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Re: SDR# Input lag #sdrsharp #RTL

prog
 

On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 03:35 PM, Stuart Sinderbury wrote:

Thanks again, I changed true to false and gave it a shot, Sadly no difference.

More on the issue: (no front ends running)

1, When expanding and collapsing plugins on the left pane there will be miss clicks. e.g click to collapse nothing happens click again and it collapses but sometimes can take 3 clicks to work and vica versa.

2, Moving the mouse cursor around with SDR# open (no with or without a Front end active) randomly results in a 1 sec mouse freeze then it unfreezes inside SDR# and throughout the whole OS environment like now compiling this reply.

3, Manually changing frequency clicking the numbers will some times keep on changing the frequency until the mouse is moved off the number.

3, Clicking around in the spectrum will have similar effects as trying to expand and collapse plugins, The click will not happen.

 

Only does this with SDR# version 1.5 and above and I've even tried a fresh OS install on a spare SSD to see if my main environment was bugged somehow.

Thanks for helping me.

 

Annunaki/Zenocide from IRC years ago.

Hey! I just thought where you were hiding. I used your IQ file "Annunaki_20140426_120532Z_446031kHz_IQ.wav" for testing the Noise Reduction just yesterday. Glad to see you around.

Try this next: <add key="processPriority" value="32" />

Re: New Noise Reduction Algorithm for SDR#

Mitch
 

I will make an installer of the latest and link you to it for your testing.

On Aug 26, 2019, at 08:55, prog <info@...> wrote:
On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 02:43 PM, Mitch wrote:
A simple installer program could take care of most this automatically.  If wanted, I would be happy to create the script for the dev team with free and open source tools.
That would help a lot. Much appreciated!

Re: SDR# Input lag #sdrsharp #RTL

Annunaki
 

haha no way I remember that day well :) That is really strange this has happened as yesterday I also came back to SDR, Yeah I'm still around but have not been for about 4 years due to some big life events, Did have Airspy but had to sell on due to some life problems but I plan to get another in the near future :) Glad you remember me and also glad to see how far SDR# and Airspy have come! really really cool m8 congratulations I know how hard you have worked for this :) I hope life is treating you well.

 

I've reduced the process priority to 32 (normal) and also combined it with AntiAliasedDisplay False but sadly still having issues and I'm also on 1711 now.

Driving me insane it is but as always appreciate your help :)

Actually I think the Freezing is less to be honest but still not right.

 

Thanks again :)

Re: Installer (was: New Noise Reduction Algorithm for SDR#)

David J Taylor
 

From: Mitch

I will make an installer of the latest and link you to it for your testing.
==========================

I do hope the Zip file remains, as I hate it when an installer does who-knows-what behind your back!

I do provide an installer for some of my own programs, but it's much easier to release a Zip of the items which have changed rather than having to make a fresh "official release" each time.

I recommend the free Inno Setup as the most friendly and best supported installer:

http://www.jrsoftware.org/isinfo.php

Cheers,
David
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Re: New Noise Reduction Algorithm for SDR#

Ian DXer
 

Brief description: 'Boost SNR' fails to function when FFT size slider control in IF Noise Reduction changed

SET UP: Freq 95.1MHz weak signal
SDR# rel 1710
HF+ DP Firmware: R3.0.6-BB
Win 7 64

Open fresh new SDR#1710 program: 
 Open Zoom FFT* menu
Enable IF, Enable MPX, Enable Audio - all ticked

Open IF Noise Reduction* menu.
Profile: Custom
Enabled: tick
Boost SNR: tick . This results in a) improved SNR (intelligibility of speech) & IF display in Zoom FFT shows 40dB FS IF gain lift.

However if I then move the FFT Size slider control in IF Noise Reduction menu the Boost SNR tick remains, but the improved SNR appears to be lost & the IF spectrum gain of 40dB is lost.

First time I've tinkered with the SNR Boost in custom settings. Is the above an expected result?

I have to close program & open again to restore functionality of Boost SNR feature.

