Re: A Few Recordings with my Parabolic System

Hamit Campos

Ah bro I would go for the F8N had I the dough. Yes I'm hearing a lot of nay saying about the F6 mainly menus and Curtis Jud being the only 1 for the next thing buttons and nobs being too mashed together. Dain Jarry you guys conferm. I don't know how big Curtis is hands wise compaired to me so I'd take his word for the nob thing as I've not felt up the F6 even. Actually Andy Neal did go for the F4. This came out either with or before the origenal F8. I'm not sure of the history. I was asking on here if I should jump on it. There are reasons why I want the F6 but over all I just want that almost Sound-Devices sound quality. Ah I too need to replace my PC tower. So can't jump on the F6 and depending on recommendations were it not for this I could also have jumped on Neal's F4 instead. Anyways I digress. I'm glad you're better and always ready to help as I too have the 8022. I have a table stand for mine. Just don't know what brand it is. But yeah there's lots of nay saying about the F6. Everyone agrees on the PCM 192 KHZ sample rate 32 bits floating point bit depth though. That being the key for most of the ones buying it. Including myself. But also I want it for the size and the fact that onlike with the H6 you could pontencially be hands free but for the 8022 because you apparently you can clip it to your belt. Jarry do you have an H6? I think Dain did. How does the F6 compair in size to it? It must some how be some what smaller if you can hook it to your belt. But yes Andy I'm surprised Neal didn't go for the F8N.

On 8/27/2020 3:34 AM, Andy via wrote:
Hi again Hamit.

Sorry I've not been in touch recently, but with the lock down and my poor health, things were looking pretty grim for a while.

So I've bounced back.

Hamit, I'm not getting any opportunities for recording, either indoors or outdoors as a consequents of all these closures.

Just to remind you I've a pair of at 8022's for that Stereo spread you were referring to, a few months ago.  Still need a pir of good table-top stands to hold them.

I'm hoping to use this configuration on both my h6 and f8n.

As they require Phantom power, I need to travel into glasgow to buy an external power adaptor along with a couple of "Erose" adaptors, so I can power both machines.  I think I need to get this set up for 12 to 18 amps.

But I'm hoping to get some help with setting everything up from my Sound Engineer friend who works at BBC Radio Scotland at Pacific Quay.  These microphones are for recording Local pub bands, choirs as well as small travelling opera groups.

Regarding the at 2022,   Now that's completely different. Absolutely no Phantom needed at all.  This is more or less a Binaural system for recording podcasts of walk about's in Glasgow, recording street buskers or most definitely bird calls.

It's taking me a while to get to this level of planning and it's looking very likely that I'll probably not be in a position to record a band, quire or podcast till after Christmas.

I'm just happy to continue buying all the equipment necessary. I've also got 2 new computers so I'm having a good old clean out for winter.

Yes Hamit I'd love to hear my 2 configurations on a few recorders.  Sure the F6 must figure.  But you know, I do't know how I feel about this recorder now.  I'm only hearing very negative comments concerning them.  Nothing like that  what  we heard which came along with the Zoom H6 or Zoom F8n.

I really wish that both you and Neal would have gone for the Zoom F8n.

God!  With neal doing his usual podcast introducing the device a long with a tactile map and your superior understanding of how the menue systems are laid out and navigating and making appropriate changes within, then I'd be indeed, a happy rabbit.  with all that support.

Very best wishes, Andy.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Hamit Campos" <>
To: <>
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 3:04 AM
Subject: Re: [all-audio] A Few Recordings with my Parabolic System

Hi Andy. It's Hamiht. You could to a certain extent get the quality Jarry did. Via the F8N. Now that's just the recorder. I'll be real with you my friend I've not heard the AT-8022 with an F recorder let alone a true pro recorder Like Neal's trusty old Sound-Devices 744-T. Man how I'd love 1 of those things. A kind reminder too my friend. You're confusing the 2022 with the 8022. The 2022 is the 1 that yes if you want to use the quarter intch jacks into the middle of the XLR quarter jacks of the H6 absolutely make sure phantom is off. The 8022 on the contrary I wana jently kindly remind you my friend can take and does take phantom as it has XLRs. This is how I use it to get it's full potential. If you ever do try the 8022 on the F8N send me a demo please. I'd love to know how it sounds on an F recorder.

