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Re: TV speakers.

Dane Trethowan
 

The Optical Digital connector looks different from other connectors.
Its a square connector and in some cases may be covered by a flap which opens when an optical connector itself is inserted, much like the old car cassette players we used opened when a cassette was pushed against the flap.
The Optical out jack could also possibly take the form of a 3.5MM minijack, this arrangement is used to provide both analogue and digital audio out form the same jack.

On 6 May 2019, at 6:49 am, Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:

I found the light on the back of the TV close to the other connectors, is that the optical digital connector for audio? This is a technology I am totally not familiar with, so I wish to learn! I expect that in some ways it is kind of like Bluetooth? just speculating as to how it connects to speakers or is it somewhat like an infrared connection to remotes where any interaction with the lights . . .

anyway, thanks guys for your patience with me in all this.


Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA

On 5/5/2019 8:37 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
So there we are, that’s the first I’ve ever heard of a TV having a HDMI out and obviously some do however the more common standard for audio is an optical out and at least one HDMI input, I’m willing to bet that the tV we’re discussing has at least and possibly more.
So the idea being that the TV is connected for audio purposes to the Soundbar or speaker system with an Optical Digital cable.
That way - if required - the soundbar/speakers can get extra effects that Digital TV now offers.


On 6 May 2019, at 1:32 am, Howard Traxler <howard@...> wrote:

We have a Sony TV that we got a little over three years ago. The installers gave me an HDMI cable (looks home made) with RCA male jacks on the other end. I plug them into my stereo auxilary inputs and, of course, have window-rattling speakers on the other end.. The three RCA females on the TV are for input only. Other ways of input are through HDMI connections.


<HT>

On 5/4/2019 8:41 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote:
Well this is suppose to be a top-of-the-line Vizio 4k 50-inch ultra smart TV, so it's connection should be top-of-the-line and conform to state-of-the-art.)

Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA

On 5/4/2019 4:48 PM, Matthew Chas via Groups.Io wrote:
I have a Sony soundbar that uses digital/audio or Toslink cable. That's where most TVs and soundbars are heading these days.--Matt, N1IBB.



On 5/4/2019 6:06 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Oh and as a footnote.
Most Soundbars as far as I know take a digital audio feed from your Televisions so your Television will more than likely have at least a digital audio output.


On 5 May 2019, at 7:36 am, Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:

thanks, these "sound bars," as such, the name confuses me, is it confined to a small area like a bar meaning length of the bar, or would you define it? Seems the TV has analog outputs, but they are RCA and don't change with the TV volume, other wise it'd be easy. I don't know if the TV has blue tooth or not. :) thanks

Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA

On 5/4/2019 11:01 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
The first thing you will need to do is to work out whether the TV has a digital or analogue out.
Then perhaps go looking for a Soundbar.
These are quite cheap now and no, we???re not talking about surround sound necessarily unless you really want that.
I???ve seen 2.1 channel soundboards about the place which work quite well.
The other option might be getting something like a Key Egg system which is effectively a small bookshelf system so you could put each speaker on either side of the television.


On 5 May 2019, at 3:28 am, Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:

Hi! Last week about this time I won a 50 inch 4K ultra Vizio smart TV, and need some speakers. We don't need surround sound just simple and sounding good. I think the back of the TV has RCA jacks for audio, but the output is not variable from them so I suppose there should be a remote which can be then handled by the main remote for volume from the cable box. We have Spectrum out here, so the cable box now talks. So please, suggest what you recommend I buy. My wife is getting impatient, :) (sort of) but we wish something decent sounding which I know you guys understand. :)

THANKS and please believe me, I sort of feel in a void as to what to look for, and where to find it. Amazon is good for us.

--


Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA






Re: TV speakers.

Dane Trethowan
 

Do you have a model number for this set? That way I might be able to look up a PDF manual so I can get further information.

On 6 May 2019, at 6:49 am, Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:

I found the light on the back of the TV close to the other connectors, is that the optical digital connector for audio? This is a technology I am totally not familiar with, so I wish to learn! I expect that in some ways it is kind of like Bluetooth? just speculating as to how it connects to speakers or is it somewhat like an infrared connection to remotes where any interaction with the lights . . .

anyway, thanks guys for your patience with me in all this.


Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA

On 5/5/2019 8:37 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
So there we are, that’s the first I’ve ever heard of a TV having a HDMI out and obviously some do however the more common standard for audio is an optical out and at least one HDMI input, I’m willing to bet that the tV we’re discussing has at least and possibly more.
So the idea being that the TV is connected for audio purposes to the Soundbar or speaker system with an Optical Digital cable.
That way - if required - the soundbar/speakers can get extra effects that Digital TV now offers.


On 6 May 2019, at 1:32 am, Howard Traxler <howard@...> wrote:

We have a Sony TV that we got a little over three years ago. The installers gave me an HDMI cable (looks home made) with RCA male jacks on the other end. I plug them into my stereo auxilary inputs and, of course, have window-rattling speakers on the other end.. The three RCA females on the TV are for input only. Other ways of input are through HDMI connections.


<HT>

On 5/4/2019 8:41 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote:
Well this is suppose to be a top-of-the-line Vizio 4k 50-inch ultra smart TV, so it's connection should be top-of-the-line and conform to state-of-the-art.)

Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA

On 5/4/2019 4:48 PM, Matthew Chas via Groups.Io wrote:
I have a Sony soundbar that uses digital/audio or Toslink cable. That's where most TVs and soundbars are heading these days.--Matt, N1IBB.



On 5/4/2019 6:06 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Oh and as a footnote.
Most Soundbars as far as I know take a digital audio feed from your Televisions so your Television will more than likely have at least a digital audio output.


On 5 May 2019, at 7:36 am, Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:

thanks, these "sound bars," as such, the name confuses me, is it confined to a small area like a bar meaning length of the bar, or would you define it? Seems the TV has analog outputs, but they are RCA and don't change with the TV volume, other wise it'd be easy. I don't know if the TV has blue tooth or not. :) thanks

Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA

On 5/4/2019 11:01 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
The first thing you will need to do is to work out whether the TV has a digital or analogue out.
Then perhaps go looking for a Soundbar.
These are quite cheap now and no, we???re not talking about surround sound necessarily unless you really want that.
I???ve seen 2.1 channel soundboards about the place which work quite well.
The other option might be getting something like a Key Egg system which is effectively a small bookshelf system so you could put each speaker on either side of the television.


On 5 May 2019, at 3:28 am, Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:

Hi! Last week about this time I won a 50 inch 4K ultra Vizio smart TV, and need some speakers. We don't need surround sound just simple and sounding good. I think the back of the TV has RCA jacks for audio, but the output is not variable from them so I suppose there should be a remote which can be then handled by the main remote for volume from the cable box. We have Spectrum out here, so the cable box now talks. So please, suggest what you recommend I buy. My wife is getting impatient, :) (sort of) but we wish something decent sounding which I know you guys understand. :)

THANKS and please believe me, I sort of feel in a void as to what to look for, and where to find it. Amazon is good for us.

--


Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA






Re: TV speakers.

Curtis Delzer
 

Hi, here is what I scanned, and hopefully it will help, and a thousand thanks.

MODELS / MODULES: D24h-G9, D50x-G9 & V505-G9

Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA

On 5/5/2019 1:58 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Do you have a model number for this set? That way I might be able to look up a PDF manual so I can get further information.


On 6 May 2019, at 6:49 am, Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:

I found the light on the back of the TV close to the other connectors, is that the optical digital connector for audio? This is a technology I am totally not familiar with, so I wish to learn! I expect that in some ways it is kind of like Bluetooth? just speculating as to how it connects to speakers or is it somewhat like an infrared connection to remotes where any interaction with the lights . . .

anyway, thanks guys for your patience with me in all this.


Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA

On 5/5/2019 8:37 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
So there we are, that’s the first I’ve ever heard of a TV having a HDMI out and obviously some do however the more common standard for audio is an optical out and at least one HDMI input, I’m willing to bet that the tV we’re discussing has at least and possibly more.
So the idea being that the TV is connected for audio purposes to the Soundbar or speaker system with an Optical Digital cable.
That way - if required - the soundbar/speakers can get extra effects that Digital TV now offers.


On 6 May 2019, at 1:32 am, Howard Traxler <howard@...> wrote:

We have a Sony TV that we got a little over three years ago. The installers gave me an HDMI cable (looks home made) with RCA male jacks on the other end. I plug them into my stereo auxilary inputs and, of course, have window-rattling speakers on the other end.. The three RCA females on the TV are for input only. Other ways of input are through HDMI connections.


<HT>

On 5/4/2019 8:41 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote:
Well this is suppose to be a top-of-the-line Vizio 4k 50-inch ultra smart TV, so it's connection should be top-of-the-line and conform to state-of-the-art.)

Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA

On 5/4/2019 4:48 PM, Matthew Chas via Groups.Io wrote:
I have a Sony soundbar that uses digital/audio or Toslink cable. That's where most TVs and soundbars are heading these days.--Matt, N1IBB.



On 5/4/2019 6:06 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Oh and as a footnote.
Most Soundbars as far as I know take a digital audio feed from your Televisions so your Television will more than likely have at least a digital audio output.


