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Re: Notes on Twistedwave App

Anders Holmberg
 

Hi!
Maybe will buy that app.
I use amadeus pro and so far i do like that.
/A

1 maj 2019 kl. 00:45 skrev Dane Trethowan <grtdane@...>:

Hi,
I wrote to the list some weeks ago regarding the truly excellent Twistedwave audio production tool for Mac OS.
I’ve since settled in to using the Twistedwave App full- time without problems and its a simple case of the more I use the software then the more I discover hence this update.
I discovered two Twistedwave Apps on the IOS Apps Store, Twistedwave or TW Recorder and Twistedwave Remote.
TW Recorder is a fully featured recorder for IOS which is truly accessible.
TW Recorder is free but you do have to pay for the option to export files to different formats which costs $5.
Exporting allows you to save your recordings in whatever format you choose - FLAC is supported -. After saving your recordings you have multiple sharing options available including the ability to upload to your favourite Cloud service.
Simple editing of audio recordings can be performed with TW Recorder and markers/selections can be manipulated.
Twistedwave Remote allows remote control of the Twistedwave Mac OS App on your IOS device and again all buttons are accessible.
I wrote to the developer of the Apps congratulating them on the excellent work down here and hope that others who decide to use the Twistedwave Apps enjoy using them as much as I do and send the developer feedback.



Re: Has Anybody Tried Sound Forge 13?

Curtis Delzer
 

agree, I bought 12 and 13 together as an upgrade package this year for $199, but what can we do? Like you I've been using it since probably when it was Sonic Foundry 4.5 and then Sony 5.0? :)

I even did use it in windows 98 when it would do all kinds of weird things if you tried to do anything else with the processor.

 Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA

On 5/3/2019 7:28 AM, Steve Jacobson wrote:
As some of you know, Sound Forge is now owned by Magix, and they are very, very aggressive about their upgrades. In addition, their upgrade pricing is pretty high even if you respond to their upgrade offer. For example, there is currently a limited time upgrade from version 12 to 13 for $199. However, they are advertising changes to the interface to let one customize the interface more. This could mean there are possibilities to tailor it to one's advantage, or they could have changed their interface in such a way as to make it less accessible. Has anybody tried this yet? I do get some frustrated with promises in new versions of Sound Forge that don't seem to benefit me but I have upgraded to take advantage of what I feel are nothing more than bug fixes. Yet, I do like the program and I've used it so long that I don't really want to change yet.

I would appreciate any thoughts.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson



Re: Has Anybody Tried Sound Forge 13?

Curtis Delzer
 

do you know how much the subscription service is?

Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA

On 5/3/2019 8:00 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Yep that pretty much sums up my view on the subject <smile>
I’m extremely thankful that the price of sound Forge - and upgrades - has dropped significantly over the 20 years I’ve known the product which is a huge benefit to all.
Magix also offer a subscription service for Sound Forge Pro if people would prefer.
The subscription service has some great advantages the most obvious being that you are always running the latest version of Sound Forge on your Windows machine.


On 4 May 2019, at 12:53 am, Steve Jacobson <steve.jacobson@...> wrote:

Dane,

I guess you are saying in a better way what I was trying to say. I was happy with the upgrade to Sound Forge 12, but much of the advertised improvements either were not relevant to me or I did not find to be very usable. What I have always done could still be done, and I definitely experienced some performance gains. I suppose I should just upgrade so that if something changes in Windows that is not compatible I have the latest version.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
Sent: Friday, May 3, 2019 9:38 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Has Anybody Tried Sound Forge 13?

I’m just getting over the shock of Sound Forge 12 <smile>
For $199 I’d be happy to upgrade to Sound Forge 13, if I can continue using the app the way it is now then I’ll be perfectly happy as I am with 12.
12 was a huge leap forward as far as I’m concerned.
Not so much for accessibility and usability though everything I had used previously seems to work.
All the bugs and stability issues seem to have been resolved in the rewrite and the programme runs noticeably faster so I’m now getting the sort of performance with Sound Forge 12 for Windows that I am getting - and have always had - with the Mac version of Sound Forge.
And should Sound Forge ever become inaccessible or to the point of being totally unusable by those without sight? Well thankfully I have great alternatives here that I have made myself learn and use if such events do happen.
The world of technology changes constantly so what works today may not work tomorrow.
One of my favourite things about Sound Forge is the ability to edit/navigate by sample if desired.
I’m sure there are other packages around that do this but Sound Forge for Windows and Mac is one of a few where sample navigation and editing is completely accessible.
Twistedwave is another package which has very useable sample navigation and editing.


