or Amazon. More
as
an MP3 player than a recorder. Because my mile stone died and I don't
like
how the 14 doesn't hold your place and goes too far back or forward
when
you rewind or fast forward.

On 9/8/2019 9:33 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Speaking of Olympus recorders I just picked up a DM-720.
I thought the DM-720 had long been discontinued.
I plan to use this recorder for general dictation work and note
taking.


On 9 Sep 2019, at 11:22 am, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...>
wrote:

Yeah the LS-14 design is cool. I love the rubber down the sides.
Reminds
me of the Zoom H2. I haven't felt up an H2N or an H5 which I recall
Neal
meantioning has rubber like stuff on it. In the case of the 100
though
I've never felt 1 up I do find that there's something questionable
wiht
it what whith how wind gets into the side. Something must not be
seeled
right.

On 9/8/2019 8:16 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
I don't know anything about the LS-7.
I have an Ls-14 which I also like a lot but it is radically
different
than the LS-P4 and the LS-100 units I have.
In my opinion the LS-14 is the best built of all the Olympus
recorders
with a tough plastic body and good rubber feet.
The feet of the LS-P4 are one of the recorders weaknesses and won't
last too long.


-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Hamit
Campos
Sent: Monday, 9 September 2019 10:08 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] digital audio recorders: looking for a
specific type

Does the P4 look like the LS 7? Which the P2 apparently did. I kinda
liked that razer look.

On 9/8/2019 7:53 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Okay you said what I meant to say in my earlier post.
The Olympus LS-P4 isn’t a professional audio recorder and was never
intended to be.
If you want a professional audio recorder then you’re better off
starting with the Zoom H1N and working your way up from there.
For most audio recording jobs however the Olympus LS-P4 can really
shine.
Line-In jobs are a bit of a pain but can be done with the use of an
attenuation patch cord.
The other remarkable thing about the LS-P4 is the amount of
recording
time you can get out of 1 AAA rechargeable battery.
Obviously the higher the sample and bit rate then the more battery
power is used but battery life can be improved significantly if you
choose to record in MP3 which may be all you need of you’re
recording
lectures or other voice content.
The Olympus recorders offer plenty of scope for power saving
including
the turning off or dimming of lights and as some of us have no
vision
anyway lights are something we don’t really need.


On 9 Sep 2019, at 9:42 am, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...>
wrote:

Ah if ya want perfect than 1 must get the 744-T or what ever the
new
thing is now. Hmmmmmmmmm maybe it's the 788-T. But in any case
yeah
the points you made are all true and I agree. I also like that
zoom
wide feature that even the DMs had. It does make the stereo
panning
wider on your files. I know it adds more floor as Neal pointed out
with the P-2 but still an epic feature. The fact they talk makes
it
so symple to do stuff on the fly.

On 9/8/2019 4:31 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
I like many things about the LS-P4.
First is its size which is of that of a small candy bar.
Yes the menus talk and you can also set the clock however the
file
listing doesn’t talk though that would be the only thing.
The recorder handles up to 96K/24 Bit sampling and can also
record
in FLAC as well as the usual MP3 and Wave formats.
The LS-P4 handles Bluetooth so you can stream the audio of the
recorder to a set of headphones, speakers and so on.
The recorder isn’t perfect but for less than $200 Australian the
Olympus is an absolute bargain for those wanting a handy recorder
to
record.. well.. just about anything.


On 9 Sep 2019, at 4:16 am, Curtis Delzer <curtis@...>
wrote:

what is it you particularly like about the ls-p4? does it have
menus which talk, etc.

THANKS!

Curtis Delzer
HS
K 6 V F O
Rialto, CA

curtis@...

On 9/2/2019 4:41 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
The problems with wind and the Olympus LS-100 are incredibly
bad,
you just have to breathe on the machine to hear the noise.
My favourite Olympous recorder by far is the LS-P4, at last
Olympus have something which perfectly fits into the recorder
range and does everything well except for playing back audio
through the internal speabut as people know I've never judged
recorders by their dreadful internal speakers anyway.
Its possible in my view that we won't see another Olympus
recorder
with XLR inputs and Olympus will just cater for the market it
knows, the voice recorder and camera market.


-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of
Hamit
Campos
Sent: Tuesday, 3 September 2019 9:19 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] digital audio recorders: looking for a
specific type

Oh yeah the wind into the buttons thing. I've never felt up an
LS-100 but that sounds like there are openings someware whre
the
wind is going into. I remember Neal mentioning and demoing this.
I
didn't worry about it as much as had I got 1 like I do with my
H6
I'd mostly use my AT-8022. Sure I did consider the issue
because
for run and gunn quick out doors stuff it would be a problem.
As
is the over censitivity of the XY H6 to wind. Dude those guys
can't take wind at all. Shocked me it did that the LS-14 mics
can
handle more wind.

On 9/2/2019 6:38 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Unfortunately - as good as the LS-100 is - the recorder has
its
share of problems.
Rule number one with the LS-100 recorder seems to be, "Don't
do
any outdoor field recording".
Wind gets into this recorder even if the recorder is dressed in
a
windscreen, that shouldn't happen with a recorder supposedly
as
good as the LS-100 is.


-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of
Aidan
Sent: Tuesday, 3 September 2019 7:23 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] digital audio recorders: looking for
a
specific type

But why did olympus stop the ls100, why did they not make a
new
model improved? I am worried because they seem to have less
models now and the american site is not up rite now. Hope they
won't faid away, but even though, they stil didn't get to the
level zoom did, and its defnitly wundering why not enough
blind
people use these? I mean half of them might not even no what
fantum power is.

On 9/2/19, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:
Actually as an adendum they being Olympus must've at 1 point
because they did make the DM-4. So maybe they figured it out
even if when the first 3 DS recorders that spoke only did for
what ever ease of use reason they did to start with.

On 9/2/2019 4:40 PM, Hamit Campos via Groups.Io wrote:
Well for general recording it's usable enough. the only real
problems are that 1 no talking so you will need help when
menu
diving. Then 2 no beeps music or nothing like the PTRs or
Olympus's so you'll need headphones to know what is armed
what's not and how many tracks are armed. But for grabbing
and
going meh once you've gotten the menu diving and track
arming
out of the way you good. I have 1 and love it.
I got it because it's a 6 channal recorder and it has a
brighter sound than the LS 100. I only meantioned teh 100
because you asked for a "blind friendly" recorder. Sad ain't
it? That there's nothing that's
PTR2 accessible but with XLRs phantum and that is studio
grade.
Could it be that it's supposed that blind people either
don't
care for studio gear or don't know enough to do so? Sorry if
that offends anyone but 1 does have to wander why there's no
true studio grade blind friendly gear. Remember friends who
knows why the Olympus DS
50 even spoke in the first place. Did olympus know or care
blind people used them? Who even knows.

On 9/2/2019 3:55 PM, Christopher Wright wrote:
How accessible is the h6?

On 9/2/2019 3:50 PM, Aidan wrote:
Yes, just keep in mind that ls100 cannot record from 2 or
more inputs at the same time, only one at a time. Whereas
the
zoom h6 can, and to turn each input on/off, is very easy.

On 9/2/19, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:
There use to be, the Olympus LS-100. So if you can find 1
on
EBay or Amazon go for it.

On 9/2/2019 3:29 PM, Christopher Wright wrote:
Hi,

Is there a blind-user-friendly audio recorder that has
dual
XLR/1/4″ combo inputs or one XLR input and a 3.5mm input
that goes to a separate channel?

This question was inspired by the following blog post:

https://thepodcastersstudio.com/recording-skype-with-no-mix
er-or
-
software/

















Re: digital audio recorders: looking for a specific type

Dane Trethowan <grtdane@...>
 

So what aspect of sound are you referring to, playback sound?
If so then the LS-P4 has a smaller internal speaker than the LS-14 and the LS-P4 on playback through the internal speaker sounds compressed so again, wise to use headphones or another speaker of some sort.
The whole point of internal speakers to me is totally irrelevant as I’ve never believed portable recorders should have them anyway - and most of the better quality recorders don’t -, I’d rather a top quality speaker or no speaker at all.

On 9 Sep 2019, at 7:27 pm, Aidan <aidan.smarttalk@...> wrote:

The dm7 is also just as accessible as the dm4, and it seem to be gone,
but what I like to know, is how does the sound of the lsp4 compair to
the ls14? Also the auto gain. I normally like olympus auto gain, but
on the ls14 they didn't do a good jog there.

On 9/9/19, Dane Trethowan <grtdane@...> wrote:
I guess the DM initials made me think the DM720 had disappeared, I had a DM4
years ago.


On 9 Sep 2019, at 12:12 pm, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

What made you think this was gone? I thought it came out along with either
the P2 or P4. I should look into the 620 either on EBay or Amazon. More as
an MP3 player than a recorder. Because my mile stone died and I don't like
how the 14 doesn't hold your place and goes too far back or forward when
you rewind or fast forward.

On 9/8/2019 9:33 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Speaking of Olympus recorders I just picked up a DM-720.
I thought the DM-720 had long been discontinued.
I plan to use this recorder for general dictation work and note taking.


On 9 Sep 2019, at 11:22 am, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

Yeah the LS-14 design is cool. I love the rubber down the sides. Reminds
me of the Zoom H2. I haven't felt up an H2N or an H5 which I recall Neal
meantioning has rubber like stuff on it. In the case of the 100 though
I've never felt 1 up I do find that there's something questionable wiht
it what whith how wind gets into the side. Something must not be seeled
right.

On 9/8/2019 8:16 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
I don't know anything about the LS-7.
I have an Ls-14 which I also like a lot but it is radically different
than the LS-P4 and the LS-100 units I have.
In my opinion the LS-14 is the best built of all the Olympus recorders
with a tough plastic body and good rubber feet.
The feet of the LS-P4 are one of the recorders weaknesses and won't
last too long.


-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Hamit
Campos
Sent: Monday, 9 September 2019 10:08 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] digital audio recorders: looking for a
specific type

Does the P4 look like the LS 7? Which the P2 apparently did. I kinda
liked that razer look.