On 5 May 2019, at 7:36 am, Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:

thanks, these "sound bars," as such, the name confuses me, is it confined to a small area like a bar meaning length of the bar, or would you define it? Seems the TV has analog outputs, but they are RCA and don't change with the TV volume, other wise it'd be easy. I don't know if the TV has blue tooth or not. :) thanks

Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA

On 5/4/2019 11:01 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
The first thing you will need to do is to work out whether the TV has a digital or analogue out.
Then perhaps go looking for a Soundbar.
These are quite cheap now and no, we???re not talking about surround sound necessarily unless you really want that.
I???ve seen 2.1 channel soundboards about the place which work quite well.
The other option might be getting something like a Key Egg system which is effectively a small bookshelf system so you could put each speaker on either side of the television.


On 5 May 2019, at 3:28 am, Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:

Hi! Last week about this time I won a 50 inch 4K ultra Vizio smart TV, and need some speakers. We don't need surround sound just simple and sounding good. I think the back of the TV has RCA jacks for audio, but the output is not variable from them so I suppose there should be a remote which can be then handled by the main remote for volume from the cable box. We have Spectrum out here, so the cable box now talks. So please, suggest what you recommend I buy. My wife is getting impatient, :) (sort of) but we wish something decent sounding which I know you guys understand. :)

THANKS and please believe me, I sort of feel in a void as to what to look for, and where to find it. Amazon is good for us.

--


Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA




Re: TV speakers.

Curtis Delzer
 

Hi, I gave you not quite the correct model.

D50X-G9

thanks Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA

On 5/5/2019 1:54 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
The Optical Digital connector looks different from other connectors.
Its a square connector and in some cases may be covered by a flap which opens when an optical connector itself is inserted, much like the old car cassette players we used opened when a cassette was pushed against the flap.
The Optical out jack could also possibly take the form of a 3.5MM minijack, this arrangement is used to provide both analogue and digital audio out form the same jack.


On 6 May 2019, at 6:49 am, Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:

I found the light on the back of the TV close to the other connectors, is that the optical digital connector for audio? This is a technology I am totally not familiar with, so I wish to learn! I expect that in some ways it is kind of like Bluetooth? just speculating as to how it connects to speakers or is it somewhat like an infrared connection to remotes where any interaction with the lights . . .

anyway, thanks guys for your patience with me in all this.


Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA

On 5/5/2019 8:37 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
So there we are, that’s the first I’ve ever heard of a TV having a HDMI out and obviously some do however the more common standard for audio is an optical out and at least one HDMI input, I’m willing to bet that the tV we’re discussing has at least and possibly more.
So the idea being that the TV is connected for audio purposes to the Soundbar or speaker system with an Optical Digital cable.
That way - if required - the soundbar/speakers can get extra effects that Digital TV now offers.


On 6 May 2019, at 1:32 am, Howard Traxler <howard@...> wrote:

We have a Sony TV that we got a little over three years ago. The installers gave me an HDMI cable (looks home made) with RCA male jacks on the other end. I plug them into my stereo auxilary inputs and, of course, have window-rattling speakers on the other end.. The three RCA females on the TV are for input only. Other ways of input are through HDMI connections.


<HT>

On 5/4/2019 8:41 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote:
Well this is suppose to be a top-of-the-line Vizio 4k 50-inch ultra smart TV, so it's connection should be top-of-the-line and conform to state-of-the-art.)

Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA

On 5/4/2019 4:48 PM, Matthew Chas via Groups.Io wrote:
I have a Sony soundbar that uses digital/audio or Toslink cable. That's where most TVs and soundbars are heading these days.--Matt, N1IBB.



On 5/4/2019 6:06 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Oh and as a footnote.
Most Soundbars as far as I know take a digital audio feed from your Televisions so your Television will more than likely have at least a digital audio output.


On 5 May 2019, at 7:36 am, Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:

thanks, these "sound bars," as such, the name confuses me, is it confined to a small area like a bar meaning length of the bar, or would you define it? Seems the TV has analog outputs, but they are RCA and don't change with the TV volume, other wise it'd be easy. I don't know if the TV has blue tooth or not. :) thanks

Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA

On 5/4/2019 11:01 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
The first thing you will need to do is to work out whether the TV has a digital or analogue out.
Then perhaps go looking for a Soundbar.
These are quite cheap now and no, we???re not talking about surround sound necessarily unless you really want that.
I???ve seen 2.1 channel soundboards about the place which work quite well.
The other option might be getting something like a Key Egg system which is effectively a small bookshelf system so you could put each speaker on either side of the television.


On 5 May 2019, at 3:28 am, Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:

Hi! Last week about this time I won a 50 inch 4K ultra Vizio smart TV, and need some speakers. We don't need surround sound just simple and sounding good. I think the back of the TV has RCA jacks for audio, but the output is not variable from them so I suppose there should be a remote which can be then handled by the main remote for volume from the cable box. We have Spectrum out here, so the cable box now talks. So please, suggest what you recommend I buy. My wife is getting impatient, :) (sort of) but we wish something decent sounding which I know you guys understand. :)

THANKS and please believe me, I sort of feel in a void as to what to look for, and where to find it. Amazon is good for us.

--


Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA




Re: TV speakers.

Dane Trethowan
 

I’ve found a manual which covers 4 different models so I’ll see what I can make out of it.

On 6 May 2019, at 9:49 am, Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:

D50X-G9

Re: TV speakers.

Dane Trethowan
 

The optical digital output socket should be on the rear of your set.
It seems there’s an analogue 3.5MM socket on the front of the set for headphones.
The manual is a little confusing so I can’t say for sure what other sockets are on the rear of the Television apart fro at least 1 hDMI input - also on the front -, an LAN port and the power socket.

On 6 May 2019, at 9:49 am, Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:

Hi, I gave you not quite the correct model.

D50X-G9

thanks Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA

On 5/5/2019 1:54 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
The Optical Digital connector looks different from other connectors.
Its a square connector and in some cases may be covered by a flap which opens when an optical connector itself is inserted, much like the old car cassette players we used opened when a cassette was pushed against the flap.
The Optical out jack could also possibly take the form of a 3.5MM minijack, this arrangement is used to provide both analogue and digital audio out form the same jack.


On 6 May 2019, at 6:49 am, Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:

I found the light on the back of the TV close to the other connectors, is that the optical digital connector for audio? This is a technology I am totally not familiar with, so I wish to learn! I expect that in some ways it is kind of like Bluetooth? just speculating as to how it connects to speakers or is it somewhat like an infrared connection to remotes where any interaction with the lights . . .

anyway, thanks guys for your patience with me in all this.


Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA

On 5/5/2019 8:37 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
So there we are, that’s the first I’ve ever heard of a TV having a HDMI out and obviously some do however the more common standard for audio is an optical out and at least one HDMI input, I’m willing to bet that the tV we’re discussing has at least and possibly more.
So the idea being that the TV is connected for audio purposes to the Soundbar or speaker system with an Optical Digital cable.
That way - if required - the soundbar/speakers can get extra effects that Digital TV now offers.


On 6 May 2019, at 1:32 am, Howard Traxler <howard@...> wrote:

We have a Sony TV that we got a little over three years ago. The installers gave me an HDMI cable (looks home made) with RCA male jacks on the other end. I plug them into my stereo auxilary inputs and, of course, have window-rattling speakers on the other end.. The three RCA females on the TV are for input only. Other ways of input are through HDMI connections.


<HT>

On 5/4/2019 8:41 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote:
Well this is suppose to be a top-of-the-line Vizio 4k 50-inch ultra smart TV, so it's connection should be top-of-the-line and conform to state-of-the-art.)

Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA

On 5/4/2019 4:48 PM, Matthew Chas via Groups.Io wrote:
I have a Sony soundbar that uses digital/audio or Toslink cable. That's where most TVs and soundbars are heading these days.--Matt, N1IBB.



On 5/4/2019 6:06 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Oh and as a footnote.
Most Soundbars as far as I know take a digital audio feed from your Televisions so your Television will more than likely have at least a digital audio output.


On 5 May 2019, at 7:36 am, Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:

thanks, these "sound bars," as such, the name confuses me, is it confined to a small area like a bar meaning length of the bar, or would you define it? Seems the TV has analog outputs, but they are RCA and don't change with the TV volume, other wise it'd be easy. I don't know if the TV has blue tooth or not. :) thanks

Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA

On 5/4/2019 11:01 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
The first thing you will need to do is to work out whether the TV has a digital or analogue out.
Then perhaps go looking for a Soundbar.
These are quite cheap now and no, we???re not talking about surround sound necessarily unless you really want that.
I???ve seen 2.1 channel soundboards about the place which work quite well.
The other option might be getting something like a Key Egg system which is effectively a small bookshelf system so you could put each speaker on either side of the television.


On 5 May 2019, at 3:28 am, Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:

Hi! Last week about this time I won a 50 inch 4K ultra Vizio smart TV, and need some speakers. We don't need surround sound just simple and sounding good. I think the back of the TV has RCA jacks for audio, but the output is not variable from them so I suppose there should be a remote which can be then handled by the main remote for volume from the cable box. We have Spectrum out here, so the cable box now talks. So please, suggest what you recommend I buy. My wife is getting impatient, :) (sort of) but we wish something decent sounding which I know you guys understand. :)

THANKS and please believe me, I sort of feel in a void as to what to look for, and where to find it. Amazon is good for us.

--


Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA





Re: TV speakers.