On 4 May 2019, at 12:28 am, Steve Jacobson <steve.jacobson@...> wrote:

As some of you know, Sound Forge is now owned by Magix, and they are very, very aggressive about their upgrades. In addition, their upgrade pricing is pretty high even if you respond to their upgrade offer. For example, there is currently a limited time upgrade from version 12 to 13 for $199. However, they are advertising changes to the interface to let one customize the interface more. This could mean there are possibilities to tailor it to one's advantage, or they could have changed their interface in such a way as to make it less accessible. Has anybody tried this yet? I do get some frustrated with promises in new versions of Sound Forge that don't seem to benefit me but I have upgraded to take advantage of what I feel are nothing more than bug fixes. Yet, I do like the program and I've used it so long that I don't really want to change yet.

I would appreciate any thoughts.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson










Re: Olympus DM7 digital voice recorder

Hamit Campos
 

Hay, at least give the thing a few recordings of a chance. Maybe it didn't work for Dain but who knows how you'll find it. lol I can't comment much cause I've only heard of the number but I don't even know if I've heard 1. Also don't know if it's even American. I know Olympus has some different moddles in different places. But yeah give it some chances. Just see. I've never even heard of that CL line you meantioned. How good were those? Where does the CL line fall in? Are they consumer or more prosumer like the LS ones supposedly are? Though the most pro they've gone is the 100. Oh and speak of the devil, it looks like it's back. Unless B&H hasn't gotten rid of their page for it. But the page says in stock. So either they haven't fixed the page or it's indeed back.

On 5/3/2019 1:00 PM, Andy via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi Dane.

I'm sorry to hear what you say because I've previously owned the CL 10 and the CL 14, I think that was what they were called and I had simply thought that the DM7 would have been of the same calibre.

I've not even received it yet to have a go, and after what you have said, I may well sell it straight away for a reduced price.

Thanks.

Very best wishes.

Andy.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan" <grtdane@...>
To: <all-audio@groups.io>
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2019 5:50 PM
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Olympus DM7 digital voice recorder


No problem with purchasing another recorder and you’re absolutely right, its not always convenient to use a Zoom H6, Zoom F8N etc to make that recording conveniently on the spur of the moment.
I’m sorry I can’t help you with your Olympus DM7.
I did have one of those machines but only for a very short of time as I absolutely hated it, the worst ever Olympus recorder I’ve seen apart from the LS-100.
The above is only my opinion and I’m in no doubt that there will be list members who will quite rightly tell me what a wonderful recorder the DM7 actually is but.. we.. the DM7 recorder is something I just didn’t warm to in the time I had it.


On 2 May 2019, at 5:58 pm, Andy via Groups.Io <meikle.aiden=btinternet.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hi all.

It's daft I know, what with being the proud owner of the Zoom H6 and F8n, but I purchased a second hand Olympus DM7 digital voice recorder.

Both Zooms are rather bulky for some recording items out of doors and I wanted something that I coould put in a pocket.

I've got the instructions booklet, which is of no help to me and I was wondering if perhaps Neal Ewars had covered this device.

Perhaps there is another list member who has an audio tutorial or as I said, anything from Neal.

I've tried the old faverate of "Accessible Youtube", but I could only find one file from Olympus themselfs, which are of little support also.

Please assist if you can my friends.

Very best wishes.

Andy.







Re: Olympus DM7 digital voice recorder

Dane Trethowan
 

You may think differently about the recorder than I do as everyone has their likes and dislikes.
I myself didn’t like the DM7 but that’s just me so fully explore the recorder when you get it so you can make up your own mind.
Only my opinion again, the best Olympus recorder available today I’ve played with is the LS-P4 which is indeed a very handy little recorder and does far more than one would expect from a recorder of this size.
No, the LS-P4 doesn’t have some of the facilities that the such as a built-in Screen Reader of sorts that the DM7 does but we are talking recorders after all.

On 4 May 2019, at 3:00 am, Andy via Groups.Io <meikle.aiden=btinternet.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hi Dane.

I'm sorry to hear what you say because I've previously owned the CL 10 and the CL 14, I think that was what they were called and I had simply thought that the DM7 would have been of the same calibre.

I've not even received it yet to have a go, and after what you have said, I may well sell it straight away for a reduced price.

Thanks.

Very best wishes.

Andy.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan" <grtdane@...>
To: <all-audio@groups.io>
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2019 5:50 PM
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Olympus DM7 digital voice recorder


No problem with purchasing another recorder and you’re absolutely right, its not always convenient to use a Zoom H6, Zoom F8N etc to make that recording conveniently on the spur of the moment.
I’m sorry I can’t help you with your Olympus DM7.
I did have one of those machines but only for a very short of time as I absolutely hated it, the worst ever Olympus recorder I’ve seen apart from the LS-100.
The above is only my opinion and I’m in no doubt that there will be list members who will quite rightly tell me what a wonderful recorder the DM7 actually is but.. we.. the DM7 recorder is something I just didn’t warm to in the time I had it.