On 9/8/2019 7:53 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Okay you said what I meant to say in my earlier post.
The Olympus LS-P4 isn’t a professional audio recorder and was never
intended to be.
If you want a professional audio recorder then you’re better off
starting with the Zoom H1N and working your way up from there.
For most audio recording jobs however the Olympus LS-P4 can really
shine.
Line-In jobs are a bit of a pain but can be done with the use of an
attenuation patch cord.
The other remarkable thing about the LS-P4 is the amount of recording
time you can get out of 1 AAA rechargeable battery.
Obviously the higher the sample and bit rate then the more battery
power is used but battery life can be improved significantly if you
choose to record in MP3 which may be all you need of you’re recording
lectures or other voice content.
The Olympus recorders offer plenty of scope for power saving including
the turning off or dimming of lights and as some of us have no vision
anyway lights are something we don’t really need.


On 9 Sep 2019, at 9:42 am, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...>
wrote:

Ah if ya want perfect than 1 must get the 744-T or what ever the new
thing is now. Hmmmmmmmmm maybe it's the 788-T. But in any case yeah
the points you made are all true and I agree. I also like that zoom
wide feature that even the DMs had. It does make the stereo panning
wider on your files. I know it adds more floor as Neal pointed out
with the P-2 but still an epic feature. The fact they talk makes it
so symple to do stuff on the fly.

On 9/8/2019 4:31 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
I like many things about the LS-P4.
First is its size which is of that of a small candy bar.
Yes the menus talk and you can also set the clock however the file
listing doesn’t talk though that would be the only thing.
The recorder handles up to 96K/24 Bit sampling and can also record
in FLAC as well as the usual MP3 and Wave formats.
The LS-P4 handles Bluetooth so you can stream the audio of the
recorder to a set of headphones, speakers and so on.
The recorder isn’t perfect but for less than $200 Australian the
Olympus is an absolute bargain for those wanting a handy recorder to
record.. well.. just about anything.


On 9 Sep 2019, at 4:16 am, Curtis Delzer <curtis@...>
wrote:

what is it you particularly like about the ls-p4? does it have
menus which talk, etc.

THANKS!

Curtis Delzer
HS
K 6 V F O
Rialto, CA

curtis@...

On 9/2/2019 4:41 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
The problems with wind and the Olympus LS-100 are incredibly bad,
you just have to breathe on the machine to hear the noise.
My favourite Olympous recorder by far is the LS-P4, at last
Olympus have something which perfectly fits into the recorder
range and does everything well except for playing back audio
through the internal speabut as people know I've never judged
recorders by their dreadful internal speakers anyway.
Its possible in my view that we won't see another Olympus recorder
with XLR inputs and Olympus will just cater for the market it
knows, the voice recorder and camera market.


-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of
Hamit
Campos
Sent: Tuesday, 3 September 2019 9:19 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] digital audio recorders: looking for a
specific type

Oh yeah the wind into the buttons thing. I've never felt up an
LS-100 but that sounds like there are openings someware whre the
wind is going into. I remember Neal mentioning and demoing this. I
didn't worry about it as much as had I got 1 like I do with my H6
I'd mostly use my AT-8022. Sure I did consider the issue because
for run and gunn quick out doors stuff it would be a problem. As
is the over censitivity of the XY H6 to wind. Dude those guys
can't take wind at all. Shocked me it did that the LS-14 mics can
handle more wind.

On 9/2/2019 6:38 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Unfortunately - as good as the LS-100 is - the recorder has its
share of problems.
Rule number one with the LS-100 recorder seems to be, "Don't do
any outdoor field recording".
Wind gets into this recorder even if the recorder is dressed in a
windscreen, that shouldn't happen with a recorder supposedly as
good as the LS-100 is.


-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of
Aidan
Sent: Tuesday, 3 September 2019 7:23 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] digital audio recorders: looking for a
specific type

But why did olympus stop the ls100, why did they not make a new
model improved? I am worried because they seem to have less
models now and the american site is not up rite now. Hope they
won't faid away, but even though, they stil didn't get to the
level zoom did, and its defnitly wundering why not enough blind
people use these? I mean half of them might not even no what
fantum power is.

On 9/2/19, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:
Actually as an adendum they being Olympus must've at 1 point
because they did make the DM-4. So maybe they figured it out
even if when the first 3 DS recorders that spoke only did for
what ever ease of use reason they did to start with.

On 9/2/2019 4:40 PM, Hamit Campos via Groups.Io wrote:
Well for general recording it's usable enough. the only real
problems are that 1 no talking so you will need help when menu
diving. Then 2 no beeps music or nothing like the PTRs or
Olympus's so you'll need headphones to know what is armed
what's not and how many tracks are armed. But for grabbing and
going meh once you've gotten the menu diving and track arming
out of the way you good. I have 1 and love it.
I got it because it's a 6 channal recorder and it has a
brighter sound than the LS 100. I only meantioned teh 100
because you asked for a "blind friendly" recorder. Sad ain't
it? That there's nothing that's
PTR2 accessible but with XLRs phantum and that is studio
grade.
Could it be that it's supposed that blind people either don't
care for studio gear or don't know enough to do so? Sorry if
that offends anyone but 1 does have to wander why there's no
true studio grade blind friendly gear. Remember friends who
knows why the Olympus DS
50 even spoke in the first place. Did olympus know or care
blind people used them? Who even knows.

On 9/2/2019 3:55 PM, Christopher Wright wrote:
How accessible is the h6?

On 9/2/2019 3:50 PM, Aidan wrote:
Yes, just keep in mind that ls100 cannot record from 2 or
more inputs at the same time, only one at a time. Whereas
the
zoom h6 can, and to turn each input on/off, is very easy.

On 9/2/19, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:
There use to be, the Olympus LS-100. So if you can find 1
on
EBay or Amazon go for it.

On 9/2/2019 3:29 PM, Christopher Wright wrote:
Hi,

Is there a blind-user-friendly audio recorder that has
dual
XLR/1/4″ combo inputs or one XLR input and a 3.5mm input
that goes to a separate channel?

This question was inspired by the following blog post:

https://thepodcastersstudio.com/recording-skype-with-no-mix
er-or
-
software/














Re: digital audio recorders: looking for a specific type

Aidan
 

The dm7 is also just as accessible as the dm4, and it seem to be gone,
but what I like to know, is how does the sound of the lsp4 compair to
the ls14? Also the auto gain. I normally like olympus auto gain, but
on the ls14 they didn't do a good jog there.

On 9/9/19, Dane Trethowan <grtdane@...> wrote:
I guess the DM initials made me think the DM720 had disappeared, I had a DM4
years ago.


On 9 Sep 2019, at 12:12 pm, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

What made you think this was gone? I thought it came out along with either
the P2 or P4. I should look into the 620 either on EBay or Amazon. More as
an MP3 player than a recorder. Because my mile stone died and I don't like
how the 14 doesn't hold your place and goes too far back or forward when
you rewind or fast forward.

On 9/8/2019 9:33 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Speaking of Olympus recorders I just picked up a DM-720.
I thought the DM-720 had long been discontinued.
I plan to use this recorder for general dictation work and note taking.


On 9 Sep 2019, at 11:22 am, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

Yeah the LS-14 design is cool. I love the rubber down the sides. Reminds
me of the Zoom H2. I haven't felt up an H2N or an H5 which I recall Neal
meantioning has rubber like stuff on it. In the case of the 100 though
I've never felt 1 up I do find that there's something questionable wiht
it what whith how wind gets into the side. Something must not be seeled
right.

On 9/8/2019 8:16 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
I don't know anything about the LS-7.
I have an Ls-14 which I also like a lot but it is radically different
than the LS-P4 and the LS-100 units I have.
In my opinion the LS-14 is the best built of all the Olympus recorders
with a tough plastic body and good rubber feet.
The feet of the LS-P4 are one of the recorders weaknesses and won't
last too long.


-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Hamit
Campos
Sent: Monday, 9 September 2019 10:08 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] digital audio recorders: looking for a
specific type

Does the P4 look like the LS 7? Which the P2 apparently did. I kinda
liked that razer look.

On 9/8/2019 7:53 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Okay you said what I meant to say in my earlier post.
The Olympus LS-P4 isn’t a professional audio recorder and was never
intended to be.
If you want a professional audio recorder then you’re better off
starting with the Zoom H1N and working your way up from there.
For most audio recording jobs however the Olympus LS-P4 can really
shine.
Line-In jobs are a bit of a pain but can be done with the use of an
attenuation patch cord.
The other remarkable thing about the LS-P4 is the amount of recording
time you can get out of 1 AAA rechargeable battery.
Obviously the higher the sample and bit rate then the more battery
power is used but battery life can be improved significantly if you
choose to record in MP3 which may be all you need of you’re recording
lectures or other voice content.
The Olympus recorders offer plenty of scope for power saving including
the turning off or dimming of lights and as some of us have no vision
anyway lights are something we don’t really need.


On 9 Sep 2019, at 9:42 am, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...>
wrote:

Ah if ya want perfect than 1 must get the 744-T or what ever the new
thing is now. Hmmmmmmmmm maybe it's the 788-T. But in any case yeah
the points you made are all true and I agree. I also like that zoom
wide feature that even the DMs had. It does make the stereo panning
wider on your files. I know it adds more floor as Neal pointed out
with the P-2 but still an epic feature. The fact they talk makes it
so symple to do stuff on the fly.

On 9/8/2019 4:31 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
I like many things about the LS-P4.
First is its size which is of that of a small candy bar.
Yes the menus talk and you can also set the clock however the file
listing doesn’t talk though that would be the only thing.
The recorder handles up to 96K/24 Bit sampling and can also record
in FLAC as well as the usual MP3 and Wave formats.
The LS-P4 handles Bluetooth so you can stream the audio of the
recorder to a set of headphones, speakers and so on.
The recorder isn’t perfect but for less than $200 Australian the
Olympus is an absolute bargain for those wanting a handy recorder to
record.. well.. just about anything.


On 9 Sep 2019, at 4:16 am, Curtis Delzer <curtis@...>
wrote:

what is it you particularly like about the ls-p4? does it have
menus which talk, etc.

THANKS!

Curtis Delzer
HS
K 6 V F O
Rialto, CA

curtis@...

