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Re: A Question About Simulating An Ambience

Brian Olesen
 

Hi,
I think I remember there were a few in the package itself, but you can find plenty of them on the Net.
It's a little tricky to set it up.
Brian

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Emne: Re: [all-audio] A Question About Simulating An Ambience

Brian,
Depending on how authentic you want it you could use impulses for the perfectly right venue.
This was my first thought :) but how can I find these impulses?

Thanks for your answer!

Cheers,
Marcio <https://tinyurl.com/TlkTM>
AKA /Starboy/


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Re: A Question About Simulating An Ambience

 

Georgina,
So you would use a reverb and EQ on the audio.
Sounds good. I will try that. Thanks for the idea!

I believe SF to be a destructive audio editor so make sure you have plenty of backups.
I do, I never work with the original file of a recording :)

Thanks a lot for your suggestions!

Cheers,
Marcio <https://tinyurl.com/TlkTM>
AKA /Starboy/


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Re: A Question About Simulating An Ambience

 

Brian,
Depending on how authentic you want it you could use impulses for the perfectly right venue.
This was my first thought :) but how can I find these impulses?

Thanks for your answer!

Cheers,
Marcio <https://tinyurl.com/TlkTM>
AKA /Starboy/


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Re: A Question About Simulating An Ambience

Georgina Joyce
 

Hello,

I don’t know SF but I see you can add FX to audio in SF. So you would use a reverb and EQ on the audio. I believe SF to be a destructive audio editor so make sure you have plenty of backups.

Regards,

Gena
On 28 Aug 2019, at 12:51, Marcio via Groups.Io <marcinhorj21=yahoo.com.br@groups.io> wrote:

Hi,
While this question is very, very specific, hopefully I will get at least a reply :)

Would anyone know, using Sound Forge, how could I simulate that effect like that voice we can hear in airportsor where an announcer speaks something on these microphones?

Thanks a lot.

Cheers,
Marcio <https://tinyurl.com/TlkTM>
AKA /Starboy/


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Re: A Question About Simulating An Ambience

Brian Olesen
 

Hi,
Marcio. Depending on how authentic you want it you could use impulses for the perfectly right venue.
On the other hand you could also just use a very long large hall and then for the audencity of it keep your microphone very close to your mouth while speking into it.

Brian

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Emne: [all-audio] A Question About Simulating An Ambience

Hi,
While this question is very, very specific, hopefully I will get at least a reply :)

Would anyone know, using Sound Forge, how could I simulate that effect like that voice we can hear in airportsor where an announcer speaks something on these microphones?

Thanks a lot.

Cheers,
Marcio <https://tinyurl.com/TlkTM>
AKA /Starboy/


Sent from a galaxy far, far away.

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A Question About Simulating An Ambience

 

Hi,
While this question is very, very specific, hopefully I will get at least a reply :)

Would anyone know, using Sound Forge, how could I simulate that effect like that voice we can hear in airportsor where an announcer speaks something on these microphones?

Thanks a lot.

Cheers,
Marcio <https://tinyurl.com/TlkTM>
AKA /Starboy/


Sent from a galaxy far, far away.

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Clever Radios

Dane Trethowan <grtdane@...>
 

Hi,
I now have a Tecsun PL365 radio which is rather unique in several ways.
Looking at the radio at first glance you could be forgiven for thinking the radio was a cordless phone handset, that’s the type of design we’re looking at with the Tecsun PL365 but just because the radio is small doesn’t limit the radio in capabilities.
Packed inside this little beauty is a fully fledged communications receiver without some of the functionality admitedly of its bigger Brothers and Cousins but functional, useable and practical nevertheless.
Performance is good across all bands and tis is amazing given the size of the radio.
Again not to the standard of the big boys but good enough for most situations.
The radio has a 40CM long telescopic whip antenna aerial for FM and SW.
A built-in ferrite rod is used for AM however the radio does come with an extension antenna socket for AM and takes full use of this with the supplied AM plug-in ferrite antenna.
This arrangement provides some great advantages over conventional ferrite antenna arrangements, the main being that the antenna can be “Homed” into the direction of the station you’re trying to receive.
The external Ferrite bar is only 3 inches long so don’t expect miracles from this antenna but its pretty good and adds directionality to the radio when receiving AM.
The external AM antenna jack means of course that bigger antenna units can be used such as a dedicated outdoor AM antenna or Tecsun’s own desktop tuneable loop antenna which plugs straight in.
Radio listeners will be pleased to know that the PL365 boasts a very nice SSB mode tuneable down to 10HZ which means that SSB reception of voice communications can be tuned to sound incredibly natural
As we’re talking SSB I think it time to mention the Shortwave coverage of the PL365 which goes all the way up to 30MHZ
Again performance on Shortwave is surprisingly good given the radio has such a short telescopic whip to work with, here’s to the benefits of DSP and SDR Radio yet again <smile>.
The radio has 500 memories though I’ve not got to the point of using those yet.
One function I’m looking forward to trying is the “Easy Tune” function.
The “Easy Tune” function is very similar to those auto scan functions you find on modern-day radio sets but the main difference being that “Easy Tune” puts the strongest signals it finds into a dedicated bank of temporary “Easy Tune” memory locations.
You can browse through these locations and transfer the stations stored there to permanent memory locations, a very similar arrangement is found on Radio Scanners.
The PL365 comes with a set of earbuds which sound perfectly reasonable and the radio receives FM stereo.
Buttons on the radio are about the size of match heads except for the power button which is big and rectangular in size.
The radio has no keypad, obviously the designers went with the idea of putting as much as is possible into memory and using the tuning thumb wheel to browse memory locations.
There is a micro USB port on the side of the radio though I haven’t been able to work out what this is for yet.
I’m powering the radio with 3 AA batteries which are stored in the bottom of the unit.
Speaker sounds a little tinny reminding me of the early transistor radio sets I had as a child, still perfectly listenable all the same and even better when using the supplied earbuds.
I bought my PL365 from Tecsun Radios Australia for $100 Australian so an absolute bargain.