On 2 May 2019, at 5:58 pm, Andy via Groups.Io <meikle.aiden=btinternet.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hi all.

It's daft I know, what with being the proud owner of the Zoom H6 and F8n, but I purchased a second hand Olympus DM7 digital voice recorder.

Both Zooms are rather bulky for some recording items out of doors and I wanted something that I coould put in a pocket.

I've got the instructions booklet, which is of no help to me and I was wondering if perhaps Neal Ewars had covered this device.

Perhaps there is another list member who has an audio tutorial or as I said, anything from Neal.

I've tried the old faverate of "Accessible Youtube", but I could only find one file from Olympus themselfs, which are of little support also.

Please assist if you can my friends.

Very best wishes.

Andy.








Re: Notes on Twistedwave App

Dane Trethowan
 

Twistedwave can be bought from the web site or from the Mac Apps store. The Twistedwave IOS Apps can be found in the IOS Apps store.
Amadeus Pro is a very nice editor and it may be that you will find Twistedwave an easier editor to use so try it for yourself.

On 4 May 2019, at 3:28 am, Anders Holmberg <anders@...> wrote:

Hi!
Maybe will buy that app.
I use amadeus pro and so far i do like that.
/A

1 maj 2019 kl. 00:45 skrev Dane Trethowan <grtdane@...>:

Hi,
I wrote to the list some weeks ago regarding the truly excellent Twistedwave audio production tool for Mac OS.
I’ve since settled in to using the Twistedwave App full- time without problems and its a simple case of the more I use the software then the more I discover hence this update.
I discovered two Twistedwave Apps on the IOS Apps Store, Twistedwave or TW Recorder and Twistedwave Remote.
TW Recorder is a fully featured recorder for IOS which is truly accessible.
TW Recorder is free but you do have to pay for the option to export files to different formats which costs $5.
Exporting allows you to save your recordings in whatever format you choose - FLAC is supported -. After saving your recordings you have multiple sharing options available including the ability to upload to your favourite Cloud service.
Simple editing of audio recordings can be performed with TW Recorder and markers/selections can be manipulated.
Twistedwave Remote allows remote control of the Twistedwave Mac OS App on your IOS device and again all buttons are accessible.
I wrote to the developer of the Apps congratulating them on the excellent work down here and hope that others who decide to use the Twistedwave Apps enjoy using them as much as I do and send the developer feedback.





Re: Olympus DM7 digital voice recorder

Hamit Campos
 

Ah so the DM-7 was kinda like the 4. Well what did it sound like anyways Dain? The 4 was meh a DM. What evs. But again that's just Hamiht. That's just me wanting studio audio. Which stuff like the H5 and H6 indeed give you. Now the F stuff gets you right next door to super duper almost Sound Devices audio. Meh could have gotten the DM 4 but meh the sound does sound a little bit to mini me for my liking. You especially without the omni can hear it's little. I was tempted by the fact it can do FLAC. Cause I do need a FLAC player. I also skiped on it because of the whole XLR and phantum power thing. I wanted to use my Audio-Technica AT-8022 to it's full potential.

On 5/3/2019 3:01 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
You may think differently about the recorder than I do as everyone has their likes and dislikes.
I myself didn’t like the DM7 but that’s just me so fully explore the recorder when you get it so you can make up your own mind.
Only my opinion again, the best Olympus recorder available today I’ve played with is the LS-P4 which is indeed a very handy little recorder and does far more than one would expect from a recorder of this size.
No, the LS-P4 doesn’t have some of the facilities that the such as a built-in Screen Reader of sorts that the DM7 does but we are talking recorders after all.


On 4 May 2019, at 3:00 am, Andy via Groups.Io <meikle.aiden=btinternet.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hi Dane.

I'm sorry to hear what you say because I've previously owned the CL 10 and the CL 14, I think that was what they were called and I had simply thought that the DM7 would have been of the same calibre.

I've not even received it yet to have a go, and after what you have said, I may well sell it straight away for a reduced price.

Thanks.

Very best wishes.

Andy.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan" <grtdane@...>
To: <all-audio@groups.io>
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2019 5:50 PM
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Olympus DM7 digital voice recorder


No problem with purchasing another recorder and you’re absolutely right, its not always convenient to use a Zoom H6, Zoom F8N etc to make that recording conveniently on the spur of the moment.
I’m sorry I can’t help you with your Olympus DM7.
I did have one of those machines but only for a very short of time as I absolutely hated it, the worst ever Olympus recorder I’ve seen apart from the LS-100.
The above is only my opinion and I’m in no doubt that there will be list members who will quite rightly tell me what a wonderful recorder the DM7 actually is but.. we.. the DM7 recorder is something I just didn’t warm to in the time I had it.


On 2 May 2019, at 5:58 pm, Andy via Groups.Io <meikle.aiden=btinternet.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hi all.