On 9/2/2019 4:41 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
The problems with wind and the Olympus LS-100 are incredibly bad,
you just have to breathe on the machine to hear the noise.
My favourite Olympous recorder by far is the LS-P4, at last
Olympus have something which perfectly fits into the recorder
range and does everything well except for playing back audio
through the internal speabut as people know I've never judged
recorders by their dreadful internal speakers anyway.
Its possible in my view that we won't see another Olympus recorder
with XLR inputs and Olympus will just cater for the market it
knows, the voice recorder and camera market.


-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of
Hamit
Campos
Sent: Tuesday, 3 September 2019 9:19 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] digital audio recorders: looking for a
specific type

Oh yeah the wind into the buttons thing. I've never felt up an
LS-100 but that sounds like there are openings someware whre the
wind is going into. I remember Neal mentioning and demoing this. I
didn't worry about it as much as had I got 1 like I do with my H6
I'd mostly use my AT-8022. Sure I did consider the issue because
for run and gunn quick out doors stuff it would be a problem. As
is the over censitivity of the XY H6 to wind. Dude those guys
can't take wind at all. Shocked me it did that the LS-14 mics can
handle more wind.

On 9/2/2019 6:38 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Unfortunately - as good as the LS-100 is - the recorder has its
share of problems.
Rule number one with the LS-100 recorder seems to be, "Don't do
any outdoor field recording".
Wind gets into this recorder even if the recorder is dressed in a
windscreen, that shouldn't happen with a recorder supposedly as
good as the LS-100 is.


-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of
Aidan
Sent: Tuesday, 3 September 2019 7:23 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] digital audio recorders: looking for a
specific type

But why did olympus stop the ls100, why did they not make a new
model improved? I am worried because they seem to have less
models now and the american site is not up rite now. Hope they
won't faid away, but even though, they stil didn't get to the
level zoom did, and its defnitly wundering why not enough blind
people use these? I mean half of them might not even no what
fantum power is.

On 9/2/19, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:
Actually as an adendum they being Olympus must've at 1 point
because they did make the DM-4. So maybe they figured it out
even if when the first 3 DS recorders that spoke only did for
what ever ease of use reason they did to start with.

On 9/2/2019 4:40 PM, Hamit Campos via Groups.Io wrote:
Well for general recording it's usable enough. the only real
problems are that 1 no talking so you will need help when menu
diving. Then 2 no beeps music or nothing like the PTRs or
Olympus's so you'll need headphones to know what is armed
what's not and how many tracks are armed. But for grabbing and
going meh once you've gotten the menu diving and track arming
out of the way you good. I have 1 and love it.
I got it because it's a 6 channal recorder and it has a
brighter sound than the LS 100. I only meantioned teh 100
because you asked for a "blind friendly" recorder. Sad ain't
it? That there's nothing that's
PTR2 accessible but with XLRs phantum and that is studio
grade.
Could it be that it's supposed that blind people either don't
care for studio gear or don't know enough to do so? Sorry if
that offends anyone but 1 does have to wander why there's no
true studio grade blind friendly gear. Remember friends who
knows why the Olympus DS
50 even spoke in the first place. Did olympus know or care
blind people used them? Who even knows.

On 9/2/2019 3:55 PM, Christopher Wright wrote:
How accessible is the h6?

On 9/2/2019 3:50 PM, Aidan wrote:
Yes, just keep in mind that ls100 cannot record from 2 or
more inputs at the same time, only one at a time. Whereas
the
zoom h6 can, and to turn each input on/off, is very easy.

On 9/2/19, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:
There use to be, the Olympus LS-100. So if you can find 1
on
EBay or Amazon go for it.

On 9/2/2019 3:29 PM, Christopher Wright wrote:
Hi,

Is there a blind-user-friendly audio recorder that has
dual
XLR/1/4″ combo inputs or one XLR input and a 3.5mm input
that goes to a separate channel?

This question was inspired by the following blog post:

https://thepodcastersstudio.com/recording-skype-with-no-mix
er-or
-
software/













Re: digital audio recorders: looking for a specific type

Dane Trethowan <grtdane@...>
 

I guess the DM initials made me think the DM720 had disappeared, I had a DM4 years ago.

On 9 Sep 2019, at 12:12 pm, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

What made you think this was gone? I thought it came out along with either the P2 or P4. I should look into the 620 either on EBay or Amazon. More as an MP3 player than a recorder. Because my mile stone died and I don't like how the 14 doesn't hold your place and goes too far back or forward when you rewind or fast forward.

On 9/8/2019 9:33 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Speaking of Olympus recorders I just picked up a DM-720.
I thought the DM-720 had long been discontinued.
I plan to use this recorder for general dictation work and note taking.


On 9 Sep 2019, at 11:22 am, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

Yeah the LS-14 design is cool. I love the rubber down the sides. Reminds me of the Zoom H2. I haven't felt up an H2N or an H5 which I recall Neal meantioning has rubber like stuff on it. In the case of the 100 though I've never felt 1 up I do find that there's something questionable wiht it what whith how wind gets into the side. Something must not be seeled right.

On 9/8/2019 8:16 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
I don't know anything about the LS-7.
I have an Ls-14 which I also like a lot but it is radically different than the LS-P4 and the LS-100 units I have.
In my opinion the LS-14 is the best built of all the Olympus recorders with a tough plastic body and good rubber feet.
The feet of the LS-P4 are one of the recorders weaknesses and won't last too long.


-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
Sent: Monday, 9 September 2019 10:08 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] digital audio recorders: looking for a specific type

Does the P4 look like the LS 7? Which the P2 apparently did. I kinda liked that razer look.

On 9/8/2019 7:53 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Okay you said what I meant to say in my earlier post.
The Olympus LS-P4 isn’t a professional audio recorder and was never intended to be.
If you want a professional audio recorder then you’re better off starting with the Zoom H1N and working your way up from there.
For most audio recording jobs however the Olympus LS-P4 can really shine.
Line-In jobs are a bit of a pain but can be done with the use of an attenuation patch cord.
The other remarkable thing about the LS-P4 is the amount of recording time you can get out of 1 AAA rechargeable battery.
Obviously the higher the sample and bit rate then the more battery power is used but battery life can be improved significantly if you choose to record in MP3 which may be all you need of you’re recording lectures or other voice content.
The Olympus recorders offer plenty of scope for power saving including the turning off or dimming of lights and as some of us have no vision anyway lights are something we don’t really need.


On 9 Sep 2019, at 9:42 am, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

Ah if ya want perfect than 1 must get the 744-T or what ever the new thing is now. Hmmmmmmmmm maybe it's the 788-T. But in any case yeah the points you made are all true and I agree. I also like that zoom wide feature that even the DMs had. It does make the stereo panning wider on your files. I know it adds more floor as Neal pointed out with the P-2 but still an epic feature. The fact they talk makes it so symple to do stuff on the fly.

On 9/8/2019 4:31 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
I like many things about the LS-P4.
First is its size which is of that of a small candy bar.
Yes the menus talk and you can also set the clock however the file listing doesn’t talk though that would be the only thing.
The recorder handles up to 96K/24 Bit sampling and can also record in FLAC as well as the usual MP3 and Wave formats.
The LS-P4 handles Bluetooth so you can stream the audio of the recorder to a set of headphones, speakers and so on.
The recorder isn’t perfect but for less than $200 Australian the Olympus is an absolute bargain for those wanting a handy recorder to record.. well.. just about anything.


On 9 Sep 2019, at 4:16 am, Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:

what is it you particularly like about the ls-p4? does it have menus which talk, etc.

THANKS!

Curtis Delzer
HS
K 6 V F O
Rialto, CA

curtis@...

On 9/2/2019 4:41 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
The problems with wind and the Olympus LS-100 are incredibly bad, you just have to breathe on the machine to hear the noise.
My favourite Olympous recorder by far is the LS-P4, at last Olympus have something which perfectly fits into the recorder range and does everything well except for playing back audio through the internal speabut as people know I've never judged recorders by their dreadful internal speakers anyway.
Its possible in my view that we won't see another Olympus recorder with XLR inputs and Olympus will just cater for the market it knows, the voice recorder and camera market.


-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Hamit
Campos
Sent: Tuesday, 3 September 2019 9:19 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] digital audio recorders: looking for a
specific type

Oh yeah the wind into the buttons thing. I've never felt up an LS-100 but that sounds like there are openings someware whre the wind is going into. I remember Neal mentioning and demoing this. I didn't worry about it as much as had I got 1 like I do with my H6 I'd mostly use my AT-8022. Sure I did consider the issue because for run and gunn quick out doors stuff it would be a problem. As is the over censitivity of the XY H6 to wind. Dude those guys can't take wind at all. Shocked me it did that the LS-14 mics can handle more wind.

On 9/2/2019 6:38 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Unfortunately - as good as the LS-100 is - the recorder has its share of problems.
Rule number one with the LS-100 recorder seems to be, "Don't do any outdoor field recording".
Wind gets into this recorder even if the recorder is dressed in a windscreen, that shouldn't happen with a recorder supposedly as good as the LS-100 is.


-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of
Aidan
Sent: Tuesday, 3 September 2019 7:23 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] digital audio recorders: looking for a
specific type

But why did olympus stop the ls100, why did they not make a new model improved? I am worried because they seem to have less models now and the american site is not up rite now. Hope they won't faid away, but even though, they stil didn't get to the level zoom did, and its defnitly wundering why not enough blind people use these? I mean half of them might not even no what fantum power is.

On 9/2/19, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:
Actually as an adendum they being Olympus must've at 1 point
because they did make the DM-4. So maybe they figured it out
even if when the first 3 DS recorders that spoke only did for
what ever ease of use reason they did to start with.

On 9/2/2019 4:40 PM, Hamit Campos via Groups.Io wrote:
Well for general recording it's usable enough. the only real
problems are that 1 no talking so you will need help when menu
diving. Then 2 no beeps music or nothing like the PTRs or
Olympus's so you'll need headphones to know what is armed
what's not and how many tracks are armed. But for grabbing and
going meh once you've gotten the menu diving and track arming out of the way you good. I have 1 and love it.
I got it because it's a 6 channal recorder and it has a
brighter sound than the LS 100. I only meantioned teh 100
because you asked for a "blind friendly" recorder. Sad ain't
it? That there's nothing that's
PTR2 accessible but with XLRs phantum and that is studio grade.
Could it be that it's supposed that blind people either don't
care for studio gear or don't know enough to do so? Sorry if
that offends anyone but 1 does have to wander why there's no
true studio grade blind friendly gear. Remember friends who
knows why the Olympus DS
50 even spoke in the first place. Did olympus know or care
blind people used them? Who even knows.