Ian





Re: New Noise Reduction Algorithm for SDR#

EB4APL
 

Since different users have different configurations, I would suggest to include a "install.config" file which contains a list of the files that must be kept.  Each user could edit it to suit his/her needs.

Regards,

Ignacio EB4APL



El 26/08/2019 a las 15:14, kb3cs escribió:
if you do, please be sure to preserve BandPlan.xml ..
i submitted changes and updates to the author (Henry Forte) which do not yet seem to have been implemented.

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Re: Installer

Mitch
 

Inno is what I use and it does create an application specific tracking GUID for the program to make updates more simple and reliable and which enters it into the Windows "Apps and Features" so it can be tastefully managed by the OS.  Otherwise, it's simply un-compresses itself into the installation folder.  It's very convenient for users to have a 5 click solution to a new version with no jacking up of their configuration files.

Creating an updated installer is opening the script, setting a date or version, and clicking one button, so hardly a chore.

On 8/26/19 10:07 AM, David J Taylor via Groups.Io wrote:
From: Mitch

I will make an installer of the latest and link you to it for your testing.
==========================

I do hope the Zip file remains, as I hate it when an installer does who-knows-what behind your back!

I do provide an installer for some of my own programs, but it's much easier to release a Zip of the items which have changed rather than having to make a fresh "official release" each time.

I recommend the free Inno Setup as the most friendly and best supported installer:

 http://www.jrsoftware.org/isinfo.php

Cheers,
David

Re: New Noise Reduction Algorithm for SDR#

BryonB
 

I have an Inno Setup script that I've used. It's a fine open-source installation package tool.

I stopped updating and using it though. 

It was difficult to setup "standard" locations of folders per Windows guidelines, with executables under "program files" and config files under "AppData," since SDR# and the other utilities expect the configuration files in the same location as executables. 

For the programs to be able to update their config files under "program files," they would need to run elevated as Admin. That isn't good security practice, and it generates UAC prompts for most users at launch.

It would help if there was a way to tell SDR# to get it's config from an alternate location - or if it had a second "standard" AppData folder location that it would look for them in as well. An installer could let users choose certain options/locations and keep track of them in the Windows registry also.

Using an installer would make running multiple parallel installations trickier. It would be a nice option for those 
who just want to download and install one copy with fewer hassles though.

I now use a Ruby script that checks the website for a newer version and downloads it and expands the .zip for me, if needed. It fires up the WinMerge tool afterward, so I can see what changed, and merge across plugins and config file changes to the new folder.

On Mon, 26 Aug 2019 6:53 am Mitch, <ab4mw@...> wrote:
I will make an installer of the latest and link you to it for your testing.

On Aug 26, 2019, at 08:55, prog <info@...> wrote:
On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 02:43 PM, Mitch wrote:
A simple installer program could take care of most this automatically.  If wanted, I would be happy to create the script for the dev team with free and open source tools.
That would help a lot. Much appreciated!

Re: SDR# Input lag #sdrsharp #RTL

Annunaki
 

Ok so accidentally I seem to have found the issue.

It seems to be with the standard RTL-SDR .dll that comes from the included install.bat, When its selected in the source selection section of SDR# the problems occur.

 

However when selecting the RTL-SDR .dll which produces the below config UI all the mentioned problems go away.

 

Re: New Noise Reduction Algorithm for SDR#

Simon Brown
 

Two options:

 

  1. Artificial intelligence,
  2. Natural stupidity.

 

Simon Brown, G4ELI

https://www.sdr-radio.com

 

From: airspy@groups.io <airspy@groups.io> On Behalf Of DXer
Sent: 26 August 2019 15:49
To: airspy@groups.io
Subject: Re: [airspy] New Noise Reduction Algorithm for SDR#

 

On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 01:24 AM, prog wrote:

This one harvests some of the natural intelligence of the operator to work.

Risk is part of life, but relying on operator's "natural intelligence" is suicidal. ROTFLM

Vince
Ottawa, ON

Re: Installer

Simon Brown
 

FWIW I use NSIS.