Bose Home Speaker 500

Colin Phelan
 

Hi All,

Does anyone have one of the above. I love the style and sound of the unit
and that meets my purpose.

My concern is it appears to have a touch screen only and I would be
interested in whether a few bump ons or similar can address this and make
the functionality accessible.

Thanks for any thoughts

Colin

Re: for a sighted user

Dane Trethowan <grtdane@...>
 

Take a look at Plex Media Server.
It will organise all the media on a computer and you can access this through your TV and sound system, Smart Phone etc so its all in the one package.
If you wish to go further then you can with a Plex Pass which allows further integration of media into your system along with the recording and organising of TV, the integration of online TV, Podcasts, Music etc.
I’ve been using Plex here since the beginning of the year and there’s no turning back now whether you be a novice user or a power tech user.

On 25 Aug 2019, at 3:12 pm, Howard Traxler <howard@...> wrote:

Hi folks,

I would like to set up a system that my wife could use---with no computer knowledge. I have computers with assorted operating systems and external drives /music folders, and input (audio) to her TV and stereo system. Is there a software package that she could use to make our music play into her tv and sound system?


Thank you much.


Howard



for a sighted user

Howard Traxler <howard@...>
 

Hi folks,

I would like to set up a system that my wife could use---with no computer knowledge.  I have computers with assorted operating systems and external drives /music folders, and input (audio) to her TV and stereo system.  Is there a software package that she could use  to make our music play into her tv and sound system?


Thank you much.


Howard

Sangean PR-d17 radio

Dane Trethowan <grtdane@...>
 

Hi,
Anyone been able to acquire one of these yet?
If you haven’t then I’m not at all surprised as there seems to be a shortage of the units at this time.
Universal Radio had had a dozen on the shelves and they went like hot cakes so now I have one of these radios on back order.

Re: Sangean PR-D17 AM/FM Radio for the Visually Impaired

Dane Trethowan <grtdane@...>
 

So it seems yes and there are plenty worse out there.

On 18 Aug 2019, at 7:33 am, Gary Schindler <garys5462@...> wrote:

It isn't a bad radio. The sensitivity is quite good.


I have a Marc 3 which is half the price of the Hd-R16 and it has an edge on FM sensitivity and it fits in your over sized pants pocket.


On 8/17/2019 5:16 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
No, I don’t have a HDR16 but I do know someone who does and he has demonstrated it often enough to me both via FaceTime and with recordings captured directly from it.
No point me getting a HDR16 as we don’t have HD radio in Australia but Tom would be the first to agree with you that the AM of the HDR16 could b e improved.
The AM of the PR-d17 is improved of that of the HDR16 however the PDR-17 doesn’t have facilities to receive HD AM or FM.


On 18 Aug 2019, at 6:39 am, Gary Schindler <garys5462@...> wrote:

You have the Hd-R16 like I do! The AM could be improved..

On 8/17/2019 2:08 PM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
Dane: I understand what you're saying in regard to how what you hear over
the air is different than what you hear over the internet! Not all stations
are this way; WSM (in Nashville, Tennessee U.S.A.) as much as I've been able
to determine, is exactly the same on the internet as it is if you listen to
AM 650! But yes...there is something kind of special (and I can't explain
it) but if you can get a far-off station to come in good on a bonified radio
that is kind of unique! Having said that, I do enjoy being able to listen
to a station that is out of my area without having to contend with the
station fading out! I still can remember how it used to be, trying to
listen to the Grand Ole Opry back in the day; a song would be playing
and...just at the part where maybe a good instrumental solo was coming up,
WSM would start fading away to the point where you couldn't really hear it!
Of course nowadays, every now and again, you do get a situation where (if
you're listening on your computer or smart speaker) the connection drops;
this is also a pain! Fortunately (at least in my case) this doesn't happen
all that often! In regard to this San Gian radio: I might be tempted to
check it out further if it had the capability to get HD! I bought a San
Gian radio a couple of years ago (don't remember the exact model number) is
a nice radio and does get HD, but isn't quite as good as I thought it was
going to be! While it has wonderful selectivity, to me it tends to be a
little noisy on AM! On FM, if a station isn't really that close, sometimes
the stations will sound fuzzy or sort of like it is "miss tuned!"
Tom Kaufman