On 9/2/2019 3:55 PM, Christopher Wright wrote:
How accessible is the h6?

On 9/2/2019 3:50 PM, Aidan wrote:
Yes, just keep in mind that ls100 cannot record from 2 or
more inputs at the same time, only one at a time. Whereas the
zoom h6 can, and to turn each input on/off, is very easy.

On 9/2/19, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:
There use to be, the Olympus LS-100. So if you can find 1 on
EBay or Amazon go for it.

On 9/2/2019 3:29 PM, Christopher Wright wrote:
Hi,

Is there a blind-user-friendly audio recorder that has dual
XLR/1/4″ combo inputs or one XLR input and a 3.5mm input
that goes to a separate channel?

This question was inspired by the following blog post:

https://thepodcastersstudio.com/recording-skype-with-no-mix
er-or
-
software/










Re: digital audio recorders: looking for a specific type

Hamit Campos
 

What made you think this was gone? I thought it came out along with either the P2 or P4. I should look into the 620 either on EBay or Amazon. More as an MP3 player than a recorder. Because my mile stone died and I don't like how the 14 doesn't hold your place and goes too far back or forward when you rewind or fast forward.

On 9/8/2019 9:33 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Speaking of Olympus recorders I just picked up a DM-720.
I thought the DM-720 had long been discontinued.
I plan to use this recorder for general dictation work and note taking.


On 9 Sep 2019, at 11:22 am, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

Yeah the LS-14 design is cool. I love the rubber down the sides. Reminds me of the Zoom H2. I haven't felt up an H2N or an H5 which I recall Neal meantioning has rubber like stuff on it. In the case of the 100 though I've never felt 1 up I do find that there's something questionable wiht it what whith how wind gets into the side. Something must not be seeled right.

On 9/8/2019 8:16 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
I don't know anything about the LS-7.
I have an Ls-14 which I also like a lot but it is radically different than the LS-P4 and the LS-100 units I have.
In my opinion the LS-14 is the best built of all the Olympus recorders with a tough plastic body and good rubber feet.
The feet of the LS-P4 are one of the recorders weaknesses and won't last too long.


-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
Sent: Monday, 9 September 2019 10:08 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] digital audio recorders: looking for a specific type

Does the P4 look like the LS 7? Which the P2 apparently did. I kinda liked that razer look.

On 9/8/2019 7:53 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Okay you said what I meant to say in my earlier post.
The Olympus LS-P4 isn’t a professional audio recorder and was never intended to be.
If you want a professional audio recorder then you’re better off starting with the Zoom H1N and working your way up from there.
For most audio recording jobs however the Olympus LS-P4 can really shine.
Line-In jobs are a bit of a pain but can be done with the use of an attenuation patch cord.
The other remarkable thing about the LS-P4 is the amount of recording time you can get out of 1 AAA rechargeable battery.
Obviously the higher the sample and bit rate then the more battery power is used but battery life can be improved significantly if you choose to record in MP3 which may be all you need of you’re recording lectures or other voice content.
The Olympus recorders offer plenty of scope for power saving including the turning off or dimming of lights and as some of us have no vision anyway lights are something we don’t really need.


On 9 Sep 2019, at 9:42 am, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

Ah if ya want perfect than 1 must get the 744-T or what ever the new thing is now. Hmmmmmmmmm maybe it's the 788-T. But in any case yeah the points you made are all true and I agree. I also like that zoom wide feature that even the DMs had. It does make the stereo panning wider on your files. I know it adds more floor as Neal pointed out with the P-2 but still an epic feature. The fact they talk makes it so symple to do stuff on the fly.

On 9/8/2019 4:31 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
I like many things about the LS-P4.
First is its size which is of that of a small candy bar.
Yes the menus talk and you can also set the clock however the file listing doesn’t talk though that would be the only thing.
The recorder handles up to 96K/24 Bit sampling and can also record in FLAC as well as the usual MP3 and Wave formats.
The LS-P4 handles Bluetooth so you can stream the audio of the recorder to a set of headphones, speakers and so on.
The recorder isn’t perfect but for less than $200 Australian the Olympus is an absolute bargain for those wanting a handy recorder to record.. well.. just about anything.


On 9 Sep 2019, at 4:16 am, Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:

what is it you particularly like about the ls-p4? does it have menus which talk, etc.

THANKS!

Curtis Delzer
HS
K 6 V F O
Rialto, CA

curtis@...

On 9/2/2019 4:41 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
The problems with wind and the Olympus LS-100 are incredibly bad, you just have to breathe on the machine to hear the noise.
My favourite Olympous recorder by far is the LS-P4, at last Olympus have something which perfectly fits into the recorder range and does everything well except for playing back audio through the internal speabut as people know I've never judged recorders by their dreadful internal speakers anyway.
Its possible in my view that we won't see another Olympus recorder with XLR inputs and Olympus will just cater for the market it knows, the voice recorder and camera market.


-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Hamit
Campos
Sent: Tuesday, 3 September 2019 9:19 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] digital audio recorders: looking for a
specific type

Oh yeah the wind into the buttons thing. I've never felt up an LS-100 but that sounds like there are openings someware whre the wind is going into. I remember Neal mentioning and demoing this. I didn't worry about it as much as had I got 1 like I do with my H6 I'd mostly use my AT-8022. Sure I did consider the issue because for run and gunn quick out doors stuff it would be a problem. As is the over censitivity of the XY H6 to wind. Dude those guys can't take wind at all. Shocked me it did that the LS-14 mics can handle more wind.

On 9/2/2019 6:38 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Unfortunately - as good as the LS-100 is - the recorder has its share of problems.
Rule number one with the LS-100 recorder seems to be, "Don't do any outdoor field recording".
Wind gets into this recorder even if the recorder is dressed in a windscreen, that shouldn't happen with a recorder supposedly as good as the LS-100 is.


-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of
Aidan
Sent: Tuesday, 3 September 2019 7:23 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] digital audio recorders: looking for a
specific type

But why did olympus stop the ls100, why did they not make a new model improved? I am worried because they seem to have less models now and the american site is not up rite now. Hope they won't faid away, but even though, they stil didn't get to the level zoom did, and its defnitly wundering why not enough blind people use these? I mean half of them might not even no what fantum power is.

On 9/2/19, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:
Actually as an adendum they being Olympus must've at 1 point
because they did make the DM-4. So maybe they figured it out
even if when the first 3 DS recorders that spoke only did for
what ever ease of use reason they did to start with.

On 9/2/2019 4:40 PM, Hamit Campos via Groups.Io wrote:
Well for general recording it's usable enough. the only real
problems are that 1 no talking so you will need help when menu
diving. Then 2 no beeps music or nothing like the PTRs or
Olympus's so you'll need headphones to know what is armed
what's not and how many tracks are armed. But for grabbing and
going meh once you've gotten the menu diving and track arming out of the way you good. I have 1 and love it.
I got it because it's a 6 channal recorder and it has a
brighter sound than the LS 100. I only meantioned teh 100
because you asked for a "blind friendly" recorder. Sad ain't
it? That there's nothing that's
PTR2 accessible but with XLRs phantum and that is studio grade.
Could it be that it's supposed that blind people either don't
care for studio gear or don't know enough to do so? Sorry if
that offends anyone but 1 does have to wander why there's no
true studio grade blind friendly gear. Remember friends who
knows why the Olympus DS
50 even spoke in the first place. Did olympus know or care
blind people used them? Who even knows.

On 9/2/2019 3:55 PM, Christopher Wright wrote:
How accessible is the h6?

On 9/2/2019 3:50 PM, Aidan wrote:
Yes, just keep in mind that ls100 cannot record from 2 or
more inputs at the same time, only one at a time. Whereas the
zoom h6 can, and to turn each input on/off, is very easy.

On 9/2/19, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:
There use to be, the Olympus LS-100. So if you can find 1 on
EBay or Amazon go for it.

On 9/2/2019 3:29 PM, Christopher Wright wrote:
Hi,

Is there a blind-user-friendly audio recorder that has dual
XLR/1/4″ combo inputs or one XLR input and a 3.5mm input
that goes to a separate channel?

This question was inspired by the following blog post:

https://thepodcastersstudio.com/recording-skype-with-no-mix
er-or
-
software/








Re: digital audio recorders: looking for a specific type

Dane Trethowan <grtdane@...>
 

Speaking of Olympus recorders I just picked up a DM-720.
I thought the DM-720 had long been discontinued.
I plan to use this recorder for general dictation work and note taking.

On 9 Sep 2019, at 11:22 am, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

Yeah the LS-14 design is cool. I love the rubber down the sides. Reminds me of the Zoom H2. I haven't felt up an H2N or an H5 which I recall Neal meantioning has rubber like stuff on it. In the case of the 100 though I've never felt 1 up I do find that there's something questionable wiht it what whith how wind gets into the side. Something must not be seeled right.

On 9/8/2019 8:16 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
I don't know anything about the LS-7.
I have an Ls-14 which I also like a lot but it is radically different than the LS-P4 and the LS-100 units I have.
In my opinion the LS-14 is the best built of all the Olympus recorders with a tough plastic body and good rubber feet.
The feet of the LS-P4 are one of the recorders weaknesses and won't last too long.


-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
Sent: Monday, 9 September 2019 10:08 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] digital audio recorders: looking for a specific type

Does the P4 look like the LS 7? Which the P2 apparently did. I kinda liked that razer look.

