Re: Microphones for Zoom


Andy
 

Hi again Hamit.

I thought that this particular microphone would meet my needs.

I still have your advice regarding twinning each XLR as one input.

Neil also explained this in his podcast.

However you said "It also comes with a
little mini XLR to headphone jack plug so you could use it with the X^Y H6 "
What do you mean by this?

The Zoom H6 has a headphone socket and I've enough XLR's to cope with this, but why this additional accessory?

Very best wishes.

Andy.




----- Original Message -----
From: "Hamit Campos" <hamitcampos@gmail.com>
To: <all-audio@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2020 4:13 PM
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom


It's an Audio-Technica. That's why the AT. It's a stereo mic so it's actually 2 XLRs that would go into the H6 or F8N in your case. Now you'd have to stereo link them like I told you on the H6 and however you stereo link on the F8N or any of the F recorders. It also comes with a little mini XLR to headphone jack plug so you could use it with the X^Y H6 peace too or on something like Gena's H1N.
On 5/26/2020 9:54 AM, Andy via groups.io wrote:
Hi Hamit.

this Road AT-8022, is it an Xlr or an USB mic.


I ask because on Accessible Youtube a guy was doing rather nice outdoor recordings in a city in America, and I've heard Neil say that he has the same mic, though I rather think he has a USB type.

If I'm correct and you can get both, then my problems are over for the AT-8022 as I can record bird calls and also indoor quire or my local band in my pub.

Also, is the NT1 an XLR or USB?

I ask because I like your setup of having 2 factory sets for my band and quire, though, I don't know how good it is for out of doors.

Very best wishes.

I simply don't have information to be confident in spending that amount of cash.


Andy.



----- Original Message ----- From: "Hamit Campos" <hamitcampos@gmail.com>
To: <all-audio@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 6:43 PM
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom


Ah then yeah depending on how much you can spend the NT1 or older and crisper NT1-A are a no go as you'd need 2 and you'd need to link them together on either zoom. I could tell you how and infact since then I'll recommend my AT-8022 since it is 1 mic with 2 modded AT-4021 capsels in it it'll show up as 2 seperate mics. So what you do is connect the left XLR into either the front left or right plug on the H6. The right 1 goes in the XLR towards the back of therecorder. So the XLR closer to the card reader if you wana use the left side. Closer to the lever for the menus if the right. Now you have to use the buttons that are numbered 1 threw 4. If you use the left side of the recorder you hold down the button 1 which is to the right of the R button. So it's the third button on the recorder. Whilst doing this press the 1 to it's right. Now you have linked them in stereo. Have someone to see? Because I recommend doing all this work so you use the XLRs and phantum power to get the most of the 8022.

On 5/12/2020 1:33 PM, Andy via groups.io wrote:
Hi all.

Getting more confused as the day goes on.

The Road NT1 is a no-no as I normally listen to sounds in sterio - it's just the way I am. Perhaps the NT1 is a fantastic Podcast microphone, but just about everything that I'm keen on recording requires a degree of width,

I'm totally not interested in recording a single bird, though I can see the attraction if making a collection of birds inone country or area.

Know, for a down chorus I'd be looking for a sterio outdoor microphone with a wide spread.

For example, here is a sample of my own International Dawn Chorus, recorded at my farm on the 3 May, using the Zoom H6 with the clip on right angle microphone.


Can you guess what is wrong with my recording?

https://www.sendspace.com/file/ox1jos

I have now purchased the newer Zoom F8n and wish a XLR sterio Microphone with a very good Dead Cat because my place is about 300 feet above the River Clyde, so is rather windy. - What do they use in Texas???

Hamit suggests that if the Nt1 is not for me, then perhaps I should look at the NT4. So I looked it up in Accessable Youtube .

It's about £600 and is a USB microphone, which I think would make it a good podcasting microphone, for a home studio computer.

So I'm at a bit of a loss at the moment and need to give it a lote more consideration.

Perhaps I can find out what I'm looking for using the link: How to Record Bird Songs and Calls - Nature Recording | Audubon, provided earlier today by Gena.