It's daft I know, what with being the proud owner of the Zoom H6 and F8n, but I purchased a second hand Olympus DM7 digital voice recorder.

Both Zooms are rather bulky for some recording items out of doors and I wanted something that I coould put in a pocket.

I've got the instructions booklet, which is of no help to me and I was wondering if perhaps Neal Ewars had covered this device.

Perhaps there is another list member who has an audio tutorial or as I said, anything from Neal.

I've tried the old faverate of "Accessible Youtube", but I could only find one file from Olympus themselfs, which are of little support also.

Please assist if you can my friends.

Very best wishes.

Andy.







TV speakers.

Curtis Delzer
 

Hi! Last week about this time I won a 50 inch 4K ultra Vizio smart TV, and need some speakers. We don't need surround sound just simple and sounding good. I think the back of the TV has RCA jacks for audio, but the output is not variable from them so I suppose there should be a remote which can be then handled by the main remote for volume from the cable box. We have Spectrum out here, so the cable box now talks. So please, suggest what you recommend I buy. My wife is getting impatient, :) (sort of) but we wish something decent sounding which I know you guys understand. :)

THANKS and please believe me, I sort of feel in a void as to what to look for, and where to find it. Amazon is good for us.

--


Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA

Re: TV speakers.

Dane Trethowan
 

The first thing you will need to do is to work out whether the TV has a digital or analogue out.
Then perhaps go looking for a Soundbar.
These are quite cheap now and no, we’re not talking about surround sound necessarily unless you really want that.
I’ve seen 2.1 channel soundboards about the place which work quite well.
The other option might be getting something like a Key Egg system which is effectively a small bookshelf system so you could put each speaker on either side of the television.

On 5 May 2019, at 3:28 am, Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:

Hi! Last week about this time I won a 50 inch 4K ultra Vizio smart TV, and need some speakers. We don't need surround sound just simple and sounding good. I think the back of the TV has RCA jacks for audio, but the output is not variable from them so I suppose there should be a remote which can be then handled by the main remote for volume from the cable box. We have Spectrum out here, so the cable box now talks. So please, suggest what you recommend I buy. My wife is getting impatient, :) (sort of) but we wish something decent sounding which I know you guys understand. :)

THANKS and please believe me, I sort of feel in a void as to what to look for, and where to find it. Amazon is good for us.

--


Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA



Re: TV speakers.

Curtis Delzer
 

thanks, these "sound bars," as such, the name confuses me, is it confined to a small area like a bar meaning length of the bar, or would you define it? Seems the TV has analog outputs, but they are RCA and don't change with the TV volume, other wise it'd be easy. I don't know if the TV has blue tooth or not. :) thanks

Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA

On 5/4/2019 11:01 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
The first thing you will need to do is to work out whether the TV has a digital or analogue out.
Then perhaps go looking for a Soundbar.
These are quite cheap now and no, we’re not talking about surround sound necessarily unless you really want that.
I’ve seen 2.1 channel soundboards about the place which work quite well.
The other option might be getting something like a Key Egg system which is effectively a small bookshelf system so you could put each speaker on either side of the television.


On 5 May 2019, at 3:28 am, Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:

Hi! Last week about this time I won a 50 inch 4K ultra Vizio smart TV, and need some speakers. We don't need surround sound just simple and sounding good. I think the back of the TV has RCA jacks for audio, but the output is not variable from them so I suppose there should be a remote which can be then handled by the main remote for volume from the cable box. We have Spectrum out here, so the cable box now talks. So please, suggest what you recommend I buy. My wife is getting impatient, :) (sort of) but we wish something decent sounding which I know you guys understand. :)

THANKS and please believe me, I sort of feel in a void as to what to look for, and where to find it. Amazon is good for us.

--


Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA



Re: TV speakers.

Dane Trethowan
 

The Soundbar is usually a unit the TV sits on though there may be other configurations depending on what you want, how much space you have etc.
I’m will be purchasing a Soundbar for the Den and I plan to go out and have a look at a few models.
As far as analogue outputs go on your Television? You’re really going to need signed assistance to confirm that.
The sockets could be anything, Composite video in or out, Component video in or out and perhaps audio line in or out.

On 5 May 2019, at 7:36 am, Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:

thanks, these "sound bars," as such, the name confuses me, is it confined to a small area like a bar meaning length of the bar, or would you define it? Seems the TV has analog outputs, but they are RCA and don't change with the TV volume, other wise it'd be easy. I don't know if the TV has blue tooth or not. :) thanks

Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA

On 5/4/2019 11:01 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
The first thing you will need to do is to work out whether the TV has a digital or analogue out.
Then perhaps go looking for a Soundbar.
These are quite cheap now and no, we’re not talking about surround sound necessarily unless you really want that.
I’ve seen 2.1 channel soundboards about the place which work quite well.
The other option might be getting something like a Key Egg system which is effectively a small bookshelf system so you could put each speaker on either side of the television.