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Trethowan
Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2019 1:31 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Sangean PR-D17 AM/FM Radio for the Visually
Impaired

A couple of things here.
Often these days - particularly it seems with broadcasters from the US - the
Internet Streams and free-to-air broadcasting are two completely different
things.
Listen to say KNX or WINS and what you get over the Internet is quite
different than what you'll hear from the Medium-Wave transmitter.
Next - as a DX Listener - I find Internet radio to be rather an insult.
That is anyone can listen to Internet streams and that's convenient without
a doubt.
But their can be no doubt that the fun and the challenge from a DXer's point
of view is to be able to listen to that far off station and furthermore be
able to report the fact - in both written detail and literal sound - to the
station itself.
I have managed to listen to KNX in the US from Australia a number of times
on the radio long before Internet was even thought of for this sort of
thing.


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Sent: Sunday, 18 August 2019 2:57 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Sangean PR-D17 AM/FM Radio for the Visually
Impaired

I have few to none problems listening to radio worldwide on my smartspeaker.
It is also a fraction of the cost of an intrnet or standard radio.

On Sat, 17 Aug 2019, Dane Trethowan wrote:

That's the theory about Smart Speakers yes however they don't always
do what you tell them to do.


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From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of -
Sent: Friday, 16 August 2019 11:07 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Sangean PR-D17 AM/FM Radio for the Visually
Impaired


Even internet radios have been passed by. Smart speakers will stream
all internet radio sources, including those worldwide, all by voice
command.
And they have many other sources of audio info including thousands of
podcasts and the cable and other news sources.

On Thu, 15 Aug 2019, Gary Schindler wrote:

That is why Sangean should concentrate on designing an internet
radio with
talking menus.
Once you have used a Sangean radio you get familiar with the
nomenclature and how to operate them and to me there isn't much
advantage
to having one of these!
It is commendable that Sangean does for now build something with
accessibility in mind.
On 8/15/2019 2:46 PM, Anders Holmberg wrote:
Hi! Actually not want to disrespect people here but i don???t get
the Am/fm radio thing anymore. I have a harman/kardon receiver
here but i very very seldom use the radio in that receiver. Maybe
i am boring or stupid or something but why not just listen via
internet.
/A

13 aug. 2019 kl. 22:54 skrev Dane Trethowan
<grtdane@...>:
Now this radio may be well worthwhile grabbing.

https://radiojayallen.com/sangean-pr-d7-am-fm-radio-for-the-visua
ll
y-impaire d/





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XB









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Re: Sangean PR-D17 AM/FM Radio for the Visually Impaired

Dane Trethowan <grtdane@...>
 

I had planned to set up a Network SDR receiver on some farm land the family owned.
Unfortunately this land has been sold so I’m looking at setting up my SDR in the shed at the back of my residence.
The setup has its own challenges when it comes to illuminating noise.
Firstly I will have to track down and replace every switch mode power supply in my house.
The next thing to be done is to establish independent earthing points for the SDR Radio and associated equipment.
The replacement of supplies is probably the hardest thing needing to be done.
As far as earthing goes? Well I can easily drive some earthing pegs into the ground in my backyard for that.
The farm would have been the best option though there I was having a couple of difficulties with the setup.
The first major problem was keeping batteries charged for the operation of the system given mains power was not an option.
I couldn’t find solar panels with a voltage low enough for my needs.
Internet wasn’t a problem as there was mobile coverage there and I could have easily used that given the SDR doesn’t require that much data and data flow can be controlled.
So now everyone knows the status of my SDR journey and I did plan to send the list an eMail about this at some stage given plenty of people have asked me how I was going with the project.

On 18 Aug 2019, at 7:26 am, Gary Schindler <garys5462@...> wrote:

That is when AM radio is the best! There is always lots of leakage from the power grid.


On 8/17/2019 5:13 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Point taken.
I have just returned to the land of the living if you like after deliberately turning my power off for almost an hour to DX before the sun rises and even then the noise from other sources was still noticeablenoticible I must be the only person the world over who wishes for a neighbourhood power blackout for a few hours from time-to-time.


On 18 Aug 2019, at 6:34 am, Gary Schindler <garys5462@...> wrote:

Amazon has it too!


With all the cell towers and computer noise in general you can't DX any more like you used to in the states.


On 8/17/2019 1:37 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
If anyone would like to buy in the US then you will find it at Universal Radio
https://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/spcialty/0417.html


-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Casey
Sent: Sunday, 18 August 2019 3:25 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Sangean PR-D17 AM/FM Radio for the Visually Impaired

Hi does anyone have this radio yet?

If so how is the sound on A.M and is the F.M reception as good as the say it is and what about on A.M also can you set the alarm so that you could wake up to the radio as well?