On 9/8/2019 7:53 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Okay you said what I meant to say in my earlier post.
The Olympus LS-P4 isn’t a professional audio recorder and was never intended to be.
If you want a professional audio recorder then you’re better off starting with the Zoom H1N and working your way up from there.
For most audio recording jobs however the Olympus LS-P4 can really shine.
Line-In jobs are a bit of a pain but can be done with the use of an attenuation patch cord.
The other remarkable thing about the LS-P4 is the amount of recording time you can get out of 1 AAA rechargeable battery.
Obviously the higher the sample and bit rate then the more battery power is used but battery life can be improved significantly if you choose to record in MP3 which may be all you need of you’re recording lectures or other voice content.
The Olympus recorders offer plenty of scope for power saving including the turning off or dimming of lights and as some of us have no vision anyway lights are something we don’t really need.


On 9 Sep 2019, at 9:42 am, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

Ah if ya want perfect than 1 must get the 744-T or what ever the new thing is now. Hmmmmmmmmm maybe it's the 788-T. But in any case yeah the points you made are all true and I agree. I also like that zoom wide feature that even the DMs had. It does make the stereo panning wider on your files. I know it adds more floor as Neal pointed out with the P-2 but still an epic feature. The fact they talk makes it so symple to do stuff on the fly.

On 9/8/2019 4:31 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
I like many things about the LS-P4.
First is its size which is of that of a small candy bar.
Yes the menus talk and you can also set the clock however the file listing doesn’t talk though that would be the only thing.
The recorder handles up to 96K/24 Bit sampling and can also record in FLAC as well as the usual MP3 and Wave formats.
The LS-P4 handles Bluetooth so you can stream the audio of the recorder to a set of headphones, speakers and so on.
The recorder isn’t perfect but for less than $200 Australian the Olympus is an absolute bargain for those wanting a handy recorder to record.. well.. just about anything.


On 9 Sep 2019, at 4:16 am, Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:

what is it you particularly like about the ls-p4? does it have menus which talk, etc.

THANKS!

Curtis Delzer
HS
K 6 V F O
Rialto, CA

curtis@...

On 9/2/2019 4:41 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
The problems with wind and the Olympus LS-100 are incredibly bad, you just have to breathe on the machine to hear the noise.
My favourite Olympous recorder by far is the LS-P4, at last Olympus have something which perfectly fits into the recorder range and does everything well except for playing back audio through the internal speabut as people know I've never judged recorders by their dreadful internal speakers anyway.
Its possible in my view that we won't see another Olympus recorder with XLR inputs and Olympus will just cater for the market it knows, the voice recorder and camera market.


-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Hamit
Campos
Sent: Tuesday, 3 September 2019 9:19 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] digital audio recorders: looking for a
specific type

Oh yeah the wind into the buttons thing. I've never felt up an LS-100 but that sounds like there are openings someware whre the wind is going into. I remember Neal mentioning and demoing this. I didn't worry about it as much as had I got 1 like I do with my H6 I'd mostly use my AT-8022. Sure I did consider the issue because for run and gunn quick out doors stuff it would be a problem. As is the over censitivity of the XY H6 to wind. Dude those guys can't take wind at all. Shocked me it did that the LS-14 mics can handle more wind.

On 9/2/2019 6:38 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Unfortunately - as good as the LS-100 is - the recorder has its share of problems.
Rule number one with the LS-100 recorder seems to be, "Don't do any outdoor field recording".
Wind gets into this recorder even if the recorder is dressed in a windscreen, that shouldn't happen with a recorder supposedly as good as the LS-100 is.


-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of
Aidan
Sent: Tuesday, 3 September 2019 7:23 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] digital audio recorders: looking for a
specific type

But why did olympus stop the ls100, why did they not make a new model improved? I am worried because they seem to have less models now and the american site is not up rite now. Hope they won't faid away, but even though, they stil didn't get to the level zoom did, and its defnitly wundering why not enough blind people use these? I mean half of them might not even no what fantum power is.

On 9/2/19, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:
Actually as an adendum they being Olympus must've at 1 point
because they did make the DM-4. So maybe they figured it out
even if when the first 3 DS recorders that spoke only did for
what ever ease of use reason they did to start with.

On 9/2/2019 4:40 PM, Hamit Campos via Groups.Io wrote:
Well for general recording it's usable enough. the only real
problems are that 1 no talking so you will need help when menu
diving. Then 2 no beeps music or nothing like the PTRs or
Olympus's so you'll need headphones to know what is armed
what's not and how many tracks are armed. But for grabbing and
going meh once you've gotten the menu diving and track arming out of the way you good. I have 1 and love it.
I got it because it's a 6 channal recorder and it has a
brighter sound than the LS 100. I only meantioned teh 100
because you asked for a "blind friendly" recorder. Sad ain't
it? That there's nothing that's
PTR2 accessible but with XLRs phantum and that is studio grade.
Could it be that it's supposed that blind people either don't
care for studio gear or don't know enough to do so? Sorry if
that offends anyone but 1 does have to wander why there's no
true studio grade blind friendly gear. Remember friends who
knows why the Olympus DS
50 even spoke in the first place. Did olympus know or care
blind people used them? Who even knows.

On 9/2/2019 3:55 PM, Christopher Wright wrote:
How accessible is the h6?

On 9/2/2019 3:50 PM, Aidan wrote:
Yes, just keep in mind that ls100 cannot record from 2 or
more inputs at the same time, only one at a time. Whereas the
zoom h6 can, and to turn each input on/off, is very easy.

On 9/2/19, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:
There use to be, the Olympus LS-100. So if you can find 1 on
EBay or Amazon go for it.

On 9/2/2019 3:29 PM, Christopher Wright wrote:
Hi,

Is there a blind-user-friendly audio recorder that has dual
XLR/1/4″ combo inputs or one XLR input and a 3.5mm input
that goes to a separate channel?

This question was inspired by the following blog post:

https://thepodcastersstudio.com/recording-skype-with-no-mix
er-or
-
software/










Re: digital audio recorders: looking for a specific type

Hamit Campos
 

Yeah the LS-14 design is cool. I love the rubber down the sides. Reminds me of the Zoom H2. I haven't felt up an H2N or an H5 which I recall Neal meantioning has rubber like stuff on it. In the case of the 100 though I've never felt 1 up I do find that there's something questionable wiht it what whith how wind gets into the side. Something must not be seeled right.

On 9/8/2019 8:16 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
I don't know anything about the LS-7.
I have an Ls-14 which I also like a lot but it is radically different than the LS-P4 and the LS-100 units I have.
In my opinion the LS-14 is the best built of all the Olympus recorders with a tough plastic body and good rubber feet.
The feet of the LS-P4 are one of the recorders weaknesses and won't last too long.


-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
Sent: Monday, 9 September 2019 10:08 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] digital audio recorders: looking for a specific type

Does the P4 look like the LS 7? Which the P2 apparently did. I kinda liked that razer look.

On 9/8/2019 7:53 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Okay you said what I meant to say in my earlier post.
The Olympus LS-P4 isn’t a professional audio recorder and was never intended to be.
If you want a professional audio recorder then you’re better off starting with the Zoom H1N and working your way up from there.
For most audio recording jobs however the Olympus LS-P4 can really shine.
Line-In jobs are a bit of a pain but can be done with the use of an attenuation patch cord.
The other remarkable thing about the LS-P4 is the amount of recording time you can get out of 1 AAA rechargeable battery.
Obviously the higher the sample and bit rate then the more battery power is used but battery life can be improved significantly if you choose to record in MP3 which may be all you need of you’re recording lectures or other voice content.
The Olympus recorders offer plenty of scope for power saving including the turning off or dimming of lights and as some of us have no vision anyway lights are something we don’t really need.


On 9 Sep 2019, at 9:42 am, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

Ah if ya want perfect than 1 must get the 744-T or what ever the new thing is now. Hmmmmmmmmm maybe it's the 788-T. But in any case yeah the points you made are all true and I agree. I also like that zoom wide feature that even the DMs had. It does make the stereo panning wider on your files. I know it adds more floor as Neal pointed out with the P-2 but still an epic feature. The fact they talk makes it so symple to do stuff on the fly.

On 9/8/2019 4:31 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
I like many things about the LS-P4.
First is its size which is of that of a small candy bar.
Yes the menus talk and you can also set the clock however the file listing doesn’t talk though that would be the only thing.
The recorder handles up to 96K/24 Bit sampling and can also record in FLAC as well as the usual MP3 and Wave formats.
The LS-P4 handles Bluetooth so you can stream the audio of the recorder to a set of headphones, speakers and so on.
The recorder isn’t perfect but for less than $200 Australian the Olympus is an absolute bargain for those wanting a handy recorder to record.. well.. just about anything.


On 9 Sep 2019, at 4:16 am, Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:

what is it you particularly like about the ls-p4? does it have menus which talk, etc.

THANKS!

Curtis Delzer
HS
K 6 V F O
Rialto, CA

curtis@...

On 9/2/2019 4:41 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
The problems with wind and the Olympus LS-100 are incredibly bad, you just have to breathe on the machine to hear the noise.
My favourite Olympous recorder by far is the LS-P4, at last Olympus have something which perfectly fits into the recorder range and does everything well except for playing back audio through the internal speabut as people know I've never judged recorders by their dreadful internal speakers anyway.
Its possible in my view that we won't see another Olympus recorder with XLR inputs and Olympus will just cater for the market it knows, the voice recorder and camera market.


-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Hamit
Campos
Sent: Tuesday, 3 September 2019 9:19 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] digital audio recorders: looking for a
specific type

Oh yeah the wind into the buttons thing. I've never felt up an LS-100 but that sounds like there are openings someware whre the wind is going into. I remember Neal mentioning and demoing this. I didn't worry about it as much as had I got 1 like I do with my H6 I'd mostly use my AT-8022. Sure I did consider the issue because for run and gunn quick out doors stuff it would be a problem. As is the over censitivity of the XY H6 to wind. Dude those guys can't take wind at all. Shocked me it did that the LS-14 mics can handle more wind.

On 9/2/2019 6:38 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Unfortunately - as good as the LS-100 is - the recorder has its share of problems.
Rule number one with the LS-100 recorder seems to be, "Don't do any outdoor field recording".
Wind gets into this recorder even if the recorder is dressed in a windscreen, that shouldn't happen with a recorder supposedly as good as the LS-100 is.


