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Cant get anything using my Terratec Dongle

evparton <TvBargains@...>
 

Hi
I am a serious satellite enthusiast ...and whilst cruising the internet recently I discovered SDR ..
Knowing little about it I ent searching on ebay ..found and shipped one of these from the USA to the UK

DVB-T USB TV RTL-SDR FM+DAB Tuner Receiver Stick Realtek RTL2832U + E4000

Figuring it would be an easy thing to set up I downloaded the auto install .bat file which supposedly downloads and installs all relevant neeed components ..
I have the Terratec dongle being recognised having substituted the installed drivers with Zadig.
Before this I installed the drivers and software that came with the dongle to ensure it was working ok ..
and even with the noddy aerial provided ..DVBT channels and DAB radio was possible.
So continued with the installation of Sharp SDR,,
The dongle is recognised ..and the drivers installed.
But ..I have yet to get a single recogniseable channel using SharpSDR.
I noticed a front end button is mentioned on various newbie guides.
The version installed does not have this..
I am geting a peak at DC ..and have selected the USB dongle in the drop down box ..so went for the UK Wideband FM part of the spectrum ..
Nothing ..no peaks just a continuous tone varying in pitch depending on placement of the frquency green line cursor.
It looks for all the world like the dongle is recognised in software but the front endisn't working.
I know it does ..because it worked with the software and drivers supplied.
So ..what am I doing wrong ?
Can anyone help a complete newbieto SDR ?
Perhaps one day I'll get to build images from those polar orbiting weather sats which was a possible target for my interest..but first I'll begin easy ..and be happy to just get an FM radio station.
rgds


Re: [SDRSharp] MicroSoft undates telling me there is an update for my laptops Realtek 2832U

Alan
 

----- Original Message -----
Subject: [SDRSharp] MicroSoft undates telling me there is an update for my laptops Realtek 2832U


Normally keep up with the MicroSoft updates on my laptop (Win 7 64 bit).

This month, there are (2) updates available for Realtek 2832U to install(e.g. Realtek is my streaming media and broadcast audio device).
Ed,

Are you saying you do not use the RTL stick with SDR# or any other SDR software?
If you do not then allow the update.

Zadig does nothing on it's own. Those who use the RTL as an SDR initiate Zadig to overwrite the TV drivers.

Good to find someone who actually looks to see what updates are being offered instead of blindly letting Windows do it automatically...
The problem affects RTL/SDR users when Windows overwrites the SDR driver with the TV media driver.

73 Alan G4ZFQ

Not sure what this is about and/or whether or not to proceed with the the updates.

Although SDR# installed and runs fine, have since read where the utility called Zadig overrides the operating system's own drivers has been problematic.

http://www.funcubedongle.com/?p=1425


Re: [SDRSharp] MicroSoft undates telling me there is an update for my laptops Realtek 2832U

jdow <jdow@...>
 

If windows installs drivers for the RealTek dongles simply run Zadig again
to override it.

{^_^}

On 2013/07/10 19:55, Ron Hayes wrote:


I was setup for auto updates not any more after this newest update. It seems I
can not upload an attachment photo. It happened to both my home computers, I
restored to before the update and all is fine. Just an FYI .

*From:* jdow <jdow@earthlink.net>
*To:* SDRSharp@yahoogroups.co.uk
*Sent:* Wednesday, July 10, 2013 9:35 PM
*Subject:* Re: [SDRSharp] MicroSoft undates telling me there is an update for my
laptops Realtek 2832U

Zadig is for the cheap European DVB TV dongles, ONLY. If you are not
running a DVB dongle don't touch Zadig.

{^_^}

On 2013/07/10 17:48, topossibilities wrote:
> Normally keep up with the MicroSoft updates on my laptop (Win 7 64 bit).
>
> This month, there are (2) updates available for Realtek 2832U to install(e.g.
Realtek is my streaming media and broadcast audio device).
>
> Not sure what this is about and/or whether or not to proceed with the the
updates.
>
> Although SDR# installed and runs fine, have since read where the utility
called Zadig overrides the operating system's own drivers has been problematic.
>
> http://www.funcubedongle.com/?p=1425
>
> Comments?
>
> Ed, W1AAZ





Re: [SDRSharp] MicroSoft undates telling me there is an update for my laptops Realtek 2832U

Ron Hayes <ka2rrz@...>
 

I was setup for auto updates not any more after this newest update. It seems I can not upload an attachment photo. It happened to both my home computers, I restored to before the update and all is fine. Just an FYI .

From: jdow
To: SDRSharp@...
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 9:35 PM
Subject: Re: [SDRSharp] MicroSoft undates telling me there is an update for my laptops Realtek 2832U

 
Zadig is for the cheap European DVB TV dongles, ONLY. If you are not
running a DVB dongle don't touch Zadig.

{^_^}

On 2013/07/10 17:48, topossibilities wrote:
> Normally keep up with the MicroSoft updates on my laptop (Win 7 64 bit).
>
> This month, there are (2) updates available for Realtek 2832U to install(e.g. Realtek is my streaming media and broadcast audio device).
>
> Not sure what this is about and/or whether or not to proceed with the the updates.
>
> Although SDR# installed and runs fine, have since read where the utility called Zadig overrides the operating system's own drivers has been problematic.
>
> http://www.funcubedongle.com/?p=1425
>
> Comments?
>
> Ed, W1AAZ



Re: [SDRSharp] MicroSoft undates telling me there is an update for my laptops Realtek 2832U

jdow <jdow@...>
 

Zadig is for the cheap European DVB TV dongles, ONLY. If you are not
running a DVB dongle don't touch Zadig.

{^_^}

On 2013/07/10 17:48, topossibilities wrote:
Normally keep up with the MicroSoft updates on my laptop (Win 7 64 bit).