Curtis Delzer
 

Hi, and thanks for looking. I can not find any earphone output on the front surface of the set, so if it is there, it is well hidden. The only

HDMI connectors I find are on the back, and the HDMI
are in a line from bottom to top number 1 2 and 3.
take care and thanks again for all the help.

Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA

On 5/5/2019 5:07 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
The optical digital output socket should be on the rear of your set.
It seems there’s an analogue 3.5MM socket on the front of the set for headphones.
The manual is a little confusing so I can’t say for sure what other sockets are on the rear of the Television apart fro at least 1 hDMI input - also on the front -, an LAN port and the power socket.


On 6 May 2019, at 9:49 am, Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:

Hi, I gave you not quite the correct model.

D50X-G9

thanks Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA

On 5/5/2019 1:54 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
The Optical Digital connector looks different from other connectors.
Its a square connector and in some cases may be covered by a flap which opens when an optical connector itself is inserted, much like the old car cassette players we used opened when a cassette was pushed against the flap.
The Optical out jack could also possibly take the form of a 3.5MM minijack, this arrangement is used to provide both analogue and digital audio out form the same jack.


On 6 May 2019, at 6:49 am, Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:

I found the light on the back of the TV close to the other connectors, is that the optical digital connector for audio? This is a technology I am totally not familiar with, so I wish to learn! I expect that in some ways it is kind of like Bluetooth? just speculating as to how it connects to speakers or is it somewhat like an infrared connection to remotes where any interaction with the lights . . .

anyway, thanks guys for your patience with me in all this.


Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA

On 5/5/2019 8:37 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
So there we are, that’s the first I’ve ever heard of a TV having a HDMI out and obviously some do however the more common standard for audio is an optical out and at least one HDMI input, I’m willing to bet that the tV we’re discussing has at least and possibly more.
So the idea being that the TV is connected for audio purposes to the Soundbar or speaker system with an Optical Digital cable.
That way - if required - the soundbar/speakers can get extra effects that Digital TV now offers.


On 6 May 2019, at 1:32 am, Howard Traxler <howard@...> wrote:

We have a Sony TV that we got a little over three years ago. The installers gave me an HDMI cable (looks home made) with RCA male jacks on the other end. I plug them into my stereo auxilary inputs and, of course, have window-rattling speakers on the other end.. The three RCA females on the TV are for input only. Other ways of input are through HDMI connections.


<HT>

On 5/4/2019 8:41 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote:
Well this is suppose to be a top-of-the-line Vizio 4k 50-inch ultra smart TV, so it's connection should be top-of-the-line and conform to state-of-the-art.)

Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA

On 5/4/2019 4:48 PM, Matthew Chas via Groups.Io wrote:
I have a Sony soundbar that uses digital/audio or Toslink cable. That's where most TVs and soundbars are heading these days.--Matt, N1IBB.



On 5/4/2019 6:06 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Oh and as a footnote.
Most Soundbars as far as I know take a digital audio feed from your Televisions so your Television will more than likely have at least a digital audio output.


On 5 May 2019, at 7:36 am, Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:

thanks, these "sound bars," as such, the name confuses me, is it confined to a small area like a bar meaning length of the bar, or would you define it? Seems the TV has analog outputs, but they are RCA and don't change with the TV volume, other wise it'd be easy. I don't know if the TV has blue tooth or not. :) thanks

Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA

On 5/4/2019 11:01 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
The first thing you will need to do is to work out whether the TV has a digital or analogue out.
Then perhaps go looking for a Soundbar.
These are quite cheap now and no, we???re not talking about surround sound necessarily unless you really want that.
I???ve seen 2.1 channel soundboards about the place which work quite well.
The other option might be getting something like a Key Egg system which is effectively a small bookshelf system so you could put each speaker on either side of the television.


On 5 May 2019, at 3:28 am, Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:

Hi! Last week about this time I won a 50 inch 4K ultra Vizio smart TV, and need some speakers. We don't need surround sound just simple and sounding good. I think the back of the TV has RCA jacks for audio, but the output is not variable from them so I suppose there should be a remote which can be then handled by the main remote for volume from the cable box. We have Spectrum out here, so the cable box now talks. So please, suggest what you recommend I buy. My wife is getting impatient, :) (sort of) but we wish something decent sounding which I know you guys understand. :)

THANKS and please believe me, I sort of feel in a void as to what to look for, and where to find it. Amazon is good for us.

--


Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA



Re: TV speakers.

Hamit Campos
 

h just so ya know HDMI 1 is the 1 we are interested in here. That's the 1 that has ARC. But and I forget now the other name of something else Visio TVs will want you to turn on as well. We delt with this because mom got a few mother's days ago a smart TV.

On 5/5/2019 10:05 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote:

Hi, and thanks for looking. I can not find any earphone output on the front surface of the set, so if it is there, it is well hidden. The only

HDMI connectors I find are on the back, and the HDMI
 are in a line from bottom to top number 1 2 and 3.
take care and thanks again for all the help.

Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA

On 5/5/2019 5:07 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
The optical digital output socket should be on the rear of your set.
It seems there’s an analogue 3.5MM socket on the front of the set for headphones.
The manual is a little confusing so I can’t say for sure what other sockets are on the rear of the Television apart fro at least 1 hDMI input - also on the front -, an LAN port and the power socket.


On 6 May 2019, at 9:49 am, Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:

Hi, I gave you not quite the correct model.

D50X-G9

thanks Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA

On 5/5/2019 1:54 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
The Optical Digital connector looks different from other connectors.
Its a square connector and in some cases may be covered by a flap which opens when an optical connector itself is inserted, much like the old car cassette players we used opened when a cassette was pushed against the flap.
The Optical out jack could also possibly take the form of a 3.5MM minijack, this arrangement is used to provide both analogue and digital audio out form the same jack.


On 6 May 2019, at 6:49 am, Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:

I found the light on the back of the TV close to the other connectors, is that the optical digital connector for audio? This is a technology I am totally not familiar with, so I wish to learn! I expect that in some ways it is kind of like Bluetooth? just speculating as to how it connects to speakers or is it somewhat like an infrared connection to remotes where any interaction with the lights . . .

anyway, thanks guys for your patience with me in all this.


Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA

On 5/5/2019 8:37 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
So there we are, that’s the first I’ve ever heard of a TV having a HDMI out and obviously some do however the more common standard for audio is an optical out and at least one HDMI input, I’m willing to bet that the tV we’re discussing has at least  and possibly more.
So the idea being that the TV is connected for audio purposes to the Soundbar or speaker system with an Optical Digital cable.
That way - if required - the soundbar/speakers can get extra effects that Digital TV now offers.


On 6 May 2019, at 1:32 am, Howard Traxler <howard@...> wrote:

We have a Sony TV that we got a little over three years ago. The installers gave me an HDMI cable (looks home made) with RCA male jacks on the other end.  I plug them into my stereo auxilary inputs and, of course, have window-rattling speakers on the other end..  The three RCA females on the TV are for input only.  Other ways of input are through HDMI connections.


<HT>

On 5/4/2019 8:41 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote:
Well this is suppose to be a top-of-the-line Vizio 4k 50-inch ultra smart TV, so it's connection should be top-of-the-line and conform to state-of-the-art.)

Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA

On 5/4/2019 4:48 PM, Matthew Chas via Groups.Io wrote:
I have a Sony soundbar that uses digital/audio or Toslink cable.  That's where most TVs and soundbars are heading these days.--Matt, N1IBB.



On 5/4/2019 6:06 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Oh and as a footnote.
Most Soundbars as far as I know take a digital audio feed from your Televisions so your Television will more than likely have at least a digital audio output.


On 5 May 2019, at 7:36 am, Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:

thanks, these "sound bars," as such, the name confuses me, is it confined to a small area like a bar meaning length of the bar, or would you define it? Seems the TV has analog outputs, but they are RCA and don't change with the TV volume, other wise it'd be easy. I don't know if the TV has blue tooth or not. :) thanks

Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA

On 5/4/2019 11:01 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
The first thing you will need to do is to work out whether the TV has a digital or analogue out.
Then perhaps go looking for a Soundbar.
These are quite cheap now and no, we???re not talking about surround sound necessarily unless you really want that.
I???ve seen 2.1 channel soundboards about the place which work quite well.
The other option might be getting something like a Key Egg system which is effectively a small bookshelf system so you could put each speaker on either side of the television.


On 5 May 2019, at 3:28 am, Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:

Hi! Last week about this time I won a 50 inch 4K ultra Vizio smart TV, and need some speakers. We don't need surround sound just simple and sounding good. I think the back of the TV has RCA jacks for audio, but the output is not variable from them so I suppose there should be a remote which can be then handled by the main remote for volume from the cable box. We have Spectrum out here, so the cable box now talks. So please, suggest what you recommend I buy. My wife is getting impatient, :) (sort of) but we wish something decent sounding which I know you guys understand. :)

THANKS and please believe me, I sort of feel in a void as to what to look for, and where to find it. Amazon is good for us.

--


Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA




VIZIO TV accessibility with built-in speech.