-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of
Aidan
Sent: Tuesday, 3 September 2019 7:23 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] digital audio recorders: looking for a
specific type

But why did olympus stop the ls100, why did they not make a new model improved? I am worried because they seem to have less models now and the american site is not up rite now. Hope they won't faid away, but even though, they stil didn't get to the level zoom did, and its defnitly wundering why not enough blind people use these? I mean half of them might not even no what fantum power is.

On 9/2/19, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:
Actually as an adendum they being Olympus must've at 1 point
because they did make the DM-4. So maybe they figured it out
even if when the first 3 DS recorders that spoke only did for
what ever ease of use reason they did to start with.

On 9/2/2019 4:40 PM, Hamit Campos via Groups.Io wrote:
Well for general recording it's usable enough. the only real
problems are that 1 no talking so you will need help when menu
diving. Then 2 no beeps music or nothing like the PTRs or
Olympus's so you'll need headphones to know what is armed
what's not and how many tracks are armed. But for grabbing and
going meh once you've gotten the menu diving and track arming out of the way you good. I have 1 and love it.
I got it because it's a 6 channal recorder and it has a
brighter sound than the LS 100. I only meantioned teh 100
because you asked for a "blind friendly" recorder. Sad ain't
it? That there's nothing that's
PTR2 accessible but with XLRs phantum and that is studio grade.
Could it be that it's supposed that blind people either don't
care for studio gear or don't know enough to do so? Sorry if
that offends anyone but 1 does have to wander why there's no
true studio grade blind friendly gear. Remember friends who
knows why the Olympus DS
50 even spoke in the first place. Did olympus know or care
blind people used them? Who even knows.

On 9/2/2019 3:55 PM, Christopher Wright wrote:
How accessible is the h6?

On 9/2/2019 3:50 PM, Aidan wrote:
Yes, just keep in mind that ls100 cannot record from 2 or
more inputs at the same time, only one at a time. Whereas the
zoom h6 can, and to turn each input on/off, is very easy.

On 9/2/19, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:
There use to be, the Olympus LS-100. So if you can find 1 on
EBay or Amazon go for it.

On 9/2/2019 3:29 PM, Christopher Wright wrote:
Hi,

Is there a blind-user-friendly audio recorder that has dual
XLR/1/4″ combo inputs or one XLR input and a 3.5mm input
that goes to a separate channel?

This question was inspired by the following blog post:

https://thepodcastersstudio.com/recording-skype-with-no-mix
er-or
-
software/









Re: digital audio recorders: looking for a specific type

Dane Trethowan <grtdane@...>
 

I don't know anything about the LS-7.
I have an Ls-14 which I also like a lot but it is radically different than the LS-P4 and the LS-100 units I have.
In my opinion the LS-14 is the best built of all the Olympus recorders with a tough plastic body and good rubber feet.
The feet of the LS-P4 are one of the recorders weaknesses and won't last too long.

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
Sent: Monday, 9 September 2019 10:08 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] digital audio recorders: looking for a specific type

Does the P4 look like the LS 7? Which the P2 apparently did. I kinda liked that razer look.

On 9/8/2019 7:53 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Okay you said what I meant to say in my earlier post.
The Olympus LS-P4 isn’t a professional audio recorder and was never intended to be.
If you want a professional audio recorder then you’re better off starting with the Zoom H1N and working your way up from there.
For most audio recording jobs however the Olympus LS-P4 can really shine.
Line-In jobs are a bit of a pain but can be done with the use of an attenuation patch cord.
The other remarkable thing about the LS-P4 is the amount of recording time you can get out of 1 AAA rechargeable battery.
Obviously the higher the sample and bit rate then the more battery power is used but battery life can be improved significantly if you choose to record in MP3 which may be all you need of you’re recording lectures or other voice content.
The Olympus recorders offer plenty of scope for power saving including the turning off or dimming of lights and as some of us have no vision anyway lights are something we don’t really need.


On 9 Sep 2019, at 9:42 am, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

Ah if ya want perfect than 1 must get the 744-T or what ever the new thing is now. Hmmmmmmmmm maybe it's the 788-T. But in any case yeah the points you made are all true and I agree. I also like that zoom wide feature that even the DMs had. It does make the stereo panning wider on your files. I know it adds more floor as Neal pointed out with the P-2 but still an epic feature. The fact they talk makes it so symple to do stuff on the fly.

On 9/8/2019 4:31 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
I like many things about the LS-P4.
First is its size which is of that of a small candy bar.
Yes the menus talk and you can also set the clock however the file listing doesn’t talk though that would be the only thing.
The recorder handles up to 96K/24 Bit sampling and can also record in FLAC as well as the usual MP3 and Wave formats.
The LS-P4 handles Bluetooth so you can stream the audio of the recorder to a set of headphones, speakers and so on.
The recorder isn’t perfect but for less than $200 Australian the Olympus is an absolute bargain for those wanting a handy recorder to record.. well.. just about anything.


On 9 Sep 2019, at 4:16 am, Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:

what is it you particularly like about the ls-p4? does it have menus which talk, etc.

THANKS!

Curtis Delzer
HS
K 6 V F O
Rialto, CA

curtis@...

On 9/2/2019 4:41 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
The problems with wind and the Olympus LS-100 are incredibly bad, you just have to breathe on the machine to hear the noise.
My favourite Olympous recorder by far is the LS-P4, at last Olympus have something which perfectly fits into the recorder range and does everything well except for playing back audio through the internal speabut as people know I've never judged recorders by their dreadful internal speakers anyway.
Its possible in my view that we won't see another Olympus recorder with XLR inputs and Olympus will just cater for the market it knows, the voice recorder and camera market.


-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Hamit
Campos
Sent: Tuesday, 3 September 2019 9:19 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] digital audio recorders: looking for a
specific type

Oh yeah the wind into the buttons thing. I've never felt up an LS-100 but that sounds like there are openings someware whre the wind is going into. I remember Neal mentioning and demoing this. I didn't worry about it as much as had I got 1 like I do with my H6 I'd mostly use my AT-8022. Sure I did consider the issue because for run and gunn quick out doors stuff it would be a problem. As is the over censitivity of the XY H6 to wind. Dude those guys can't take wind at all. Shocked me it did that the LS-14 mics can handle more wind.

On 9/2/2019 6:38 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Unfortunately - as good as the LS-100 is - the recorder has its share of problems.
Rule number one with the LS-100 recorder seems to be, "Don't do any outdoor field recording".
Wind gets into this recorder even if the recorder is dressed in a windscreen, that shouldn't happen with a recorder supposedly as good as the LS-100 is.


-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of
Aidan
Sent: Tuesday, 3 September 2019 7:23 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] digital audio recorders: looking for a
specific type

But why did olympus stop the ls100, why did they not make a new model improved? I am worried because they seem to have less models now and the american site is not up rite now. Hope they won't faid away, but even though, they stil didn't get to the level zoom did, and its defnitly wundering why not enough blind people use these? I mean half of them might not even no what fantum power is.

On 9/2/19, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:
Actually as an adendum they being Olympus must've at 1 point
because they did make the DM-4. So maybe they figured it out
even if when the first 3 DS recorders that spoke only did for
what ever ease of use reason they did to start with.

On 9/2/2019 4:40 PM, Hamit Campos via Groups.Io wrote:
Well for general recording it's usable enough. the only real
problems are that 1 no talking so you will need help when menu
diving. Then 2 no beeps music or nothing like the PTRs or
Olympus's so you'll need headphones to know what is armed
what's not and how many tracks are armed. But for grabbing and
going meh once you've gotten the menu diving and track arming out of the way you good. I have 1 and love it.
I got it because it's a 6 channal recorder and it has a
brighter sound than the LS 100. I only meantioned teh 100
because you asked for a "blind friendly" recorder. Sad ain't
it? That there's nothing that's
PTR2 accessible but with XLRs phantum and that is studio grade.
Could it be that it's supposed that blind people either don't
care for studio gear or don't know enough to do so? Sorry if
that offends anyone but 1 does have to wander why there's no
true studio grade blind friendly gear. Remember friends who
knows why the Olympus DS
50 even spoke in the first place. Did olympus know or care
blind people used them? Who even knows.

On 9/2/2019 3:55 PM, Christopher Wright wrote:
How accessible is the h6?

On 9/2/2019 3:50 PM, Aidan wrote:
Yes, just keep in mind that ls100 cannot record from 2 or
more inputs at the same time, only one at a time. Whereas the
zoom h6 can, and to turn each input on/off, is very easy.

On 9/2/19, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:
There use to be, the Olympus LS-100. So if you can find 1 on
EBay or Amazon go for it.

On 9/2/2019 3:29 PM, Christopher Wright wrote:
Hi,

Is there a blind-user-friendly audio recorder that has dual
XLR/1/4″ combo inputs or one XLR input and a 3.5mm input
that goes to a separate channel?

This question was inspired by the following blog post:

https://thepodcastersstudio.com/recording-skype-with-no-mix
er-or
-
software/









Re: digital audio recorders: looking for a specific type

Hamit Campos
 

Does the P4 look like the LS 7? Which the P2 apparently did. I kinda liked that razer look.

On 9/8/2019 7:53 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Okay you said what I meant to say in my earlier post.
The Olympus LS-P4 isn’t a professional audio recorder and was never intended to be.
If you want a professional audio recorder then you’re better off starting with the Zoom H1N and working your way up from there.
For most audio recording jobs however the Olympus LS-P4 can really shine.
Line-In jobs are a bit of a pain but can be done with the use of an attenuation patch cord.
The other remarkable thing about the LS-P4 is the amount of recording time you can get out of 1 AAA rechargeable battery.
Obviously the higher the sample and bit rate then the more battery power is used but battery life can be improved significantly if you choose to record in MP3 which may be all you need of you’re recording lectures or other voice content.
The Olympus recorders offer plenty of scope for power saving including the turning off or dimming of lights and as some of us have no vision anyway lights are something we don’t really need.


On 9 Sep 2019, at 9:42 am, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

Ah if ya want perfect than 1 must get the 744-T or what ever the new thing is now. Hmmmmmmmmm maybe it's the 788-T. But in any case yeah the points you made are all true and I agree. I also like that zoom wide feature that even the DMs had. It does make the stereo panning wider on your files. I know it adds more floor as Neal pointed out with the P-2 but still an epic feature. The fact they talk makes it so symple to do stuff on the fly.