Simon Brown, G4ELI
https://www.sdr-radio.com

-----Original Message-----
From: airspy@groups.io <airspy@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mitch
Sent: 26 August 2019 15:58
To: airspy@groups.io
Subject: Re: [airspy] Installer

Inno is what I use and it does create an application specific tracking GUID for the program to make updates more simple and reliable and which enters it into the Windows "Apps and Features" so it can be tastefully managed by the OS. Otherwise, it's simply un-compresses itself into the installation folder. It's very convenient for users to have a 5 click solution to a new version with no jacking up of their configuration files.

Creating an updated installer is opening the script, setting a date or version, and clicking one button, so hardly a chore.

Re: New Noise Reduction Algorithm for SDR#

David J Taylor
 

From: Bryon NF6M

I have an Inno Setup script that I've used. It's a fine open-source installation package tool.

I stopped updating and using it though.

It was difficult to setup "standard" locations of folders per Windows guidelines, with executables under "program files" and config files under "AppData," since SDR# and the other utilities expect the configuration files in the same location as executables.

For the programs to be able to update their config files under "program files," they would need to run elevated as Admin. That isn't good security practice, and it generates UAC prompts for most users at launch.
=================================

Yes, all the documentation and user's expectations in now that you can edit the .XML configuration files in the same directory as the program's .EXE file. I find it makes for unnecessary complications (and can increase support effort) when files are scattered all over the place (e.g. in the \users\name\..\..\..\ tree).

The installer can become a simple .ZIP extractor, and a waste of time and effort, although some users will appreciate double clicking on a Setup.exe.

73,
David GM8ARV
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#raspberrypi #raspberrypi

Mark Venables
 

Evening everyone,

I've finally managed to solve my airspy_rx / rx_tools conundrum.

After a couple of days of getting nowhere, decided to go back to airspy_rx and use csdr functions on the command line and twiddled about until I got a good terrestrial FM signal (yes I removed the bandpass filter first..)
Changed the frequency back to NOAA 15/18/19 and there was the familiar old 2.4 kHz carrier wave loud and clear. Got some good images too. Now just playing around with different decimations/filters and such like to tweak it. Possible stop using the -g switch and start tinkering with the three individual gains if someone has any tips I'd appreciate it...

Anyway, to clear, everything is now done on the raspberry pi 4. Not using spyserver at all so the main PC is free for rest of the family.

Here's my best pic to date:

Re: New Noise Reduction Algorithm for SDR#

Alberto I2PHD
 

On 2019-08-26 20:18, Bryon NF6M via Groups.Io wrote:

For the programs to be able to update their config files under "program 
files," they would need to run elevated as Admin. That isn't good security 
practice, and it generates UAC prompts for most users at launch.

Do as I do... my Windows user runs as administrator, with the UAC completely disabled.
And under Linux I log on as root.
Never caught a virus since the mid of the 'eighties...
 
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Re: New Noise Reduction Algorithm for SDR#

kb3cs
 

if the installation is put in C:\Users\<username>\airspy then no UAC is needed.

my update procedure:
1.  move airspy airspy-<releasenumber>
2.  mkdir airspy
3.  extract zip contents into airspy
4.  xcopy airspy-<releasenumber>\BandPlan.xml airspy
5.  xcopy airspy-<releasenumber>\SDRSharp.exe.Config airspy
6.  ???
7.  profit!!   (-:

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Re: Installer (was: New Noise Reduction Algorithm for SDR#)

Nigel
 

Do we really need an installer?

Just unzipping the files has always worked fine here.

A need to retain settings is easily achieved by either copying across the old config file or updating the new one.

Something about if it ain't broke don't fix it comes to mind:-)

Nigel, GM8PZR



-----Original Message-----
From: David J Taylor via Groups.Io <gm8arv@...>
To: airspy <airspy@groups.io>
Sent: Mon, 26 Aug 2019 15:07
Subject: Re: [airspy] Installer (was: New Noise Reduction Algorithm for SDR#)

From: Mitch

I will make an installer of the latest and link you to it for your testing.
==========================

I do hope the Zip file remains, as I hate it when an installer does
who-knows-what behind your back!