On 8/17/2019 11:57 AM, - wrote:
I have few to none problems listening to radio worldwide on my smartspeaker. It is also a fraction of the cost of an intrnet or standard radio.

On Sat, 17 Aug 2019, Dane Trethowan wrote:

That's the theory about Smart Speakers yes however they don't always
do what you tell them to do.


-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of -
Sent: Friday, 16 August 2019 11:07 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Sangean PR-D17 AM/FM Radio for the Visually
Impaired


Even internet radios have been passed by. Smart speakers will stream
all internet radio sources, including those worldwide, all by voice command.

And they have many other sources of audio info including thousands of
podcasts and the cable and other news sources.

On Thu, 15 Aug 2019, Gary Schindler wrote:

That is why Sangean should concentrate on designing an internet
radio with
talking menus.
Once you have used a Sangean radio you get familiar with the
nomenclature and how to operate them and to me there isn't much
advantage
to having one of these!
It is commendable that Sangean does for now build something with
accessibility in mind.
On 8/15/2019 2:46 PM, Anders Holmberg wrote:
Hi! Actually not want to disrespect people here but i don???t get
the Am/fm radio thing anymore. I have a harman/kardon receiver here
but i very very seldom use the radio in that receiver. Maybe i am
boring or stupid or something but why not just listen via internet.
/A

13 aug. 2019 kl. 22:54 skrev Dane Trethowan <grtdane@...>:

Now this radio may be well worthwhile grabbing.

https://radiojayallen.com/sangean-pr-d7-am-fm-radio-for-the-visual
l
y-impaire d/





-- XB







--
Gary G. Schindler


--
Gary G. Schindler


Re: Sangean PR-D17 AM/FM Radio for the Visually Impaired

Gary Schindler
 

It isn't a bad radio. The sensitivity is quite good.


I have a Marc 3 which is half the price of the Hd-R16 and it has an edge on FM sensitivity and it fits in your over sized pants pocket.

On 8/17/2019 5:16 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
No, I don’t have a HDR16 but I do know someone who does and he has demonstrated it often enough to me both via FaceTime and with recordings captured directly from it.
No point me getting a HDR16 as we don’t have HD radio in Australia but Tom would be the first to agree with you that the AM of the HDR16 could b e improved.
The AM of the PR-d17 is improved of that of the HDR16 however the PDR-17 doesn’t have facilities to receive HD AM or FM.


On 18 Aug 2019, at 6:39 am, Gary Schindler <garys5462@...> wrote:

You have the Hd-R16 like I do! The AM could be improved..

On 8/17/2019 2:08 PM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
Dane: I understand what you're saying in regard to how what you hear over
the air is different than what you hear over the internet! Not all stations
are this way; WSM (in Nashville, Tennessee U.S.A.) as much as I've been able
to determine, is exactly the same on the internet as it is if you listen to
AM 650! But yes...there is something kind of special (and I can't explain
it) but if you can get a far-off station to come in good on a bonified radio
that is kind of unique! Having said that, I do enjoy being able to listen
to a station that is out of my area without having to contend with the
station fading out! I still can remember how it used to be, trying to
listen to the Grand Ole Opry back in the day; a song would be playing
and...just at the part where maybe a good instrumental solo was coming up,
WSM would start fading away to the point where you couldn't really hear it!
Of course nowadays, every now and again, you do get a situation where (if
you're listening on your computer or smart speaker) the connection drops;
this is also a pain! Fortunately (at least in my case) this doesn't happen
all that often! In regard to this San Gian radio: I might be tempted to
check it out further if it had the capability to get HD! I bought a San
Gian radio a couple of years ago (don't remember the exact model number) is
a nice radio and does get HD, but isn't quite as good as I thought it was
going to be! While it has wonderful selectivity, to me it tends to be a
little noisy on AM! On FM, if a station isn't really that close, sometimes
the stations will sound fuzzy or sort of like it is "miss tuned!"
Tom Kaufman

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Dane
Trethowan
Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2019 1:31 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Sangean PR-D17 AM/FM Radio for the Visually
Impaired

A couple of things here.
Often these days - particularly it seems with broadcasters from the US - the
Internet Streams and free-to-air broadcasting are two completely different
things.
Listen to say KNX or WINS and what you get over the Internet is quite
different than what you'll hear from the Medium-Wave transmitter.
Next - as a DX Listener - I find Internet radio to be rather an insult.
That is anyone can listen to Internet streams and that's convenient without
a doubt.
But their can be no doubt that the fun and the challenge from a DXer's point
of view is to be able to listen to that far off station and furthermore be
able to report the fact - in both written detail and literal sound - to the
station itself.
I have managed to listen to KNX in the US from Australia a number of times
on the radio long before Internet was even thought of for this sort of
thing.


-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of -
Sent: Sunday, 18 August 2019 2:57 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Sangean PR-D17 AM/FM Radio for the Visually
Impaired

I have few to none problems listening to radio worldwide on my smartspeaker.
It is also a fraction of the cost of an intrnet or standard radio.

On Sat, 17 Aug 2019, Dane Trethowan wrote:

That's the theory about Smart Speakers yes however they don't always
do what you tell them to do.