On 9/8/2019 4:31 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
I like many things about the LS-P4.
First is its size which is of that of a small candy bar.
Yes the menus talk and you can also set the clock however the file listing doesn’t talk though that would be the only thing.
The recorder handles up to 96K/24 Bit sampling and can also record in FLAC as well as the usual MP3 and Wave formats.
The LS-P4 handles Bluetooth so you can stream the audio of the recorder to a set of headphones, speakers and so on.
The recorder isn’t perfect but for less than $200 Australian the Olympus is an absolute bargain for those wanting a handy recorder to record.. well.. just about anything.


On 9 Sep 2019, at 4:16 am, Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:

what is it you particularly like about the ls-p4? does it have menus which talk, etc.

THANKS!

Curtis Delzer
HS
K 6 V F O
Rialto, CA

curtis@...

On 9/2/2019 4:41 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
The problems with wind and the Olympus LS-100 are incredibly bad, you just have to breathe on the machine to hear the noise.
My favourite Olympous recorder by far is the LS-P4, at last Olympus have something which perfectly fits into the recorder range and does everything well except for playing back audio through the internal speabut as people know I've never judged recorders by their dreadful internal speakers anyway.
Its possible in my view that we won't see another Olympus recorder with XLR inputs and Olympus will just cater for the market it knows, the voice recorder and camera market.


-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
Sent: Tuesday, 3 September 2019 9:19 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] digital audio recorders: looking for a specific type

Oh yeah the wind into the buttons thing. I've never felt up an LS-100 but that sounds like there are openings someware whre the wind is going into. I remember Neal mentioning and demoing this. I didn't worry about it as much as had I got 1 like I do with my H6 I'd mostly use my AT-8022. Sure I did consider the issue because for run and gunn quick out doors stuff it would be a problem. As is the over censitivity of the XY H6 to wind. Dude those guys can't take wind at all. Shocked me it did that the LS-14 mics can handle more wind.

On 9/2/2019 6:38 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Unfortunately - as good as the LS-100 is - the recorder has its share of problems.
Rule number one with the LS-100 recorder seems to be, "Don't do any outdoor field recording".
Wind gets into this recorder even if the recorder is dressed in a windscreen, that shouldn't happen with a recorder supposedly as good as the LS-100 is.


-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Aidan
Sent: Tuesday, 3 September 2019 7:23 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] digital audio recorders: looking for a
specific type

But why did olympus stop the ls100, why did they not make a new model improved? I am worried because they seem to have less models now and the american site is not up rite now. Hope they won't faid away, but even though, they stil didn't get to the level zoom did, and its defnitly wundering why not enough blind people use these? I mean half of them might not even no what fantum power is.

On 9/2/19, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:
Actually as an adendum they being Olympus must've at 1 point because
they did make the DM-4. So maybe they figured it out even if when the
first 3 DS recorders that spoke only did for what ever ease of use
reason they did to start with.

On 9/2/2019 4:40 PM, Hamit Campos via Groups.Io wrote:
Well for general recording it's usable enough. the only real
problems are that 1 no talking so you will need help when menu
diving. Then 2 no beeps music or nothing like the PTRs or Olympus's
so you'll need headphones to know what is armed what's not and how
many tracks are armed. But for grabbing and going meh once you've
gotten the menu diving and track arming out of the way you good. I have 1 and love it.
I got it because it's a 6 channal recorder and it has a brighter
sound than the LS 100. I only meantioned teh 100 because you asked
for a "blind friendly" recorder. Sad ain't it? That there's nothing
that's
PTR2 accessible but with XLRs phantum and that is studio grade.
Could it be that it's supposed that blind people either don't care
for studio gear or don't know enough to do so? Sorry if that offends
anyone but 1 does have to wander why there's no true studio grade
blind friendly gear. Remember friends who knows why the Olympus DS
50 even spoke in the first place. Did olympus know or care blind
people used them? Who even knows.

On 9/2/2019 3:55 PM, Christopher Wright wrote:
How accessible is the h6?

On 9/2/2019 3:50 PM, Aidan wrote:
Yes, just keep in mind that ls100 cannot record from 2 or more
inputs at the same time, only one at a time. Whereas the zoom h6
can, and to turn each input on/off, is very easy.

On 9/2/19, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:
There use to be, the Olympus LS-100. So if you can find 1 on EBay
or Amazon go for it.

On 9/2/2019 3:29 PM, Christopher Wright wrote:
Hi,

Is there a blind-user-friendly audio recorder that has dual
XLR/1/4″ combo inputs or one XLR input and a 3.5mm input that
goes to a separate channel?

This question was inspired by the following blog post:

https://thepodcastersstudio.com/recording-skype-with-no-mixer-or
-
software/








Re: digital audio recorders: looking for a specific type

Dane Trethowan <grtdane@...>
 

Okay you said what I meant to say in my earlier post.
The Olympus LS-P4 isn’t a professional audio recorder and was never intended to be.
If you want a professional audio recorder then you’re better off starting with the Zoom H1N and working your way up from there.
For most audio recording jobs however the Olympus LS-P4 can really shine.
Line-In jobs are a bit of a pain but can be done with the use of an attenuation patch cord.
The other remarkable thing about the LS-P4 is the amount of recording time you can get out of 1 AAA rechargeable battery.
Obviously the higher the sample and bit rate then the more battery power is used but battery life can be improved significantly if you choose to record in MP3 which may be all you need of you’re recording lectures or other voice content.
The Olympus recorders offer plenty of scope for power saving including the turning off or dimming of lights and as some of us have no vision anyway lights are something we don’t really need.

On 9 Sep 2019, at 9:42 am, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

Ah if ya want perfect than 1 must get the 744-T or what ever the new thing is now. Hmmmmmmmmm maybe it's the 788-T. But in any case yeah the points you made are all true and I agree. I also like that zoom wide feature that even the DMs had. It does make the stereo panning wider on your files. I know it adds more floor as Neal pointed out with the P-2 but still an epic feature. The fact they talk makes it so symple to do stuff on the fly.

On 9/8/2019 4:31 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
I like many things about the LS-P4.
First is its size which is of that of a small candy bar.
Yes the menus talk and you can also set the clock however the file listing doesn’t talk though that would be the only thing.
The recorder handles up to 96K/24 Bit sampling and can also record in FLAC as well as the usual MP3 and Wave formats.
The LS-P4 handles Bluetooth so you can stream the audio of the recorder to a set of headphones, speakers and so on.
The recorder isn’t perfect but for less than $200 Australian the Olympus is an absolute bargain for those wanting a handy recorder to record.. well.. just about anything.


On 9 Sep 2019, at 4:16 am, Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:

what is it you particularly like about the ls-p4? does it have menus which talk, etc.

THANKS!

Curtis Delzer
HS
K 6 V F O
Rialto, CA

curtis@...

On 9/2/2019 4:41 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
The problems with wind and the Olympus LS-100 are incredibly bad, you just have to breathe on the machine to hear the noise.
My favourite Olympous recorder by far is the LS-P4, at last Olympus have something which perfectly fits into the recorder range and does everything well except for playing back audio through the internal speabut as people know I've never judged recorders by their dreadful internal speakers anyway.
Its possible in my view that we won't see another Olympus recorder with XLR inputs and Olympus will just cater for the market it knows, the voice recorder and camera market.


-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
Sent: Tuesday, 3 September 2019 9:19 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] digital audio recorders: looking for a specific type

Oh yeah the wind into the buttons thing. I've never felt up an LS-100 but that sounds like there are openings someware whre the wind is going into. I remember Neal mentioning and demoing this. I didn't worry about it as much as had I got 1 like I do with my H6 I'd mostly use my AT-8022. Sure I did consider the issue because for run and gunn quick out doors stuff it would be a problem. As is the over censitivity of the XY H6 to wind. Dude those guys can't take wind at all. Shocked me it did that the LS-14 mics can handle more wind.

On 9/2/2019 6:38 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Unfortunately - as good as the LS-100 is - the recorder has its share of problems.
Rule number one with the LS-100 recorder seems to be, "Don't do any outdoor field recording".
Wind gets into this recorder even if the recorder is dressed in a windscreen, that shouldn't happen with a recorder supposedly as good as the LS-100 is.


-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Aidan
Sent: Tuesday, 3 September 2019 7:23 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] digital audio recorders: looking for a
specific type

But why did olympus stop the ls100, why did they not make a new model improved? I am worried because they seem to have less models now and the american site is not up rite now. Hope they won't faid away, but even though, they stil didn't get to the level zoom did, and its defnitly wundering why not enough blind people use these? I mean half of them might not even no what fantum power is.

On 9/2/19, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:
Actually as an adendum they being Olympus must've at 1 point because
they did make the DM-4. So maybe they figured it out even if when the
first 3 DS recorders that spoke only did for what ever ease of use
reason they did to start with.

On 9/2/2019 4:40 PM, Hamit Campos via Groups.Io wrote:
Well for general recording it's usable enough. the only real
problems are that 1 no talking so you will need help when menu
diving. Then 2 no beeps music or nothing like the PTRs or Olympus's
so you'll need headphones to know what is armed what's not and how
many tracks are armed. But for grabbing and going meh once you've
gotten the menu diving and track arming out of the way you good. I have 1 and love it.
I got it because it's a 6 channal recorder and it has a brighter
sound than the LS 100. I only meantioned teh 100 because you asked
for a "blind friendly" recorder. Sad ain't it? That there's nothing
that's
PTR2 accessible but with XLRs phantum and that is studio grade.
Could it be that it's supposed that blind people either don't care
for studio gear or don't know enough to do so? Sorry if that offends
anyone but 1 does have to wander why there's no true studio grade
blind friendly gear. Remember friends who knows why the Olympus DS
50 even spoke in the first place. Did olympus know or care blind
people used them? Who even knows.

On 9/2/2019 3:55 PM, Christopher Wright wrote:
How accessible is the h6?

On 9/2/2019 3:50 PM, Aidan wrote:
Yes, just keep in mind that ls100 cannot record from 2 or more
inputs at the same time, only one at a time. Whereas the zoom h6
can, and to turn each input on/off, is very easy.

On 9/2/19, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:
There use to be, the Olympus LS-100. So if you can find 1 on EBay
or Amazon go for it.

