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New Direct Sampling Transceiver IC from Texas Instruments #hardware

prog
 

Ken Alexander
 

Sounds cool, but at those prices you can count me out.¬†ūüėĖ

Ken Alexander
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Pierre Martel
 

at 1800$ a pop. Not sure it will be available
in a near futur for our type of use.


Le mar. 5 mars 2019 à 07:36, prog <info@...> a écrit :
ADC: 3 GSPS
DAC: 9 GSPS
2 or 4 TRX channels

Check this out!

https://news.ti.com/industrys-first-integrated-quad-and-dual-channel-rf-sampling-transceivers-enable-multiantenna-wideband-systems?HQS=asc-dcs-hsc-afe74xx-twit-lp-pr-wwe

Marcus D. Leech
 

David J Taylor
 

From: Pierre Martel

at 1800$ a pop. Not sure it will be available in a near futur for our type of use.
============================================

... and I read it as $1800 for a reel of 100! $18 each.

Cheers,
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prog
 

It's for big boys playing radio.

Siegfried Jackstien
 

wow

  • Highest instantaneous bandwidth (IBW): Offering the highest IBW among radio frequency (RF)-sampling transceivers, the AFE7444 and AFE7422 enable engineers to achieve up to 600 percent more data throughput. While sampling up to 9 gigasamples per second (GSPS) per DAC and up to 3 GSPS per ADC, the AFE7444 receives and transmits up to 800 MHz of information from each of the four antennae, and the AFE7422 receives and transmits 1.2 GHz from each of the two antennae.
  • Widest frequency range: The new RF-sampling wideband transceivers give engineers flexibility to design applications covering any frequency from 10 MHz to 6 GHz.
Am 05.03.2019 um 12:35 schrieb prog:

Siegfried Jackstien
 

100 ... for 1700 dollar ... that is 17 bucks per chip

now we make a group order hi hi

greetz

sigi dg9bfc

Am 05.03.2019 um 12:59 schrieb Ken Alexander:

Sounds cool, but at those prices you can count me out.¬†ūüėĖ

Ken Alexander
So Phisai, Thailand
Blog:  bueng-ken.com


prog
 

TI should make an even smaller version with just 1 channel TX and restricted bandwidth, all at a lower price.

Marcus D. Leech
 

On 03/05/2019 09:51 AM, prog wrote:
TI should make an even smaller version with just 1 channel TX and restricted bandwidth, all at a lower price.
_._,_._,_


They should put more info in the datasheet is what they should do...


August Johnson
 

Nope. $1800 each
ti.jpg

On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 6:51 AM prog <info@...> wrote:
TI should make an even smaller version with just 1 channel TX and restricted bandwidth, all at a lower price.

Siegfried Jackstien
 

no they should send out a developers board ... for say 200 -300 bucks with ALL antenna connectors routed to ufl connectors ... plus a nice and not tooo smal fpga  / soc or so . ... usb3 ... or minipcie to stick direct in a single board computer

and we have a new wideband sdr

dg9bfc sigi.

Am 05.03.2019 um 14:51 schrieb prog:

TI should make an even smaller version with just 1 channel TX and restricted bandwidth, all at a lower price.

Siegfried Jackstien
 

hmmm so sad it is not 18 bucks each

i am sure a group order woud be done in a minute hi hi

...

they will soon get down in the price ... i am sure

that will be done if that chip is added in millions of new smartphones with 5g internet

just a guess (or a slight hope)

greetz

sigi dg9bfc

Am 05.03.2019 um 14:53 schrieb August Johnson:

Nope. $1800 each
ti.jpg

On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 6:51 AM prog <info@...> wrote:
TI should make an even smaller version with just 1 channel TX and restricted bandwidth, all at a lower price.

Fred Hillhouse
 

Good eye David!

 

Product,Package, Pricing in 100-unit quantities, Order now at the TI store

AFE7444 quad-channel, wideband RF-sampling transceiver,  17-mm-by-17-mm, flip-chip ball grid array (FCBGA), Starting at US$1,749.90, AFE7444IABJ

AFE7422 dual-channel, wideband RF-sampling transceiver, 17-mm-by-17-mm FCBGA, Starting at US$1,249.90,  AFE7422IABJ

 

They are $17.50/piece and $12.50/piece which is not unreasonable.

