Re: Yesterday's Apple event

Dane Trethowan <grtdane@...>

I should warn you before you go ahead with your iMac purchase that the modern-day iMac - as great a tool as it is - does not have a built-in sound device any longer, only built-in microphones and a headphone output so you’re going to need some sort of external sound Interface more than likely.
There are of course many interfaces available so take your pick.
As to why Apple decided to take away the built-in sound Interface from the Mac line? Well that’s Apple for you ain’t it <smile>.
I think it only fair to point out to you that - if its the all-in-one convenience you grave then there are Windows alternatives if you would rather not go down the Mac road.
I have been using Mac machines now for. 25 years full-time and I have enjoyed every minute of my experience.
I started with a Mac LC-630 machine with Outspoken.
Apple lead the charge with the Introduction of the VoiceOver Screen Reader in OSX Tiger back in 2005, thankfully Windows has followed suit with Narrator.

On 10 Jun 2019, at 7:16 am, Aidan <> wrote:

Dane, I am also thinking of getting an IMac, since then you have
everything in one, and its goog for audio, and I get the full feature
set in apps like garageband and yes, ios don't have something like
audio hijack yet.
And if you need to get the job done, weel then that is just necessary.
And IMac also have stereo speakers.

On 6/9/19, Aidan <> wrote:
Gina, I love google assistant. Its available on many thirdparty
speakers also, and I recently aquired the jbl link20. And now I can
carry the thing around and don't have to sit at one place where the
GoogleHome mini is plugged in. Yes google understands easlier, I just
struggle for it to here me trigger it sometimes.

On 6/9/19, Brian Olesen <> wrote:
Hi Gina,
Google Assistant is very good at understanding human voice. Probably the
best at it at the moment.
Alexa is almost just as good, but dear miss Siri lacks quite a bit
The response voice that comes with Siri is seriously upgraded with iOS 13
which definitely sutes her!

Best regards

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Fra: <> På vegne af Georgina Joyce
Sendt: 9. juni 2019 21:44
Emne: Re: [all-audio] Yesterday's Apple event

I wondered from your perspective, what assistant works best for you? I
the impression that Google, Alexa and Siri are equal in terms of
understanding my request. I am wondering if the Google service is better
users can teach it their voice. Is Google tolerant of your voice
presentation? Is Alexa better?

Please note, I am not enquiring about the response just purely of hearing
correctly the users request.

On 9 Jun 2019, at 19:36, Tom Kaufman <> wrote:

I have a bit of a speech impediment that also causes her to not always
understand what I say; I will send a text message, using Siri; if I say
something that has the "R" sound, she'll sometimes get it wrong!
Tom Kaufman

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Subject: Re: [all-audio] Yesterday's Apple event

Yeah she doesn’t understand what i say sometimes.
Really idiocy.

5 juni 2019 kl. 19:46 skrev Georgina Joyce <


I think the improvement of Siri’s voice is my favourite. Pity she is a
dum ass.


On 4 Jun 2019, at 22:15, Dane Trethowan <>

I’m sure many of you on list were following along and what an event it
was, certainly far better than the other session Apple held a few
The highlight for me was the announcement that iTunes is to be split
into 3 different Apps and not before time too I hear you all say.
Apple Music App will handle all your music. Apple Podcasts your
etc and Apple TV for the rest, sound familiar? It certainly does so if
you’re using an IOS device.


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