On 5 May 2019, at 3:28 am, Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:

Hi! Last week about this time I won a 50 inch 4K ultra Vizio smart TV, and need some speakers. We don't need surround sound just simple and sounding good. I think the back of the TV has RCA jacks for audio, but the output is not variable from them so I suppose there should be a remote which can be then handled by the main remote for volume from the cable box. We have Spectrum out here, so the cable box now talks. So please, suggest what you recommend I buy. My wife is getting impatient, :) (sort of) but we wish something decent sounding which I know you guys understand. :)

THANKS and please believe me, I sort of feel in a void as to what to look for, and where to find it. Amazon is good for us.

--


Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA




Re: TV speakers.

Dane Trethowan
 

Oh and as a footnote.
Most Soundbars as far as I know take a digital audio feed from your Televisions so your Television will more than likely have at least a digital audio output.

On 5 May 2019, at 7:36 am, Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:

thanks, these "sound bars," as such, the name confuses me, is it confined to a small area like a bar meaning length of the bar, or would you define it? Seems the TV has analog outputs, but they are RCA and don't change with the TV volume, other wise it'd be easy. I don't know if the TV has blue tooth or not. :) thanks

Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA

On 5/4/2019 11:01 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
The first thing you will need to do is to work out whether the TV has a digital or analogue out.
Then perhaps go looking for a Soundbar.
These are quite cheap now and no, we’re not talking about surround sound necessarily unless you really want that.
I’ve seen 2.1 channel soundboards about the place which work quite well.
The other option might be getting something like a Key Egg system which is effectively a small bookshelf system so you could put each speaker on either side of the television.


On 5 May 2019, at 3:28 am, Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:

Hi! Last week about this time I won a 50 inch 4K ultra Vizio smart TV, and need some speakers. We don't need surround sound just simple and sounding good. I think the back of the TV has RCA jacks for audio, but the output is not variable from them so I suppose there should be a remote which can be then handled by the main remote for volume from the cable box. We have Spectrum out here, so the cable box now talks. So please, suggest what you recommend I buy. My wife is getting impatient, :) (sort of) but we wish something decent sounding which I know you guys understand. :)

THANKS and please believe me, I sort of feel in a void as to what to look for, and where to find it. Amazon is good for us.

--


Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA




i hope this is the right place for the advice i need

dennis
 

i have a blaze ET and it won't play i-heart radio stations and won't download i-heart podcasts. does the victor reader do these things or does it have the same problem. any oppinion or help on this would be greatly appriciated.

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Re: TV speakers.

Matthew Chao
 

Can you Google the model of your TV and get the specs from there?--Matt, N1IBB.

On 5/4/2019 5:36 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote:
thanks, these "sound bars," as such, the name confuses me, is it confined to a small area like a bar meaning length of the bar, or would you define it? Seems the TV has analog outputs, but they are RCA and don't change with the TV volume, other wise it'd be easy. I don't know if the TV has blue tooth or not. :) thanks
Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA
On 5/4/2019 11:01 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
The first thing you will need to do is to work out whether the TV has a digital or analogue out.
Then perhaps go looking for a Soundbar.
These are quite cheap now and no, we???re not talking about surround sound necessarily unless you really want that.
I???ve seen 2.1 channel soundboards about the place which work quite well.
The other option might be getting something like a Key Egg system which is effectively a small bookshelf system so you could put each speaker on either side of the television.


On 5 May 2019, at 3:28 am, Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:

Hi! Last week about this time I won a 50 inch 4K ultra Vizio smart TV, and need some speakers. We don't need surround sound just simple and sounding good. I think the back of the TV has RCA jacks for audio, but the output is not variable from them so I suppose there should be a remote which can be then handled by the main remote for volume from the cable box. We have Spectrum out here, so the cable box now talks. So please, suggest what you recommend I buy. My wife is getting impatient, :) (sort of) but we wish something decent sounding which I know you guys understand. :)

THANKS and please believe me, I sort of feel in a void as to what to look for, and where to find it. Amazon is good for us.

--


Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA




Re: TV speakers.

Matthew Chao
 

I have a Sony soundbar that uses digital/audio or Toslink cable. That's where most TVs and soundbars are heading these days.--Matt, N1IBB.

On 5/4/2019 6:06 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Oh and as a footnote.
Most Soundbars as far as I know take a digital audio feed from your Televisions so your Television will more than likely have at least a digital audio output.