Very best wishes.

Andy.



for -----



Original Message ----- From: "Georgina Joyce" <gena@gena-j.me.uk>
To: <all-audio@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom


Hello John,

Fare point, as Andrew had done some research and considered that a shotgun might be the solution I thought he was wanting to focus upon one bird or those birds in a small area. As I pointed out the pickup area is shown as a heart shape. The number of channels does not express the polar pattern. If Andrew wants to record a wide stage then that is an omnidirectional microphone he requires. Not a stereo unless it is omnidirectional. Of course, if andrew wants that binaural affect then again it is something else. Thus there are plenty of options for Andy and many choices and it is for him to decide what the end result is that he requires. i.e. What size stage does Andy want?

There is a youtube reviewer of microphones who dances around the microphones so you can hear the extent of the pattern.

Regards,
On 12 May 2020, at 15:43, John Gurd via groups.io <j.gurd=ntlworld.com@groups.io> wrote:

I had a look at the link. Most bird watchers want to focus-record an individual bird song sometimes out of many background songs. A dawn Chorus is all the birds in the area - not just a single bird. As Hamit suggests a stereo mike might be more likely to do this successfully.

PS: last time I heard Andy was living in rural Scotland, so maybe not a big garden, but a lot of habitat. I know birds are territorial, but they tend to sing from adjoining gardens to, and I'm sure Andy isn't so possessive he only wants the birds singing in just his garden alone. You'll find a dawn chorus is just as big weather heard from a small garden or an estate for that very reason. 😉

John

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Georgina Joyce
Sent: 12 May 2020 14:41
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom

Hello John,

They don’t cut out sharply it’s usually shown as a heart shape tapering down to the point. Obviously, Andy has done some research and his post caused me to do so as I use a shotgun in the booth. Andy did not want ambient sound. He wanted to record bird song from his garden. Unless he lives in a huge estate it is not going to be that wide of a field. I found that bird watchers use a shotgun mic although this is with a camera. Even professional sound recordist uses a shotgun. See this:

https://www.audubon.org/news/a-beginners-guide-recording-bird-vocalizations

Regards,


On 12 May 2020, at 14:20, John Gurd via groups.io <j.gurd=ntlworld.com@groups.io> wrote:

From what I've read a shot-gun mike is so directional that even being off-target a little will result in poor quality sound. I doubt it would be the best for ambient recordings.

John


-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Georgina Joyce
Sent: 11 May 2020 14:16
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom

Hello Andy,

It is down to you and how much you want to spend. I follow the Booth Junky who uses a shotgun microphone a lot. He uses the Sennheiser MKH-416. I haven’t been able to afford one of those but I do have the MKH-166 which I purchased used from eBay. I absolutely love it and is my mic of choice. I think that would really do the job.

Regards,




On 11 May 2020, at 13:25, Andy via groups.io <meikle.aiden=btinternet.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hi all.

I've got both the Zoom H6 and the F8n, but the only microphones I have are the 2 clip on ones that I origionally got with the H6.

I'm wanting to record the Dawn Chorus in my garden but don't have a clue as to which microphone , or best type, to buy and where to buy it.

I think I need a directional Shot-gun microphone with a large Dead-Cat windscreen, and also about 3 meters of cable with the appropriate XLR plugs.

Can anyone please give me some advice.

Also, My Zoom H6 is playing up. I think I've changed an inportant option within the menues. I tried recording bird calls and the recording was extremely poor. Is there perhaps a function within the H6 that Re-sets the device back to factory settings.

I hope you are all okay and enjoying this period of noise pelution silence to get very nice recordings. If so I'd love to here some samples.

Very best wishes and please take care of yourselves.

Andy Logue from Scotland.






Gena

Call: M0EBP
DMR ID: 2346259
Loc: IO83PS
73







Gena

Call: M0EBP
DMR ID: 2346259
Loc: IO83PS
73







Gena

Call: M0EBP
DMR ID: 2346259
Loc: IO83PS
73







--
This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
https://www.avast.com/antivirus


Join all-audio@groups.io to automatically receive all group messages.