 

There are evaluation modules available at $2499 and $1999.

 

 

 

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From: Pierre Martel

 

at 1800$ a pop. Not sure it will be available in a near futur for our type

of use.

============================================

 

... and I read it as $1800 for a reel of 100!  $18 each.

 

Cheers,

David

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Siegfried Jackstien
 

so ... when do start a group order???

should be easy o find a cheap chinese pcb manufacturer hi hi

(just hoping a bit)

dg9bfc sigi

ps ... yes that is also what i have seen price per 100 units (half a metre cut from the reel or so)






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Am 05.03.2019 um 15:45 schrieb Fred Hillhouse:

Good eye David!

 

Product,Package, Pricing in 100-unit quantities, Order now at the TI store

AFE7444 quad-channel, wideband RF-sampling transceiver,  17-mm-by-17-mm, flip-chip ball grid array (FCBGA), Starting at US$1,749.90, AFE7444IABJ

AFE7422 dual-channel, wideband RF-sampling transceiver, 17-mm-by-17-mm FCBGA, Starting at US$1,249.90,  AFE7422IABJ

 

They are $17.50/piece and $12.50/piece which is not unreasonable.

 

There are evaluation modules available at $2499 and $1999.

 

 

 

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Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2019 9:36 AM
To: main@airspy.groups.io
Subject: Re: [airspy] New Direct Sampling Transceiver IC from Texas Instruments #hardware

 

From: Pierre Martel

 

at 1800$ a pop. Not sure it will be available in a near futur for our type

of use.

============================================

 

... and I read it as $1800 for a reel of 100!  $18 each.

 

Cheers,

David

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August Johnson
 

That line means pricing EACH if you buy 100 units. Not price for 100 units. You will be disappointed. $1800 in single unit quantities. Click on the "order now" link and TRY to add ONE to your cart. You'll see $1801.70.

August KG7BZ


On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 8:03 AM Siegfried Jackstien <siegfried.jackstien@...> wrote:

so ... when do start a group order???

should be easy o find a cheap chinese pcb manufacturer hi hi

(just hoping a bit)

dg9bfc sigi

ps ... yes that is also what i have seen price per 100 units (half a metre cut from the reel or so)






p chinese pc

Am 05.03.2019 um 15:45 schrieb Fred Hillhouse:

Good eye David!

 

Product,Package, Pricing in 100-unit quantities, Order now at the TI store

AFE7444 quad-channel, wideband RF-sampling transceiver,  17-mm-by-17-mm, flip-chip ball grid array (FCBGA), Starting at US$1,749.90, AFE7444IABJ

AFE7422 dual-channel, wideband RF-sampling transceiver, 17-mm-by-17-mm FCBGA, Starting at US$1,249.90,  AFE7422IABJ

 

They are $17.50/piece and $12.50/piece which is not unreasonable.

 

There are evaluation modules available at $2499 and $1999.

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: main@airspy.groups.io [mailto:main@airspy.groups.io] On Behalf Of David J Taylor via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2019 9:36 AM
To: main@airspy.groups.io
Subject: Re: [airspy] New Direct Sampling Transceiver IC from Texas Instruments #hardware

 

From: Pierre Martel

 

at 1800$ a pop. Not sure it will be available in a near futur for our type

of use.

============================================

 

... and I read it as $1800 for a reel of 100!  $18 each.

 

Cheers,

David

--

SatSignal Software - Quality software for you

Web: http://www.satsignal.eu

Email: david-taylor@...

Twitter: @gm8arv

 

 

 


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Marcus D. Leech
 

On 03/05/2019 11:13 AM, August Johnson wrote:
That line means pricing EACH if you buy 100 units. Not price for 100 units. You will be disappointed. $1800 in single unit quantities. Click on the "order now" link and TRY to add ONE to your cart. You'll see $1801.70.

August KG7BZ

"Yes, but we'll only have to sell ONE of it, and we'll eat like kings, my friend, LIKE KINGS!"