-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of -
Sent: Friday, 16 August 2019 11:07 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Sangean PR-D17 AM/FM Radio for the Visually
Impaired


Even internet radios have been passed by. Smart speakers will stream
all internet radio sources, including those worldwide, all by voice
command.
And they have many other sources of audio info including thousands of
podcasts and the cable and other news sources.

On Thu, 15 Aug 2019, Gary Schindler wrote:

That is why Sangean should concentrate on designing an internet
radio with
talking menus.
Once you have used a Sangean radio you get familiar with the
nomenclature and how to operate them and to me there isn't much
advantage
to having one of these!
It is commendable that Sangean does for now build something with
accessibility in mind.
On 8/15/2019 2:46 PM, Anders Holmberg wrote:
Hi! Actually not want to disrespect people here but i don???t get
the Am/fm radio thing anymore. I have a harman/kardon receiver
here but i very very seldom use the radio in that receiver. Maybe
i am boring or stupid or something but why not just listen via
internet.
/A

13 aug. 2019 kl. 22:54 skrev Dane Trethowan
<grtdane@...>:
Now this radio may be well worthwhile grabbing.

https://radiojayallen.com/sangean-pr-d7-am-fm-radio-for-the-visua
ll
y-impaire d/





-- XB







--
XB









--
Gary G. Schindler


--
Gary G. Schindler

Re: Sangean PR-D17 AM/FM Radio for the Visually Impaired

Gary Schindler
 

That is when AM radio is the best! There is always lots of leakage from the power grid.

On 8/17/2019 5:13 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Point taken.
I have just returned to the land of the living if you like after deliberately turning my power off for almost an hour to DX before the sun rises and even then the noise from other sources was still noticeablenoticible I must be the only person the world over who wishes for a neighbourhood power blackout for a few hours from time-to-time.


On 18 Aug 2019, at 6:34 am, Gary Schindler <garys5462@...> wrote:

Amazon has it too!


With all the cell towers and computer noise in general you can't DX any more like you used to in the states.


On 8/17/2019 1:37 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
If anyone would like to buy in the US then you will find it at Universal Radio
https://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/spcialty/0417.html


-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Casey
Sent: Sunday, 18 August 2019 3:25 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Sangean PR-D17 AM/FM Radio for the Visually Impaired

Hi does anyone have this radio yet?

If so how is the sound on A.M and is the F.M reception as good as the say it is and what about on A.M also can you set the alarm so that you could wake up to the radio as well?



On 8/17/2019 11:57 AM, - wrote:
I have few to none problems listening to radio worldwide on my smartspeaker. It is also a fraction of the cost of an intrnet or standard radio.

On Sat, 17 Aug 2019, Dane Trethowan wrote:

That's the theory about Smart Speakers yes however they don't always
do what you tell them to do.


-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of -
Sent: Friday, 16 August 2019 11:07 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Sangean PR-D17 AM/FM Radio for the Visually
Impaired


Even internet radios have been passed by. Smart speakers will stream
all internet radio sources, including those worldwide, all by voice command.

And they have many other sources of audio info including thousands of
podcasts and the cable and other news sources.

On Thu, 15 Aug 2019, Gary Schindler wrote:

That is why Sangean should concentrate on designing an internet
radio with
talking menus.
Once you have used a Sangean radio you get familiar with the
nomenclature and how to operate them and to me there isn't much
advantage
to having one of these!
It is commendable that Sangean does for now build something with
accessibility in mind.
On 8/15/2019 2:46 PM, Anders Holmberg wrote:
Hi! Actually not want to disrespect people here but i don???t get
the Am/fm radio thing anymore. I have a harman/kardon receiver here
but i very very seldom use the radio in that receiver. Maybe i am
boring or stupid or something but why not just listen via internet.
/A

13 aug. 2019 kl. 22:54 skrev Dane Trethowan <grtdane@...>:

Now this radio may be well worthwhile grabbing.

https://radiojayallen.com/sangean-pr-d7-am-fm-radio-for-the-visual
l
y-impaire d/





-- XB







--
Gary G. Schindler


--
Gary G. Schindler

Re: Sangean PR-D17 AM/FM Radio for the Visually Impaired

Dane Trethowan <grtdane@...>
 

No, I don’t have a HDR16 but I do know someone who does and he has demonstrated it often enough to me both via FaceTime and with recordings captured directly from it.
No point me getting a HDR16 as we don’t have HD radio in Australia but Tom would be the first to agree with you that the AM of the HDR16 could b e improved.
The AM of the PR-d17 is improved of that of the HDR16 however the PDR-17 doesn’t have facilities to receive HD AM or FM.

On 18 Aug 2019, at 6:39 am, Gary Schindler <garys5462@...> wrote:

You have the Hd-R16 like I do! The AM could be improved..