I do provide an installer for some of my own programs, but it's much easier
to release a Zip of the items which have changed rather than having to make
a fresh "official release" each time.

I recommend the free Inno Setup as the most friendly and best supported
installer:

  http://www.jrsoftware.org/isinfo.php

Cheers,
David
--
SatSignal Software - Quality software for you
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@...
Twitter: @gm8arv




Re: New Noise Reduction Algorithm for SDR#

Duke McKay
 

Could you not just unzip/extract the new SDR# vers into the original directory?
That's what I did thus it kept all my saves and settings but am up to the latest vers.


On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 4:11 PM kb3cs <kb3cs@...> wrote:
if the installation is put in C:\Users\<username>\airspy then no UAC is needed.

my update procedure:
1.  move airspy airspy-<releasenumber>
2.  mkdir airspy
3.  extract zip contents into airspy
4.  xcopy airspy-<releasenumber>\BandPlan.xml airspy
5.  xcopy airspy-<releasenumber>\SDRSharp.exe.Config airspy
6.  ???
7.  profit!!   (-:

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Re: New Noise Reduction Algorithm for SDR#

kb3cs
 

40m band in a quiet rural location: IF Noise Reduction more effective than Audio Noise Reduction

settings: Custom Profile. -36 dB threshold, no Boost SNR, 30 dB Depth, 3 dB Slope (more slope lets more QRN through), 20 ms Attack, 30 ms Decay, 1024 FFT.

n.b. at times, Narrow Band Profile in IF NR is more effective than Speech Profile for SSB transmissions. strange, but true.

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Re: New Noise Reduction Algorithm for SDR#

Joe M.
 

I use this procedure:

1. Make a COPY of my current SDR# folder then rename it SDRsharp-xxxx.
2. Extract the new files into a folder of their own.
3. Copy the new files to the folder made in step 1 (except config etc).

Done.

This way I have the old version and the new.

Now if this could be automated, all the better.

Joe M.

On 8/26/2019 6:30 PM, Duke McKay wrote:
Could you not just unzip/extract the new SDR# vers into the original
directory?
That's what I did thus it kept all my saves and settings but am up to
the latest vers.


On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 4:11 PM kb3cs <kb3cs@...
<mailto:kb3cs@...>> wrote:

if the installation is put in C:\Users\<username>\airspy then no UAC
is needed.

my update procedure:
1. move airspy airspy-<releasenumber>
2. mkdir airspy
3. extract zip contents into airspy
4. xcopy airspy-<releasenumber>\BandPlan.xml airspy
5. xcopy airspy-<releasenumber>\SDRSharp.exe.Config airspy
6. ???
7. profit!! (-:

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Re: New Noise Reduction Algorithm for SDR#

jdow
 

Build a simple batch file.
{o.o}

On 20190826 17:22:44, Joe M. wrote:
I use this procedure:
1. Make a COPY of my current SDR# folder then rename it SDRsharp-xxxx.
2. Extract the new files into a folder of their own.
3. Copy the new files to the folder made in step 1 (except config etc).
Done.
This way I have the old version and the new.
Now if this could be automated, all the better.
Joe M.
On 8/26/2019 6:30 PM, Duke McKay wrote:
Could you not just unzip/extract the new SDR# vers into the original
directory?
That's what I did thus it kept all my saves and settings but am up to
the latest vers.


On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 4:11 PM kb3cs <kb3cs@...
<mailto:kb3cs@...>> wrote:

    if the installation is put in C:\Users\<username>\airspy then no UAC
    is needed.

    my update procedure:
    1.  move airspy airspy-<releasenumber>
    2.  mkdir airspy
    3.  extract zip contents into airspy
    4.  xcopy airspy-<releasenumber>\BandPlan.xml airspy
    5.  xcopy airspy-<releasenumber>\SDRSharp.exe.Config airspy
    6.  ???
    7.  profit!!   (-:

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