This month, there are (2) updates available for Realtek 2832U to install(e.g. Realtek is my streaming media and broadcast audio device).

Not sure what this is about and/or whether or not to proceed with the the updates.

Although SDR# installed and runs fine, have since read where the utility called Zadig overrides the operating system's own drivers has been problematic.

http://www.funcubedongle.com/?p=1425

Comments?

Ed, W1AAZ


Re: Frequency manager question

Jeff Knapp
 

Hi Graham,

You may use the SDR Sharp Frequency Manager + Scanner
Data Conversion Tools included in my plugin suite at http://www.sdrsharpplugins.com/, you can upload a CSV file into the Frequency Manager database. I have over 4000 records in my database, most of them downloaded from RadioReference.com for my location and uploaded into my Frequency Manager using the Data Import tool.

After uploading, you can use the Browse window to assign blocks of frequencies to group(s) that you define.

I hope this helps, and write me directly if you have further questions.

Thanks for trying my plugins,
Jeff N8GJL

--- In SDRSharp@yahoogroups.co.uk, Graham Tanner <graham.tanner1@...> wrote:

All,

as a change to your regular series of questions concerning problems
installing Zadig, here's another question to think about!

I've been using the Frequency Manager (FM) add-on (from Jeff/N8GJL)
on an occasional basis for the past few months. I've only put in
about 20 frequencies and 3 Groups to the FM database and
I'm thinking of expand that. I'd like to add-in a lot more, possibly
100s of VHF and UHF airband frequencies.

Has anyone found a reasonably easy method of adding this information
to the database in bulk. I already have most of the frequencies in a
spreadsheet, so I can export them as a CSV file or convert them to XML.
I have studied the database and understand its layout and the
relationship between the various Tables, and I can see that simply
loading lots of data/frequencies into one Table is only half the job.

Has anybody tried this (and succeeded!)

Thanks


Graham Tanner,
London, UK


MicroSoft undates telling me there is an update for my laptops Realtek 2832U

topossibilities
 

Normally keep up with the MicroSoft updates on my laptop (Win 7 64 bit).

This month, there are (2) updates available for Realtek 2832U to install(e.g. Realtek is my streaming media and broadcast audio device).

Not sure what this is about and/or whether or not to proceed with the the updates.

Although SDR# installed and runs fine, have since read where the utility called Zadig overrides the operating system's own drivers has been problematic.

http://www.funcubedongle.com/?p=1425

Comments?

Ed, W1AAZ


Re: install.bat Using the Wrong Version of Zadig?

DaveNF2G <davidthomasstark@...>
 

--- In SDRSharp@yahoogroups.co.uk, "drmail377" <drmail377@...> wrote:

I am confused by a combination of (1) outdated zadig.exe that gets installed by SDRSharp.com's install.bat file not agreeing with the online tutorials and the fact that the online tutorials also don't agree, one showing the Driver Current: box containing a description of the dongle, and the other showing Driver Current: as WinUSB (only)!

It seems to me that you are confusing yourself by overthinking the problem.

The thread started when you were "about to" install SDRSharp, but first you tried reading the installation script file and found what looked to you like a discrepancy. Then it seems you started fooling around with Zadig somewhat randomly while trying to do what others were suggesting. Unfortunately for you, those suggestions were based on the seemingly logical presumption that you had run the install script normally and followed all steps in normal sequence.

That presumption appears to be false based on the discussion.

Maybe you could try just running the install script - as is.

-Dave, NF2G


Frequency manager question

Graham Tanner
 

All,

as a change to your regular series of questions concerning problems installing Zadig, here's another question to think about!

I've been using the Frequency Manager (FM) add-on (from Jeff/N8GJL) on an occasional basis for the past few months. I've only put in about 20 frequencies and 3 Groups to the FM database and
I'm thinking of expand that. I'd like to add-in a lot more, possibly 100s of VHF and UHF airband frequencies.

Has anyone found a reasonably easy method of adding this information to the database in bulk. I already have most of the frequencies in a spreadsheet, so I can export them as a CSV file or convert them to XML.
I have studied the database and understand its layout and the relationship between the various Tables, and I can see that simply loading lots of data/frequencies into one Table is only half the job.

Has anybody tried this (and succeeded!)

Thanks


Graham Tanner,
London, UK


Re: [SDRSharp] Re: install.bat Using the Wrong Version of Zadig?

jdow <jdow@...>
 

The version that the install.bat file pulls down looks different,
Alberto. There is slightly less information. But it also generally
works for XP and 7. For some tweaking I am doing the newer drivers
are required, though. So that's why I have them.

{^_^}

On 2013/07/10 10:00, Alberto I2PHD wrote:


This is what I see when starting zadig_xp :

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/15089947/zadig.gif

73 Alberto I2PHD


Re: [SDRSharp] Re: install.bat Using the Wrong Version of Zadig?

jdow <jdow@...>
 

Blame that lack of understanding on the Zadig/WinUSB people. They are
somewhat short on any ability to document. (And they have not really
figured out how to uninstall that I can see.) This is the sum total
of their documentation: https://github.com/pbatard/libwdi/wiki/Zadig

{^_^}

On 2013/07/10 09:39, drmail377 wrote:
Ha! Exactly the answer I was looking for Alberto! Thank you Alberto (if this indeed works)...

I am confused by a combination of (1) outdated zadig.exe that gets installed by SDRSharp.com's install.bat file not agreeing with the online tutorials and the fact that the online tutorials also don't agree, one showing the Driver Current: box containing a description of the dongle, and the other showing Driver Current: as WinUSB (only)!

It is intuitive (for me anyway) that if there is a name box for the USB device in the Zadig dialog "Driver Current:" with other's examples showing something other than (NONE), that accepting (NONE) is likely wrong. In-fact, out of frustration I did select (NONE) before this whole thing started and got unexpected results.