On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 8:03 AM Siegfried Jackstien <siegfried.jackstien@...> wrote:

so ... when do start a group order???

should be easy o find a cheap chinese pcb manufacturer hi hi

(just hoping a bit)

dg9bfc sigi

ps ... yes that is also what i have seen price per 100 units (half a metre cut from the reel or so)






p chinese pc

Am 05.03.2019 um 15:45 schrieb Fred Hillhouse:

Good eye David!

 

Product,Package, Pricing in 100-unit quantities, Order now at the TI store

AFE7444 quad-channel, wideband RF-sampling transceiver,  17-mm-by-17-mm, flip-chip ball grid array (FCBGA), Starting at US$1,749.90, AFE7444IABJ

AFE7422 dual-channel, wideband RF-sampling transceiver, 17-mm-by-17-mm FCBGA, Starting at US$1,249.90,  AFE7422IABJ

 

They are $17.50/piece and $12.50/piece which is not unreasonable.

 

There are evaluation modules available at $2499 and $1999.

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: main@airspy.groups.io [mailto:main@airspy.groups.io] On Behalf Of David J Taylor via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2019 9:36 AM
To: main@airspy.groups.io
Subject: Re: [airspy] New Direct Sampling Transceiver IC from Texas Instruments #hardware

 

From: Pierre Martel

 

at 1800$ a pop. Not sure it will be available in a near futur for our type

of use.

============================================

 

... and I read it as $1800 for a reel of 100!  $18 each.

 

Cheers,

David

--

SatSignal Software - Quality software for you

Web: http://www.satsignal.eu

Email: david-taylor@...

Twitter: @gm8arv

 

 

 


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Marcus D. Leech
 

On 03/05/2019 11:20 AM, Marcus D. Leech via Groups.Io wrote:
On 03/05/2019 11:13 AM, August Johnson wrote:
That line means pricing EACH if you buy 100 units. Not price for 100 units. You will be disappointed. $1800 in single unit quantities. Click on the "order now" link and TRY to add ONE to your cart. You'll see $1801.70.

August KG7BZ

"Yes, but we'll only have to sell ONE of it, and we'll eat like kings, my friend, LIKE KINGS!"


To be fair to TI, they likely spent a lot of money developing this thing, and yields on that kind of part are probably poor.  Probably spent a
  few million just bringing it to this stage.

Hopefully, the price will come down over time.   The first 8080 CPUs,, for example, were quite expensive.



On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 8:03 AM Siegfried Jackstien <siegfried.jackstien@...> wrote:

so ... when do start a group order???

should be easy o find a cheap chinese pcb manufacturer hi hi

(just hoping a bit)

dg9bfc sigi

ps ... yes that is also what i have seen price per 100 units (half a metre cut from the reel or so)






p chinese pc

Am 05.03.2019 um 15:45 schrieb Fred Hillhouse:

Good eye David!

 

Product,Package, Pricing in 100-unit quantities, Order now at the TI store

AFE7444 quad-channel, wideband RF-sampling transceiver,  17-mm-by-17-mm, flip-chip ball grid array (FCBGA), Starting at US$1,749.90, AFE7444IABJ

AFE7422 dual-channel, wideband RF-sampling transceiver, 17-mm-by-17-mm FCBGA, Starting at US$1,249.90,  AFE7422IABJ

 

They are $17.50/piece and $12.50/piece which is not unreasonable.

 

There are evaluation modules available at $2499 and $1999.

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: main@airspy.groups.io [mailto:main@airspy.groups.io] On Behalf Of David J Taylor via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2019 9:36 AM
To: main@airspy.groups.io
Subject: Re: [airspy] New Direct Sampling Transceiver IC from Texas Instruments #hardware

 

From: Pierre Martel

 

at 1800$ a pop. Not sure it will be available in a near futur for our type

of use.

============================================

 

... and I read it as $1800 for a reel of 100!  $18 each.

 

Cheers,

David

--

SatSignal Software - Quality software for you

Web: http://www.satsignal.eu

Email: david-taylor@...