On 5 May 2019, at 7:36 am, Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:

thanks, these "sound bars," as such, the name confuses me, is it confined to a small area like a bar meaning length of the bar, or would you define it? Seems the TV has analog outputs, but they are RCA and don't change with the TV volume, other wise it'd be easy. I don't know if the TV has blue tooth or not. :) thanks

Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA

On 5/4/2019 11:01 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
The first thing you will need to do is to work out whether the TV has a digital or analogue out.
Then perhaps go looking for a Soundbar.
These are quite cheap now and no, we???re not talking about surround sound necessarily unless you really want that.
I???ve seen 2.1 channel soundboards about the place which work quite well.
The other option might be getting something like a Key Egg system which is effectively a small bookshelf system so you could put each speaker on either side of the television.


On 5 May 2019, at 3:28 am, Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:

Hi! Last week about this time I won a 50 inch 4K ultra Vizio smart TV, and need some speakers. We don't need surround sound just simple and sounding good. I think the back of the TV has RCA jacks for audio, but the output is not variable from them so I suppose there should be a remote which can be then handled by the main remote for volume from the cable box. We have Spectrum out here, so the cable box now talks. So please, suggest what you recommend I buy. My wife is getting impatient, :) (sort of) but we wish something decent sounding which I know you guys understand. :)

THANKS and please believe me, I sort of feel in a void as to what to look for, and where to find it. Amazon is good for us.

--


Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA




Re: TV speakers.

Curtis Delzer
 

hSay, you might give me an idea as to what you buy for your den because our living room is probably smaller than that is. This is a 50 inch TV, so I suppose the length of the bar would at least similarly correspond to the left-to-right measurements of the TV. Again you're talking with someone whom has never seen a sound bar so am a bit fumble-fingers about what it is and how it works. I presume then that the bar handles the highs and connects to a sub woofer. I know that 2 jacks are audio outputs because I connected them to a set of speakers and they work except there is no way to control their volume. There seems to be 3 more RCA jacks which are probably what you suggest. We have plenty of room on top of our "entertainment" center, where the TV is in it's exact center from right to left. :)

SURE APPRECIATE all the help and suggestions.

Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA

On 5/4/2019 3:05 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
The Soundbar is usually a unit the TV sits on though there may be other configurations depending on what you want, how much space you have etc.
I’m will be purchasing a Soundbar for the Den and I plan to go out and have a look at a few models.
As far as analogue outputs go on your Television? You’re really going to need signed assistance to confirm that.
The sockets could be anything, Composite video in or out, Component video in or out and perhaps audio line in or out.


On 5 May 2019, at 7:36 am, Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:

thanks, these "sound bars," as such, the name confuses me, is it confined to a small area like a bar meaning length of the bar, or would you define it? Seems the TV has analog outputs, but they are RCA and don't change with the TV volume, other wise it'd be easy. I don't know if the TV has blue tooth or not. :) thanks

Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA

On 5/4/2019 11:01 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
The first thing you will need to do is to work out whether the TV has a digital or analogue out.
Then perhaps go looking for a Soundbar.
These are quite cheap now and no, we’re not talking about surround sound necessarily unless you really want that.
I’ve seen 2.1 channel soundboards about the place which work quite well.
The other option might be getting something like a Key Egg system which is effectively a small bookshelf system so you could put each speaker on either side of the television.


On 5 May 2019, at 3:28 am, Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:

Hi! Last week about this time I won a 50 inch 4K ultra Vizio smart TV, and need some speakers. We don't need surround sound just simple and sounding good. I think the back of the TV has RCA jacks for audio, but the output is not variable from them so I suppose there should be a remote which can be then handled by the main remote for volume from the cable box. We have Spectrum out here, so the cable box now talks. So please, suggest what you recommend I buy. My wife is getting impatient, :) (sort of) but we wish something decent sounding which I know you guys understand. :)

THANKS and please believe me, I sort of feel in a void as to what to look for, and where to find it. Amazon is good for us.

--


Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA



Re: TV speakers.

Curtis Delzer
 

Well this is suppose to be a top-of-the-line Vizio 4k 50-inch ultra smart TV, so it's connection should be top-of-the-line and conform to state-of-the-art.)

Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA

On 5/4/2019 4:48 PM, Matthew Chas via Groups.Io wrote:
I have a Sony soundbar that uses digital/audio or Toslink cable.  That's where most TVs and soundbars are heading these days.--Matt, N1IBB.



On 5/4/2019 6:06 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Oh and as a footnote.
Most Soundbars as far as I know take a digital audio feed from your Televisions so your Television will more than likely have at least a digital audio output.


On 5 May 2019, at 7:36 am, Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:

thanks, these "sound bars," as such, the name confuses me, is it confined to a small area like a bar meaning length of the bar, or would you define it? Seems the TV has analog outputs, but they are RCA and don't change with the TV volume, other wise it'd be easy. I don't know if the TV has blue tooth or not. :) thanks

Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA

On 5/4/2019 11:01 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
The first thing you will need to do is to work out whether the TV has a digital or analogue out.
Then perhaps go looking for a Soundbar.
These are quite cheap now and no, we???re not talking about surround sound necessarily unless you really want that.
I???ve seen 2.1 channel soundboards about the place which work quite well.
The other option might be getting something like a Key Egg system which is effectively a small bookshelf system so you could put each speaker on either side of the television.