Curtis Delzer
 

Now I have read the manual and there is a way to make the RCA output from the TV, variable, just a matter of turning it on from the menus. Also, there is a way to turn on speech in the accessibility menu, and according to the manual all of it will then speak. That is quite exciting, so what I need to know is, are there any others of the Vizio TV on this list who have turned on the speech and just using what is available from within the unit, able to manage all menus and options? What they always forget is that there is no way that someone without sight can get to the menu and turn on the speech, and I hear it is "talk back," so I wonder how it sounds. I just have to get a sighted person over here and to play with my remote and see. :)

So, thanks all who have chimed in and helped me, explaining much and perusing the manual, etc.


Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA

On 5/4/2019 10:28 AM, Curtis Delzer wrote:
Hi! Last week about this time I won a 50 inch 4K ultra Vizio smart TV, and need some speakers. We don't need surround sound just simple and sounding good. I think the back of the TV has RCA jacks for audio, but the output is not variable from them so I suppose there should be a remote which can be then handled by the main remote for volume from the cable box. We have Spectrum out here, so the cable box now talks. So please, suggest what you recommend I buy. My wife is getting impatient, :) (sort of) but we wish something decent sounding which I know you guys understand. :)

THANKS and please believe me, I sort of feel in a void as to what to look for, and where to find it. Amazon is good for us.

Re: TV speakers.

Dane Trethowan
 

As I said its difficult to make sense of a manual which refers to 4 models.
I’m dead sure however that the optical socket is around the back.

On 6 May 2019, at 12:05 pm, Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:

Hi, and thanks for looking. I can not find any earphone output on the front surface of the set, so if it is there, it is well hidden. The only

HDMI connectors I find are on the back, and the HDMI
are in a line from bottom to top number 1 2 and 3.
take care and thanks again for all the help.

Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA

On 5/5/2019 5:07 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
The optical digital output socket should be on the rear of your set.
It seems there’s an analogue 3.5MM socket on the front of the set for headphones.
The manual is a little confusing so I can’t say for sure what other sockets are on the rear of the Television apart fro at least 1 hDMI input - also on the front -, an LAN port and the power socket.


On 6 May 2019, at 9:49 am, Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:

Hi, I gave you not quite the correct model.

D50X-G9

thanks Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA

On 5/5/2019 1:54 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
The Optical Digital connector looks different from other connectors.
Its a square connector and in some cases may be covered by a flap which opens when an optical connector itself is inserted, much like the old car cassette players we used opened when a cassette was pushed against the flap.
The Optical out jack could also possibly take the form of a 3.5MM minijack, this arrangement is used to provide both analogue and digital audio out form the same jack.


On 6 May 2019, at 6:49 am, Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:

I found the light on the back of the TV close to the other connectors, is that the optical digital connector for audio? This is a technology I am totally not familiar with, so I wish to learn! I expect that in some ways it is kind of like Bluetooth? just speculating as to how it connects to speakers or is it somewhat like an infrared connection to remotes where any interaction with the lights . . .

anyway, thanks guys for your patience with me in all this.


Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA

On 5/5/2019 8:37 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
So there we are, that’s the first I’ve ever heard of a TV having a HDMI out and obviously some do however the more common standard for audio is an optical out and at least one HDMI input, I’m willing to bet that the tV we’re discussing has at least and possibly more.
So the idea being that the TV is connected for audio purposes to the Soundbar or speaker system with an Optical Digital cable.
That way - if required - the soundbar/speakers can get extra effects that Digital TV now offers.


On 6 May 2019, at 1:32 am, Howard Traxler <howard@...> wrote:

We have a Sony TV that we got a little over three years ago. The installers gave me an HDMI cable (looks home made) with RCA male jacks on the other end. I plug them into my stereo auxilary inputs and, of course, have window-rattling speakers on the other end.. The three RCA females on the TV are for input only. Other ways of input are through HDMI connections.


<HT>

On 5/4/2019 8:41 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote:
Well this is suppose to be a top-of-the-line Vizio 4k 50-inch ultra smart TV, so it's connection should be top-of-the-line and conform to state-of-the-art.)

Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA

On 5/4/2019 4:48 PM, Matthew Chas via Groups.Io wrote:
I have a Sony soundbar that uses digital/audio or Toslink cable. That's where most TVs and soundbars are heading these days.--Matt, N1IBB.



On 5/4/2019 6:06 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Oh and as a footnote.
Most Soundbars as far as I know take a digital audio feed from your Televisions so your Television will more than likely have at least a digital audio output.


On 5 May 2019, at 7:36 am, Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:

thanks, these "sound bars," as such, the name confuses me, is it confined to a small area like a bar meaning length of the bar, or would you define it? Seems the TV has analog outputs, but they are RCA and don't change with the TV volume, other wise it'd be easy. I don't know if the TV has blue tooth or not. :) thanks

Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA

On 5/4/2019 11:01 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
The first thing you will need to do is to work out whether the TV has a digital or analogue out.
Then perhaps go looking for a Soundbar.
These are quite cheap now and no, we???re not talking about surround sound necessarily unless you really want that.
I???ve seen 2.1 channel soundboards about the place which work quite well.
The other option might be getting something like a Key Egg system which is effectively a small bookshelf system so you could put each speaker on either side of the television.


On 5 May 2019, at 3:28 am, Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:

Hi! Last week about this time I won a 50 inch 4K ultra Vizio smart TV, and need some speakers. We don't need surround sound just simple and sounding good. I think the back of the TV has RCA jacks for audio, but the output is not variable from them so I suppose there should be a remote which can be then handled by the main remote for volume from the cable box. We have Spectrum out here, so the cable box now talks. So please, suggest what you recommend I buy. My wife is getting impatient, :) (sort of) but we wish something decent sounding which I know you guys understand. :)

THANKS and please believe me, I sort of feel in a void as to what to look for, and where to find it. Amazon is good for us.

--


Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA




Sooundbars

Dane Trethowan
 

I’m glad we’re talking about this actually as I’m planning on a Soundbar purchase for later this year.
I took the opportunity of looking up “Best Soundbars of 2019” and was most interested to see that the Denon Heosbar rates very highly it seems.
I do have some Heos products already - the Denon AVR-X3400H, Heos 7 and Heos 1 - so the addition of the Heosbar makes perfect sense as I already have the infra structure in place to drive the equipment.

On 6 May 2019, at 1:00 pm, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

h just so ya know HDMI 1 is the 1 we are interested in here. That's the 1 that has ARC. But and I forget now the other name of something else Visio TVs will want you to turn on as well. We delt with this because mom got a few mother's days ago a smart TV.
On 5/5/2019 10:05 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote:

Hi, and thanks for looking. I can not find any earphone output on the front surface of the set, so if it is there, it is well hidden. The only

HDMI connectors I find are on the back, and the HDMI
are in a line from bottom to top number 1 2 and 3.
take care and thanks again for all the help.

Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA

On 5/5/2019 5:07 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
The optical digital output socket should be on the rear of your set.
It seems there’s an analogue 3.5MM socket on the front of the set for headphones.
The manual is a little confusing so I can’t say for sure what other sockets are on the rear of the Television apart fro at least 1 hDMI input - also on the front -, an LAN port and the power socket.


On 6 May 2019, at 9:49 am, Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:

Hi, I gave you not quite the correct model.

D50X-G9

thanks Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA

On 5/5/2019 1:54 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
The Optical Digital connector looks different from other connectors.
Its a square connector and in some cases may be covered by a flap which opens when an optical connector itself is inserted, much like the old car cassette players we used opened when a cassette was pushed against the flap.
The Optical out jack could also possibly take the form of a 3.5MM minijack, this arrangement is used to provide both analogue and digital audio out form the same jack.


On 6 May 2019, at 6:49 am, Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:

I found the light on the back of the TV close to the other connectors, is that the optical digital connector for audio? This is a technology I am totally not familiar with, so I wish to learn! I expect that in some ways it is kind of like Bluetooth? just speculating as to how it connects to speakers or is it somewhat like an infrared connection to remotes where any interaction with the lights . . .

anyway, thanks guys for your patience with me in all this.


Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA

On 5/5/2019 8:37 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
So there we are, that’s the first I’ve ever heard of a TV having a HDMI out and obviously some do however the more common standard for audio is an optical out and at least one HDMI input, I’m willing to bet that the tV we’re discussing has at least and possibly more.
So the idea being that the TV is connected for audio purposes to the Soundbar or speaker system with an Optical Digital cable.
That way - if required - the soundbar/speakers can get extra effects that Digital TV now offers.


On 6 May 2019, at 1:32 am, Howard Traxler <howard@...> wrote:

We have a Sony TV that we got a little over three years ago. The installers gave me an HDMI cable (looks home made) with RCA male jacks on the other end. I plug them into my stereo auxilary inputs and, of course, have window-rattling speakers on the other end.. The three RCA females on the TV are for input only. Other ways of input are through HDMI connections.


<HT>

On 5/4/2019 8:41 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote:
Well this is suppose to be a top-of-the-line Vizio 4k 50-inch ultra smart TV, so it's connection should be top-of-the-line and conform to state-of-the-art.)

Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA

On 5/4/2019 4:48 PM, Matthew Chas via Groups.Io wrote:
I have a Sony soundbar that uses digital/audio or Toslink cable. That's where most TVs and soundbars are heading these days.--Matt, N1IBB.



On 5/4/2019 6:06 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Oh and as a footnote.
Most Soundbars as far as I know take a digital audio feed from your Televisions so your Television will more than likely have at least a digital audio output.