On 8/26/2020 5:29 PM, Andy via wrote:
Hi Craig.

I downloaded your recording, just before the subject line was hi-jacked with professional sound engineer's.

Now. Let's get back to basics.

I'm interested, very much in Recording bird call, here in the west Coast area of Scotland.

I have a lot:

Zoom H6.
Zoom F8n.
2 At 8022's
and 1 AT 2022.

Now, I've all the tools, but little skill.

I want to record the best I can achieve, as you do Craig.
So out of my options above, I believe for a simple Dawn Chorus, you'd advise . My Zoom H6 and At 2022.

Let's consider the ZoomF8n later.

So I'm going to give this a go as soon as I can make sure that Phantom power is completely turned off on the H6. I down't want to burn this mick out.

Now regarding your recordings.

I'm not going to blow smoke in your ears my friend.

This is my honest opinion.

The quality of the recordings of crows was extemely high. I cannot get anywhere near this quality.

Now Consider this.

You said so, in your rural comunity, you simply cannot record absolute silence.

So although your recordings are extremely good, all the ground and background sound destroys it's value.

Now consider me.

I live in a small village called Kilcreggan. The village is on the Roseneith Peninsular on the west coast of scotland.

My recording station is looking straight out the Clyde Estury to the Irish sea and Atlantic.

To my Left is Greenock and Gouroch. Then the channel then to my right, Dunoon.

I'm 500 ft above the world and it's, on occasion, total silence, like the movie gravity. .

When there is a thunder or lightening storm, this is where you find me, going insane with pleasure.

Now regarding bird call. I'm luck because my wife and I own a small farm of over 1000 trees and more birds than anywhere on the peninsular.

Hense this equipment.

I simply know that you would not challeng me, for there are opertunities all around me with various challenges such as Wind noise.

I really do wish that with digital recording now taking off that somethin like Blind Cool Tech could not be started up again. to gather all of our podcasts and make them available for list members.

What do you think?

Very best wishes.


----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Berrier" <>
To: <>
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2020 9:43 AM
Subject: Re: [all-audio] A Few Recordings with my Parabolic System

It's a 22-inch in diameter Wildtronics amplified parabolic system.

-----Original Message-----
From: <all-> On Behalf Of Steve Jacobson
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2020 10:24 PM
Subject: Re: [all-audio] A Few Recordings with my Parabolic System


I am sorry, but I missed the beginning of this thread. Which microphone
system is being used, and how large is it? Thank you.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

-----Original Message-----
From: <> On Behalf Of Jerry Berrier
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2020 7:39 PM
Subject: [all-audio] A Few Recordings with my Parabolic System

I have not yet made any practical use of all three mics at the same time,
but it's fun having the focused recording along with the stereo recording,
just in case I want it.

Here's a series of recordings of crows in my back yard, recorded with the F6
and Parabola stereo mics. I used Reaper to string the recordings together,
and they get successively louder toward the end, due to my inexperience with

All of the rest were recorded on an Olympus LS14 and my parabolic system.
They were all recorded in Tennessee. I rarely get the chance to make
exciting recordings, because I live in a fairly urban area near Boston.

Here's a link to a recording I made early on a spring morning at Seven
Islands state park:;data=02%7C01%7C%7C44

Here's what sounds like a conversation between two Carolina wrens;data=02%7C0

And here is a mono recording from the parabola of a Chuck Will's Widow.
There's a lot of noise from a nearby stream, and I could not even hear the
bird with my naked ears. I just havppened to be slowly swinging the
parabola around while listening with headphones, and all of a sudden I heard
it and homed in on it.;data=02%7C01%7C%7C44f43a2

Jerry Berrier


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