On 5 May 2019, at 3:28 am, Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:

Hi! Last week about this time I won a 50 inch 4K ultra Vizio smart TV, and need some speakers. We don't need surround sound just simple and sounding good. I think the back of the TV has RCA jacks for audio, but the output is not variable from them so I suppose there should be a remote which can be then handled by the main remote for volume from the cable box. We have Spectrum out here, so the cable box now talks. So please, suggest what you recommend I buy. My wife is getting impatient, :) (sort of) but we wish something decent sounding which I know you guys understand. :)

THANKS and please believe me, I sort of feel in a void as to what to look for, and where to find it. Amazon is good for us.

--


Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA







Re: TV speakers.

Dane Trethowan
 

By the sounds of your place perhaps something like the Key Egg speaker system might be useful given you have plenty of room on your entertainment unit.
The Key Egg is a very small but flexible and good sounding bookshelf speaker system.
The flexibility of the Egg system means it can be used for all sorts of audio tasks around the home.
You could put the Key Egg on a desk with your computer using the USB input thus the computer treats the Key egg as a sound card and you thereby get access to full digital crips clear sound.
Connect the Key Egg’s digital input to your Television .
Use the Key Egg with your iPhone or other Bluetooth devices.
The Egg system consists of a left and right speaker wired together with all the inputs and outputs on the rear of the right speaker.
You can even connect a sub-woofer if you want more bass.
I have a Kef Egg system in my Den on my computer desk though I don’t yet have a sub-woofer connected but I’m still amazed at the sound of the Egg system.
Key use drivers which radiate the sound around the room, great stereo sound without any sweet spots so this means that you can wandered around your room and listen in any position you like and you still hear stunning stereo sound.
Yes you pay good money for the Key Egg system but you will be rewarded. Ief like Bowers And Wilkins have been in the speaker game for over 50 years so they know what they’re doing.

On 5 May 2019, at 11:36 am, Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:

hSay, you might give me an idea as to what you buy for your den because our living room is probably smaller than that is. This is a 50 inch TV, so I suppose the length of the bar would at least similarly correspond to the left-to-right measurements of the TV. Again you're talking with someone whom has never seen a sound bar so am a bit fumble-fingers about what it is and how it works. I presume then that the bar handles the highs and connects to a sub woofer. I know that 2 jacks are audio outputs because I connected them to a set of speakers and they work except there is no way to control their volume. There seems to be 3 more RCA jacks which are probably what you suggest. We have plenty of room on top of our "entertainment" center, where the TV is in it's exact center from right to left. :)

SURE APPRECIATE all the help and suggestions.

Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA

On 5/4/2019 3:05 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
The Soundbar is usually a unit the TV sits on though there may be other configurations depending on what you want, how much space you have etc.
I’m will be purchasing a Soundbar for the Den and I plan to go out and have a look at a few models.
As far as analogue outputs go on your Television? You’re really going to need signed assistance to confirm that.
The sockets could be anything, Composite video in or out, Component video in or out and perhaps audio line in or out.


On 5 May 2019, at 7:36 am, Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:

thanks, these "sound bars," as such, the name confuses me, is it confined to a small area like a bar meaning length of the bar, or would you define it? Seems the TV has analog outputs, but they are RCA and don't change with the TV volume, other wise it'd be easy. I don't know if the TV has blue tooth or not. :) thanks

Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA

On 5/4/2019 11:01 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
The first thing you will need to do is to work out whether the TV has a digital or analogue out.
Then perhaps go looking for a Soundbar.
These are quite cheap now and no, we’re not talking about surround sound necessarily unless you really want that.
I’ve seen 2.1 channel soundboards about the place which work quite well.
The other option might be getting something like a Key Egg system which is effectively a small bookshelf system so you could put each speaker on either side of the television.


On 5 May 2019, at 3:28 am, Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:

Hi! Last week about this time I won a 50 inch 4K ultra Vizio smart TV, and need some speakers. We don't need surround sound just simple and sounding good. I think the back of the TV has RCA jacks for audio, but the output is not variable from them so I suppose there should be a remote which can be then handled by the main remote for volume from the cable box. We have Spectrum out here, so the cable box now talks. So please, suggest what you recommend I buy. My wife is getting impatient, :) (sort of) but we wish something decent sounding which I know you guys understand. :)

THANKS and please believe me, I sort of feel in a void as to what to look for, and where to find it. Amazon is good for us.

--


Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA




Re: TV speakers.

Curtis Delzer
 

I'll try that, thanks.

Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA

On 5/4/2019 4:46 PM, Matthew Chao via Groups.Io wrote:
Can you Google the model of your TV and get the specs from there?--Matt, N1IBB.