Now I think I understand what Zadig is doing. It is a stand-alone executable that modifies the system to use (point to) a different USB driver depending on the VID, PID, and MI of a particular device plugged into a particular port. I'm understanding this by osmosis, nowhere is there any explanation of what Zadig actually does in any of the install documentation I've seen so far.

That's perhaps my problem, Anal Retentive about stuff getting installed on my machines coupled with dumbed-down and/or incomplete documentation.

I'll give accepting (NONE) a try....

I hope things go easier with the likes of HDSDR (roots with you Albert) - which I plan to try after getting SDRSharp working.

Regards, David

--- In SDRSharp@yahoogroups.co.uk, Alberto I2PHD <i2phd@...> wrote:

On 7/10/2013 4:28 PM, drmail377 wrote:

/In Zadig, Driver Current says: (NONE), Driver Target says: WinUSB (v6.1.7600.16385).//
/ /
//There is no way to change Driver Current: (NONE) to point to the RTL-SDR dongle. //
//Not from Zadig's Device drop-down or from Options > List All Devices./
Why do you want to change it ? It is simply telling you that no drivers are currently installed
for that device... it is NOT a field meant to point to the RTL-SDR dongle...

If the VID/PID are correct in that Zadig panel, you are already pointing to the dongle...
Just press Install....

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Re: [SDRSharp] Re: install.bat Using the Wrong Version of Zadig?

jdow <jdow@...>
 

The green arrow is missing. It has Details, Driver, and Target
all on the same line. To make Current change to WinUSB you press
the nice pretty button that says "Install Driver". Then you should
be done with Zadig.

The "Current" window is read only. The Install Driver is how the
driver is installed. On Zadig you NEVER EVER see anything about
rtlsdr.dll or sdrsharp. It simply installs a nice little driver
that rtlsdr.dll uses.

{^_^}

On 2013/07/10 09:27, drmail377 wrote:
Once again, yes, I am the "Computer administrator" according to what it says in Control Panel > User Accounts.

In the (Obviously outdated version) of Zadig installed by SDRSharp.com's install.bat (help > about shows: Zadig, Version 1.1.1.139, Copyright 2010-2011 Pete Batard).

In this version of Zadig there is NO green arrow, much less a "nice big pretty button there" as you say that I should press.

In the latest zadig_xp.exe, when run (yes, as Admin) there is (left to right in the same row):

Driver [(NONE)] Green => [WinUSB (v6.1.7600.1635)]

Just below the [WinUSB (v6.1.7600.1635)] box there is just one BIG button that says Install Driver with a drop-down attached to it on the right of the button. The drop-down on the button says "Install Driver (checked by default), Install WinCID Driver, and Extract Files (don't install).

When you say, "Notice the nice big pretty button there? Press teh damn thing"

Are you instructing me to click the big Install Driver button even though the field Driver [(None}] box still says "(None)"? If-so, that is NOT what is shown on the two online tutorials I've seen say.

I did this before (clicking Driver: [(NONE)] as there was no way to change it. And that lead to all these problems in the first place!


--- In SDRSharp@yahoogroups.co.uk, jdow <jdow@...> wrote:

Sigh - no you aren't following their advice - not properly.

If it shows "Driver" as "None" with the WinUSB selection shown to the right
of the green arrow on the same line look just below the list box that says
"WinUSB (v....". Notice the nice big pretty button there? Press teh damn
thing IF and ONLY if you launched Zadig as administrator from an
administrator enabled account.

{^_^}

On 2013/07/10 07:28, drmail377 wrote:
OK, this time I'm just using the install.bat script from SDRSharp.com. But (maybe) there is still a problem with the zadig.exe installed by install.bat...

I am running WinXp SP3+ with Admin privs and .NET 3.5+ installed.

I download sdr-install.zip from SDRSharp.com's Download page and unzip it.

I run install.bat

install.bat downloads all the software and puts it into a director &#92;sdrsharp

Inside &#92;sdrsharp I run zadig.exe

Note, at post time (10 July 2013) clicking Help > About in Zadig reveals:

Zadig, Version 1.1.1.139

In Zadig, I select Options > List All Devices.

Two Bulk-In Interfaces appear:

Bulk-In, Interface (Interface 0), and Bulk-in (Interface 1).

I Select Bulk-In, Interface (Interface 0)

For my dongle (NooElect R820T SDR & DVB-T), Zadig shows VID: 0BDA, PID: 2838, MI: 00. The VID and PID are correct in Zadig. I determined the VID and PID for this dongle in Device Manger previously before running Zadig.

In Zadig, Driver Current says: (NONE), Driver Target says: WinUSB (v6.1.7600.16385).

There is no way to change Driver Current: (NONE) to point to the RTL-SDR dongle. Not from Zadig's Device drop-down or from Options > List All Devices.

I close Zadig without letting it install anything.

Again, I'm following install instructions from:

http://rtlsdr.org/softwarewindows

and,

http://home.4x4wire.com/deddleman/photos/Installing%20SDRSharp%20Software.pdf

Both sets of instructions don't address how to deal with this Driver Current: (None) issue, if indeed it is an issue.

Any suggestions about what I should do now are much appreciated?

Thanks for your patience, David

--- In SDRSharp@yahoogroups.co.uk, <k4gok@> wrote:

From what I read on this forum, a manual install causes all sorts of
problems. It is awful easy to let the batch file do it. That produces
everything you need, all in the proper place for SDR# to run correctly.

You seem to be getting into a number of complicated things I didn't have
to bother with. I can be of no help with those :-(

Zadig must be properly installed, however, before you have any hope of
getting SDR # to run. That process is rather simple, once you can
properly run Zadig as the Administrator.

I do not follow your comments about other devices in Device Manager.
That is not where you select the devices to install. You do that by
running Zadig as Administrator, under Options, Show all Devices.