Twitter: @gm8arv

 

 

 


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Joe M.
 

Is this really one, or one lot of 100?
(which makes the 100+ QTY 100+ lots of 100, or 10,000+)

Maybe when you add one, you're adding one lot of 100.

Joe M.

On 3/5/2019 11:13 AM, August Johnson wrote:
That line means pricing EACH if you buy 100 units. Not price for 100
units. You will be disappointed. $1800 in single unit quantities. Click
on the "order now" link and TRY to add ONE to your cart. You'll see
$1801.70.

August KG7BZ


On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 8:03 AM Siegfried Jackstien
<siegfried.jackstien@... <mailto:siegfried.jackstien@...>>
wrote:

so ... when do start a group order???

should be easy o find a cheap chinese pcb manufacturer hi hi

(just hoping a bit)

dg9bfc sigi

ps ... yes that is also what i have seen price per 100 units (half a
metre cut from the reel or so)






p chinese pc

Am 05.03.2019 um 15:45 schrieb Fred Hillhouse:

*Good eye David!____*

*__ __*

*Product,Package, Pricing in 100-unit quantities, Order now at the
TI store*____

AFE7444
<https://c212.net/c/link/?t=0&l=en&o=2390916-1&h=2410926770&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ti.com%2Fproduct%2FAFE7444%2Fsamplebuy%3FHQS-asc-dc-hsc-afe74xx-pr-sa-afe7444-wwe&a=AFE7444> quad-channel,
wideband RF-sampling transceiver, 17-mm-by-17-mm, flip-chip ball
grid array (FCBGA), Starting at US$1,749.90, AFE7444IABJ
<https://c212.net/c/link/?t=0&l=en&o=2390916-1&h=3609658633&u=https%3A%2F%2Fstore.ti.com%2FAFE7444IABJ.aspx%3FHQS%3Dasc-dc-hsc-afe74xx-pr-storeic-afe7444-wwe&a=AFE7444IABJ>____

AFE7422
<https://c212.net/c/link/?t=0&l=en&o=2390916-1&h=4212400792&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ti.com%2Fproduct%2FAFE7422%2Fsamplebuy%3FHQS-asc-dc-hsc-afe74xx-pr-sa-afe7422-wwe&a=AFE7422> dual-channel,
wideband RF-sampling transceiver, 17-mm-by-17-mm FCBGA, Starting
at US$1,249.90, AFE7422IABJ
<https://c212.net/c/link/?t=0&l=en&o=2390916-1&h=3758813333&u=https%3A%2F%2Fstore.ti.com%2FAFE7422IABJ.aspx%3FHQS%3Dasc-dc-hsc-afe74xx-pr-storeic-afe7444-wwe&a=AFE7422IABJ>____

__ __

They are $17.50/piece and $12.50/piece which is not unreasonable.____

__ __

There are evaluation modules available at $2499 and $1999.____

__ __

__ __

____

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Groups.Io
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Texas Instruments #hardware

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From: Pierre Martel____

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at 1800$ a pop. Not sure it will be available in a near futur for
our type ____

of use.____

============================================____

__ __

... and I read it as $1800 for a reel of 100! $18 each.____

__ __

Cheers,____

David____

-- ____

SatSignal Software - Quality software for you____

Web: http://www.satsignal.eu____

Email: david-taylor@...
<mailto:david-taylor@...>____

Twitter: @gm8arv ____

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August Johnson
 

This is the standard pricing method. It means EACH in quantity of 100. See this when you go to the buy page.

ti.jpg
August KG7BZ



On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 8:37 AM Joe M. <mch@...> wrote:
Is this really one, or one lot of 100?
(which makes the 100+ QTY 100+ lots of 100, or 10,000+)

Maybe when you add one, you're adding one lot of 100.

Joe M.

On 3/5/2019 11:13 AM, August Johnson wrote:
> That line means pricing EACH if you buy 100 units. Not price for 100
> units. You will be disappointed. $1800 in single unit quantities. Click
> on the "order now" link and TRY to add ONE to your cart. You'll see
> $1801.70.
>
> August KG7BZ
>