On 5/4/2019 5:36 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote:
thanks, these "sound bars," as such, the name confuses me, is it confined to a small area like a bar meaning length of the bar, or would you define it? Seems the TV has analog outputs, but they are RCA and don't change with the TV volume, other wise it'd be easy. I don't know if the TV has blue tooth or not. :) thanks

Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA

On 5/4/2019 11:01 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
The first thing you will need to do is to work out whether the TV has a digital or analogue out.
Then perhaps go looking for a Soundbar.
These are quite cheap now and no, we???re not talking about surround sound necessarily unless you really want that.
I???ve seen 2.1 channel soundboards about the place which work quite well.
The other option might be getting something like a Key Egg system which is effectively a small bookshelf system so you could put each speaker on either side of the television.


On 5 May 2019, at 3:28 am, Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:

Hi! Last week about this time I won a 50 inch 4K ultra Vizio smart TV, and need some speakers. We don't need surround sound just simple and sounding good. I think the back of the TV has RCA jacks for audio, but the output is not variable from them so I suppose there should be a remote which can be then handled by the main remote for volume from the cable box. We have Spectrum out here, so the cable box now talks. So please, suggest what you recommend I buy. My wife is getting impatient, :) (sort of) but we wish something decent sounding which I know you guys understand. :)

THANKS and please believe me, I sort of feel in a void as to what to look for, and where to find it. Amazon is good for us.

--


Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA






Re: TV speakers.

pete gurney
 

hi curtis,

i agree with those that say the kef egg are good as i have had these
connected to my computer for a few years and they are really good.
but like you i recently got a large screen tv and wanted something good
to go with it.
after studying as many soundbars and surround systems around in january
which is when i was getting one i came to the conclusion it had to be a
dolby atmos system as this appears to be the future of home cinema sound
systems.
this not only gives you sound from all around you but also gives sound
from above as well so it sounds like your in the middle of the action.
lots of this type of system require you to mount speakers in the ceiling
which i didn't want to do so i then started looking for something that
can do the same thing without mounting that type of ceiling speakers.
i found 2 manufacturers that sold systems with vertual atmos sound
without having to mount ceiling speakers.
they were sony and damson.
every one knows sony but probably most people wont know damson.
damson have invented the smallest dolby atmos surround system in the
world the soundbar, sub woofer, and rear speakers are all wireless and
really small compared to normal soundbars and sub woofers.
and the way they create the over head sound is that they have a small
speaker unit that magnetises
to the top of the soundbar and fires sound up to bounce off the ceiling
to give you the sense of being in the middle of everything.
the sony models do this in a different way.
they have developed what they call their virtical sound engine which
gives off sounds tiny fractions of seconds apart and as they change
those fractions it makes it sound like things are going over and around
your head.
sony have a few of these systems, the ht-x8500 which is just a stand
alone soundbar with small sub woofer built in, the ht-x9000 which comes
i believe as a soundbar with a seporate sub woofer, and the ht-f9 which
is a soundbar with seporate sub woofer plus you can buy wireless rear
speakers as an optional extra.
in the UK the ht-x8500 costs £350 and this one was only released in
january, the ht-x9000 costs £377, and the ht-f9 costs £598 plus an extra
£260 for the optional wireless rear speakers.
all of these have HDMI ARC sockets which your new tv should have the
difference between a standard HDMI and the HDMI ARC socket is that the
ARC one has an audio return channel meaning the HDMI lead connected to
this socket on the soundbar and the tv is the only connection you need
between the 2 as it sends the sound back down the same HDMI lead to feed
the sound to the sound system.
i eventually decided to get the sony system and went for the ht-f9 [at
that time the ht-x8500 hadn't been released].
the reason i went for that one was to be on the cautious side as just
like many years ago when there was betamax and vhs and no one knew who
would win the same can be said about sound now as there is dolby atmos
and dts-x competing for the best sound, but with the sony ht-f9 this
system can work with either type of sound feeds.
both the other sony models can handle both types as well.
the damson model could not handle the dts-x sound.
also the damson method of bouncing sound off the ceiling requires you to
have a completely smooth flat ceiling which i don't have as i have artex
ceilings where theres patterns engraved in them.
the sony also have a virtual dolby atmos button on the remote control
which will simulate over head sounds from non dolby atmos signals.
after having this dolby atmos sound for the last 4 months i wouldn't
want to go back to just stereo or a standard surround sound.
my ht-f9 and the ht-9000 have both wi-fi and bluetooth capability as
well but as far as i can tell the ht-8500 only has bluetooth as i can
find no mention of wi-fi.
if you can visit somewhere that have dolby atmos systems that they can
demonstrate i'm sure you wouldn't want anything else after hearing it.
hope this helps.

pete.