Marion



On Wed, 10 Jul 2013 13:17:07 -0000 "drmail377" <drmail377@>
writes:

Interim Update...

I uninstalled the Bulk-In, Interface (Interface 0) under Universal Serial
Bus Device in Device Mangager. Unplugged the dongle waited a bit and
plugged it back in.

Now I get two Bulk-In, Interface entries [presumably (Interface 0) and
(Interface 1)] again under Other Devices in Devcie Manager. All three
entries have yellow question marks.

So I think I'm back to where I started from.

I tried running zadig_xp.exe extracted from zadig_xp_v2.0.1.160.7z again.

Again, I cannot select a device. But I do see both bulk-in interfaces
again in Zadig when I select Options > List all Devices.

It seems like some sort of zadig.ini or .cfg file needed by Zadig for
RTL-SDR dongles is missing. This is curious because I manually installed
everything but Zadig exactly like the batch script does by install.bat
extracted from sdr-install.zip. By the way, only the Zadig executable was
changed in my manual installation, and the Zadig.zip file the script
downloads from SDRSharp.com when extracted contains only one file,
zadig.exe, no other .ini or .cfg files.

Maybe the latest _xp version of Zadig is incompatible with some
information files telling Zadig what devices are available?

I think I will try simply running install.bat from the sdr-install.zip
download from SDRSharp.exe and see what happens with the zadig.exe that
install.bat downloads...

--- In SDRSharp@yahoogroups.co.uk, <k4gok@> wrote:

Two questions...
1. Did you run Zadig as Administrator ?? (My Administrator was not set
up correctly. Could not install with Adm privigles)
2. Did you click on the Zadig Options box to see the list of devices ??

Marion


On Tue, 09 Jul 2013 17:07:08 -0000 "drmail377" <drmail377@>
writes:

I've been following the install and config guides from here:

http://rtlsdr.org/softwarewindows

and the .pdf from here:

http://home.4x4wire.com/deddleman/photos/Installing%20SDRSharp%20Software
.pdf

I'm using the WinXP specific (latest) Zadig zadig_xp_v2.0.1.160.7z.
Un-7-zipped and renamed from Zadig_xp.exe to Zadig.exe then put into
the
directory where the SDRSharp.exe resides (nightly-build).

When I plug in the Terratec SDR & DVB-T dongle purchased from NooElec
the
VID and PID match in the Zadig dialog.

However in the Driver box (to the left of the green arrow) it says
(NONE). In Zadig there is no way to select a "Device" or a driver to
map
to WinUSB WinUSB (v6.1.7600.16385).

Now, every time I plug the dongle in, instead of two entries Bulk-In,
Interface (with correct VID, PID, and Instance increment), I only get
one, and the other Bulk-In, Interface (number 0) with proper VID and
PID
ALWAYS appears under Universal Serial Bus Devices > Bulk-In, Interface,
WITH a yellow exclamation point - this is impossible to uninstall.

What a mess...

I guess I should have stayed with install.bat in the sdr-install.zip
archive, even though it is obviously installing an out of date (but
still
XP compatible?) version of Zadig.

So much for keeping it simple...

And, I forgot to create a restore point before I did this nonsense.
Shame
on me.

I am WinXP SP3+ Admin privy with .NET 2.0/3.5+ installed.

Don't know where to go from here. Getting late my time. Maybe sleep on
it
and try tomorrow. In the mean time, comments welcome...

--- In SDRSharp@yahoogroups.co.uk, jdow <jdow@> wrote:

SDRSharp does not, itself, use Zadig. Zadig is used to install WinUSB
in
such a way that your computer loads it during start up for the
devices
you select. Be careful to select a real RTL dongle, not something
else
like
your mouse lest you fall into a world of pain.

These sites give reasonably accurate installation instructions:

http://rtlsdr.org/softwarewindows
http://inst.eecs.berkeley.edu/~ee123/fa12/rtl_sdr.html
http://www.rtl-sdr.com/tag/zadig/

What this means is that Zadig.exe can live anywhere you wish. And it
does not have to be renamed. And there is a good argument for using
WinUSB version 6.1.7600.16385. Something I'm piddling with as an
improvement to the SDRSharp rtlsdr USB module will need the latest
version of winusb.sys, which is the above WinUSB.

"winusb.sys" is used by libusb_1.0.dll. "libusb-1.0.dll" is used by
rtlsdr.dll which in turn is used by SDRSharp.exe.

{^_^}



On 2013/07/09 07:16, Alan wrote:

----- Original Message -----
Subject: [SDRSharp] Re: install.bat Using the Wrong Version of
Zadig?



You said, "SDR# does not use zadig, it is just put there for
convenience."
The dongle uses the driver installed by Zadig. SDR# accesses this
driver, it does not use Zadig.
Any other RTL software (like HDSDR) will then work with that
driver.

If Zadig is not being used, where does the driver for the RTL
device
come from the first time you plug it in?

So I don't have to install and configure Zadig at all? That means
I
don't have to go through the Zadig configuration as directed
on this page:

http://rtlsdr.org/softwarewindows

You said, "Download and use the XP version."
Install the driver with the XP version of Zadig.
This does not need to be in the SDR# folder. The one in there would
only be used once to install the non-XP driver.

Alan



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Re: install.bat Using the Wrong Version of Zadig?

drmail377
 

SDRSharp is working. Now I understand more about what Zadig does. Short answer, just select Driver [(NONE)] in Zadig and proceed to run sdrsharp.exe.

Given a bit of time perhaps I can pay-back by trying to clean up some of what I found to be confusing (dated) install documentation. But that may just confuse things later on. Dunno...

Also, I still contend the Zadig version downloaded by the current install.bat script is quite old. But maybe that's by design.