On 8/17/2019 2:08 PM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
Dane: I understand what you're saying in regard to how what you hear over
the air is different than what you hear over the internet! Not all stations
are this way; WSM (in Nashville, Tennessee U.S.A.) as much as I've been able
to determine, is exactly the same on the internet as it is if you listen to
AM 650! But yes...there is something kind of special (and I can't explain
it) but if you can get a far-off station to come in good on a bonified radio
that is kind of unique! Having said that, I do enjoy being able to listen
to a station that is out of my area without having to contend with the
station fading out! I still can remember how it used to be, trying to
listen to the Grand Ole Opry back in the day; a song would be playing
and...just at the part where maybe a good instrumental solo was coming up,
WSM would start fading away to the point where you couldn't really hear it!
Of course nowadays, every now and again, you do get a situation where (if
you're listening on your computer or smart speaker) the connection drops;
this is also a pain! Fortunately (at least in my case) this doesn't happen
all that often! In regard to this San Gian radio: I might be tempted to
check it out further if it had the capability to get HD! I bought a San
Gian radio a couple of years ago (don't remember the exact model number) is
a nice radio and does get HD, but isn't quite as good as I thought it was
going to be! While it has wonderful selectivity, to me it tends to be a
little noisy on AM! On FM, if a station isn't really that close, sometimes
the stations will sound fuzzy or sort of like it is "miss tuned!"
Tom Kaufman

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Dane
Trethowan
Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2019 1:31 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Sangean PR-D17 AM/FM Radio for the Visually
Impaired

A couple of things here.
Often these days - particularly it seems with broadcasters from the US - the
Internet Streams and free-to-air broadcasting are two completely different
things.
Listen to say KNX or WINS and what you get over the Internet is quite
different than what you'll hear from the Medium-Wave transmitter.
Next - as a DX Listener - I find Internet radio to be rather an insult.
That is anyone can listen to Internet streams and that's convenient without
a doubt.
But their can be no doubt that the fun and the challenge from a DXer's point
of view is to be able to listen to that far off station and furthermore be
able to report the fact - in both written detail and literal sound - to the
station itself.
I have managed to listen to KNX in the US from Australia a number of times
on the radio long before Internet was even thought of for this sort of
thing.


-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of -
Sent: Sunday, 18 August 2019 2:57 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Sangean PR-D17 AM/FM Radio for the Visually
Impaired

I have few to none problems listening to radio worldwide on my smartspeaker.
It is also a fraction of the cost of an intrnet or standard radio.

On Sat, 17 Aug 2019, Dane Trethowan wrote:

That's the theory about Smart Speakers yes however they don't always
do what you tell them to do.


-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of -
Sent: Friday, 16 August 2019 11:07 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Sangean PR-D17 AM/FM Radio for the Visually
Impaired


Even internet radios have been passed by. Smart speakers will stream
all internet radio sources, including those worldwide, all by voice
command.
And they have many other sources of audio info including thousands of
podcasts and the cable and other news sources.

On Thu, 15 Aug 2019, Gary Schindler wrote:

That is why Sangean should concentrate on designing an internet
radio with
talking menus.

Once you have used a Sangean radio you get familiar with the
nomenclature and how to operate them and to me there isn't much
advantage
to having one of these!

It is commendable that Sangean does for now build something with
accessibility in mind.

On 8/15/2019 2:46 PM, Anders Holmberg wrote:
Hi! Actually not want to disrespect people here but i don???t get
the Am/fm radio thing anymore. I have a harman/kardon receiver
here but i very very seldom use the radio in that receiver. Maybe
i am boring or stupid or something but why not just listen via
internet.
/A

13 aug. 2019 kl. 22:54 skrev Dane Trethowan
<grtdane@...>:
Now this radio may be well worthwhile grabbing.

https://radiojayallen.com/sangean-pr-d7-am-fm-radio-for-the-visua
ll
y-impaire d/





-- XB







--
XB









--
Gary G. Schindler


Re: Sangean PR-D17 AM/FM Radio for the Visually Impaired

Dane Trethowan <grtdane@...>
 

Point taken.
I have just returned to the land of the living if you like after deliberately turning my power off for almost an hour to DX before the sun rises and even then the noise from other sources was still noticeablenoticible I must be the only person the world over who wishes for a neighbourhood power blackout for a few hours from time-to-time.

On 18 Aug 2019, at 6:34 am, Gary Schindler <garys5462@...> wrote:

Amazon has it too!


With all the cell towers and computer noise in general you can't DX any more like you used to in the states.


On 8/17/2019 1:37 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
If anyone would like to buy in the US then you will find it at Universal Radio
https://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/spcialty/0417.html


-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Casey
Sent: Sunday, 18 August 2019 3:25 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Sangean PR-D17 AM/FM Radio for the Visually Impaired

Hi does anyone have this radio yet?

If so how is the sound on A.M and is the F.M reception as good as the say it is and what about on A.M also can you set the alarm so that you could wake up to the radio as well?



On 8/17/2019 11:57 AM, - wrote:
I have few to none problems listening to radio worldwide on my smartspeaker. It is also a fraction of the cost of an intrnet or standard radio.