On 9/2/2019 3:29 PM, Christopher Wright wrote:
Hi,

Is there a blind-user-friendly audio recorder that has dual
XLR/1/4″ combo inputs or one XLR input and a 3.5mm input that
goes to a separate channel?

This question was inspired by the following blog post:

https://thepodcastersstudio.com/recording-skype-with-no-mixer-or
-
software/











Re: digital audio recorders: looking for a specific type

Hamit Campos
 

Ah if ya want perfect than 1 must get the 744-T or what ever the new thing is now. Hmmmmmmmmm maybe it's the 788-T. But in any case yeah the points you made are all true and I agree. I also like that zoom wide feature that even the DMs had. It does make the stereo panning wider on your files. I know it adds more floor as Neal pointed out with the P-2 but still an epic feature. The fact they talk makes it so symple to do stuff on the fly.

On 9/8/2019 4:31 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
I like many things about the LS-P4.
First is its size which is of that of a small candy bar.
Yes the menus talk and you can also set the clock however the file listing doesn’t talk though that would be the only thing.
The recorder handles up to 96K/24 Bit sampling and can also record in FLAC as well as the usual MP3 and Wave formats.
The LS-P4 handles Bluetooth so you can stream the audio of the recorder to a set of headphones, speakers and so on.
The recorder isn’t perfect but for less than $200 Australian the Olympus is an absolute bargain for those wanting a handy recorder to record.. well.. just about anything.


On 9 Sep 2019, at 4:16 am, Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:

what is it you particularly like about the ls-p4? does it have menus which talk, etc.

THANKS!

Curtis Delzer
HS
K 6 V F O
Rialto, CA

curtis@...

On 9/2/2019 4:41 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
The problems with wind and the Olympus LS-100 are incredibly bad, you just have to breathe on the machine to hear the noise.
My favourite Olympous recorder by far is the LS-P4, at last Olympus have something which perfectly fits into the recorder range and does everything well except for playing back audio through the internal speabut as people know I've never judged recorders by their dreadful internal speakers anyway.
Its possible in my view that we won't see another Olympus recorder with XLR inputs and Olympus will just cater for the market it knows, the voice recorder and camera market.


-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
Sent: Tuesday, 3 September 2019 9:19 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] digital audio recorders: looking for a specific type

Oh yeah the wind into the buttons thing. I've never felt up an LS-100 but that sounds like there are openings someware whre the wind is going into. I remember Neal mentioning and demoing this. I didn't worry about it as much as had I got 1 like I do with my H6 I'd mostly use my AT-8022. Sure I did consider the issue because for run and gunn quick out doors stuff it would be a problem. As is the over censitivity of the XY H6 to wind. Dude those guys can't take wind at all. Shocked me it did that the LS-14 mics can handle more wind.

On 9/2/2019 6:38 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Unfortunately - as good as the LS-100 is - the recorder has its share of problems.
Rule number one with the LS-100 recorder seems to be, "Don't do any outdoor field recording".
Wind gets into this recorder even if the recorder is dressed in a windscreen, that shouldn't happen with a recorder supposedly as good as the LS-100 is.


-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Aidan
Sent: Tuesday, 3 September 2019 7:23 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] digital audio recorders: looking for a
specific type

But why did olympus stop the ls100, why did they not make a new model improved? I am worried because they seem to have less models now and the american site is not up rite now. Hope they won't faid away, but even though, they stil didn't get to the level zoom did, and its defnitly wundering why not enough blind people use these? I mean half of them might not even no what fantum power is.

On 9/2/19, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:
Actually as an adendum they being Olympus must've at 1 point because
they did make the DM-4. So maybe they figured it out even if when the
first 3 DS recorders that spoke only did for what ever ease of use
reason they did to start with.

On 9/2/2019 4:40 PM, Hamit Campos via Groups.Io wrote:
Well for general recording it's usable enough. the only real
problems are that 1 no talking so you will need help when menu
diving. Then 2 no beeps music or nothing like the PTRs or Olympus's
so you'll need headphones to know what is armed what's not and how
many tracks are armed. But for grabbing and going meh once you've
gotten the menu diving and track arming out of the way you good. I have 1 and love it.
I got it because it's a 6 channal recorder and it has a brighter
sound than the LS 100. I only meantioned teh 100 because you asked
for a "blind friendly" recorder. Sad ain't it? That there's nothing
that's
PTR2 accessible but with XLRs phantum and that is studio grade.
Could it be that it's supposed that blind people either don't care
for studio gear or don't know enough to do so? Sorry if that offends
anyone but 1 does have to wander why there's no true studio grade
blind friendly gear. Remember friends who knows why the Olympus DS
50 even spoke in the first place. Did olympus know or care blind
people used them? Who even knows.

On 9/2/2019 3:55 PM, Christopher Wright wrote:
How accessible is the h6?

On 9/2/2019 3:50 PM, Aidan wrote:
Yes, just keep in mind that ls100 cannot record from 2 or more
inputs at the same time, only one at a time. Whereas the zoom h6
can, and to turn each input on/off, is very easy.

On 9/2/19, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:
There use to be, the Olympus LS-100. So if you can find 1 on EBay
or Amazon go for it.

On 9/2/2019 3:29 PM, Christopher Wright wrote:
Hi,

Is there a blind-user-friendly audio recorder that has dual
XLR/1/4″ combo inputs or one XLR input and a 3.5mm input that
goes to a separate channel?

This question was inspired by the following blog post:

https://thepodcastersstudio.com/recording-skype-with-no-mixer-or
-
software/









Re: digital audio recorders: looking for a specific type

Dane Trethowan <grtdane@...>
 

I like many things about the LS-P4.
First is its size which is of that of a small candy bar.
Yes the menus talk and you can also set the clock however the file listing doesn’t talk though that would be the only thing.
The recorder handles up to 96K/24 Bit sampling and can also record in FLAC as well as the usual MP3 and Wave formats.
The LS-P4 handles Bluetooth so you can stream the audio of the recorder to a set of headphones, speakers and so on.
The recorder isn’t perfect but for less than $200 Australian the Olympus is an absolute bargain for those wanting a handy recorder to record.. well.. just about anything.

On 9 Sep 2019, at 4:16 am, Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:

what is it you particularly like about the ls-p4? does it have menus which talk, etc.

THANKS!

Curtis Delzer
HS
K 6 V F O
Rialto, CA

curtis@...

On 9/2/2019 4:41 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
The problems with wind and the Olympus LS-100 are incredibly bad, you just have to breathe on the machine to hear the noise.
My favourite Olympous recorder by far is the LS-P4, at last Olympus have something which perfectly fits into the recorder range and does everything well except for playing back audio through the internal speabut as people know I've never judged recorders by their dreadful internal speakers anyway.
Its possible in my view that we won't see another Olympus recorder with XLR inputs and Olympus will just cater for the market it knows, the voice recorder and camera market.


-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
Sent: Tuesday, 3 September 2019 9:19 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] digital audio recorders: looking for a specific type

Oh yeah the wind into the buttons thing. I've never felt up an LS-100 but that sounds like there are openings someware whre the wind is going into. I remember Neal mentioning and demoing this. I didn't worry about it as much as had I got 1 like I do with my H6 I'd mostly use my AT-8022. Sure I did consider the issue because for run and gunn quick out doors stuff it would be a problem. As is the over censitivity of the XY H6 to wind. Dude those guys can't take wind at all. Shocked me it did that the LS-14 mics can handle more wind.

On 9/2/2019 6:38 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Unfortunately - as good as the LS-100 is - the recorder has its share of problems.
Rule number one with the LS-100 recorder seems to be, "Don't do any outdoor field recording".
Wind gets into this recorder even if the recorder is dressed in a windscreen, that shouldn't happen with a recorder supposedly as good as the LS-100 is.


-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Aidan
Sent: Tuesday, 3 September 2019 7:23 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] digital audio recorders: looking for a
specific type

But why did olympus stop the ls100, why did they not make a new model improved? I am worried because they seem to have less models now and the american site is not up rite now. Hope they won't faid away, but even though, they stil didn't get to the level zoom did, and its defnitly wundering why not enough blind people use these? I mean half of them might not even no what fantum power is.

On 9/2/19, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:
Actually as an adendum they being Olympus must've at 1 point because
they did make the DM-4. So maybe they figured it out even if when the
first 3 DS recorders that spoke only did for what ever ease of use
reason they did to start with.

On 9/2/2019 4:40 PM, Hamit Campos via Groups.Io wrote:
Well for general recording it's usable enough. the only real
problems are that 1 no talking so you will need help when menu
diving. Then 2 no beeps music or nothing like the PTRs or Olympus's
so you'll need headphones to know what is armed what's not and how
many tracks are armed. But for grabbing and going meh once you've
gotten the menu diving and track arming out of the way you good. I have 1 and love it.
I got it because it's a 6 channal recorder and it has a brighter
sound than the LS 100. I only meantioned teh 100 because you asked
for a "blind friendly" recorder. Sad ain't it? That there's nothing
that's
PTR2 accessible but with XLRs phantum and that is studio grade.
Could it be that it's supposed that blind people either don't care
for studio gear or don't know enough to do so? Sorry if that offends
anyone but 1 does have to wander why there's no true studio grade
blind friendly gear. Remember friends who knows why the Olympus DS
50 even spoke in the first place. Did olympus know or care blind
people used them? Who even knows.

On 9/2/2019 3:55 PM, Christopher Wright wrote:
How accessible is the h6?

On 9/2/2019 3:50 PM, Aidan wrote:
Yes, just keep in mind that ls100 cannot record from 2 or more
inputs at the same time, only one at a time. Whereas the zoom h6
can, and to turn each input on/off, is very easy.

On 9/2/19, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:
There use to be, the Olympus LS-100. So if you can find 1 on EBay
or Amazon go for it.

On 9/2/2019 3:29 PM, Christopher Wright wrote:
Hi,

Is there a blind-user-friendly audio recorder that has dual
XLR/1/4″ combo inputs or one XLR input and a 3.5mm input that
goes to a separate channel?

This question was inspired by the following blog post:

https://thepodcastersstudio.com/recording-skype-with-no-mixer-or
-
software/