Thanks for bearing with me through this.... Regards, David

--- In SDRSharp@yahoogroups.co.uk, "drmail377" <drmail377@...> wrote:

Ha! Exactly the answer I was looking for Alberto! Thank you Alberto (if this indeed works)...

I am confused by a combination of (1) outdated zadig.exe that gets installed by SDRSharp.com's install.bat file not agreeing with the online tutorials and the fact that the online tutorials also don't agree, one showing the Driver Current: box containing a description of the dongle, and the other showing Driver Current: as WinUSB (only)!

It is intuitive (for me anyway) that if there is a name box for the USB device in the Zadig dialog "Driver Current:" with other's examples showing something other than (NONE), that accepting (NONE) is likely wrong. In-fact, out of frustration I did select (NONE) before this whole thing started and got unexpected results.

Now I think I understand what Zadig is doing. It is a stand-alone executable that modifies the system to use (point to) a different USB driver depending on the VID, PID, and MI of a particular device plugged into a particular port. I'm understanding this by osmosis, nowhere is there any explanation of what Zadig actually does in any of the install documentation I've seen so far.

That's perhaps my problem, Anal Retentive about stuff getting installed on my machines coupled with dumbed-down and/or incomplete documentation.

I'll give accepting (NONE) a try....

I hope things go easier with the likes of HDSDR (roots with you Albert) - which I plan to try after getting SDRSharp working.

Regards, David

--- In SDRSharp@yahoogroups.co.uk, Alberto I2PHD <i2phd@> wrote:

On 7/10/2013 4:28 PM, drmail377 wrote:

/In Zadig, Driver Current says: (NONE), Driver Target says: WinUSB (v6.1.7600.16385).//
/ /
//There is no way to change Driver Current: (NONE) to point to the RTL-SDR dongle. //
//Not from Zadig's Device drop-down or from Options > List All Devices./
Why do you want to change it ? It is simply telling you that no drivers are currently installed
for that device... it is NOT a field meant to point to the RTL-SDR dongle...

If the VID/PID are correct in that Zadig panel, you are already pointing to the dongle...
Just press Install....

--
/*73 Alberto I2PHD*/


Re: install.bat Using the Wrong Version of Zadig?

Alberto I2PHD
 

This is what I see when starting zadig_xp :

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Re: install.bat Using the Wrong Version of Zadig?

drmail377
 

Ha! Exactly the answer I was looking for Alberto! Thank you Alberto (if this indeed works)...

I am confused by a combination of (1) outdated zadig.exe that gets installed by SDRSharp.com's install.bat file not agreeing with the online tutorials and the fact that the online tutorials also don't agree, one showing the Driver Current: box containing a description of the dongle, and the other showing Driver Current: as WinUSB (only)!

It is intuitive (for me anyway) that if there is a name box for the USB device in the Zadig dialog "Driver Current:" with other's examples showing something other than (NONE), that accepting (NONE) is likely wrong. In-fact, out of frustration I did select (NONE) before this whole thing started and got unexpected results.

Now I think I understand what Zadig is doing. It is a stand-alone executable that modifies the system to use (point to) a different USB driver depending on the VID, PID, and MI of a particular device plugged into a particular port. I'm understanding this by osmosis, nowhere is there any explanation of what Zadig actually does in any of the install documentation I've seen so far.

That's perhaps my problem, Anal Retentive about stuff getting installed on my machines coupled with dumbed-down and/or incomplete documentation.

I'll give accepting (NONE) a try....

I hope things go easier with the likes of HDSDR (roots with you Albert) - which I plan to try after getting SDRSharp working.

Regards, David

--- In SDRSharp@yahoogroups.co.uk, Alberto I2PHD <i2phd@...> wrote:

On 7/10/2013 4:28 PM, drmail377 wrote:

/In Zadig, Driver Current says: (NONE), Driver Target says: WinUSB (v6.1.7600.16385).//
/ /
//There is no way to change Driver Current: (NONE) to point to the RTL-SDR dongle. //
//Not from Zadig's Device drop-down or from Options > List All Devices./
Why do you want to change it ? It is simply telling you that no drivers are currently installed
for that device... it is NOT a field meant to point to the RTL-SDR dongle...

If the VID/PID are correct in that Zadig panel, you are already pointing to the dongle...
Just press Install....

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Re: install.bat Using the Wrong Version of Zadig?

drmail377
 

Once again, yes, I am the "Computer administrator" according to what it says in Control Panel > User Accounts.

In the (Obviously outdated version) of Zadig installed by SDRSharp.com's install.bat (help > about shows: Zadig, Version 1.1.1.139, Copyright 2010-2011 Pete Batard).

In this version of Zadig there is NO green arrow, much less a "nice big pretty button there" as you say that I should press.

In the latest zadig_xp.exe, when run (yes, as Admin) there is (left to right in the same row):

Driver [(NONE)] Green => [WinUSB (v6.1.7600.1635)]

Just below the [WinUSB (v6.1.7600.1635)] box there is just one BIG button that says Install Driver with a drop-down attached to it on the right of the button. The drop-down on the button says "Install Driver (checked by default), Install WinCID Driver, and Extract Files (don't install).

When you say, "Notice the nice big pretty button there? Press teh damn thing"

Are you instructing me to click the big Install Driver button even though the field Driver [(None}] box still says "(None)"? If-so, that is NOT what is shown on the two online tutorials I've seen say.

I did this before (clicking Driver: [(NONE)] as there was no way to change it. And that lead to all these problems in the first place!

--- In SDRSharp@yahoogroups.co.uk, jdow <jdow@...> wrote:

Sigh - no you aren't following their advice - not properly.

If it shows "Driver" as "None" with the WinUSB selection shown to the right
of the green arrow on the same line look just below the list box that says
"WinUSB (v....". Notice the nice big pretty button there? Press teh damn
thing IF and ONLY if you launched Zadig as administrator from an
administrator enabled account.