On 5 May 2019, at 7:36 am, Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:

thanks, these "sound bars," as such, the name confuses me, is it confined to a small area like a bar meaning length of the bar, or would you define it? Seems the TV has analog outputs, but they are RCA and don't change with the TV volume, other wise it'd be easy. I don't know if the TV has blue tooth or not. :) thanks

Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA

On 5/4/2019 11:01 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
The first thing you will need to do is to work out whether the TV has a digital or analogue out.
Then perhaps go looking for a Soundbar.
These are quite cheap now and no, we???re not talking about surround sound necessarily unless you really want that.
I???ve seen 2.1 channel soundboards about the place which work quite well.
The other option might be getting something like a Key Egg system which is effectively a small bookshelf system so you could put each speaker on either side of the television.


On 5 May 2019, at 3:28 am, Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:

Hi! Last week about this time I won a 50 inch 4K ultra Vizio smart TV, and need some speakers. We don't need surround sound just simple and sounding good. I think the back of the TV has RCA jacks for audio, but the output is not variable from them so I suppose there should be a remote which can be then handled by the main remote for volume from the cable box. We have Spectrum out here, so the cable box now talks. So please, suggest what you recommend I buy. My wife is getting impatient, :) (sort of) but we wish something decent sounding which I know you guys understand. :)

THANKS and please believe me, I sort of feel in a void as to what to look for, and where to find it. Amazon is good for us.

--


Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA





Re: TV speakers.

Curtis Delzer
 

I will check into these for sure! I know about KEF, and am wondering how B&W became something other than Barker & Williamson. :)

Fascinating how these things change over the years. :)

Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA

On 5/4/2019 7:01 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
By the sounds of your place perhaps something like the Key Egg speaker system might be useful given you have plenty of room on your entertainment unit.
The Key Egg is a very small but flexible and good sounding bookshelf speaker system.
The flexibility of the Egg system means it can be used for all sorts of audio tasks around the home.
You could put the Key Egg on a desk with your computer using the USB input thus the computer treats the Key egg as a sound card and you thereby get access to full digital crips clear sound.
Connect the Key Egg’s digital input to your Television .
Use the Key Egg with your iPhone or other Bluetooth devices.
The Egg system consists of a left and right speaker wired together with all the inputs and outputs on the rear of the right speaker.
You can even connect a sub-woofer if you want more bass.
I have a Kef Egg system in my Den on my computer desk though I don’t yet have a sub-woofer connected but I’m still amazed at the sound of the Egg system.
Key use drivers which radiate the sound around the room, great stereo sound without any sweet spots so this means that you can wandered around your room and listen in any position you like and you still hear stunning stereo sound.
Yes you pay good money for the Key Egg system but you will be rewarded. Ief like Bowers And Wilkins have been in the speaker game for over 50 years so they know what they’re doing.


On 5 May 2019, at 11:36 am, Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:

hSay, you might give me an idea as to what you buy for your den because our living room is probably smaller than that is. This is a 50 inch TV, so I suppose the length of the bar would at least similarly correspond to the left-to-right measurements of the TV. Again you're talking with someone whom has never seen a sound bar so am a bit fumble-fingers about what it is and how it works. I presume then that the bar handles the highs and connects to a sub woofer. I know that 2 jacks are audio outputs because I connected them to a set of speakers and they work except there is no way to control their volume. There seems to be 3 more RCA jacks which are probably what you suggest. We have plenty of room on top of our "entertainment" center, where the TV is in it's exact center from right to left. :)

SURE APPRECIATE all the help and suggestions.

Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA

On 5/4/2019 3:05 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
The Soundbar is usually a unit the TV sits on though there may be other configurations depending on what you want, how much space you have etc.
I’m will be purchasing a Soundbar for the Den and I plan to go out and have a look at a few models.
As far as analogue outputs go on your Television? You’re really going to need signed assistance to confirm that.
The sockets could be anything, Composite video in or out, Component video in or out and perhaps audio line in or out.


On 5 May 2019, at 7:36 am, Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:

thanks, these "sound bars," as such, the name confuses me, is it confined to a small area like a bar meaning length of the bar, or would you define it? Seems the TV has analog outputs, but they are RCA and don't change with the TV volume, other wise it'd be easy. I don't know if the TV has blue tooth or not. :) thanks

Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA

On 5/4/2019 11:01 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
The first thing you will need to do is to work out whether the TV has a digital or analogue out.
Then perhaps go looking for a Soundbar.
These are quite cheap now and no, we’re not talking about surround sound necessarily unless you really want that.
I’ve seen 2.1 channel soundboards about the place which work quite well.
The other option might be getting something like a Key Egg system which is effectively a small bookshelf system so you could put each speaker on either side of the television.


On 5 May 2019, at 3:28 am, Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:

Hi! Last week about this time I won a 50 inch 4K ultra Vizio smart TV, and need some speakers. We don't need surround sound just simple and sounding good. I think the back of the TV has RCA jacks for audio, but the output is not variable from them so I suppose there should be a remote which can be then handled by the main remote for volume from the cable box. We have Spectrum out here, so the cable box now talks. So please, suggest what you recommend I buy. My wife is getting impatient, :) (sort of) but we wish something decent sounding which I know you guys understand. :)

THANKS and please believe me, I sort of feel in a void as to what to look for, and where to find it. Amazon is good for us.

--


Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA



Re: TV speakers.

Curtis Delzer
 

wow, thank you so very much for the detailed message. I am going to look into all of this, for sure, and consult with my wife who listens quite a lot to this and see how we get on about it.

Again, many thanks. I am saving your message for more perusal!


Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA

On 5/5/2019 2:20 AM, pete gurney wrote:
hi curtis,

i agree with those that say the kef egg are good as i have had these
connected to my computer for a few years and they are really good.
but like you i recently got a large screen tv and wanted something good
to go with it.
after studying as many soundbars and surround systems around in january
which is when i was getting one i came to the conclusion it had to be a
dolby atmos system as this appears to be the future of home cinema sound
systems.
this not only gives you sound from all around you but also gives sound
from above as well so it sounds like your in the middle of the action.
lots of this type of system require you to mount speakers in the ceiling
which i didn't want to do so i then started looking for something that
can do the same thing without mounting that type of ceiling speakers.
i found 2 manufacturers that sold systems with vertual atmos sound
without having to mount ceiling speakers.
they were sony and damson.
every one knows sony but probably most people wont know damson.
damson have invented the smallest dolby atmos surround system in the
world the soundbar, sub woofer, and rear speakers are all wireless and
really small compared to normal soundbars and sub woofers.
and the way they create the over head sound is that they have a small
speaker unit that magnetises
to the top of the soundbar and fires sound up to bounce off the ceiling
to give you the sense of being in the middle of everything.
the sony models do this in a different way.
they have developed what they call their virtical sound engine which
gives off sounds tiny fractions of seconds apart and as they change
those fractions it makes it sound like things are going over and around
your head.
sony have a few of these systems, the ht-x8500 which is just a stand
alone soundbar with small sub woofer built in, the ht-x9000 which comes
i believe as a soundbar with a seporate sub woofer, and the ht-f9 which
is a soundbar with seporate sub woofer plus you can buy wireless rear
speakers as an optional extra.
in the UK the ht-x8500 costs £350 and this one was only released in
january, the ht-x9000 costs £377, and the ht-f9 costs £598 plus an extra
£260 for the optional wireless rear speakers.
all of these have HDMI ARC sockets which your new tv should have the
difference between a standard HDMI and the HDMI ARC socket is that the
ARC one has an audio return channel meaning the HDMI lead connected to
this socket on the soundbar and the tv is the only connection you need
between the 2 as it sends the sound back down the same HDMI lead to feed
the sound to the sound system.
i eventually decided to get the sony system and went for the ht-f9 [at
that time the ht-x8500 hadn't been released].
the reason i went for that one was to be on the cautious side as just
like many years ago when there was betamax and vhs and no one knew who
would win the same can be said about sound now as there is dolby atmos
and dts-x competing for the best sound, but with the sony ht-f9 this
system can work with either type of sound feeds.
both the other sony models can handle both types as well.
the damson model could not handle the dts-x sound.
also the damson method of bouncing sound off the ceiling requires you to
have a completely smooth flat ceiling which i don't have as i have artex
ceilings where theres patterns engraved in them.
the sony also have a virtual dolby atmos button on the remote control
which will simulate over head sounds from non dolby atmos signals.
after having this dolby atmos sound for the last 4 months i wouldn't
want to go back to just stereo or a standard surround sound.
my ht-f9 and the ht-9000 have both wi-fi and bluetooth capability as
well but as far as i can tell the ht-8500 only has bluetooth as i can
find no mention of wi-fi.
if you can visit somewhere that have dolby atmos systems that they can
demonstrate i'm sure you wouldn't want anything else after hearing it.
hope this helps.

pete.



Re: TV speakers.

Curtis Delzer
 

all ok, and that is exactly where it is. I got the manual, though it was a matter of finally them accepting what I put in for model number, and then I got all 54 pages of and read it with my Kurzweil 1000, just about perfectly. Some of the menu descriptions were scattered, but I got that the 4 TV units were all a little different in their back panels, like one of them had that earphone socket in front, etc. and some had off/on controls on the rear where mine does not. :)

So, with a huge sigh of relief now, with your help which is truly appreciated and your effort, I am finally going to hit the sack. Been quite a long day catching up with emails plus all the rest of the stuff I do round here. :)

Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA

On 5/5/2019 11:43 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
As I said its difficult to make sense of a manual which refers to 4 models.
I’m dead sure however that the optical socket is around the back.


