Re: digital audio recorders: looking for a specific type

Dane Trethowan <grtdane@...>

The LS-P4 performs far better when recording than do the older DM models, no comparison actually.
As I said in a previous message, playback on the internal speaker is a little compressed but to me that’s a minor irritation as that problem can be easily fixed by listening through headphones or streaming to a Bluetooth device, take your pick.
The LS-P4’s “Auto” Recording Level arrangement is superb as the recorder uses a “Look Ahead Buffer” rather than an AGC so n=no need for any “Smart Level” function as found on the LS-14.
The LS-P4 does have a downside, you can’t record to the FLAC format whilst you have a Bluetooth device connected but at least you can record to Wave at 96KHZ/24 bit should you want to.
Again this recorder may not be any good to you as it doesn’t have XLR inputs.

On 4 Sep 2019, at 3:57 am, Aidan <> wrote:

Well, I did consider the lsp4 but it seems like it sound almost like
the dm models, and not as pro as the 14 and others, so I guess zoom is
the way to go. By the way if anyone have more h1n tips I would
If you want a more accessible way to record h6 sound, the u44 does a
great job. It have the same preamps as the h6, and is compatible with
the capsuls of the h6, so you can snap them on the side of the u44,
and ajust input volume, and output volume of the interface and connect
a line in recorder to it, and you can power the u44 with 2 dubble A
batteries, and take it outside and record. Only thing that on
batteries fantum power don't seem to work, not sure if that is normal,
but that is where the capsuls just will shine.

On 9/3/19, Dane Trethowan <> wrote:
One of the most interesting things I've ever done with the LS-100 was to
it up as a sound device for my Mac, no reason why it won't work on
That's a nice and easy way to add some flexibility to your recording
on your computer if you're looking for some stand-out microphones -
as part of the recorder or your choice of external microphones -, XLR
of course, line-in etc.

-----Original Message-----
From: <> On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
Sent: Tuesday, 3 September 2019 9:48 AM
Subject: Re: [all-audio] digital audio recorders: looking for a specific

Yeah after his traffic file that's exactly what Neal did. Breathe into
side and yeah you hear wind like if it were going into omni mics. I almost
got a P4 for the FLAC recording and playback. But I wanted XLRs and
lol But how doews it do with holding your place. If I have a beef with the
14 it's with the MP3 playback. That it rewinds and fast forwards too far
that if you shut it down it won't hold your place.
I know it's not a player like the DMs were especially those that had the
podcast folder. Maybe I should see about a DM 520 or 620. For MP3s. My
Stone 311 died.

On 9/2/2019 7:41 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
The problems with wind and the Olympus LS-100 are incredibly bad, you
have to breathe on the machine to hear the noise.
My favourite Olympous recorder by far is the LS-P4, at last Olympus have
something which perfectly fits into the recorder range and does
well except for playing back audio through the internal speabut as people
know I've never judged recorders by their dreadful internal speakers
Its possible in my view that we won't see another Olympus recorder with
XLR inputs and Olympus will just cater for the market it knows, the voice
recorder and camera market.

-----Original Message-----
From: <> On Behalf Of Hamit
Sent: Tuesday, 3 September 2019 9:19 AM
Subject: Re: [all-audio] digital audio recorders: looking for a
specific type

Oh yeah the wind into the buttons thing. I've never felt up an LS-100 but
that sounds like there are openings someware whre the wind is going into.
I remember Neal mentioning and demoing this. I didn't worry about it as
much as had I got 1 like I do with my H6 I'd mostly use my AT-8022. Sure
did consider the issue because for run and gunn quick out doors stuff it
would be a problem. As is the over censitivity of the XY H6 to wind. Dude
those guys can't take wind at all. Shocked me it did that the LS-14 mics
can handle more wind.

On 9/2/2019 6:38 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Unfortunately - as good as the LS-100 is - the recorder has its share of
Rule number one with the LS-100 recorder seems to be, "Don't do any
outdoor field recording".
Wind gets into this recorder even if the recorder is dressed in a
windscreen, that shouldn't happen with a recorder supposedly as good as
the LS-100 is.

-----Original Message-----
From: <> On Behalf Of Aidan
Sent: Tuesday, 3 September 2019 7:23 AM
Subject: Re: [all-audio] digital audio recorders: looking for a
specific type

But why did olympus stop the ls100, why did they not make a new model
improved? I am worried because they seem to have less models now and the
american site is not up rite now. Hope they won't faid away, but even
though, they stil didn't get to the level zoom did, and its defnitly
wundering why not enough blind people use these? I mean half of them
might not even no what fantum power is.

On 9/2/19, Hamit Campos <> wrote:
Actually as an adendum they being Olympus must've at 1 point because
they did make the DM-4. So maybe they figured it out even if when
the first 3 DS recorders that spoke only did for what ever ease of
use reason they did to start with.

On 9/2/2019 4:40 PM, Hamit Campos via Groups.Io wrote:
Well for general recording it's usable enough. the only real
problems are that 1 no talking so you will need help when menu
diving. Then 2 no beeps music or nothing like the PTRs or Olympus's
so you'll need headphones to know what is armed what's not and how
many tracks are armed. But for grabbing and going meh once you've
gotten the menu diving and track arming out of the way you good. I
1 and love it.
I got it because it's a 6 channal recorder and it has a brighter
sound than the LS 100. I only meantioned teh 100 because you asked
for a "blind friendly" recorder. Sad ain't it? That there's nothing
PTR2 accessible but with XLRs phantum and that is studio grade.
Could it be that it's supposed that blind people either don't care
for studio gear or don't know enough to do so? Sorry if that
offends anyone but 1 does have to wander why there's no true studio
grade blind friendly gear. Remember friends who knows why the
Olympus DS
50 even spoke in the first place. Did olympus know or care blind
people used them? Who even knows.

On 9/2/2019 3:55 PM, Christopher Wright wrote:
How accessible is the h6?

On 9/2/2019 3:50 PM, Aidan wrote:
Yes, just keep in mind that ls100 cannot record from 2 or more
inputs at the same time, only one at a time. Whereas the zoom h6
can, and to turn each input on/off, is very easy.

On 9/2/19, Hamit Campos <> wrote:
There use to be, the Olympus LS-100. So if you can find 1 on
EBay or Amazon go for it.

On 9/2/2019 3:29 PM, Christopher Wright wrote:

Is there a blind-user-friendly audio recorder that has dual
XLR/1/4″ combo inputs or one XLR input and a 3.5mm input that
goes to a separate channel?

This question was inspired by the following blog post:

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