{^_^}

On 2013/07/10 07:28, drmail377 wrote:
OK, this time I'm just using the install.bat script from SDRSharp.com. But (maybe) there is still a problem with the zadig.exe installed by install.bat...

I am running WinXp SP3+ with Admin privs and .NET 3.5+ installed.

I download sdr-install.zip from SDRSharp.com's Download page and unzip it.

I run install.bat

install.bat downloads all the software and puts it into a director &#92;sdrsharp

Inside &#92;sdrsharp I run zadig.exe

Note, at post time (10 July 2013) clicking Help > About in Zadig reveals:

Zadig, Version 1.1.1.139

In Zadig, I select Options > List All Devices.

Two Bulk-In Interfaces appear:

Bulk-In, Interface (Interface 0), and Bulk-in (Interface 1).

I Select Bulk-In, Interface (Interface 0)

For my dongle (NooElect R820T SDR & DVB-T), Zadig shows VID: 0BDA, PID: 2838, MI: 00. The VID and PID are correct in Zadig. I determined the VID and PID for this dongle in Device Manger previously before running Zadig.

In Zadig, Driver Current says: (NONE), Driver Target says: WinUSB (v6.1.7600.16385).

There is no way to change Driver Current: (NONE) to point to the RTL-SDR dongle. Not from Zadig's Device drop-down or from Options > List All Devices.

I close Zadig without letting it install anything.

Again, I'm following install instructions from:

http://rtlsdr.org/softwarewindows

and,

http://home.4x4wire.com/deddleman/photos/Installing%20SDRSharp%20Software.pdf

Both sets of instructions don't address how to deal with this Driver Current: (None) issue, if indeed it is an issue.

Any suggestions about what I should do now are much appreciated?

Thanks for your patience, David

--- In SDRSharp@yahoogroups.co.uk, <k4gok@> wrote:

From what I read on this forum, a manual install causes all sorts of
problems. It is awful easy to let the batch file do it. That produces
everything you need, all in the proper place for SDR# to run correctly.

You seem to be getting into a number of complicated things I didn't have
to bother with. I can be of no help with those :-(

Zadig must be properly installed, however, before you have any hope of
getting SDR # to run. That process is rather simple, once you can
properly run Zadig as the Administrator.

I do not follow your comments about other devices in Device Manager.
That is not where you select the devices to install. You do that by
running Zadig as Administrator, under Options, Show all Devices.

Marion



On Wed, 10 Jul 2013 13:17:07 -0000 "drmail377" <drmail377@>
writes:

Interim Update...

I uninstalled the Bulk-In, Interface (Interface 0) under Universal Serial
Bus Device in Device Mangager. Unplugged the dongle waited a bit and
plugged it back in.

Now I get two Bulk-In, Interface entries [presumably (Interface 0) and
(Interface 1)] again under Other Devices in Devcie Manager. All three
entries have yellow question marks.

So I think I'm back to where I started from.

I tried running zadig_xp.exe extracted from zadig_xp_v2.0.1.160.7z again.

Again, I cannot select a device. But I do see both bulk-in interfaces
again in Zadig when I select Options > List all Devices.

It seems like some sort of zadig.ini or .cfg file needed by Zadig for
RTL-SDR dongles is missing. This is curious because I manually installed
everything but Zadig exactly like the batch script does by install.bat
extracted from sdr-install.zip. By the way, only the Zadig executable was
changed in my manual installation, and the Zadig.zip file the script
downloads from SDRSharp.com when extracted contains only one file,
zadig.exe, no other .ini or .cfg files.

Maybe the latest _xp version of Zadig is incompatible with some
information files telling Zadig what devices are available?

I think I will try simply running install.bat from the sdr-install.zip
download from SDRSharp.exe and see what happens with the zadig.exe that
install.bat downloads...

--- In SDRSharp@yahoogroups.co.uk, <k4gok@> wrote:

Two questions...
1. Did you run Zadig as Administrator ?? (My Administrator was not set
up correctly. Could not install with Adm privigles)
2. Did you click on the Zadig Options box to see the list of devices ??

Marion


On Tue, 09 Jul 2013 17:07:08 -0000 "drmail377" <drmail377@>
writes:

I've been following the install and config guides from here:

http://rtlsdr.org/softwarewindows

and the .pdf from here:

http://home.4x4wire.com/deddleman/photos/Installing%20SDRSharp%20Software
.pdf

I'm using the WinXP specific (latest) Zadig zadig_xp_v2.0.1.160.7z.
Un-7-zipped and renamed from Zadig_xp.exe to Zadig.exe then put into
the
directory where the SDRSharp.exe resides (nightly-build).

When I plug in the Terratec SDR & DVB-T dongle purchased from NooElec
the
VID and PID match in the Zadig dialog.

However in the Driver box (to the left of the green arrow) it says
(NONE). In Zadig there is no way to select a "Device" or a driver to
map
to WinUSB WinUSB (v6.1.7600.16385).

Now, every time I plug the dongle in, instead of two entries Bulk-In,
Interface (with correct VID, PID, and Instance increment), I only get
one, and the other Bulk-In, Interface (number 0) with proper VID and
PID
ALWAYS appears under Universal Serial Bus Devices > Bulk-In, Interface,
WITH a yellow exclamation point - this is impossible to uninstall.

What a mess...

I guess I should have stayed with install.bat in the sdr-install.zip
archive, even though it is obviously installing an out of date (but
still
XP compatible?) version of Zadig.

So much for keeping it simple...

And, I forgot to create a restore point before I did this nonsense.
Shame
on me.

I am WinXP SP3+ Admin privy with .NET 2.0/3.5+ installed.