On Sat, 17 Aug 2019, Dane Trethowan wrote:

That's the theory about Smart Speakers yes however they don't always
do what you tell them to do.


-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of -
Sent: Friday, 16 August 2019 11:07 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Sangean PR-D17 AM/FM Radio for the Visually
Impaired


Even internet radios have been passed by. Smart speakers will stream
all internet radio sources, including those worldwide, all by voice command.

And they have many other sources of audio info including thousands of
podcasts and the cable and other news sources.

On Thu, 15 Aug 2019, Gary Schindler wrote:

That is why Sangean should concentrate on designing an internet
radio with
talking menus.
Once you have used a Sangean radio you get familiar with the
nomenclature and how to operate them and to me there isn't much
advantage
to having one of these!
It is commendable that Sangean does for now build something with
accessibility in mind.
On 8/15/2019 2:46 PM, Anders Holmberg wrote:
Hi! Actually not want to disrespect people here but i don???t get
the Am/fm radio thing anymore. I have a harman/kardon receiver here
but i very very seldom use the radio in that receiver. Maybe i am
boring or stupid or something but why not just listen via internet.
/A

13 aug. 2019 kl. 22:54 skrev Dane Trethowan <grtdane@...>:

Now this radio may be well worthwhile grabbing.

https://radiojayallen.com/sangean-pr-d7-am-fm-radio-for-the-visual
l
y-impaire d/





-- XB







--
Gary G. Schindler


Re: Sangean PR-D17 AM/FM Radio for the Visually Impaired

Gary Schindler
 

You have the Hd-R16 like I do! The AM could be improved..

On 8/17/2019 2:08 PM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
Dane: I understand what you're saying in regard to how what you hear over
the air is different than what you hear over the internet! Not all stations
are this way; WSM (in Nashville, Tennessee U.S.A.) as much as I've been able
to determine, is exactly the same on the internet as it is if you listen to
AM 650! But yes...there is something kind of special (and I can't explain
it) but if you can get a far-off station to come in good on a bonified radio
that is kind of unique! Having said that, I do enjoy being able to listen
to a station that is out of my area without having to contend with the
station fading out! I still can remember how it used to be, trying to
listen to the Grand Ole Opry back in the day; a song would be playing
and...just at the part where maybe a good instrumental solo was coming up,
WSM would start fading away to the point where you couldn't really hear it!
Of course nowadays, every now and again, you do get a situation where (if
you're listening on your computer or smart speaker) the connection drops;
this is also a pain! Fortunately (at least in my case) this doesn't happen
all that often! In regard to this San Gian radio: I might be tempted to
check it out further if it had the capability to get HD! I bought a San
Gian radio a couple of years ago (don't remember the exact model number) is
a nice radio and does get HD, but isn't quite as good as I thought it was
going to be! While it has wonderful selectivity, to me it tends to be a
little noisy on AM! On FM, if a station isn't really that close, sometimes
the stations will sound fuzzy or sort of like it is "miss tuned!"
Tom Kaufman

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Dane
Trethowan
Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2019 1:31 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Sangean PR-D17 AM/FM Radio for the Visually
Impaired

A couple of things here.
Often these days - particularly it seems with broadcasters from the US - the
Internet Streams and free-to-air broadcasting are two completely different
things.
Listen to say KNX or WINS and what you get over the Internet is quite
different than what you'll hear from the Medium-Wave transmitter.
Next - as a DX Listener - I find Internet radio to be rather an insult.
That is anyone can listen to Internet streams and that's convenient without
a doubt.
But their can be no doubt that the fun and the challenge from a DXer's point
of view is to be able to listen to that far off station and furthermore be
able to report the fact - in both written detail and literal sound - to the
station itself.
I have managed to listen to KNX in the US from Australia a number of times
on the radio long before Internet was even thought of for this sort of
thing.


-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of -
Sent: Sunday, 18 August 2019 2:57 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Sangean PR-D17 AM/FM Radio for the Visually
Impaired

I have few to none problems listening to radio worldwide on my smartspeaker.
It is also a fraction of the cost of an intrnet or standard radio.

On Sat, 17 Aug 2019, Dane Trethowan wrote:

That's the theory about Smart Speakers yes however they don't always
do what you tell them to do.


-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of -
Sent: Friday, 16 August 2019 11:07 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Sangean PR-D17 AM/FM Radio for the Visually
Impaired


Even internet radios have been passed by. Smart speakers will stream
all internet radio sources, including those worldwide, all by voice
command.
And they have many other sources of audio info including thousands of
podcasts and the cable and other news sources.

On Thu, 15 Aug 2019, Gary Schindler wrote:

That is why Sangean should concentrate on designing an internet
radio with
talking menus.

Once you have used a Sangean radio you get familiar with the
nomenclature and how to operate them and to me there isn't much
advantage
to having one of these!

It is commendable that Sangean does for now build something with
accessibility in mind.