On 6 May 2019, at 12:05 pm, Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:

Hi, and thanks for looking. I can not find any earphone output on the front surface of the set, so if it is there, it is well hidden. The only

HDMI connectors I find are on the back, and the HDMI
are in a line from bottom to top number 1 2 and 3.
take care and thanks again for all the help.

Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA

On 5/5/2019 5:07 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
The optical digital output socket should be on the rear of your set.
It seems there’s an analogue 3.5MM socket on the front of the set for headphones.
The manual is a little confusing so I can’t say for sure what other sockets are on the rear of the Television apart fro at least 1 hDMI input - also on the front -, an LAN port and the power socket.


On 6 May 2019, at 9:49 am, Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:

Hi, I gave you not quite the correct model.

D50X-G9

thanks Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA

On 5/5/2019 1:54 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
The Optical Digital connector looks different from other connectors.
Its a square connector and in some cases may be covered by a flap which opens when an optical connector itself is inserted, much like the old car cassette players we used opened when a cassette was pushed against the flap.
The Optical out jack could also possibly take the form of a 3.5MM minijack, this arrangement is used to provide both analogue and digital audio out form the same jack.


On 6 May 2019, at 6:49 am, Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:

I found the light on the back of the TV close to the other connectors, is that the optical digital connector for audio? This is a technology I am totally not familiar with, so I wish to learn! I expect that in some ways it is kind of like Bluetooth? just speculating as to how it connects to speakers or is it somewhat like an infrared connection to remotes where any interaction with the lights . . .

anyway, thanks guys for your patience with me in all this.


Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA

On 5/5/2019 8:37 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
So there we are, that’s the first I’ve ever heard of a TV having a HDMI out and obviously some do however the more common standard for audio is an optical out and at least one HDMI input, I’m willing to bet that the tV we’re discussing has at least and possibly more.
So the idea being that the TV is connected for audio purposes to the Soundbar or speaker system with an Optical Digital cable.
That way - if required - the soundbar/speakers can get extra effects that Digital TV now offers.


On 6 May 2019, at 1:32 am, Howard Traxler <howard@...> wrote:

We have a Sony TV that we got a little over three years ago. The installers gave me an HDMI cable (looks home made) with RCA male jacks on the other end. I plug them into my stereo auxilary inputs and, of course, have window-rattling speakers on the other end.. The three RCA females on the TV are for input only. Other ways of input are through HDMI connections.


<HT>

On 5/4/2019 8:41 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote:
Well this is suppose to be a top-of-the-line Vizio 4k 50-inch ultra smart TV, so it's connection should be top-of-the-line and conform to state-of-the-art.)

Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA

On 5/4/2019 4:48 PM, Matthew Chas via Groups.Io wrote:
I have a Sony soundbar that uses digital/audio or Toslink cable. That's where most TVs and soundbars are heading these days.--Matt, N1IBB.



On 5/4/2019 6:06 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Oh and as a footnote.
Most Soundbars as far as I know take a digital audio feed from your Televisions so your Television will more than likely have at least a digital audio output.


On 5 May 2019, at 7:36 am, Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:

thanks, these "sound bars," as such, the name confuses me, is it confined to a small area like a bar meaning length of the bar, or would you define it? Seems the TV has analog outputs, but they are RCA and don't change with the TV volume, other wise it'd be easy. I don't know if the TV has blue tooth or not. :) thanks

Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA

On 5/4/2019 11:01 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
The first thing you will need to do is to work out whether the TV has a digital or analogue out.
Then perhaps go looking for a Soundbar.
These are quite cheap now and no, we???re not talking about surround sound necessarily unless you really want that.
I???ve seen 2.1 channel soundboards about the place which work quite well.
The other option might be getting something like a Key Egg system which is effectively a small bookshelf system so you could put each speaker on either side of the television.


On 5 May 2019, at 3:28 am, Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:

Hi! Last week about this time I won a 50 inch 4K ultra Vizio smart TV, and need some speakers. We don't need surround sound just simple and sounding good. I think the back of the TV has RCA jacks for audio, but the output is not variable from them so I suppose there should be a remote which can be then handled by the main remote for volume from the cable box. We have Spectrum out here, so the cable box now talks. So please, suggest what you recommend I buy. My wife is getting impatient, :) (sort of) but we wish something decent sounding which I know you guys understand. :)

THANKS and please believe me, I sort of feel in a void as to what to look for, and where to find it. Amazon is good for us.

--


Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA



Re: VIZIO TV accessibility with built-in speech.

Matthew Chao
 

So, you have an Android SmartTv. Should be relatively easy once you get TalkBack going. Good luck.--Matt, N1IBB.

On 5/6/2019 1:48 AM, Curtis Delzer wrote:
Now I have read the manual and there is a way to make the RCA output from the TV, variable, just a matter of turning it on from the menus. Also, there is a way to turn on speech in the accessibility menu, and according to the manual all of it will then speak. That is quite exciting, so what I need to know is, are there any others of the Vizio TV on this list who have turned on the speech and just using what is available from within the unit, able to manage all menus and options? What they always forget is that there is no way that someone without sight can get to the menu and turn on the speech, and I hear it is "talk back," so I wonder how it sounds. I just have to get a sighted person over here and to play with my remote and see. :)
So, thanks all who have chimed in and helped me, explaining much and perusing the manual, etc.
Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA
On 5/4/2019 10:28 AM, Curtis Delzer wrote:
Hi! Last week about this time I won a 50 inch 4K ultra Vizio smart TV, and need some speakers. We don't need surround sound just simple and sounding good. I think the back of the TV has RCA jacks for audio, but the output is not variable from them so I suppose there should be a remote which can be then handled by the main remote for volume from the cable box. We have Spectrum out here, so the cable box now talks. So please, suggest what you recommend I buy. My wife is getting impatient, :) (sort of) but we wish something decent sounding which I know you guys understand. :)

THANKS and please believe me, I sort of feel in a void as to what to look for, and where to find it. Amazon is good for us.

Re: VIZIO TV accessibility with built-in speech.

Dane Trethowan
 

I’ve been looking at the manual again.
Unfortunately the specifications don’t say what OS the TV is running and there is no mention of Android so - as it appears to me - the Television isn’t an Android set so therefore - and the manual sort of confirms this - the Talk Back access you have is only for adjustments of settings and not much else if anything at all so therefore Talk Back is just a name given to the feature it seems rather than actually being the Android Talk Back Screen Reader App itself as you can install or see on Android devices.
It is exciting enough to be able to adjust settings and whether your TV is Android or not may not bother you and fair enough, after all you do buy a Television for the audio and sound I would imagine.
The Talk Back only seems to be in English and that wouldn’t be the case if the Television was Android as you would be able to use or install Talkback to your own language preference.
Some other notes I made.
The Television talks about its “Smart Cast” capabilities which sound nice but don’t be at all surprised if you can’t access these via speech.
There is no mention of DLNA compatibility, Google Cast compatibility etc in the manual that I can find so I would like to assume that these functions are part of your Smart Television and I sincerely hop that my assumption is right.
Good luck with all of that and keep us informed as to how you’re going, what system you end up connecting etc.

On 6 May 2019, at 10:30 pm, Matthew Chao via Groups.Io <mattchao=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:

So, you have an Android SmartTv. Should be relatively easy once you get TalkBack going. Good luck.--Matt, N1IBB.



On 5/6/2019 1:48 AM, Curtis Delzer wrote:
Now I have read the manual and there is a way to make the RCA output from the TV, variable, just a matter of turning it on from the menus. Also, there is a way to turn on speech in the accessibility menu, and according to the manual all of it will then speak. That is quite exciting, so what I need to know is, are there any others of the Vizio TV on this list who have turned on the speech and just using what is available from within the unit, able to manage all menus and options? What they always forget is that there is no way that someone without sight can get to the menu and turn on the speech, and I hear it is "talk back," so I wonder how it sounds. I just have to get a sighted person over here and to play with my remote and see. :)
So, thanks all who have chimed in and helped me, explaining much and perusing the manual, etc.
Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA
On 5/4/2019 10:28 AM, Curtis Delzer wrote:
Hi! Last week about this time I won a 50 inch 4K ultra Vizio smart TV, and need some speakers. We don't need surround sound just simple and sounding good. I think the back of the TV has RCA jacks for audio, but the output is not variable from them so I suppose there should be a remote which can be then handled by the main remote for volume from the cable box. We have Spectrum out here, so the cable box now talks. So please, suggest what you recommend I buy. My wife is getting impatient, :) (sort of) but we wish something decent sounding which I know you guys understand. :)

THANKS and please believe me, I sort of feel in a void as to what to look for, and where to find it. Amazon is good for us.

Re: VIZIO TV accessibility with built-in speech.

Curtis Delzer
 

I wonder, why then, they could use "talk back," unless they bought a license to use it, or have some kind of other rights to use it or call their access "talk back." :) Well, as soon as I get a sighted person in here I'll definitely be checking that out. I won the TV in a raffle, so didn't decide on model number or access potential, that is just a bonus.

I'll definitely keep you all posted and I definitely appreciate you all helping me get out of the darkness with regard to this TV and what speakers, etc. to use.

Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA

On 5/6/2019 10:37 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
I’ve been looking at the manual again.
Unfortunately the specifications don’t say what OS the TV is running and there is no mention of Android so - as it appears to me - the Television isn’t an Android set so therefore - and the manual sort of confirms this - the Talk Back access you have is only for adjustments of settings and not much else if anything at all so therefore Talk Back is just a name given to the feature it seems rather than actually being the Android Talk Back Screen Reader App itself as you can install or see on Android devices.
It is exciting enough to be able to adjust settings and whether your TV is Android or not may not bother you and fair enough, after all you do buy a Television for the audio and sound I would imagine.
The Talk Back only seems to be in English and that wouldn’t be the case if the Television was Android as you would be able to use or install Talkback to your own language preference.
Some other notes I made.
The Television talks about its “Smart Cast” capabilities which sound nice but don’t be at all surprised if you can’t access these via speech.
There is no mention of DLNA compatibility, Google Cast compatibility etc in the manual that I can find so I would like to assume that these functions are part of your Smart Television and I sincerely hop that my assumption is right.
Good luck with all of that and keep us informed as to how you’re going, what system you end up connecting etc.


On 6 May 2019, at 10:30 pm, Matthew Chao via Groups.Io <mattchao=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:

So, you have an Android SmartTv. Should be relatively easy once you get TalkBack going. Good luck.--Matt, N1IBB.



On 5/6/2019 1:48 AM, Curtis Delzer wrote:
Now I have read the manual and there is a way to make the RCA output from the TV, variable, just a matter of turning it on from the menus. Also, there is a way to turn on speech in the accessibility menu, and according to the manual all of it will then speak. That is quite exciting, so what I need to know is, are there any others of the Vizio TV on this list who have turned on the speech and just using what is available from within the unit, able to manage all menus and options? What they always forget is that there is no way that someone without sight can get to the menu and turn on the speech, and I hear it is "talk back," so I wonder how it sounds. I just have to get a sighted person over here and to play with my remote and see. :)
So, thanks all who have chimed in and helped me, explaining much and perusing the manual, etc.
Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA
On 5/4/2019 10:28 AM, Curtis Delzer wrote:
Hi! Last week about this time I won a 50 inch 4K ultra Vizio smart TV, and need some speakers. We don't need surround sound just simple and sounding good. I think the back of the TV has RCA jacks for audio, but the output is not variable from them so I suppose there should be a remote which can be then handled by the main remote for volume from the cable box. We have Spectrum out here, so the cable box now talks. So please, suggest what you recommend I buy. My wife is getting impatient, :) (sort of) but we wish something decent sounding which I know you guys understand. :)

THANKS and please believe me, I sort of feel in a void as to what to look for, and where to find it. Amazon is good for us.

Re: VIZIO TV accessibility with built-in speech.

Dane Trethowan
 

Just a guess but I think Talk Back in this instance is just a description, the same as saying Voice Feedback.
Your attitude to the Television is much the same as mine was when I bought my first Samsung set in 2011 for the small sum of $200.
I still have that 19 inch set which will be moved into the Den at a later time.
There’s nothing special about this Television apart from the fact that it still works after 7 years without a hitch.
The Television has no special connectivity, has 1 HDMI socket, a Digital out and a whole heap of RCA sockets that are to do with video in and video out though I’ve never bothered about them having no need.
I like the fact that I can turn on the Television and just switch to whatever channel I fancy watching so if the Television did come with some sort of extra accessibility built-in? Well yes that would have ben a huge boom.
Actually the Television did come with an accessibility function I hadn’t counted on, Braille lettering next to certain controls on the remote - c for channel up/down, v for volume up/down and p for the power button. -
The Sony Android offering I have in my lounge is a real boom but not for everyone.
I have to accept that I’m a power tech user and that’s probably why I really like the Sony as - running the Android operating system - all sorts of possibilities are at my fingertips -.
I do appreciate that people wouldn’t be too interested in an Android Television so that brings us back to your set and my Samsung 2011 19-inch Television.

On 7 May 2019, at 4:23 am, Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:

I wonder, why then, they could use "talk back," unless they bought a license to use it, or have some kind of other rights to use it or call their access "talk back." :) Well, as soon as I get a sighted person in here I'll definitely be checking that out. I won the TV in a raffle, so didn't decide on model number or access potential, that is just a bonus.

I'll definitely keep you all posted and I definitely appreciate you all helping me get out of the darkness with regard to this TV and what speakers, etc. to use.

Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA

On 5/6/2019 10:37 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
I’ve been looking at the manual again.
Unfortunately the specifications don’t say what OS the TV is running and there is no mention of Android so - as it appears to me - the Television isn’t an Android set so therefore - and the manual sort of confirms this - the Talk Back access you have is only for adjustments of settings and not much else if anything at all so therefore Talk Back is just a name given to the feature it seems rather than actually being the Android Talk Back Screen Reader App itself as you can install or see on Android devices.
It is exciting enough to be able to adjust settings and whether your TV is Android or not may not bother you and fair enough, after all you do buy a Television for the audio and sound I would imagine.
The Talk Back only seems to be in English and that wouldn’t be the case if the Television was Android as you would be able to use or install Talkback to your own language preference.
Some other notes I made.
The Television talks about its “Smart Cast” capabilities which sound nice but don’t be at all surprised if you can’t access these via speech.
There is no mention of DLNA compatibility, Google Cast compatibility etc in the manual that I can find so I would like to assume that these functions are part of your Smart Television and I sincerely hop that my assumption is right.
Good luck with all of that and keep us informed as to how you’re going, what system you end up connecting etc.


On 6 May 2019, at 10:30 pm, Matthew Chao via Groups.Io <mattchao=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:

So, you have an Android SmartTv. Should be relatively easy once you get TalkBack going. Good luck.--Matt, N1IBB.



On 5/6/2019 1:48 AM, Curtis Delzer wrote:
Now I have read the manual and there is a way to make the RCA output from the TV, variable, just a matter of turning it on from the menus. Also, there is a way to turn on speech in the accessibility menu, and according to the manual all of it will then speak. That is quite exciting, so what I need to know is, are there any others of the Vizio TV on this list who have turned on the speech and just using what is available from within the unit, able to manage all menus and options? What they always forget is that there is no way that someone without sight can get to the menu and turn on the speech, and I hear it is "talk back," so I wonder how it sounds. I just have to get a sighted person over here and to play with my remote and see. :)
So, thanks all who have chimed in and helped me, explaining much and perusing the manual, etc.
Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA
On 5/4/2019 10:28 AM, Curtis Delzer wrote:
Hi! Last week about this time I won a 50 inch 4K ultra Vizio smart TV, and need some speakers. We don't need surround sound just simple and sounding good. I think the back of the TV has RCA jacks for audio, but the output is not variable from them so I suppose there should be a remote which can be then handled by the main remote for volume from the cable box. We have Spectrum out here, so the cable box now talks. So please, suggest what you recommend I buy. My wife is getting impatient, :) (sort of) but we wish something decent sounding which I know you guys understand. :)

THANKS and please believe me, I sort of feel in a void as to what to look for, and where to find it. Amazon is good for us.

Re: Soundbars

Tom Kaufman
 

I've entertained the idea of getting a soundbar for the TV in my living room; problem is that (at least I think) since I have a satellite dish receiver hooked to that TV, I'd need a way to plug it into two different things! Here's the thing: I get my local programming via the outside antenna. But for the other stuff, there's where the satellite receiver comes in! So if I were to get a soundbar, how would that work out...or would that even matter?
Keep in mind that I know next to nothing about these soundbars and how the operate!
Tom Kaufman

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2019 2:46 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: [all-audio] Sooundbars

I’m glad we’re talking about this actually as I’m planning on a Soundbar purchase for later this year.
I took the opportunity of looking up “Best Soundbars of 2019” and was most interested to see that the Denon Heosbar rates very highly it seems.
I do have some Heos products already - the Denon AVR-X3400H, Heos 7 and Heos 1 - so the addition of the Heosbar makes perfect sense as I already have the infra structure in place to drive the equipment.


On 6 May 2019, at 1:00 pm, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

h just so ya know HDMI 1 is the 1 we are interested in here. That's the 1 that has ARC. But and I forget now the other name of something else Visio TVs will want you to turn on as well. We delt with this because mom got a few mother's days ago a smart TV.
On 5/5/2019 10:05 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote:

Hi, and thanks for looking. I can not find any earphone output on the front surface of the set, so if it is there, it is well hidden. The only

HDMI connectors I find are on the back, and the HDMI
are in a line from bottom to top number 1 2 and 3.
take care and thanks again for all the help.

Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA

On 5/5/2019 5:07 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
The optical digital output socket should be on the rear of your set.
It seems there’s an analogue 3.5MM socket on the front of the set for headphones.
The manual is a little confusing so I can’t say for sure what other sockets are on the rear of the Television apart fro at least 1 hDMI input - also on the front -, an LAN port and the power socket.


On 6 May 2019, at 9:49 am, Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:

Hi, I gave you not quite the correct model.

D50X-G9

thanks Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA

On 5/5/2019 1:54 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
The Optical Digital connector looks different from other connectors.
Its a square connector and in some cases may be covered by a flap which opens when an optical connector itself is inserted, much like the old car cassette players we used opened when a cassette was pushed against the flap.
The Optical out jack could also possibly take the form of a 3.5MM minijack, this arrangement is used to provide both analogue and digital audio out form the same jack.