Don't know where to go from here. Getting late my time. Maybe sleep on
it
and try tomorrow. In the mean time, comments welcome...

--- In SDRSharp@yahoogroups.co.uk, jdow <jdow@> wrote:

SDRSharp does not, itself, use Zadig. Zadig is used to install WinUSB
in
such a way that your computer loads it during start up for the
devices
you select. Be careful to select a real RTL dongle, not something
else
like
your mouse lest you fall into a world of pain.

These sites give reasonably accurate installation instructions:

http://rtlsdr.org/softwarewindows
http://inst.eecs.berkeley.edu/~ee123/fa12/rtl_sdr.html
http://www.rtl-sdr.com/tag/zadig/

What this means is that Zadig.exe can live anywhere you wish. And it
does not have to be renamed. And there is a good argument for using
WinUSB version 6.1.7600.16385. Something I'm piddling with as an
improvement to the SDRSharp rtlsdr USB module will need the latest
version of winusb.sys, which is the above WinUSB.

"winusb.sys" is used by libusb_1.0.dll. "libusb-1.0.dll" is used by
rtlsdr.dll which in turn is used by SDRSharp.exe.

{^_^}



On 2013/07/09 07:16, Alan wrote:

----- Original Message -----
Subject: [SDRSharp] Re: install.bat Using the Wrong Version of
Zadig?



You said, "SDR# does not use zadig, it is just put there for
convenience."
The dongle uses the driver installed by Zadig. SDR# accesses this
driver, it does not use Zadig.
Any other RTL software (like HDSDR) will then work with that
driver.

If Zadig is not being used, where does the driver for the RTL
device
come from the first time you plug it in?

So I don't have to install and configure Zadig at all? That means
I
don't have to go through the Zadig configuration as directed
on this page:

http://rtlsdr.org/softwarewindows

You said, "Download and use the XP version."
Install the driver with the XP version of Zadig.
This does not need to be in the SDR# folder. The one in there would
only be used once to install the non-XP driver.

Alan



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Re: [SDRSharp] Re: install.bat Using the Wrong Version of Zadig?

jdow <jdow@...>
 

What in perdition is wrong with simply pressing the "Install" button?

{+_+}

On 2013/07/10 09:06, drmail377 wrote:
I just tried a DIFFERNENT WinXP SP3+ machine that has never previously seen any RTL-SDR dongles plugged-in. Yes, I am admin on this different machine.

Same problem. zadig.exe installed by sdr-install.zip's install.bat script says Driver Current: (NONE). But I can see both Bulk-In 0 1n 1 interfaces. But there's no way to change Driver Current: (NONE) to point to the dongle. This is with the previously used brand-new NooElec R820T dongle.

Then I plug a brand-new NooElec Terratec (E4000 tuner) dongle in to the new XP machine, and I get the same Driver Current: (NONE) with no way to change it in Zadig. The VID and PID for the new Terratec dongle look OK in Zadig, they match the VID and PID that I see in Device Manager before ever running Zadig.

I tried the new Terratec dongle on the previous WinXP machine used in this thread. With the never previously plugged-in Terratec dongle, zadig.exe also says Driver Current: (NONE), with no way to change it. The VID and PID in Zadig match what I see in Device Manager before running Zadig for the Terratec dongle.

Again, I'm using the current install.bat extracted from sdr-install.bat from SDRSharp.com site tonight.

This is very frustrating...

These two machines are running GENUINE 32-bit Windows XP SP3+ with all the latest updates. Both are 32-bit Intel x86. The only anti-virus is Microsoft Security Essentials. The USB ports are version 2.0.

What do I do about this prolific and unchangeable Driver Current: (NONE) problem in Zadig?

I've dumbed this down to a common denominator of a new up to date XP machine using SDRSharp.com's install.bat. And the Zadig problem persists.

I get a feeling there's something simple I'm missing here (sound of head banging on the desk)...

--- In SDRSharp@yahoogroups.co.uk, "drmail377" <drmail377@...> wrote:

Hi again Marion,

Yes, I did understand what you said about being Administrator. There is only one account on this machine and in Control Panel > User Accounts, that single account I am using is listed as "Computer administrator".

So are you saying that if in Zadig, when the box Driver Current: says (NONE) I just click the big Install Driver button anyway and all will be OK with the rest of the configuration?

If-so, that's not what's shown on the two online SDRSharp tutorials I'm looking at show. It seems (NONE) should say something other than (NONE).

Best Regards, David


--- In SDRSharp@yahoogroups.co.uk, <k4gok@> wrote:

You said.....
In Zadig, Driver Current says: (NONE), Driver Target says: WinUSB
(v6.1.7600.16385).
At this point select the (0) device and simply install Zadig (You should
have run Zidag as the Administrator). You did understand my comments
about trying to install with Admin Privileges, did you not ??

Marion


On Wed, 10 Jul 2013 14:28:14 -0000 "drmail377" <drmail377@>
writes:

OK, this time I'm just using the install.bat script from SDRSharp.com.
But (maybe) there is still a problem with the zadig.exe installed by
install.bat...

I am running WinXp SP3+ with Admin privs and .NET 3.5+ installed.

I download sdr-install.zip from SDRSharp.com's Download page and unzip
it.

I run install.bat

install.bat downloads all the software and puts it into a director
&#92;sdrsharp

Inside &#92;sdrsharp I run zadig.exe

Note, at post time (10 July 2013) clicking Help > About in Zadig reveals:

Zadig, Version 1.1.1.139

In Zadig, I select Options > List All Devices.

Two Bulk-In Interfaces appear:

Bulk-In, Interface (Interface 0), and Bulk-in (Interface 1).

I Select Bulk-In, Interface (Interface 0)

For my dongle (NooElect R820T SDR & DVB-T), Zadig shows VID: 0BDA, PID:
2838, MI: 00. The VID and PID are correct in Zadig. I determined the VID
and PID for this dongle in Device Manger previously before running Zadig.