On 8/15/2019 2:46 PM, Anders Holmberg wrote:
Hi! Actually not want to disrespect people here but i don???t get
the Am/fm radio thing anymore. I have a harman/kardon receiver
here but i very very seldom use the radio in that receiver. Maybe
i am boring or stupid or something but why not just listen via
internet.
/A

13 aug. 2019 kl. 22:54 skrev Dane Trethowan
<grtdane@...>:
Now this radio may be well worthwhile grabbing.

https://radiojayallen.com/sangean-pr-d7-am-fm-radio-for-the-visua
ll
y-impaire d/





-- XB







--
XB









--
Gary G. Schindler

Re: Sangean PR-D17 AM/FM Radio for the Visually Impaired

Gary Schindler
 

Amazon has it too!


With all the cell towers and computer noise in general you can't DX any more like you used to in the states.

On 8/17/2019 1:37 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
If anyone would like to buy in the US then you will find it at Universal Radio
https://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/spcialty/0417.html


-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Casey
Sent: Sunday, 18 August 2019 3:25 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Sangean PR-D17 AM/FM Radio for the Visually Impaired

Hi does anyone have this radio yet?

If so how is the sound on A.M and is the F.M reception as good as the say it is and what about on A.M also can you set the alarm so that you could wake up to the radio as well?



On 8/17/2019 11:57 AM, - wrote:
I have few to none problems listening to radio worldwide on my smartspeaker. It is also a fraction of the cost of an intrnet or standard radio.

On Sat, 17 Aug 2019, Dane Trethowan wrote:

That's the theory about Smart Speakers yes however they don't always
do what you tell them to do.


-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of -
Sent: Friday, 16 August 2019 11:07 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Sangean PR-D17 AM/FM Radio for the Visually
Impaired


Even internet radios have been passed by. Smart speakers will stream
all internet radio sources, including those worldwide, all by voice command.

And they have many other sources of audio info including thousands of
podcasts and the cable and other news sources.

On Thu, 15 Aug 2019, Gary Schindler wrote:

That is why Sangean should concentrate on designing an internet
radio with
talking menus.
Once you have used a Sangean radio you get familiar with the
nomenclature and how to operate them and to me there isn't much
advantage
to having one of these!
It is commendable that Sangean does for now build something with
accessibility in mind.
On 8/15/2019 2:46 PM, Anders Holmberg wrote:
Hi! Actually not want to disrespect people here but i don???t get
the Am/fm radio thing anymore. I have a harman/kardon receiver here
but i very very seldom use the radio in that receiver. Maybe i am
boring or stupid or something but why not just listen via internet.
/A

13 aug. 2019 kl. 22:54 skrev Dane Trethowan <grtdane@...>:

Now this radio may be well worthwhile grabbing.

https://radiojayallen.com/sangean-pr-d7-am-fm-radio-for-the-visual
l
y-impaire d/





-- XB







--
Gary G. Schindler

Re: Sangean PR-D17 AM/FM Radio for the Visually Impaired

Tom Kaufman
 

Agreed!
Tom Kaufman

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Dane
Trethowan
Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2019 2:12 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Sangean PR-D17 AM/FM Radio for the Visually
Impaired

A very general statement indeed.
I can go to my local retailer and purchase a standard radio for $20.
As I've explained earlier listening to radio stations on a Smart Speaker is
easy in theory sometimes but doesn't always work out in practise.
Some radio stations on my Amazon devices for example it seems just can't be
played no matter what my voicing instructions whilst others require a skill
to play correctly.
I guess the real point here is never to put all your eggs into one basket.


-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of -
Sent: Sunday, 18 August 2019 2:57 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Sangean PR-D17 AM/FM Radio for the Visually
Impaired

I have few to none problems listening to radio worldwide on my smartspeaker.
It is also a fraction of the cost of an intrnet or standard radio.

On Sat, 17 Aug 2019, Dane Trethowan wrote:

That's the theory about Smart Speakers yes however they don't always
do what you tell them to do.


-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of -
Sent: Friday, 16 August 2019 11:07 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Sangean PR-D17 AM/FM Radio for the Visually
Impaired


Even internet radios have been passed by. Smart speakers will stream
all internet radio sources, including those worldwide, all by voice
command.

And they have many other sources of audio info including thousands of
podcasts and the cable and other news sources.

On Thu, 15 Aug 2019, Gary Schindler wrote:

That is why Sangean should concentrate on designing an internet
radio with
talking menus.


Once you have used a Sangean radio you get familiar with the
nomenclature and how to operate them and to me there isn't much
advantage
to having one of these!


It is commendable that Sangean does for now build something with
accessibility in mind.


On 8/15/2019 2:46 PM, Anders Holmberg wrote:
Hi! Actually not want to disrespect people here but i don???t get
the Am/fm radio thing anymore. I have a harman/kardon receiver
here but i very very seldom use the radio in that receiver. Maybe
i am boring or stupid or something but why not just listen via
internet.
/A

13 aug. 2019 kl. 22:54 skrev Dane Trethowan
<grtdane@...>:

Now this radio may be well worthwhile grabbing.

https://radiojayallen.com/sangean-pr-d7-am-fm-radio-for-the-visua
ll
y-impaire d/






-- XB







--
XB