On 6 May 2019, at 6:49 am, Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:

I found the light on the back of the TV close to the other connectors, is that the optical digital connector for audio? This is a technology I am totally not familiar with, so I wish to learn! I expect that in some ways it is kind of like Bluetooth? just speculating as to how it connects to speakers or is it somewhat like an infrared connection to remotes where any interaction with the lights . . .

anyway, thanks guys for your patience with me in all this.


Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA

On 5/5/2019 8:37 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
So there we are, that’s the first I’ve ever heard of a TV having a HDMI out and obviously some do however the more common standard for audio is an optical out and at least one HDMI input, I’m willing to bet that the tV we’re discussing has at least and possibly more.
So the idea being that the TV is connected for audio purposes to the Soundbar or speaker system with an Optical Digital cable.
That way - if required - the soundbar/speakers can get extra effects that Digital TV now offers.


On 6 May 2019, at 1:32 am, Howard Traxler <howard@...> wrote:

We have a Sony TV that we got a little over three years ago. The installers gave me an HDMI cable (looks home made) with RCA male jacks on the other end. I plug them into my stereo auxilary inputs and, of course, have window-rattling speakers on the other end.. The three RCA females on the TV are for input only. Other ways of input are through HDMI connections.


<HT>

On 5/4/2019 8:41 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote:
Well this is suppose to be a top-of-the-line Vizio 4k 50-inch ultra smart TV, so it's connection should be top-of-the-line and conform to state-of-the-art.)

Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA

On 5/4/2019 4:48 PM, Matthew Chas via Groups.Io wrote:
I have a Sony soundbar that uses digital/audio or Toslink cable. That's where most TVs and soundbars are heading these days.--Matt, N1IBB.



On 5/4/2019 6:06 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Oh and as a footnote.
Most Soundbars as far as I know take a digital audio feed from your Televisions so your Television will more than likely have at least a digital audio output.


On 5 May 2019, at 7:36 am, Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:

thanks, these "sound bars," as such, the name confuses me, is it confined to a small area like a bar meaning length of the bar, or would you define it? Seems the TV has analog outputs, but they are RCA and don't change with the TV volume, other wise it'd be easy. I don't know if the TV has blue tooth or not. :) thanks

Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA

On 5/4/2019 11:01 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
The first thing you will need to do is to work out whether the TV has a digital or analogue out.
Then perhaps go looking for a Soundbar.
These are quite cheap now and no, we???re not talking about surround sound necessarily unless you really want that.
I???ve seen 2.1 channel soundboards about the place which work quite well.
The other option might be getting something like a Key Egg system which is effectively a small bookshelf system so you could put each speaker on either side of the television.


On 5 May 2019, at 3:28 am, Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:

Hi! Last week about this time I won a 50 inch 4K ultra Vizio smart TV, and need some speakers. We don't need surround sound just simple and sounding good. I think the back of the TV has RCA jacks for audio, but the output is not variable from them so I suppose there should be a remote which can be then handled by the main remote for volume from the cable box. We have Spectrum out here, so the cable box now talks. So please, suggest what you recommend I buy. My wife is getting impatient, :) (sort of) but we wish something decent sounding which I know you guys understand. :)

THANKS and please believe me, I sort of feel in a void as to what to look for, and where to find it. Amazon is good for us.

--


Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA





Re: Soundbars

Dane Trethowan
 

There wouldn’t be a huge problem.
You would connect your Television to one of the inputs of your Soundbar and connect your Satellite box to another.
In the case of the Denon Heosbar you have 4 HDMI inputs to choose from and your own Televison may have more than one input but not all do so you will have to do a little research before you buy.

On 7 May 2019, at 7:08 am, Tom Kaufman <tomcat53@...> wrote:

I've entertained the idea of getting a soundbar for the TV in my living room; problem is that (at least I think) since I have a satellite dish receiver hooked to that TV, I'd need a way to plug it into two different things! Here's the thing: I get my local programming via the outside antenna. But for the other stuff, there's where the satellite receiver comes in! So if I were to get a soundbar, how would that work out...or would that even matter?
Keep in mind that I know next to nothing about these soundbars and how the operate!
Tom Kaufman

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2019 2:46 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: [all-audio] Sooundbars

I’m glad we’re talking about this actually as I’m planning on a Soundbar purchase for later this year.
I took the opportunity of looking up “Best Soundbars of 2019” and was most interested to see that the Denon Heosbar rates very highly it seems.
I do have some Heos products already - the Denon AVR-X3400H, Heos 7 and Heos 1 - so the addition of the Heosbar makes perfect sense as I already have the infra structure in place to drive the equipment.


On 6 May 2019, at 1:00 pm, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:

h just so ya know HDMI 1 is the 1 we are interested in here. That's the 1 that has ARC. But and I forget now the other name of something else Visio TVs will want you to turn on as well. We delt with this because mom got a few mother's days ago a smart TV.
On 5/5/2019 10:05 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote:

Hi, and thanks for looking. I can not find any earphone output on the front surface of the set, so if it is there, it is well hidden. The only

HDMI connectors I find are on the back, and the HDMI
are in a line from bottom to top number 1 2 and 3.
take care and thanks again for all the help.

Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA

On 5/5/2019 5:07 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
The optical digital output socket should be on the rear of your set.
It seems there’s an analogue 3.5MM socket on the front of the set for headphones.
The manual is a little confusing so I can’t say for sure what other sockets are on the rear of the Television apart fro at least 1 hDMI input - also on the front -, an LAN port and the power socket.


On 6 May 2019, at 9:49 am, Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:

Hi, I gave you not quite the correct model.

D50X-G9

thanks Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA

On 5/5/2019 1:54 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
The Optical Digital connector looks different from other connectors.
Its a square connector and in some cases may be covered by a flap which opens when an optical connector itself is inserted, much like the old car cassette players we used opened when a cassette was pushed against the flap.
The Optical out jack could also possibly take the form of a 3.5MM minijack, this arrangement is used to provide both analogue and digital audio out form the same jack.


On 6 May 2019, at 6:49 am, Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:

I found the light on the back of the TV close to the other connectors, is that the optical digital connector for audio? This is a technology I am totally not familiar with, so I wish to learn! I expect that in some ways it is kind of like Bluetooth? just speculating as to how it connects to speakers or is it somewhat like an infrared connection to remotes where any interaction with the lights . . .

anyway, thanks guys for your patience with me in all this.


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On 5/5/2019 8:37 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
So there we are, that’s the first I’ve ever heard of a TV having a HDMI out and obviously some do however the more common standard for audio is an optical out and at least one HDMI input, I’m willing to bet that the tV we’re discussing has at least and possibly more.
So the idea being that the TV is connected for audio purposes to the Soundbar or speaker system with an Optical Digital cable.
That way - if required - the soundbar/speakers can get extra effects that Digital TV now offers.


On 6 May 2019, at 1:32 am, Howard Traxler <howard@...> wrote:

We have a Sony TV that we got a little over three years ago. The installers gave me an HDMI cable (looks home made) with RCA male jacks on the other end. I plug them into my stereo auxilary inputs and, of course, have window-rattling speakers on the other end.. The three RCA females on the TV are for input only. Other ways of input are through HDMI connections.


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On 5/4/2019 8:41 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote:
Well this is suppose to be a top-of-the-line Vizio 4k 50-inch ultra smart TV, so it's connection should be top-of-the-line and conform to state-of-the-art.)

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On 5/4/2019 4:48 PM, Matthew Chas via Groups.Io wrote:
I have a Sony soundbar that uses digital/audio or Toslink cable. That's where most TVs and soundbars are heading these days.--Matt, N1IBB.



On 5/4/2019 6:06 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Oh and as a footnote.
Most Soundbars as far as I know take a digital audio feed from your Televisions so your Television will more than likely have at least a digital audio output.


On 5 May 2019, at 7:36 am, Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:

thanks, these "sound bars," as such, the name confuses me, is it confined to a small area like a bar meaning length of the bar, or would you define it? Seems the TV has analog outputs, but they are RCA and don't change with the TV volume, other wise it'd be easy. I don't know if the TV has blue tooth or not. :) thanks

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On 5/4/2019 11:01 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
The first thing you will need to do is to work out whether the TV has a digital or analogue out.
Then perhaps go looking for a Soundbar.
These are quite cheap now and no, we???re not talking about surround sound necessarily unless you really want that.
I???ve seen 2.1 channel soundboards about the place which work quite well.
The other option might be getting something like a Key Egg system which is effectively a small bookshelf system so you could put each speaker on either side of the television.


On 5 May 2019, at 3:28 am, Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:

Hi! Last week about this time I won a 50 inch 4K ultra Vizio smart TV, and need some speakers. We don't need surround sound just simple and sounding good. I think the back of the TV has RCA jacks for audio, but the output is not variable from them so I suppose there should be a remote which can be then handled by the main remote for volume from the cable box. We have Spectrum out here, so the cable box now talks. So please, suggest what you recommend I buy. My wife is getting impatient, :) (sort of) but we wish something decent sounding which I know you guys understand. :)

THANKS and please believe me, I sort of feel in a void as to what to look for, and where to find it. Amazon is good for us.

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