In Zadig, Driver Current says: (NONE), Driver Target says: WinUSB
(v6.1.7600.16385).

There is no way to change Driver Current: (NONE) to point to the RTL-SDR
dongle. Not from Zadig's Device drop-down or from Options > List All
Devices.

I close Zadig without letting it install anything.

Again, I'm following install instructions from:

http://rtlsdr.org/softwarewindows

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Re: [SDRSharp] Re: install.bat Using the Wrong Version of Zadig?

Alberto I2PHD
 

On 7/10/2013 6:06 PM, drmail377 wrote:

Then I plug a brand-new NooElec Terratec (E4000 tuner) dongle in to the new XP machine,
and I get the same Driver Current: (NONE) with no way to change it in Zadig.

Have you read my previous message ? WHY do you want to change it ?
It is not a field settable by the user...

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Re: install.bat Using the Wrong Version of Zadig?

drmail377
 

I just tried a DIFFERNENT WinXP SP3+ machine that has never previously seen any RTL-SDR dongles plugged-in. Yes, I am admin on this different machine.

Same problem. zadig.exe installed by sdr-install.zip's install.bat script says Driver Current: (NONE). But I can see both Bulk-In 0 1n 1 interfaces. But there's no way to change Driver Current: (NONE) to point to the dongle. This is with the previously used brand-new NooElec R820T dongle.

Then I plug a brand-new NooElec Terratec (E4000 tuner) dongle in to the new XP machine, and I get the same Driver Current: (NONE) with no way to change it in Zadig. The VID and PID for the new Terratec dongle look OK in Zadig, they match the VID and PID that I see in Device Manager before ever running Zadig.

I tried the new Terratec dongle on the previous WinXP machine used in this thread. With the never previously plugged-in Terratec dongle, zadig.exe also says Driver Current: (NONE), with no way to change it. The VID and PID in Zadig match what I see in Device Manager before running Zadig for the Terratec dongle.

Again, I'm using the current install.bat extracted from sdr-install.bat from SDRSharp.com site tonight.

This is very frustrating...

These two machines are running GENUINE 32-bit Windows XP SP3+ with all the latest updates. Both are 32-bit Intel x86. The only anti-virus is Microsoft Security Essentials. The USB ports are version 2.0.

What do I do about this prolific and unchangeable Driver Current: (NONE) problem in Zadig?

I've dumbed this down to a common denominator of a new up to date XP machine using SDRSharp.com's install.bat. And the Zadig problem persists.

I get a feeling there's something simple I'm missing here (sound of head banging on the desk)...

--- In SDRSharp@yahoogroups.co.uk, "drmail377" <drmail377@...> wrote:

Hi again Marion,

Yes, I did understand what you said about being Administrator. There is only one account on this machine and in Control Panel > User Accounts, that single account I am using is listed as "Computer administrator".

So are you saying that if in Zadig, when the box Driver Current: says (NONE) I just click the big Install Driver button anyway and all will be OK with the rest of the configuration?

If-so, that's not what's shown on the two online SDRSharp tutorials I'm looking at show. It seems (NONE) should say something other than (NONE).

Best Regards, David


--- In SDRSharp@yahoogroups.co.uk, <k4gok@> wrote:

You said.....
In Zadig, Driver Current says: (NONE), Driver Target says: WinUSB
(v6.1.7600.16385).
At this point select the (0) device and simply install Zadig (You should
have run Zidag as the Administrator). You did understand my comments
about trying to install with Admin Privileges, did you not ??

Marion


On Wed, 10 Jul 2013 14:28:14 -0000 "drmail377" <drmail377@>
writes:

OK, this time I'm just using the install.bat script from SDRSharp.com.
But (maybe) there is still a problem with the zadig.exe installed by
install.bat...

I am running WinXp SP3+ with Admin privs and .NET 3.5+ installed.

I download sdr-install.zip from SDRSharp.com's Download page and unzip
it.

I run install.bat

install.bat downloads all the software and puts it into a director
&#92;sdrsharp

Inside &#92;sdrsharp I run zadig.exe

Note, at post time (10 July 2013) clicking Help > About in Zadig reveals:

Zadig, Version 1.1.1.139

In Zadig, I select Options > List All Devices.

Two Bulk-In Interfaces appear:

Bulk-In, Interface (Interface 0), and Bulk-in (Interface 1).

I Select Bulk-In, Interface (Interface 0)

For my dongle (NooElect R820T SDR & DVB-T), Zadig shows VID: 0BDA, PID:
2838, MI: 00. The VID and PID are correct in Zadig. I determined the VID
and PID for this dongle in Device Manger previously before running Zadig.

In Zadig, Driver Current says: (NONE), Driver Target says: WinUSB
(v6.1.7600.16385).

There is no way to change Driver Current: (NONE) to point to the RTL-SDR
dongle. Not from Zadig's Device drop-down or from Options > List All
Devices.

I close Zadig without letting it install anything.

Again, I'm following install instructions from:

http://rtlsdr.org/softwarewindows

and,


Re: [SDRSharp] Re: install.bat Using the Wrong Version of Zadig?

Alberto I2PHD
 

On 7/10/2013 4:28 PM, drmail377 wrote:

In Zadig, Driver Current says: (NONE), Driver Target says: WinUSB (v6.1.7600.16385).

There is no way to change Driver Current: (NONE) to point to the RTL-SDR dongle.
Not from Zadig's Device drop-down or from Options > List All Devices.

Why do you want to change it ? It is simply telling you that no drivers are currently installed
for that device... it is NOT a field meant to point to the RTL-SDR dongle...

If the VID/PID are correct in that Zadig panel, you are already pointing to the dongle...
Just press Install....

--
73 Alberto I2PHD